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Bashing prayer in times of crisis

  

Category:  Religion & Ethics

Via:  heartland-american  •  6 years ago  •  332 comments

By:   Jerry Newcombe

Bashing prayer in times of crisis
the Continental Congress called for “a day of public humiliation, fasting and prayer; that we may, with united hearts and voices, unfeignedly confess and deplore our many sins; and offer up our joint supplications to the all-wise, omnipotent, and merciful Disposer of all events; humbly beseeching him to forgive our iniquities, to remove our present calamities, to avert those desolating judgments, with which we are threatened. ... And it is recommended to Christians, of all denominations, to...

National days of prayer may be doubted by post modern blasphemers who hate and resent certain aspects of American tradition and history but they are very much a part of our America culture.  Our country was founded by divine Providence and our Rights originated from the creator Himself arming to the founders of our exceptional America.  Just like it was great that American leaders turned to Prayer in troubling times through out our history, it’s good now as well to add prayer t facts and data in our current struggle with illness. Caused by covid -19.


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President Trump, who is doing everything he can to fight the coronavirus, called for a Day of Prayer recently. He proclaimed, “We are a Country that, throughout our history, has looked to God for protection and strength in times like these.”

But David Hogg, a Parkland shooting survivor, tweeted: “Don’t let this administration address COVID-19 like our national gun violence. [Expletive] a National day of prayer, we need immediate comprehensive action.”

U.S. Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib, famous for her declaration to “impeach the [expletive]” even retweeted Hogg’s message. Dr. William Donohue, the president of the Catholic League, notes: Tlaib, as a U.S. representative, should be censured for her “obscene assault on people of faith.”

Meanwhile, an honest survey of American history shows that Trump is much closer to America’s true history by calling for days of prayer than are Hogg and Tlaib.

David Barton, a walking encyclopedia on the spiritual heritage of America, once told me, "Between 1633 and 1812, there were over 1,700 prayer proclamations issued in the colonies, where the governor would call the state to an annual day of prayer and fasting, annual day of prayer of and thanksgiving."

Bill Federer’s book,  America’s God and Country , documents such historic practices.

For example, on May 31, 1775, one American colonist, Samuel Langdon, spoke before the Massachusetts Provincial Congress, calling on them to pray because of the ongoing crisis with Great Britain.

He lamented, “We have rebelled against God. We have lost the true spirit of Christianity, though we retain the outward profession and form of it. We have neglected…the glorious Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ and His holy commands and institutions.”

Who was this Langdon? Some backwoods rube? No. This was the president of Harvard, where Hogg attends school now.

During the American War for Independence, on at least 15 separate occasions, Congress called for national days of prayer, humiliation, and fasting. These were not namby-pamby, “To Whom It May Concern”-type prayers.

Here are two examples of Days of Prayer called by the Continental Congress — which, by the way, opened in prayer on its first day ever (in 1774), and Congress has opened in prayer ever since.

Example One: On June 12, 1775, the Continental Congress called for “a day of public humiliation, fasting and prayer; that we may, with united hearts and voices, unfeignedly confess and deplore our many sins; and offer up our joint supplications to the all-wise, omnipotent, and merciful Disposer of all events; humbly beseeching him to forgive our iniquities, to remove our present calamities, to avert those desolating judgments, with which we are threatened. ... And it is recommended to Christians, of all denominations, to assemble for public worship, and to abstain from servile labour and recreations on said day.”

At the end of the day, God answered the spirit of the prayer — that the crisis would be resolved. They could assemble physically in those days. With the coronavirus, at best we can “assemble” “virtually” for the moment. Yet thank God for these modern tools in our internet age.

Example Two: On March 16, 1776, the Continental Congress proclaimed another day of “humiliation, fasting, and prayer”: “that that we may, with united hearts, confess and bewail our manifold sins and transgressions, and, by a sincere repentance and amendment of life, appease his righteous displeasure, and, through the merits and mediation of Jesus Christ, obtain his pardon and forgiveness; humbly imploring his assistance to frustrate the cruel purposes of our unnatural enemies; and by inclining their hearts to justice and benevolence, prevent the further effusion of kindred blood.”

They continued to pray, recognizing that more suffering may yet come, as they worked toward their noble goal: “But if, continuing deaf to the voice of reason and humanity, and inflexibly bent, on desolation and war, they constrain us to repel their hostile invasions by open resistance, that it may please the Lord of Hosts, the God of Armies, to animate our officers and soldiers with invincible fortitude, to guard and protect them in the day of battle, and to crown the continental arms, by sea and land, with victory and success.”

This is quite an astounding prayer for an upstart, fledgling new “nation,” which for all practical purposes lacked a national army and navy.

But ultimately God answered their prayers — so much so that George Washington said that one would be “worse than an infidel” to not recognize the Lord’s help in our becoming an independent nation.

Earlier I quoted Harvard President Samuel Langdon in his 1775 speech, asking for God’s help. In that same speech, he made this petition — one that seems appropriate in our day, in our fight against the coronavirus: “May the Lord hear us in this day of trouble....We will rejoice in His salvation.” Well, maybe not  all  of us.


Jerry Newcombe, D.Min., is the senior producer and an on-air host for D. James Kennedy Ministries. He has written/co-written 32 books, e.g.,  The Unstoppable Jesus Christ, American Amnesia: Is American Paying the Price for Forgetting God?, What If Jesus Had Never Been Born?  (w/ D. James Kennedy), and the bestseller,  George Washington's Sacred Fire  (w/ Peter Lillback)   djkm.org  @newcombejerry       www.jerrynewcombe.com


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MrFrost
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3  MrFrost    6 years ago
President Trump, who is doing everything he can to fight the coronavirus, called for a Day of Prayer recently. He proclaimed, “We are a Country that, throughout our history, has looked to God for protection and strength in times like these.”

So much for that separation of church and state thing. Weird that the right wing "Christians" yell and scream about keeping Government out of our lives, then cheer when the government does exactly that. Can I assume that prayer was at some point banned, and this 'proclamation' was required to restore the need to sit in a quiet room talking to oneself, (AKA prayer)? In essence, a law was passed to ensure people could do what they already had the free ability to do. What a waste of legislation and time. People like that stupid fucker todd starnes was just last week encouraging people to congregate at churches, (and this morning, he was begging people to buy even more guns). I guess he either;

1) Thinks prayer will protect him from the coronavirus, or;

2) Wants people to die. 

Besides, I was under the impression that laws cannot be made regarding religion? 

Copeland was telling his flock that losing their jobs and not being able to pay their mortgage, is no excuse to not give money to his church... "I don't care if you have to live on the streets, I need another private jet!!!!!" Sad thing is that there are suckers out there that will do exactly what he wants them to do. 

I don't care if people pray, feel free. It won't actually do anything to help, but if it makes people feel better? Go for it. Just quit trying to force your religion down people's throats and stay the fuck off my porch.  

Trump has done everything he can to ignore and downplay the "Democrat Hoax" known as Covid-19. As recent as yesterday he said that he will not help states that don't praise him. Gov. Whitmer has received calls from surrounding states that say they have been told to not give any aid to Michigan. Where is that coming from? The Trump Admin. Have we forgotten all the lies trump has told about the COVID-19 response? "It's totally under control"...he said that whopper just a few weeks ago, now we are passing 100k people infected. Does that sound like it's, "totally under control"? Then he lied about the severity, the rate of infection, the drugs used to treat it, (there are none, per Dr. Fauci), the mortality rate and the lies about the tests.. Why exactly did trump turn down the testing kits the W.H.O offered? We clearly needed them. Oh that's right, Kushner's brother owns a company that can make the tests and that donny has stock in...Naw, I'm sure it's just a big coincidence. The list of lies goes on and on, that's NOT "doing everything he can to fight coronavirus". 

In the early stages, there were Americans on cruise ships that were infected. Trump: "Well we don't want them in the USA, the numbers would make me look bad." Trump is more concerned about his image that helping fellow Americans. Just out of curiosity, how much of the money trump stole for his wall will be appropriated for fighting COVID-19? Not one cent. 

Trump loves America, just not the people in it. Trump wants the entire country to praise him for being two months late during this pandemic? Um, no. He needs to do the right thing no matter what, not just help people that kiss his ass. That's not an American value that I remember. 

If you seriously think trump is doing all he can? You have been lied to, big time. 

Christian Post? Yea, I am sure they are unbiased. 

Lastly. Our government throws around the term, "trillion" like it's just some arbitrary number, (all presidents going back to Ray Gun have done it). Give it the respect it deserves. If the 2 TRILLION dollar stimulus were seconds, it would last 64,000 years. A "TRILLION" is a shockingly big number. 

512 512 512

 
 
 
lady in black
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3.1  lady in black  replied to  MrFrost @3    6 years ago

I'd vote this up 100x....why are some people BLIND to the horrendous job crooked donnie is doing....kiss my ring, say nice things and I'll send help, otherwise go piss up a drain pipe...great american president /s

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  lady in black @3.1    6 years ago

He is, in every way that matters, a horrible human being. 

Also, thank you. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @3.1.3    6 years ago
where he fits in on many levels while simultaneously sticking it right back in their faces. Something that continues to be ignored yet is so prominent to this very day

for the sake of clarification, which right wing deity is being described?

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @3.1.6    6 years ago
are you here for the anti-Christian bigotry fest?

the anti-fake xtian bashing fest to be precise.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.10  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.9    6 years ago

Neither do you!

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.12  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.11    6 years ago
I don’t sit in judgement over others.

Funny how you've done it so often.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.14  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.13    6 years ago

Not even a little.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4  Sparty On    6 years ago

Haters gotta hate.    It’s a universal constant.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.2  Tacos!  replied to  Sparty On @4    6 years ago
Haters gotta hate.    It’s a universal constant.

True. Although, too be fair to most of America, I don't think we should put too much stock in a couple of stone-hearted jerks on Twitter. Even if they are sorta famous.

 
 
 
Cathar
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5  Cathar    6 years ago

Jesus Christ died on the cross to save us from our sins. tRump wants Americas to suffer to save him from his sins.

 
 
 
Cathar
Freshman Silent
6  Cathar    6 years ago

When White Evangelicals and their leaders like the Lt. Governor of Texas believe the elderly need to die to save Wall Street they are not Christians. They want others to pay for their sins.

 
 
 
Cathar
Freshman Silent
7  Cathar    6 years ago

I pray every day to save the least of us from suffering. tRump lies every day to protect himself and his Presidency. The "Two Corinthians" President believes in only one prophet and that is profit.

 
 
 
lady in black
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9  lady in black    6 years ago

When was the last time crooked donnie ACTUALLY went to church?

His church is the golf course

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.1  MrFrost  replied to  lady in black @9    6 years ago

He has said in the past he is an atheist, but saying he is a Christian gets him more votes. Oldest con in the book, "tell the people what they want to hear and they will follow you anywhere". Just like Jim Jones. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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9.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.1    6 years ago

It is a well known fact in NY, that Trump never set foot into a church when he was not the president. His lineage might have been Presbyterian (not even sure of that, since he is of German background which would make him either Catholic or Lutheran), but he was non-practicing. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.2    6 years ago

He said in his book that he is an Atheist, which he claimed gave him and edge over Christians when making a deal. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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9.1.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MrFrost @9.1.4    6 years ago

I know that Mr. F, but I don't think that it's common knowledge.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
9.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  Release The Kraken @9.1.3    6 years ago

Don’t forget the 10 Hail Hillary’s for balance

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.6    6 years ago

Gee, would that be the very same book so many said he didn't write??

If he said he was a full blown Christian, would you be saying that? Nope. He said it, deal with it, your spin and dance doesn't change  that fact. Sorry. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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9.1.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.6    6 years ago
Gee, would that be the very same book so many said he didn't write??

His ideas, ghost writer. There is a difference. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.1.14  MrFrost  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.5    6 years ago

I know that Mr. F, but I don't think that it's common knowledge.

I'm aware, but in the interests of continuity, I had to reply to you, even if it was meant for people other than yourself. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.1.15  MrFrost  replied to    6 years ago

512

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.1.16  MrFrost  replied to    6 years ago

Please, tell us what makes trump a Christian? Is it the lying? Sexual assault? etc..? 

If trump is a Christian, (and I highly doubt it), he is the worst one ever. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.1.19  MrFrost  replied to    6 years ago

Um, you may want to read down the thread...

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.1.20  MrFrost  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.18    6 years ago

Which book was it?

Kind of a short list.... I mean, he has published more books than he has read....mostly because he  can't read. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.1.24  MrFrost  replied to    6 years ago

Yes you are, thanks for admitting it.  because Politifact and snopes are more reliable than the simpleminded memes you appear to use. 

Nope, what you posted is fake news. Nothing but right wing media BS. 

I mean, that's what the right says every single time something negative is said about trump. 

 
 
 
JBB
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9.1.27  JBB  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.2    6 years ago

In his youth along with his family Trump attended Dr Norman Vincent Peale's Marble Collegient Church. Peale preached a predecessor of the evangelical prosperity gospwl also known as the worship of money.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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9.1.29  Tacos!  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.2    6 years ago
It is a well known fact in NY, that Trump never set foot into a church when he was not the president.

He has never made me think of him as a person of faith, but that is not my issue to judge. When it comes to voting for president, it's not terribly important to me, although I am glad to see him bring it up a lot now that he is president.

 
 
 
Cathar
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10  Cathar    6 years ago

Anyone supporting tRump and claim they are Christians is but they are only so as reflected in Matthew 23.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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11  Larry Hampton    6 years ago

The great holy man rump calls for prayer huh?!

5 And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their full reward.   6 But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

7 And when you pray, do not babble on like pagans, for they think that by their many words they will be heard.   8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.

Matthew 6:5-8

 
 
 
Tacos!
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11.4  Tacos!  replied to  Larry Hampton @11    6 years ago

He also prayed with the group and preached in public every day, so he wasn't exactly trying to tell people to hide in their house and never be public about their faith. He just didn't want people doing it for show.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
12  MrFrost    6 years ago

Apparently, having faith isn't enough.

James 2:14-26   New King James Version (NKJV)

Faith Without Works Is Dead

14  What   does it   profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?   15  If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food,   16  and   one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what   does it   profit?   17  Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18  But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.”   Show me your faith without   [ a ] your works,   and I will show you my faith by   [ b ] my works.   19  You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!   20  But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is   [ c ] dead?   21  Was not Abraham our father justified by works   when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?   22  Do you see   that faith was working together with his works, and by   works faith was made   [ d ] perfect?   23  And the Scripture was fulfilled which says,   “Abraham believed God, and it was   [ e ] accounted to him for righteousness.”   And he was called   the friend of God.   24  You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

25  Likewise,   was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent   them   out another way?

26  For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
15  MrFrost    6 years ago

Enjoy your Saturday folks. Going to have surgery Monday so I gotta tie up some loose ends. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
15.2  Ender  replied to  MrFrost @15    6 years ago

Best of luck ! Come back safe !

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
15.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MrFrost @15    6 years ago

Be well and be safe. Best of wishes.. 

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
15.5  charger 383  replied to  MrFrost @15    6 years ago

Hope all goes well and a quick recovery

 
 
 
Gordy327
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15.6  Gordy327  replied to  MrFrost @15    6 years ago

Good luck MrFrost.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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15.6.2  Gordy327  replied to  Release The Kraken @15.6.1    6 years ago

No thank you. Prayer is not my style.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
15.6.3  Tacos!  replied to  Gordy327 @15.6.2    6 years ago
Prayer is not my style.

But you believe in luck.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
15.6.4  Gordy327  replied to  Tacos! @15.6.3    6 years ago

No, I don't. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
15.6.5  Tacos!  replied to  Gordy327 @15.6.4    6 years ago
But you believe in luck.
No, I don't. 

You clearly do or you wouldn't have said: 

Good luck MrFrost.

You put your faith in something you probably can't define completely and have no way of proving exists. Yet you made a wish MrFrost should enjoy some "good luck" whatever that is.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Quiet
15.8  KDMichigan  replied to  MrFrost @15    6 years ago

Maybe President Trump can ad you to his day of prayer.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
15.9  Sparty On  replied to  MrFrost @15    6 years ago

Good luck Frosty ..... good vibes coming from Michigan for a successful surgery.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
Professor Quiet
17  Larry Hampton    6 years ago

Stay frosty sir!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
18  devangelical    6 years ago

gee, I wonder how many days of prayer it's going to take for trumpski's true believers.

 
 

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