A Meeting of Diplomats

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  one month ago  •  90 comments

A Meeting of Diplomats
"The Chinese delegation ... seems to have arrived intent on grandstanding, focused on public theatrics and dramatics over substance," the official, who asked to remain anonymous, told reporters in Anchorage, according to Reuters. "They made that clear by promptly violating protocol."

A Chinese delegation met with a delegation of Biden administration diplomats yesterday in Anchorage, Alaska. China's representatives wasted no time in demonstrating to the Biden crew who was the world's new super power. The Biden team claimed that the two sides had agreed on two-minute opening statements, yet the Chinese delegation's statement ended up going for more than an hour.  Chinese state media called the U.S. presentation "inhospitable" and claimed that it was U.S. officials who had spoken for too long.

It seems that U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken thought he was going to walk in and take a tough stand with China as President Trump had done.

"Blinken said the U.S. would bring up its "deep concerns" about issues related to the government’s repression of Uyghurs in Xinjiang, as well as anti-democracy efforts in "Hong Kong, Taiwan, cyber attacks on the United States [and] economic coercion of our allies" during the first official talks of the Biden administration." 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-official-accuses-china-of-grandstanding-in-tense-bilateral-talks


"China, for its part, accused the U.S. of meddling in the country’s domestic affairs, claimed the United States has a human rights problem and said the U.S. military uses its might to suppress other countries. 

A Biden official called a second meeting Thursday evening “substantive, serious, and direct,” saying both sides were able to outline their interests and priorities, Reuters reported. 

A third meeting is scheduled for Friday morning."

https://www.usatodaysun.com/us-official-accuses-china-of-grandstanding-in-tense-bilateral-talks/




Unfortunately for Blinken, China has already sized up Joe Biden and they got exactly what they wanted - a senile weakling backed by progressive weaklings. The pandemic really paid nice dividends, didn't it?  It is Xi Jinping that stirs the drink and the world better get used to it!  If they get angry enough, who knows, maybe some rogue Chinese Army Colonel might just unleash another pandemic.

Has a CCP delegation ever treated a US delegation like this?


So what are Joe's handlers going to do about it?



Something tells me they'll get used to it.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

So much for "getting tough."

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

how many trademarks have they awarded to biden's daughter so far?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  devangelical @1.1    one month ago

How many has she applied for? There would be your answer...................ZIP. Doesn't have anything to trademark.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @1.1    one month ago
 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.1    one month ago

You mean to say that Biden's daughter hasn't stolen any Italian designs yet?

/s

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago
So much for "getting tough."

So much bias bullshit. Your usatodaysun link merely regurgitates the article from the fox link. 

Too bad neither chose to report the story as well as Reuters did: 

The run-up to the talks in Anchorage, Alaska, which followed visits by U.S. officials to allies Japan and South Korea, was marked by a flurry of moves by Washington that showed it was taking a tough stance, and by blunt talk from Beijing.

“We will ... discuss our deep concerns with actions by China, including in Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Taiwan, cyber attacks on the United States, economic coercion of our allies,” U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken told his Chinese counterparts in a highly unusual extended back-and-forth in front of cameras.

...

On the eve of the talks, the United States issued a flurry of actions directed at China, including a move to begin revoking Chinese telecoms licenses, subpoenas to multiple Chinese information technology companies over national security concerns, and updated sanctions on China over a rollback of democracy in Hong Kong.

...

At the talks on Thursday, Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi questioned Blinken about whether the sanctions were announced ahead of the meeting on purpose.

So the US meet with allies in the region FIRST, released our intentions to take substantive action and then laid out an agenda. ALL of which pissed off China. 

Gee I guess you and yours would have preferred that Biden invited Xi to his home in Delaware in February so he could tell him about HIS missile strike on Syria. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.2    one month ago
So the US meet with allies in the region FIRST, released our intentions to take substantive action and then laid out an agenda.

Tell us what that is?

Is he going to have Hunter return the money he was paid?

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.2  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    one month ago

It's linked in YOUR seed and I quoted it in my comment Vic. READ it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.2.2    one month ago
It's linked in YOUR seed and I quoted it in my comment Vic. READ it. 

Sorry, I didn't see any actions listed. Explain YOURSELF.

China just humiliated the US delegation and Putin just challenged Biden to a debate. What are the consequences?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dulay @1.2.2    one month ago

You might have to pull his own seed apart to show him

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.5  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.3    one month ago
Sorry, I didn't see any actions listed.

Then you're avoiding what's right in front of your face. 

Explain YOURSELF.

There will NEVER be a day when I take orders from you Vic. 

China just humiliated the US delegation

That's delusional and contrary to the vast majority of the reporting on the meeting. 

and Putin just challenged Biden to a debate.

And? 

What are the consequences?

Of what Vic? 

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.6  Dulay  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.4    one month ago
China just humiliated the US delegation and Putin just challenged Biden to a debate. What are the consequences?

Hell, I can't even get him to READ what he's already posted. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2.7  Greg Jones  replied to  Dulay @1.2.6    one month ago

What he stated really happened. Does this show that Biden and his band incompetent morons were unprepared and in over their heads.

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.8  Dulay  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.7    one month ago
What he stated really happened. 

What WHO stated Greg? 

Does this show that Biden and his band incompetent morons were unprepared and in over their heads.

WHAT are you talking about Greg? Be specific. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

BTW, Every Democrat is now on the record: They just voted to keep Eric Swalwell on the House Intelligence Committee—despite his long-standing relationship with a reported Chinese spy.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    one month ago

bwah ha ha , oh that's right, FOX viewers have no idea about all the traitors in the trump administration that's been in the headlines for 3 days now ...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    one month ago
BTW, Every Democrat is now on the record

Pure partisan BS

despite his long-standing relationship with a reported Chinese spy.

Why do you insist on character assassination like this?  The FBI told him she was suspicious in 2015,

he and other officials stopped seeing her and she skedaddled back to China to disappear under her real name 6 years ago.

In 2014 Fang was reportedly involved in fund raising for Swalwell,

even the most partisan observer can't  describe that as a "longstanding relationship"

Fang was actually a part of Tulsi Gabbard's campaign in 2013 also.  Should we ban Tulsi from politics as well?

 
 
 
Gazoo
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2.2.1  Gazoo  replied to  Split Personality @2.2    one month ago

“Pure partisan BS“

coming from one who is as partisan as anyone here,,,,,oh the irony, lol.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  Gazoo @2.2.1    one month ago
oh the irony, lol.

right back at ya, lol.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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2.2.3  Gazoo  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.2    one month ago

The difference? I don’t accuse others of being partisan while acting like i’m bi-partisan.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.2.4  Dulay  replied to  Gazoo @2.2.3    one month ago

WHO was 'acting like' they are bi-partisan in this thread? 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2.5  Split Personality  replied to  Gazoo @2.2.3    one month ago

Accuse?  The man is legendary for his eviscerations  of the progressive, liberal human scum. ( his own words )

He's proud of it. He wants to "teach" "our readers".

Me?  I don't believe a single person can be bi-partisan, it takes two people by definition, and I'm certainly not neutral.

I just try to be as reasonable as possible, while disagreeing without being insulting and rude as possible.

It is a challenge, I 'll admit, lol.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.5    one month ago

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.6    one month ago

To everyone in this thread. These comments are bordering on the personal. Please talk about the comment and not the person. Next comment will get a ticket.  

 
 
 
MAGA
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2.2.8  MAGA  replied to  Gazoo @2.2.1    one month ago

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Tessylo
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2.2.9  Tessylo  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2.7    4 weeks ago

So as usual, I get the tickets, and the points, as usual.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

More bad news:

Russia’s Putin challenges Biden to a live public ‘discussion’

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SteevieGee
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3.1  SteevieGee  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    one month ago

Kinda like the "public discussion" Trump had with him and came out wiping his chin?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  SteevieGee @3.1    one month ago
"Kinda like the "public discussion" Trump had with him and came out wiping his chin?"

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Ronin2
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3.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  SteevieGee @3.1    one month ago

Only in your wet dreams.

 
 
 
MAGA
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3.1.3  MAGA  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1.2    4 weeks ago

Lol!  Good one!  

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.2  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    one month ago

It's nice to see that the GOP is rallying around the party leader....Tru....I mean, Putin. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  MrFrost @3.2    one month ago

Nice to see Democrats pulling the same double standard as always, and never admit when their leaders fuck up.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2.1    4 weeks ago

Your loser former 'leader' was the ultimate fuck up.  His ugly fat face is in the dictionary as the definition of fuck up.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4  Ronin2    one month ago

[deleted] Why should the Chinese pretend it is anything different? The Chinese know exactly who they are dealing with.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @4    one month ago

That's the paradox for Biden - How does one bluff while holding no cards whatsoever?

 
 
 
MAGA
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4.2  MAGA  replied to  Ronin2 @4    4 weeks ago

They are dealing with a pathetic moron now.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5  Greg Jones    one month ago

Unfortunately for Blinken, China has already sized up Joe Biden and they got exactly what they wanted - a senile weakling backed by progressive weaklings.

Pretty much sums it up.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @5    one month ago

It doesn't say much for Blinken either. He should have left that summit as soon as the CCP representatives attacked the United States. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.1  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    one month ago

Right because what America needs most are Diplomats that RUN from mean WORDS. /s

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @5.1.1    one month ago

What are these actions YOU mentioned?

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.3  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    one month ago
It's linked in YOUR seed and I quoted it in my comment Vic. READ it. 

AGAIN, it's linked in YOUR seed and I quoted it in my comment Vic. READ it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @5.1.3    one month ago

AGAIN, YOU have failed.

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.5  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    one month ago
AGAIN, YOU have failed.

At WHAT Vic? Hand feeding you information that has ALREADY been posted?

I can't FORCE you to read your own fucking seed and follow the links. NOR can I FORCE you to have a cogent understanding of the block quote that I posted. 

Adult and READ the article you seeded Vic, I DID. 

 
 
 
MAGA
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5.1.6  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @5.1.1    one month ago

If they don’t show is the respect America deserves we should walk out on their asses.   They can deal with America with respect or not at all.  That’s not too much to ask.  They freaking wouldn’t have done that to a Trump delegation 

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.7  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @5.1.6    one month ago

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Vic Eldred
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5.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MAGA @5.1.6    4 weeks ago

You bet they wouldn't!

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.9  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.8    4 weeks ago

Why would they Vic?

Xi says "he would partner with the new U.S. President “to uphold the principles of non-conflict, non-confrontation, mutual respect, and win-win cooperation.”

Then Tillerson says " “the U.S. side is ready to develop relations with China based on the principle of no conflict, no confrontation, mutual respect, and win-win cooperation.”

Rinse and repeat...

 
 
 
MAGA
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5.1.10  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @5.1.1    4 weeks ago

No you walk out to defend and uphold the honor of the United States of America but our so called leaders there had and have no clue as to what that is.  

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.11  Dulay  replied to  Dulay @5.1.7    4 weeks ago

Since when is using a NT authorized emoji a ticket Charger? 

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.12  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @5.1.10    4 weeks ago
No you walk out to defend and uphold the honor of the United States of America but our so called leaders there had and have no clue as to what that is.

HOW does walking out do that Xx? 

BTFW, I suggest that you review the importance of 'saving face' in Asian culture' and make an attempt suss out the effect of the US 'walking out'. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @5.1.11    4 weeks ago

been that way for a while now.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

The AP celebrated the statement from Team Biden that “Diplomacy is Back”. 

Lol

Meanwhile, it's back to Delaware...


 
 
 
Hallux
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6.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    one month ago

What happened is that Joe tripped on Donald's toilet paper. Do I need to dredge up that video?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    one month ago

It's just his stutter. Nothing to see here. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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6.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2    one month ago

It's just his stutter. Nothing to see here. 

512

 
 
 
MrFrost
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6.3  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    one month ago

Um, so?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Masters Principal
6.4  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    one month ago
President Joe Biden stumbles while boarding Air Force One in Delaware

Seriously, can you tell me why this is an issue? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.4.1  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @6.4    4 weeks ago
'Seriously, can you tell me why this is an issue?'

It's not.  

"Unfortunately for Blinken, China has already sized up Joe Biden and they got exactly what they wanted - a senile weakling backed by progressive weaklings. The pandemic really paid nice dividends, didn't it?  It is Xi Jinping that stirs the drink and the world better get used to it!  If they get angry enough, who knows, maybe some rogue Chinese Army Colonel might just unleash another pandemic."

What a crock of bullshit!

This should be removed as false/defaming information against Asian Americans who have been assaulted and killed for lies like this

 
 
 
MAGA
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6.4.2  MAGA  replied to  Tessylo @6.4.1    4 weeks ago
"Unfortunately for Blinken, China has already sized up Joe Biden and they got exactly what they wanted - a senile weakling backed by progressive weaklings. The pandemic really paid nice dividends, didn't it?  It is Xi Jinping that stirs the drink and the world better get used to it!  If they get angry enough, who knows, maybe some rogue Chinese Army Colonel might just unleash another pandemic."

that sums up the present situation perfectly.  Great words well said.  

 
 
 
dennis smith
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6.4.3  dennis smith  replied to  MrFrost @6.4    4 weeks ago

see 6.5

 
 
 
dennis smith
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6.5  dennis smith  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    4 weeks ago

Joe Bidet has gotten so used to stumbling with his memory and words that he just added physical stumbling to to complete his trifecta. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  dennis smith @6.5    4 weeks ago

His one self preserving virtue seems to be doing as he is told.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

By all reports, China took a tough line at its first face-to-face meeting with the Biden Administration. Without a clear U.S. strategy, huge risk for the U.S. lies ahead. A return to Obama policies would be a big win for China....John Bolton


 
 
 
Dulay
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7.1  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    one month ago

An OPINION piece by John Bolton. 

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Hallux
Freshman Expert
8  Hallux    one month ago

Gee Vic ... does Kabuki theater escape you?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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8.1  Split Personality  replied to  Hallux @8    one month ago

used in political discourse to describe an event characterized more by showmanship than by content.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

What has happened here is that China has rightly used progressive rhetoric against the US. If America is an evil racist country, it has no right to criticize China or anyone else.

As for the Biden administration, it's foreign policies have it under siege. China feared Trump - they never knew what he might do. They don't fear Joe Biden and his progressive handlers.

Most ominous is what Vladimir Putin said after Biden called him a killer. Putin wished him "good health!"

 
 
 
pat wilson
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9.1  pat wilson  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    one month ago

You seem to be cheerleading for China and Putin. Kinda odd.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  pat wilson @9.1    4 weeks ago

That would be a switch!

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.2  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    one month ago
What has happened here is that China has rightly used progressive rhetoric against the US.

Can you name for me, the US leader that paid $186,000.00 in taxes in China? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @9.2    4 weeks ago

No, but I can name the Secretary of State who apologized to China - Antony Blinken

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.2.2  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.1    4 weeks ago

Link? 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.2.3  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.1    4 weeks ago

No, but I can name the Secretary of State who apologized to China - Antony Blinken

Here, let me help. 

While doing business between 2013 and 2015 Trump paid $188,561 in taxes to China. He paid $750 in taxes to the US in 2016 and 2017.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @9.2.3    4 weeks ago

Did Trump legally owe more taxes in the US?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9.2.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @9.2.3    4 weeks ago

That's false. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @9.2.5    4 weeks ago

No, it's true.

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.2.7  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @9.2.4    4 weeks ago

Cy Vance will be documenting the answer to your question soon. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
PhD Principal
9.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @9.2.7    4 weeks ago

Uh, uh, sure he will.

Yawn.

Wake me up when it ever happens.

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.2.9  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @9.2.8    4 weeks ago

Why would I bother Tex? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.2.10  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @9.2.9    4 weeks ago
Why would I bother Tex? 

I have no earthly idea why you do anything you do.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
9.2.11  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @9.2.10    4 weeks ago
I have no earthly idea why you do anything you do.

No worries Tex. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
PhD Principal
9.2.12  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @9.2.11    4 weeks ago

nope, none whatsoever!

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.2.13  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @9.2.5    4 weeks ago
That's false. 

No, it really isn't. Maybe you should look it up for yourself.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
9.3  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    4 weeks ago
China feared Trump

So did Americans. 

- they never knew what he might do.

Neither did Americans. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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10  Buzz of the Orient    one month ago

LOLOLOLOL.  Following this seed and discussion is more fun than watching a Marx Brothers comedy.  Forget the movies, the acting on the world stage is much more interesting. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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11  Nerm_L    4 weeks ago

More like a meeting of autocrats than a meeting of diplomats.

Joe Biden is going to revive Obama's pivot to Asia and the Trans Pacific Partnership, in some form.  The Chinese belligerence coupled with the current liberal focus on the Asian race card in the US only strengthens Biden's negotiating position around the Asian rim.  Kim Jong-Un only needs to begin throwing another tantrum to seal the deal.   

The immediate problem Biden will face is with the political left in the Democratic Party.  Chinese socialism appeals to the political left.  Biden has to create a distinction between 'good' Asians and 'bad' Asians.  We shouldn't be surprised that the Biden administration will begin some sort of media campaign to plant the idea that either the Chinese are no longer Asians or that the other people around the Pacific rim are Eastern Pacific Cultures and not Asians.  Democrats are masters of creating racial distinctions so that shouldn't be too difficult.

No doubt the Chinese understand Biden's intentions.  (As do the die-hard neo-liberal deadwood in the Republicans Party trying to protect the Chinese gravy train.)  China has already lost the United States so now the Chinese must attempt to create fear around the Pacific rim.  China will also redouble efforts to create discord between the US and Europe using neo-liberal free trade as a weapon.

Only just begun the neo-liberal war has.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12  Tessylo    4 weeks ago

Making it up as you go along?  As usual?

 
 
 
Texan1211
PhD Principal
13  Texan1211    4 weeks ago

Poor old Joe is finding out that Xi is certainly no Corn Pop!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
14  Buzz of the Orient    4 weeks ago

I have decided at this point to take issue with the frist paragraph of the introduction to this seed that criticizes China of "grandstanding", whatever that means.  Let's try to be a little more objective as to what happened. 

Just before the meeting, America meets with the "Quad" to gather support for its confronting China.  Immediately before the meeting it sanctions 24 Chinese officals over Hong Kong.  As the two sides sit down, the Americans immediately smear China for its domestic policies in Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Tibet, and Taiwan, crossing all of China's red lines.  Biden cogratulates his staff for their wonderful opening.  What was expected that China would do?  Get down on its hands and knees to grovel and kowtow to the Americans?  China asked if this was the way America wanted to welcome them to the USA.  China pointed out that maybe America should first look in a mirror before it criticizes others, like the genocide of the American Indians, like the racism and human rights violations in the USA.  And to that I'll add the Indian residential schools, the internment of Japanese Americans, the separating immigrant children from their parents and putting them in cages, and the world's record incarceration rate, the shooting deaths damn near every day, and America thinks it's so perfect it can dictate to and interfere in the domestic affairs of other nations.

Maybe all that was for show, to sate the public because it was meant to be publicized.  Apparently, however, that was followed by private meetings where there was at least SOME cooperation, and at least SOME things benefical to both nations were accomplished. 

 
 
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