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There is No “Christian Left”

  

Category:  Religion & Ethics

Via:  donald-j-trump-fan-1  •  6 years ago  •  155 comments

By:   Christine L. Smith

There is No “Christian Left”
Jesus never taught to steal from those who work to give to the poor. He taught that charity is a private matter which individuals do – not the government. He never said that the poor have a right to use a middleman to steal from those who work. He taught in words and by example that Christian love is evinced by voluntary compassionate acts – not coercive stealing from some to give to others.

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There is No “Christian Left”


Despite liberals frequently referencing God, the Bible, and Jesus, there is no “Christian left.” It is an oxymoron because the two sets of belief systems are mutually exclusive.

The Bible speaks of such people, Paul wrote, “They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” (Titus 1:16 King James Version).

Christian conservatives must not be confused merely by a person’s quoting of Scripture, remember Satan himself quoted Scripture to Jesus during the temptation and frequently twists it in today’s society to deceive Christians who do not have a firm foundation in God’s word.

Today’s leftists stand for the opposite of what the Bible teaches on major issues:



1. Wealth redistribution  – Throughout the  Bible theft and stealing are sins that are prohibited. Yet the left’s position today is for exorbitant taxation and for unconstitutional purposes, which is legalized theft.  The left’s focus on raising taxes to fund all manner of illegitimate programs is wrong any way you measure it.  Jesus never taught to steal from those who work to give to the poor. He taught that charity is a private matter which individuals do – not the government. He never said that the poor have a right to use a middleman to steal from those who work. He taught in words and by example that Christian love is evinced by voluntary compassionate acts – not coercive stealing from some to give to others. Biblically speaking, all provisions a person requires should be worked for or received from those who choose to give to them willingly. Jesus taught us to help those in need; his teachings were instructions to individuals.  Those in need were not to be politically exploited but voluntarily helped by Christians not government.

In Ephesians 4:28, KJV, we are told, “Anyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share with those in need.”

2. Humanism – For the liberal of today, man is the measure on all matters – not God. Jesus said, “Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” (Matthew 15:7-9, KJV).



Leftists’ positions on abortion, self-defense/firearms, immigration, the pursuit of anti-family and anti-religious policies, and support of special rights for those engaging in sin are all examples of putting the mind of man above the word of God. The Bible does not teach situational ethics (where people try to figure out what is right without God), it teaches God’s ethics.

An authentic Christian evinces the values taught in the Bible in all areas of life – including politics.

Sadly, many churches have insidiously been infiltrated by Marxist ideology, craftily taking parts of the Bible they like to buttress a radical agenda while ignoring the bulk of Scripture and spirit of God’s law. They’ve intertwined secularism into their supposed Christian belief distorting it into an abominable evil.

The political left is far away from the teachings of Christianity; their reference to religious faith is as empty as their sorry destructive political policies.

To those who consider themselves members of the “Christian left,” I leave you with a question posed by Jesus Christ, “And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46, KJV).


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Raven Wing
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2  Raven Wing     6 years ago

There is No “Christian Left”

That is a lie. There are lots of Christians on both sides. And there are lots of mere CINO of both sides. 

Only God knows how many Christians there are and how they vote, not you.

 
 
 
Steve Ott
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2.2  Steve Ott  replied to  Raven Wing @2    6 years ago
Only God knows how many Christians there are and how they vote, not you.

Much agreed.

 
 
 
lady in black
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3  lady in black    6 years ago

This whole seed is baloney...I know plenty of christians that are democrats including myself....just more of the same of faux christian persecution and trying to corner the market on christianity and claiming they are the only true christians and their brand of religion is the only true religion, along with the fact that they would love the US to become theocracy.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1  Gordy327  replied to  lady in black @3    6 years ago

Your opening sentence says it all. Not to mention the whole thing also seems to be a No True Scotsman fallacy.

 
 
 
katrix
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3.2  katrix  replied to  lady in black @3    6 years ago

The author's issue is that the liberal democrats aren't generally assholes who try to force their religion into our laws, government and schools. And they're generally not false prophets as nutjobs like this author are.

Apparently the author thinks that if you actually have ethics and morals, and try to follow Jesus' example, you don't qualify as a Christian. Boy, won't he and his ilk be surprised when Jesus doesn't know them, as the bible makes it clear he will not.

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46, KJV).

This is so freaking ironic. People who preach hatred and discrimination, pretending it's other people who are not following their god.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.2.2  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.1    6 years ago

This isn't 2000 years ago. Society has grown and evolved overy the centuries. Such a theistic mindset has no place in modern society and belongs in the past. Some people have simply outgrown such quaint ways of thinking. It's a shame not everyone can keep up or change with the times.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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4  igknorantzrulz    6 years ago

There is No Christian Left ?

What happened to them ?

Did G-O-D swoop down and snatch them, like Trumpp, by their crotches ?

Was there a max exodus to Judaism ? 

Did Muhammad pull an Alah Ali on them ?

 

 
 
 
Freefaller
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5  Freefaller    6 years ago

There is No “Christian Left”

Oh good, then maybe these false persecution and religion inspired hate seeds will finally stop

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6  JohnRussell    6 years ago

The seeder has lately gone from posting non-sensical and laughable seeds, to truly evil articles like this one.

Out of curiosity I looked up the Bible passage at the top of this article

Despite liberals frequently referencing God, the Bible, and Jesus, there is no “Christian left.” It is an oxymoron because the two sets of belief systems are mutually exclusive. The Bible speaks of such people, Paul wrote, “ They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” (Titus 1:16 King James Version).

It has nothing to do with what the writer of this garbage infers it does. Titus 1 appears to be a criticism of Jews who the author of Titus thought were subverting the teachings of Jesus at the time. 

12  One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, the Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.

13  This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

14   Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

15  Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

16  They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @6    6 years ago

Titus Chapter 1 explained - bible-studys.org

Books/Titus/Titus Chapter 1.html
Titus went to Jerusalem with Paul, and the Jewish Christians there wanted to circumcise Titus . Paul would not allow them to do this, because it would cause all the Gentile Christians to be of less importance to God. When there was trouble with a church and Paul could not go himself, he would send Titus .

What does this have to do with today's "leftist Christians" ? 

Nothing , of course. 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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7  Larry Hampton    6 years ago

Of course whenever a group believes that that they alone are the arbiters of "true" Christianity, they have forfeited God's own judgement on the matter. And prove themselves false in the process. 

 
 
 
katrix
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7.1  katrix  replied to  Larry Hampton @7    6 years ago

Jesus warned us about people like this. It appears he was correct.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.1    6 years ago
Despite liberals frequently referencing God, the Bible, and Jesus, there is no “Christian left.”

Are you aware that there are Christians who are on the left right here on NewsTalkers?    Who are you to declare that these individuals are not Christians??

 
 
 
katrix
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7.1.3  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.1    6 years ago
remember Satan himself quoted Scripture

Hahahahaha!

You probably don't even get the irony of your comment.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  katrix @7.1.3    6 years ago

Amazing ain't it.    jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.7    6 years ago
Who are they to say we aren’t? 

Apparently you are confused.   I never said or even hinted that you were not a Christian.   Indeed, you are very deeply a Christian.

Where were you all when liberal Christians /Lincoln project people were questioning our Christianity?

Not sure.   But you are clearly confused so figure out what you are complaining about and maybe ask a better question.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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7.1.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.7    6 years ago

You question theirs all the time. One's faith has nothing to do with their politics. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.1.10  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.5    6 years ago
Who were those Lincoln project Types to say that about us?

Your whataboutism is noted Xx. Stop deflecting and take ownership for your own comments. 

Secondly, if you want to address the Lincoln Project, post a seed about it. Your practice of piggybacking your animus takes your own seed off topic. 

Oh and your still pretending to speak for others. 

As a denier of the Christian God of the Bible why get involved in a dispute among those who say we believe?  

Because it's hypocritical. 'Secular progressives' have every right to point that out hypocrisy when they see it. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.1.11  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.6    6 years ago
There was none.  

You are the only one that believes that. 

The Christian Left often side’s with secularists rather than other Christians on most every issue. They are becoming secular 

The 'Christian left' supports the secular Constitution. The HORROR!

secularist: a person who advocates separation of the state from religious institutions.

Anyone who has read the Constitution knows that our founders were secularist from the get go. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.1.13  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.12    6 years ago
More and more there is a direct connection between ones faith or lack there of and their politics.  Religious liberals and secular conservatives are both declining in numbers.  

Another unfounded proclamation Xx. You have no evidence to support your claim about secular conservatives and the most recent studies [2014] refute your proclamation. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8  TᵢG    6 years ago

Well this is nothing new.   Religious people have been fighting each other for all of recorded history.   Those who do not believe exactly as you do are 'them'.    In result, history has shown brutal bloodshed and torture as religious factions sought to wipe out those with different beliefs.    Imagine going on a crusade to wipe out Protestants because they dare read the Bible and not go through the Catholic church for their religious information?

The many denominations of Christianity alone show that religious beliefs are all over the map.   Every faction thinks it has the handle on truth.   The truth, however, is that religions have no evidence suggesting they are anything more than man-made constructs based on human imagination.   All these religions proclaim divine truth and none of them can back that up.

Yeah, sure, liberal Christians are ' no true Christians '.    How ridiculous people are.

 
 
 
evilone
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9  evilone    6 years ago

I don't give two shits whether there are left Christians or right Christians. I do however like to point out the hypocrisy of the group that professes there is war on Christianity starts telling other Christians who and what they are or are not. It's very telling.

 
 
 
katrix
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9.1  katrix  replied to  evilone @9    6 years ago

As TiG pointed out, religious people have been fighting each other for all of recorded history. It's the literalists, the fundies, the evangelists who seem to be most likely to hate other Christians these days. I guess because most other Christians actually are logical and rational people, which offends literalists.

 
 
 
evilone
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9.1.1  evilone  replied to  katrix @9.1    6 years ago
It's the literalists, the fundies, the evangelists who seem to be most likely to hate other Christians these days.

If they got along then they couldn't claim everyone was out to get 'em. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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10  Tacos!    6 years ago

Look . . . there's a lot wrong here. I could never hit it all. I think fundamentally, there's this conceit that if someone disagrees with you, they are in league with the devil. Truthfully, you don't know that. You can't know that. It's a sanctimonious assertion in a religion that values humility. That conflict alone should shock people out of this kind of thinking. Unfortunately, it doesn't.

which is legalized theft.

If it's legalized, it cannot be theft. Theft is the wrongful, unlawful taking of someone else's property with the intent to permanently deprive them of it. By contrast, taxes are enacted by legislatures lawfully elected by the people. You might think taxes are a bad idea, but under our system of government, they are not - and can not be - "theft." 

all manner of illegitimate programs

Again, we have a representative government, democratically elected by the people. Our legal representatives design and implement the programs. They are then subjected to judicial review. If the people still don't like the programs, they have the authority and opportunity to elect new representatives to change or eliminate the programs. They, therefore, can not be "illegitimate."

but voluntarily helped by Christians not government.

I think most people don't have a problem with Christians volunteering their charity. However, Jesus did not say that government couldn't be involved as well. In fact, all this stuff related to government presented as "Jesus didn't say . . . " is disingenuous. As far as we know, Jesus didn't about preach about government at all except to say the bit about rendering unto Caesar that which is already his. And really that comment wasn't about God's plan for government. Jesus's ministry pretty clearly wasn't at all about what good government should look like. He wasn't trying to be a political scientist.

the pursuit of anti-family and anti-religious policies

Feel free to disagree with a liberal policy, but your disagreement doesn't make it "anti-family" or "anti-religious." There is probably some debate term I don't know for this kind disingenuous hyperbole. Just consider all the legislators with families who enact these policies. How can they be "anti-family" when they have families? Most of our representatives are also pretty religious people. How can they be "anti-religion?"

The Bible does not teach situational ethics (where people try to figure out what is right without God), it teaches God’s ethics.

This is a misrepresentation of what "situational ethics" is. As I understand it (and I'm no professional philosopher, so don't just take me at my word), situational ethics takes its cues from the fact that God prioritizes love.

28 One of the scribes came near and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, he asked him, “Which commandment is the first of all?” 29 Jesus answered, “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one; 30 you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32 Then the scribe said to him, “You are right, Teacher; you have truly said that ‘he is one, and besides him there is no other’; 33 and ‘to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the strength,’ and ‘to love one’s neighbor as oneself,’—this is much more important than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.” 34 When Jesus saw that he answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” After that no one dared to ask him any question. Mark 12:28-34

So it's wrong to say that people are trying to figure out what is right "without God." They, are in fact, thinking of God and determining the course of action that comes from love. They aren't just making it up as they go.

 
 
 
lib50
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10.1  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @10    6 years ago

I'm feeling your rainbow today, tacos.

 
 
 
Steve Ott
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11  Steve Ott    6 years ago

This has been an interminable debate within christendom since the beginning. As Raven Wing stated, only your god is the one who will sort it out.

To those who consider themselves members of the “Christian left,” I leave you with a question posed by Jesus Christ, “And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46, KJV). I would also ask this of the "Christian right". After all, it was and still is the right that still fills the KKK. It was the right that fought and still fights desegregation. It was the right that passed Jim Crow.

Not only does this article show why christians must never rule, it shows why no religion should rule.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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11.1  Gordy327  replied to  Steve Ott @11    6 years ago
Not only does this article show why christians must never rule, it shows why no religion should rule.

Indeed. History has shown, often with bloody results, what happens when religion does rule.

 
 
 
lady in black
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11.1.1  lady in black  replied to  Gordy327 @11.1    6 years ago

All one has to do is look at England and Henry VIII and his offspring

He leaves the Catholic faith and becomes the head of the Church of England all so he could divorce Catherine of Aragon and marry Anne Boleyn who he then beheads because she didn't give him a male heir.

Prior to leaving the Catholic faith he had heretics non-Catholics burned at the stake

After leaving the Catholic faith he had heretics non-Anglicans burned at the stake

Then you had Queen Mary burn heretics non-Catholics

Then you had Queen Elizabeth burn heretics non-Anglicans

That's only one family.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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12  Jeremy Retired in NC    6 years ago
Throughout the  Bible theft and stealing are sins that are prohibited. Yet the left’s position today is for exorbitant taxation and for unconstitutional purposes, which is legalized theft.
Ironic that you make these accusations but right in the novella Matthew Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."
Sadly, many churches have insidiously been infiltrated by Marxist ideology, craftily taking parts of the Bible they like to buttress a radical agenda while ignoring the bulk of Scripture and spirit of God’s law
I guess you don't really know the history of Christianity.  This has been going on from the start.  EVERY church, EVERY follower.
 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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13  sandy-2021492    6 years ago

This seed marginalized Christians.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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13.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  sandy-2021492 @13    6 years ago

I have to agree with you Sandy. Who is anyone to judge people's faith and love of country?

 
 

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