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Pompeo accuses migrant caravan in Mexico of inciting violence for political purposes

  

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Via:  perrie-halpern  •  8 years ago  •  125 comments

 Pompeo accuses migrant caravan in Mexico of inciting violence for political purposes
About 7,000 people have set out for Tapachula in the state of Chiapas, Mexican authorities said.

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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo raised the stakes Sunday night as thousands of Central American migrants headed for the United States marched into Mexico, claiming they were inciting violence under the influence of politically motivated leaders.

There's no precise calculation of how many migrants make up the caravan, but Mexican civil protection authorities said Sunday that about 7,000 people, most of them from Honduras, had set out from an area near the Mexican-Guatemalan border for Tapachula in the Mexican state of Chiapas.

About 2,000 others have been intercepted and returned to Honduras, Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales said.

The United States has put pressure on Mexico and Honduras to stop the procession, warning over the last week that the travelers were vulnerable to human smuggling rings and other criminal organizations.

On Sunday night, Pompeo — who met with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Videgaray Caso — went on the offensive, alleging in a statement that many of the migrants were criminals themselves.

"We also are deeply concerned by the violence provoked by some members of the group, as well as the apparent political motivation of some organizers of the caravan," Pompeo said.

"As President Trump has stated, consistent with U.S. law, the United States will not allow illegal immigrants to enter or remain in the United States," said Pompeo, who offered no examples of violence instigated by the migrants.

The travelers have said they are fleeing unemployment and violence in Honduras.

"We've already seen that the Mexican government has bent under the pressure of the U.S. government and that it has become an accomplice to the illegitimate, repressive government of Juan Orlando Hernández," the president of Honduras, Pueblo Sin Fronteras said.

On Friday, six Mexican federal police officers were   injured in an altercation with migrants   along the border, Mexican authorities said. The country's National Migration Institute on Sunday urged the travelers to head to shelters and to apply to stay in Mexico legally, but many have said they plan to continue marching north toward the United States on Monday.

Trump, who has previously threatened to cut off all aid to Honduras if the caravan isn't stopped, said Sunday on Twitter that the procession was " a disgrace to the Democrat Party ," without offering evidence of Democratic involvement.

"People have to apply for asylum in Mexico first, and if they fail to do that, the U.S. will turn them away,"   the president tweeted .


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Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.    8 years ago

How should this situation be best handled?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.1  arkpdx  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1    8 years ago

Close the border and let them be Mexico's problem. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1    8 years ago

Without any legislation from Congress there are no good ways. I think the President is using the only option he has - close the border and stop giving aid to countries that allow it. Obviously whoever is behind this wants to see the President handle it in the worst way possible, when they arrive at the US border, as orchestrated just before the US election.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1    8 years ago

George Soros is getting his way. Borders don't mean anything any more - look at the migrant flow into Europe, and Hamas breaking through the Gaza border fence and digging tunnels. Now it's happening in the Americas.

 
 
 
PJ
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1.3.1  PJ  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3    8 years ago

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Sparty On
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1.4  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1    8 years ago

We can't be everything, to everyone and this march, which has clearly been orchestrated with some nefarious intent, can not be let into this country without heavy scrutiny.

I've said it before and i'lll say it again.   Lets take care of our own first before we accept others that need to be taken care of.   Not unsympathetic to their cause but we can't even take care of our own citizens and now we want more?   Some of which with very questionable intent?

Nah, i don't think so.   If they make it that far, heavily vet these people at our border and only let in the most useful and clearly sincere of the bunch.   That means no military aged males without proven trades or college trained experience.    And chopping off heads of none believers does not count.  

Otherwise turn them away.  

This situation just solidifies the justification for more secure borders as its doubtful this is the last we will see of this sort of thing.   Especially if this current group gets let into the USA.   They might be playing right into Trumps hands with this stunt.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2  Buzz of the Orient    8 years ago

I read somewhere that among those refugees 100 ISIS jihadis have been arrested. If those refugees are peppered with ISIS jihadis, then Islamist wannabe Justin Trudeau should invite them all to Canada.  After all, it's been reported that he's inviting ISIS fighters to Canada, and hey, 7000 new citizens are bound to vote for him in next year's federal election, where he is going to face a challenge.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    8 years ago

Sources:

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1    8 years ago
Sources:

Have you seen this in any reliable news source?  I have not been able to.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.1    8 years ago

Judicial Watch is a reliable source. For what reasons do you think it isn't?

These types of stories are not well covered by the lame stream media, because it goes against the agenda.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.2    8 years ago
Judicial Watch is a reliable source. For what reasons do you think it isn't? These types of stories are not well covered by the lame stream media, because it goes against the agenda.

Judicial Watch is barred from being used as a source on Newstalkers. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.1.4  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    8 years ago

BBBBBBRRRRRUUUUUHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHAAAAAA - like you really have that authority John.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.5  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.2    8 years ago
These types of stories are not well covered by the lame stream media, because it goes against the agenda.

The agenda of mostly accurate news reporting???

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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3  The Magic 8 Ball    8 years ago

send the military and close the border

 since mexico let them into their country?

demand mexico take care of them.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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3.1  Spikegary  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @3    8 years ago

I think Mexico has been trying to stop them, but there's only a certain level of enforcement you can use.  Start shooting people and it will become a much worse crisis.  I believe that they will need to close the border.  At what point do people understand that they have no right to go across another country's borders?  Obviously, we haven't reached that point yet.

Does seem like quite the publicity stunt....one has to wonder where the money is coming from to feed all these folks walking, what $1500 miles?  Plus, there seems to be lots of cameramen there to document........

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Spikegary @3.1    8 years ago
"At what point do people understand that they have no right to go across another country's borders?"

The European Union sees no problem with it, and Hamas feels it's their right and the liberal media agrees with them, so why shouldn't people all over the world think it isn't a problem.

 
 
 
PJ
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3.1.2  PJ  replied to  Spikegary @3.1    8 years ago

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zuksam
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3.1.3  zuksam  replied to  Spikegary @3.1    8 years ago
Start shooting people and it will become a much worse crisis. 

That's a big part of the Problem, they know we won't shoot them. What a Fucked up Country we live in where the Cops will shoot a Citizen for not following orders but the Border Patrol can't shoot Invading Hoards. Since Mexico let them in their country they should be held responsible if this Hoard reaches the US Border. I don't Know if Soros or anyone else is prompting this Invasion but it should be investigated and if true it should be deemed a Terrorist Act and we should have Seal Team Six take them out.

 
 
 
PJ
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3.1.4  PJ  replied to  zuksam @3.1.3    8 years ago
I don't Know if Soros or anyone else is prompting this Invasion but it should be investigated and if true it should be deemed a Terrorist Act and we should have Seal Team Six take them out.

I just thought this deserved to be highlighted.   jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.6  Ozzwald  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.5    8 years ago
It could prove useful for live fire training for new trainees. 

So you are promoting an act of war with Mexico?  US troops murdering women and children?

 
 
 
zuksam
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3.1.8  zuksam  replied to  PJ @3.1.4    8 years ago
I just thought this deserved to be highlighted.

Good!  Remember Obama approved Drone attacks that killed hundreds of People who never did anything as bad as planning and promoting a Mass Invasion of the US Boarder by 5000+ people. If it is found that this was indeed an Orchestrated Event it is definitely a Terrorist Act and the Guilty Parties should be treated the same way we treat all foreign Terrorists.

 
 
 
zuksam
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3.1.9  zuksam  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.5    8 years ago
We don't need to waste the talents of Seal Team Six on an invading hoard of illegals.

I don't want Seal Team Six to shoot the Illegals I want them to go after whomever is Promoting this Invasion.

 
 
 
PJ
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3.1.10  PJ  replied to  zuksam @3.1.8    8 years ago

Hahahahahahaha - You crack me up, in a good way.  

I agree, Obama killed innocent people with drone attacks.  I'm not sure what that has to do with this topic.  They are two separate issues, imo.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.12  Ozzwald  replied to  zuksam @3.1.8    8 years ago
Remember Obama approved Drone attacks that killed hundreds of People

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Ozzwald
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3.1.13  Ozzwald  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.11    8 years ago
Mexico is also trying to stop the invading forces, but has been ineffective doing so.

Invading forces???   jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Mexico is permitting an invasion force to maneuver through their country. 

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However, if individual Mexican individuals join that invasion force, then they are acting in contravention to agreements between Mexico and the United States and then become invasion belligerents themselves. 

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Only in Trump's 'murika are asylum seekers considered an "invading force".

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1.14  1stwarrior  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.6    8 years ago

Nope - not with Mexico - but with the hordes/illegal migrants.  It's interesting that Mexico's immigration laws totally prevent what is occurring - but - guess what - nobody is up to enforcing the Mexican laws either.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1.15  1stwarrior  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.13    8 years ago

Actually Ozzy, U. S. Federal law considers what these idiots are doing "invading" our borders.

Try reading the immigration laws Ozzy - you really might learn something that you can talk about.

 
 
 
PJ
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4  PJ    8 years ago

Since these countries are incapable of taking care of their own citizens and improving their country maybe the US should invade Mexico and Guatemala and increase our territory.  

The other alternative given by other members here would lead to a blood bath which damages the US around the world and further unites other countries against America.  

The dilemma is that these people are brown and we already know that a certain faction of Americans are racists and will probably go for the blood bath since they're in power right now.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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4.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  PJ @4    8 years ago

No bloodbath needed just tell them no soup for you. The key is not to let their problem become our problem. Trump is doing a good job of keeping them out and out of our pockets and the welfare they are coming for. 

 
 
 
PJ
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4.1.1  PJ  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.1    8 years ago

Yes, we should give the money to the top 1%.  jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

Dean - if we really truly want to stop people from trying to improve their lot in life we will have to find a way to take away all hope from them.  [ Removed ]

My vote is on the blood bath.  Ripping children from their mothers didn't quite have the rallying affect that Trump wanted so murdering them should push the Republican's over the finish line with their base and hand them another win.  

 
 
 
PJ
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4.1.3  PJ  replied to    8 years ago

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PJ
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4.1.5  PJ  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.1    8 years ago

 
 
 
PJ
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4.1.6  PJ  replied to    8 years ago

Thank you for your concern.  I'm not going to respond to your personal attacks.   

What do you think about the article?  Any thoughts on a solution?

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.7  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.1    8 years ago
No bloodbath needed just tell them no soup for you.

Once again its a matter of enforcing or not enforcing the laws.

the welfare they are coming for. 

Dean, Most of these people are probably just like most Americans they would rather earn a good income that live a poverty style shit life of welfare.. evidently either is still better than where they walked 1500 miles to get away from.

I won't even walk down the street for a beer these days. LOL

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.1.8  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1.7    8 years ago
either is still better than where they walked 1500 miles to get away from.

it is not our job to take in every person out there that wants to make a better living.

but if you are worried about their finances, they have video of these people getting paid along the way...

so, they already have a job.

it should be fun to watch the left try to defend these fuks.

that red tsunami will be growing even bigger each passing day

midterms will be epic :)

 

 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.3  Ronin2  replied to  PJ @4    8 years ago
Since these countries are incapable of taking care of their own citizens and improving their country maybe the US should invade Mexico and Guatemala and increase our territory.  

Because the US has done such a great job of nation building in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, and every other third world country we have dropped out military into.

The other alternative given by other members here would lead to a blood bath which damages the US around the world and further unites other countries against America. 

And invading them won't be a blood bath? You are talking about war and full outright occupation of two countries. We aren't supposed to be Russia or China. Besides the massive amount of loss of life and the danger of occupation to US forces; we would have all of South America- and our allies turning against us. It would go over great in the UN Security Council- Russia and China would love it.  Also, where the hell are you going to get all of the money to rebuild these countries? We already have financial sinkholes in Afghanistan and Iraq- with the potential of Syria to follow. 

The dilemma is that these people arebrownand we already know that a certain faction of Americans are racists and will probably go for the blood bath since they're in power right now.

No, the only dilemma is how anyone can think that taking everyone that decides to march across the border into our country will ever work. Color has nothing to do with it. We should be forcing these people to better their own countries. Coming to the US and entering the country illegally is not the answer to any of their problems.  If you let these in millions more will follow from all over the world. Why work to better where you live when you can go to the US and drain their resources instead.  Shutting down the border and turning them back is the only solution.

 
 
 
PJ
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4.3.1  PJ  replied to  Ronin2 @4.3    8 years ago
Because the US has done such a great job of nation building in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, and every other third world country we have dropped out military into.

But we have Trump now.  

And invading them won't be a blood bath? You are talking about war and full outright occupation of two countries. We aren't supposed to be Russia or China. Besides the massive amount of loss of life and the danger of occupation to US forces; we would have all of South America- and our allies turning against us. It would go over great in the UN Security Council- Russia and China would love it.  Also, where the hell are you going to get all of the money to rebuild these countries? We already have financial sinkholes in Afghanistan and Iraq- with the potential of Syria to follow. 

We already have our "allies" turning against us.  

No, the only dilemma is how anyone can think that taking everyone that decides to march across the border into our country will ever work. Color has nothing to do with it. We should be forcing these people to better their own countries. Coming to the US and entering the country illegally is not the answer to any of their problems.  If you let these in millions more will follow from all over the world. Why work to better where you live when you can go to the US and drain their resources instead.  Shutting down the border and turning them back is the only solution.

Please stop pretending that race is not a factor.  It was a primary reason Trump was elected. 

How do we force these people to better their own country?   

You are foolish if you think this is going to stop people from trying to come to America because you clearly don't know what America stands for to those who desire to become American.  You've taken for granted what it means to be American.  

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Silent
4.3.4  PJ  replied to  XDm9mm @4.3.2    8 years ago

Just keep watching FOX.  It's your safe space.

 
 
 
PJ
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4.3.7  PJ  replied to  XDm9mm @4.3.6    8 years ago

No

 
 
 
PJ
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4.3.10  PJ  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.3    8 years ago

Are you kidding me?  I took you for a lot of things but this BS about me wanting open borders....seriously.  jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.3.11  Greg Jones  replied to  PJ @4.3.10    8 years ago

So what you want is ~7000 more illegals? Don't we have enough already?

 
 
 
PJ
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4.3.12  PJ  replied to  Greg Jones @4.3.11    8 years ago

Of course not.  I'm not for rewarding bad behavior.  The truth of the matter is that I don't know what the answer is BUT I do know that creating division within our country by Mr. Trump and his supporters is not going to make our borders safe.  By inserting lies and falsely accusing other citizens of working against our country is dangerous unless there is an objective to create discourse among it's citizens.  Divide and conquer.  That's what Mr. Trump and his supporters are advocating for.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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4.3.13  1stwarrior  replied to  PJ @4.3.12    8 years ago

No PJ - Trump and HIS administration are advocating for Obeying/following of existing Federal Immigration Law, something the Democrats have not done for the past 40 years.  That is where the division within our country is coming from - the law-breakers of the Democratic party - not all of the Dems, just the law-breakers.

 
 
 
charger 383
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5  charger 383    8 years ago

End all immigration for at lest 10 years, we have enough problems already

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Silent
5.1  PJ  replied to  charger 383 @5    8 years ago

A moratorium on immigration is one possibility but it needs to be equally applied.  I've also been a huge advocate for reviewing the current Visa programs.  In addition, I think we should not honor citizenship to those who travel here to give birth.

 
 
 
luther28
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7  luther28    8 years ago

Trump, who has previously threatened to cut off all aid to Honduras if the caravan isn't stopped, said Sunday on Twitter that the procession was " a disgrace to the Democrat Party ," without offering evidence of Democratic involvement.

Well we all knew where the blame would be laid.

As sad as it may be, shut down the border. Regardless of their circumstances we cannot allow folks into the Country willy nilly.

Until Congress gets off their collective dead arses and effectively and intelligently (there's a tall order) address overall immigration policy this will continue to go on.

As an aside, we have two borders both should be addressed equitably.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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7.3  Greg Jones  replied to  luther28 @7    8 years ago

It's a well know fact of who is supporting this invasion, and probably financing a large share of it.

 
 
 
luther28
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7.3.1  luther28  replied to  Greg Jones @7.3    8 years ago

Oh pshaw!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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9  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.    8 years ago

I am closing the morning article due to the tone it has taken. I post these for interesting discussion and this one has gone astray from that intention. 

 
 

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