Elon Musk's weekend: Plenty of tweets, little clarity

  

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Via:  perrie-halpern  •  4 weeks ago  •  198 comments

By:   Jason Abbruzzese

Elon Musk's weekend: Plenty of tweets, little clarity
Twitter's new "Chief Twit" spent the weekend tweeting — and it's still not any clearer what Elon Musk will do with his new company.

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It was a weekend that highlighted just how unpredictable and contradictory Musk can be.

Musk's plans for the 238 million-daily-user platform will have a sizable impact on speech on the internet — especially political speech — at a time of deep polarization in the U.S. Although it has a far smaller number of users than some of its competitors, its influence is outsized.

Musk's deal to buy Twitter was finalized Thursday, ending a lengthy and contentious battle in which he tried to back out of the deal and made a variety of disparaging comments about Twitter. Musk at various times promised to cut staff and change moderation practices.

But with few legal options to stop the deal, Musk in recent weeks began to change his tune, most notably tweeting Thursday that advertisers did not need to worry about the platform's becoming "a free-for-all hellscape, where anything can be said with no consequences." Along with a tweet Friday in which Musk said he planned to start a council at Twitter to decide on moderation issues, the overture to advertisers offered clear evidence that sudden and wide-reaching moves relaxing Twitter rules may not be forthcoming.

That does not mean they are off the table. Musk has surrounded himself with Silicon Valley veterans, some of whom have criticized Twitter's moderation work. Venture capitalists Jason Calacanis and Sriram Krishnan both tweeted over the weekend that they were involved. Calacanis tweeted over the weekend that Twitter will be "laser-focused on identity and safety in the coming weeks," including a "very comprehensive plan to reduce the number of (and visibility of) bots, spammers, & bad actors on the platform."

The Twitter headquarters in San Francisco, on April 26. Amy Osborne / AFP - Getty Images file

Moderation is the highest-profile and most hotly debated part of Musk's Twitter plans, but it may not be the most pressing. Dan Ives, a managing director and senior equity research analyst covering the technology sector at the investment firm Wedbush Securities, wrote in a note Friday that he sees the acquisition "as one of the most overpaid tech acquisitions in the history of M&A deals on the Street in our opinion."

That means Musk may need to spend more of his time focused on increasing revenue and limiting costs instead of making moves that could alienate users and advertisers — one of which could be turning Twitter into a broader app with features such as payments, which Musk has dubbed "X."

"Musk took over Twitter last night and now major questions will remain around changes to the platform, monetization efforts, the level of headcount cuts on the horizon, and the long term strategy around the 'X' App and building a potential WeChat model down the road," Ives wrote. "Musk now adds Twitter to his Tesla, SpaceX, and broader Elon ecosystem. Our price target is the deal price at $54.20."

Whether Musk will focus on that is an open question. He continued tweeting Sunday night, responding with a crying emoji after ABC late-night host Jimmy Kimmel called him "a fully-formed piece of s---" in response to Musk's tweet about Clinton. Later, he appeared to poke fun at his deleted tweet while also taking a swipe at The New York Times.

"This is fake — I did *not* tweet out a link to The New York Times!" Musk wrote alongside a screenshot of the Times' coverage of his deleted tweet.

190619-jason-abbruzzese-byline2419.jpg Jason Abbruzzese

Jason Abbruzzese is the senior editor for technology, science and climate for NBC News Digital.


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Split Personality
Professor Principal
1  Split Personality    4 weeks ago

Eratic Elon has suggested he will charge Twitter users $20 a moth to stay 'verified'.

I agree with Stephen King's reaction, " fuck this shit".

Bye Felicia...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @1    4 weeks ago

he'll have to charge to keep it afloat once the rwnj white supremacists and antisemites run off all the advertisers.

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
2  Revillug    4 weeks ago

Has anyone reached out to Musk to see if he is interested in buying NT?

It comes preloaded with an experienced garrison of right-wingers and conspiracy theory boosters..

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Expert
2.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Revillug @2    4 weeks ago

… and Russians.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1    4 weeks ago

What conspiracy theory sites are ya'll pulling this disinformation from?

Are you getting paid to post this crap?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Expert
2.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.1    4 weeks ago

 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.2    4 weeks ago

The things you swallow willingly!

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Expert
2.1.4  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.3    4 weeks ago

320

320

320
320320

Such an elaborate con!

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
2.1.5  Revillug  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.4    4 weeks ago

I'm not a hundred percent sure hypestat has accurate or up to date information.

I went looking for a website to see if it concurred with what hypestat is saying:

And it says most of the traffic is coming from the USA and a little bit from Pakistan.

The thing is, both of these websites are showing far more visitors than we ever see show up to make comments. And I kind of wonder what that traffic is? Is it web crawlers? Is it some kind of scam where bots hit websites to generate ad revenue? (This site does have its share of scammy looking ads.)

Newstalkers has a small universe of regulars who post content and comments but a very active moderation team who pretty much know us all.

There might be a Russian spy or two lurking about but at this point they are probably just here because they like the site and their frenemies in the USA.

I remember when my outlook on foreign policy echoed the Kremlin's. I wound up that way from reading articles in The Nation, Truthdig, and CounterPunch back when "real progressives" spent their days criticizing the Democrats from the left. 

Perrie very politely reached out to me in order to let me know that she has her own server data that does not agree with that snapshot of data I introduced from hypestat a few days ago. And now there is another website I found that shows a very different snapshot. It makes me wonder if a small website like NT is simply hard to monitor from the outside.

Over at Twitter, we can see that fish is about to rot from the head. The threat to that platform isn't from nebulous users who can't be trusted but from a maniacal billionaire at the top who can't be trusted.

 

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
2.1.6  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.1    4 weeks ago
What conspiracy theory sites are ya'll pulling this disinformation from?

[deleted]

And the "Right" is the only Conspiracy Theorists in "Their" Minds !

hahahahaha !

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @2.1.6    4 weeks ago

Some fools see "Russia, Russia, Russia" everywhere!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3  Ender    4 weeks ago

So twitter has about 70 percent of its user in other countries and he is going to let the other countries continue as usual and only allow the users in the US to have to deal with hate speech.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @3    4 weeks ago
only allow the users in the US to have to deal with hate speech.

After all, Biden is the president. We can't exactly stop him from demonizing half the country, can we?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.1.1  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    4 weeks ago

You shouldn't talk about demonizing after the mess you supported for four years....

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
3.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @3.1.1    4 weeks ago

No 9%+ inflation, low gas prices, low unemployment, a President that could put together a simple sentence, not abandoning US Citizens in a war zone. 

Such a mess.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.1.3  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.2    4 weeks ago

The delusion that some other president would have or could have fixed the economy...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
3.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @3.1.3    4 weeks ago

The delusion is thinking that the current one hadn't fanned it.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.5  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    4 weeks ago

This coming from you is hilarious. Did you forget that you’ve called the left evil?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @3.1.5    4 weeks ago

and?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.7  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    4 weeks ago

Pretty simple you’re whining about Biden yet you do exactly the same thing you are accusing him of.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @3.1.7    4 weeks ago

Are you suggesting that I turn the other cheek?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.1.3    4 weeks ago
The delusion that some other president would have or could have fixed the economy...

Damn, I never heard a liberal claim anything similar when a Republican is in the WH!

Gee, I wonder why..............................

Bunch of freaking hypocrites.

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
3.1.10  Revillug  replied to  Ender @3.1.3    4 weeks ago
The delusion that some other president would have or could have fixed the economy...

It's becoming clearer each day that many of our corporations got a taste of the higher profit margins that can be extracted in an environment of chronic shortages that they can continue to blame on Covid. It's sort of the corporate version of quiet quitting.

It's not just oil companies, but what they are up to is rippling out into everything else.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.1.11  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.4    4 weeks ago

Sure, a president trying to harm the economy just so he won't be elected again..

Makes a lot of sense...not.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.1.12  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.9    4 weeks ago

Ok, tell me what you think Biden has done to kill the economy....

(I already know what you are going to say...spending)

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.13  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.8    4 weeks ago

You can do anything you want, Vic it's still a hypocritical comment by you. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
3.1.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @3.1.11    4 weeks ago

Remember we are talking about Biden.  Not a single fucking thing he's done has made sense.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.1.12    4 weeks ago
Ok, tell me what you think Biden has done to kill the economy....

Jeez, do you ever bother to actually READ what I post, or do you just respond to whatever you make up I said?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.1.16  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.15    4 weeks ago

So no answer then?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.17  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.1.16    4 weeks ago

No, I can't explain what you have invented me claiming, sorry.

You'll have to invent an answer like you invented me saying that.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.1.18  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.17    4 weeks ago

[Deleted]

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.19  JohnRussell  replied to  Revillug @3.1.10    4 weeks ago

Heard this morning that Pepsi recorded 20% profit in its lasted earnings report. 

During a time when prices would rise anyway due to legitimate inflation, companies "add on" in order to juice their profits under the theory that the saps buying the stuff wont know any better anyway. If inflation is 7% why not make it 8% and turn that last percent into extra profit. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3    4 weeks ago
So twitter has about 70 percent of its user in other countries and he is going to let the other countries continue as usual and only allow the users in the US to have to deal with hate speech.

His company. No one is forced to be on Twitter.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2    4 weeks ago

Some of the radicals have already run out and formed TribelSocialNetwork as a kind of leftwing safe space

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.1    4 weeks ago
Some of the radicals have already run out and formed TribelSocialNetwork as a kind of leftwing safe space

Maybe that will keep them occupied and stop them from bitching about Musk so much.

Maybe.

When pigs fly!

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
3.2.3  George  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2    4 weeks ago

If you aren’t a moron, you realize that your business has to comply with the laws that your company operates in, so yes the rules are different for each country. Do you think our liberal friends will ever be able to figure this out?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.2    4 weeks ago

We will have some peace in 7 days. That's when they'll get ver-r-r-r-ry quiet!

Let's watch it together next Tuesday night.


BTW, I just checked the Polling in your state:

TEXAS POLL By University of Houston:

GOV (R) Greg Abbott 53% ( +13 )      (D) Beto O'Rourke 40%

LT GOV (R) Dan Patrick 51% ( +15 )  (D) Mike Collier 36%

AG (R) Ken Paxton 49% ( +12)          (D) Rochelle Garza 37%


https:// threadreaderapp.com/thread/1587210 994287271938.html

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  George @3.2.3    4 weeks ago
Do you think our liberal friends will ever be able to figure this out?

There is no evidence for such a hope.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.4    4 weeks ago

Another poll showing what many have realized for months.

Democrats insist that Texas is turning purple, but we keep electing Republicans to EVERY single statewide office for almost three decades.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2.7  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2    4 weeks ago

His company now. Stop acting like it has been all along.

Are you on twitter?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2.8  Ender  replied to  George @3.2.3    4 weeks ago

So I am the one that said there are different rules in other countries and you are wondering if 'Liberals' can figure it out?

I am wondering if conservatives ever have any response that doesn't piggy back off of others...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.2.7    4 weeks ago
His company now. Stop acting like it has been all along.

Well, get the old owners to do something. I'll wait.

Are you on twitter?

nope, are you?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2.10  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.9    4 weeks ago

Never have been, never will.

What is it that you think the execs need to do?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.11  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.2.10    4 weeks ago
What is it that you think the execs need to do?

I believe Musk can run his company however he wants and unless you are an owner, you don't get a say in it.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2.12  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.11    4 weeks ago

Never said I did, nor would I want to.

I think twitter and facebook have gone beyond the scope of what they were meant to be.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
3.2.13  Jack_TX  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.6    4 weeks ago
Democrats insist that Texas is turning purple,

It is purple.  It always has been.  It's just a little more red than blue.

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
3.2.14  Revillug  replied to  Jack_TX @3.2.13    4 weeks ago
It is purple.  It always has been.  It's just a little more red than blue.

It's not impossible that New York will elect a Trump loving Republican a week from now.

The race has been tightening and New York had a Republican governor right before Cuomo.

People sometimes forget how purple New York can be.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.2.15  cjcold  replied to  Ender @3.2.10    4 weeks ago

Started out on the Vine. Came here when the Vine closed. That's it.

Never been to Twitter, Facebook or anywhere else.

Life is complicated enough.

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
3.3  George  replied to  Ender @3    4 weeks ago
hate speech.

Another bull shit made up term like assault weapon, I'm glad that Musk now gets to define what that is, instead of the thin-skinned pussy's who ran twitter before.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
3.3.1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  George @3.3    4 weeks ago
hate speech. Another bull shit made up term like assault weapon

Gee, what do you call, "Kill the Jews"? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.3.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.3.1    4 weeks ago

Is that what Twitter was censoring?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.3.3  JohnRussell  replied to  George @3.3    4 weeks ago
I'm glad that Musk now gets to define what that is,

Thats a bizarre, disturbing, thought. Why the fuck should Elon Musk be deciding anything in the public sphere? 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.3.4  Ender  replied to  George @3.3    4 weeks ago

You need someone to define things for you?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.5  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.3.4    4 weeks ago
You need someone to define things for you?

Sure. Define what "is" means, what "recession" means for starters!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.3.6  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.5    4 weeks ago

Deflection is thy name.

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
3.3.7  George  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.3    4 weeks ago

Why should the ignorant fuktards who currently run Twitter decide? 
Musk owns the place and wants to promote free speech, why do you fear that? Are you afraid your ideas won’t survive the debate?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.8  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.3.6    4 weeks ago
Deflection is thy name.

YOU asked!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.3.9  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.8    4 weeks ago

And never got an answer...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.10  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.3.9    4 weeks ago

Awww.....................................get over it.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.3.11  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.10    4 weeks ago

Nothing to get over. I just know that you can't even back up what you say.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.12  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.3.11    4 weeks ago
Nothing to get over. I just know that you can't even back up what you say.

LMMFAO now!

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
3.3.13  George  replied to  Ender @3.3.4    4 weeks ago

Certainly not you! You use made up terms 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.3.14  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.12    4 weeks ago

Laugh it up. I am not the one running away from a simple question.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.15  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.3.14    4 weeks ago
Laugh it up.

I will! Comedy seems to be your niche!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.3.16  Ender  replied to  George @3.3.13    4 weeks ago

I do? This out to be fun.

What made up terms have I used?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.3.17  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.15    4 weeks ago

I guess that makes not being able to back up ones own statements yours.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.18  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.3.14    4 weeks ago
I am not the one running away from a simple question.

Really?

Then why haven't you given your definitions of 'is' and 'recession'?

You asked your 'simple question' in post 3.3.4.

I answered you in post 3.3.5, even though you have falsely claimed otherwise, for some strange reason when it is there to see.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.19  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.3.17    4 weeks ago
I guess that makes not being able to back up ones own statements yours.

Man, you are a shitty guesser. Probably should stop that.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.3.20  JohnRussell  replied to  George @3.3.7    4 weeks ago
Are you afraid your ideas won’t survive the debate?

when i debate with morons i ALWAYS win. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.3.21  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.18    4 weeks ago

Point it out to me because I don't see anywhere where you said what you think the reasons are for the shape of the economy.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.22  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.3.21    4 weeks ago
You asked your 'simple question' in post 3.3.4. I answered you in post 3.3.5, even though you have falsely claimed otherwise, for some strange reason when it is there to see.

Here it is--AGAIN!

You asked your 'simple question' in post 3.3.4.

I answered you in post 3.3.5, even though you have falsely claimed otherwise, for some strange reason when it is there to see.

And now for your next diversion and display of obtuseness?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.23  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.3.21    4 weeks ago
what you think the reasons are for the shape of the economy.

PLEASE follow at LEAST the basics of THIS conversation.

Do you really think we were discussing the economy?

Where did THAT come from?????

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
3.3.24  George  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.3.1    4 weeks ago

Free speech, it’s completely fucked up but we allow stupid people to say stupid things. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.3.25  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.23    4 weeks ago
 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
3.3.26  George  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.20    4 weeks ago

High bar you set there, so average intelligence you lose badly, no wonder you are always so angry. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.27  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.3.25    4 weeks ago
 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.3.28  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.27    4 weeks ago

That is still not an answer.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.3.29  JohnRussell  replied to  George @3.3.26    4 weeks ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.30  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.3.28    4 weeks ago
That is still not an answer.

It is, you just don't like it.

How on earth can I answer something I never said and you invented?

Now you want me to explain what you said?

Whoo boy, that is all kinds of fucked up!

Why can't you explain yourself?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.3.31  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.30    4 weeks ago

I can see this is going nowhere...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.32  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.3.31    4 weeks ago
I can see this is going nowhere...

At last!

That is what happens when you invent things and attempt to debate them. 

Helpful hint:

In the future when you invent stuff, you don't need to debate anyone about it other than yourself.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.3.33  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.32    4 weeks ago

In the future, be able to answer a direct question.

I will ask one more time. 

In your opinion, what has Biden done to make the economy worse?

Either answer or don't, I am done with games.

So go ahead and have the last word. I know that is important to you.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.34  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.3.33    4 weeks ago

(deleted)

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
3.3.35  Revillug  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.34    4 weeks ago
Biden's spending bills have accelerated that.

Covid relief started under Trump.

The U.S. Congress passed a $2.2 trillion stimulus bill called the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES) in March 2020 to blunt the economic damage set in motion by the global coronavirus pandemic.

It's often hard to have the last word when you are...wrong.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
3.3.36  Jack_TX  replied to  Revillug @3.3.35    4 weeks ago
Covid relief started under Trump.

Hence the term "accelerated".

We did not need additional Covid economic relief.  We got trillions of dollars worth anyway.  That most certainly contributed to our inflationary issues and the corresponding interest rate hikes.  

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
3.3.37  Revillug  replied to  Jack_TX @3.3.36    4 weeks ago

It's pretty arbitrary to point at the spending that was tapering off under Biden as the culprit. The Democrats themselves tempered the spending. Thank Manchin. Thank Sinema. And thank Biden.

And for the record, Trump even goaded the Democrats into increasing the last round of stimulus. He said they should be $2000.

The "too much money" in this economy is also not just the money put into people's hands. It's the money that's been put into bankers' hands with what are basically negative interest rates. And that most certainly was underway under Trump.

The Fed more than the administration screwed up here.

(Administrations don't micromanage the Fed.) 

The two biggest mistakes the Fed made, as far as I have read, are (1) keeping interest rates too low for too long and (2) continuing to purchase mortgage backed securities while the housing market was getting overheated.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.3.38  cjcold  replied to  George @3.3    4 weeks ago
hate speech.

Pretty sure that far-right wing hate speech and assault weapons exist. 

I own a very fine example of the later and try to avoid the former.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.39  Texan1211  replied to  Revillug @3.3.35    4 weeks ago
Covid relief started under Trump.

Very, very good.

Have I claimed differently?

Have you ever heard of the bills signed by Biden--some massive spending bills?

You know, the same ones Democrats are out touting as I type this?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.40  Texan1211  replied to  Revillug @3.3.35    4 weeks ago

The Biden White House has claimed credit for a 40 year-high in inflation.

Why do so many liberals insist that Biden has nothing to do with inflation when he is taking freaking CREDIT for it??

Please try to stick to one story, as claiming he isn't responsible while he claims credit is contradictory.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
3.4  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @3    4 weeks ago
have to deal with hate speech.

I think the question is how hate speech is defined.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.4.1  cjcold  replied to  Jack_TX @3.4    4 weeks ago
think the question is how hate speech is defined.

Pretty sure that you know it when you hear it.

[REMOVED]

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
3.4.2  Jack_TX  replied to  cjcold @3.4.1    4 weeks ago
Pretty sure that you know it when you hear it.

Maybe.

But I wouldn't have to look very far to find somebody who thinks using a pronoun they don't agree with constitutes "hate speech".

Not long ago, a group of students in Portland stormed out of a lecture screaming about hate speech and fascism because a Professor of Evolutionary Biology had the audacity to say men and women have different skeletal and muscular structures.

People like Jordan Petersen are declared misogynistic hatemongers for presenting statistics, while Lena Dunham can call for the extinction of white men and people think that's fine.

We see all sorts of scientists, economists, doctors, and other professionals denounced because they present factual information that a certain group of people doesn't want to hear.

Conversely, I was at a fundraiser dinner a few months ago, where we heard racial, gender and geographic hate speech all in the first 90 seconds of the opening remarks.  The overwhelmingly liberal audience either chuckled or applauded.  The next 2 hours of panel discussion didn't get better.

So yeah, I think some hate speech is easily recognized.  Other speech is falsely identified as "hate speech".  A good deal of other hate speech is ignored, simply because there are certain demographic groups that are deemed fair game.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.4.3  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @3.4.1    4 weeks ago

That was not meant as a personal assault at all.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

The author of this article should know that Musk is considering getting rid of advertisers all together and replacing them with a monthly subscription fee.






 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
4.1  Revillug  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    4 weeks ago
getting rid of advertisers all together and replacing them with a monthly subscription fee.

Maybe this isn't the worst idea.

One of the reasons we are swamped with so much hate speech and disinformation is that it is not only anonymous but free (as in free beer).

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Revillug @4.1    4 weeks ago

I think it's a great idea. Content should not be the hostage of business.

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
4.1.2  Revillug  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

I can't imagine that I would want to spend one thin dime on Twitter each month.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

Stephen King, who could afford 2000 dollars a month, says he wont give Musk a nickel more than the 5 dollars a month he pays now to be "blue checked" (means you are a "verified", usually celebrity, user. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Revillug @4.1.2    4 weeks ago

To me it might be worth it for a little free speech. I'd even pay a fee to be a member here.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    4 weeks ago

Bye, Bye Steve!

 
 
 
George
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4.1.6  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.5    4 weeks ago

It's funny that the attention seeking whores are threatening to leave. How long do you think that will last?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  George @4.1.6    4 weeks ago
It's funny that the attention seeking whores are threatening to leave. How long do you think that will last?

About as long as all the celebrities who pledged to move if Trump won in 2016.

In other words, it is all talk with no action being taken.

They can't leave the spotlight.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    4 weeks ago

Be sure to ask King which is dumber: charging $20 a month to keep a blue check or actually paying it?

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
4.1.9  Revillug  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.4    4 weeks ago
I'd even pay a fee to be a member here.

Like, if for twenty bucks a month the mods would stop ticketing your comments, or something like that?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  Revillug @4.1.9    4 weeks ago

This is the best format for a discussion anywhere.

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
4.1.11  Revillug  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.10    4 weeks ago

I think Reddit could learn a thing or two from this place.

The downvote/ban culture is out of control on Reddit.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
4.1.12  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    4 weeks ago
Stephen King, who could afford 2000 dollars a month, says he wont give Musk a nickel more than the 5 dollars a month he pays now to be "blue checked" (means you are a "verified", usually celebrity, user. 

OK.  

So what if everybody had to pay the $5 and be verified?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.12    4 weeks ago

I pay a bunch of 5 dollars , or 10 dollars a month fees to other streaming services, newspapers and web sites. Id probably try and draw the line at twitter. I basically only use it to find news stories and while other sources wouldnt be as convenient as twitter is, they are there. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
4.1.14  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.13    4 weeks ago
I basically only use it to find news stories

As I understand the statistics, you represent the typical Twitter user.  Apparently a small percentage of users do the vast majority of tweeting, and most others use it as sort of a real-time news feed, as you describe.

I can see the value of instituting a fee-style situation as an effective way to disrupt the presence of bots or bogus accounts.  I'm guessing (complete guess) that $20 is probably too steep, and would drive off enough users to make the platform less attractive to the power user tweeters, as well as advertisers.

But there is likely some price point you and others would be willing to pay for the convenience you mention of being able to very precisely curate your news sources.   I don't know what that number is, but I'm sure it can be found. 

I think it's an interesting situation.  Managed properly, you could imagine twitter growing its user base significantly.  Managed poorly, you could see it falling apart.  I guess only time will tell.

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
4.1.15  Revillug  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.14    4 weeks ago
Managed poorly, you could see it falling apart.

I think it was a mistake for one of Twitter's most notorious trolls to buy the place.

Half the people on this planet are now feeling revulsion for Twitter and it is spilling over onto how they feel about owning a Tesla.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
4.1.16  Jack_TX  replied to  Revillug @4.1.15    4 weeks ago
I think it was a mistake for one of Twitter's most notorious trolls to buy the place.

I think it was a mistake, but not because he's a troll.  I think the most vocal liberals view him as an apostate, and his promise to end their widely criticized censorship/moderation practices has some of them triggered.  We'll see how it all shakes out, but a broader base of ideas may turn out to be a good thing.

It was a mistake because he already has too much on his plate, and even Elon has only 24 hours in his days. 

Half the people on this planet are now feeling revulsion for Twitter and it is spilling over onto how they feel about owning a Tesla.

Meh.  They'll get over that.

What they won't get over is poor build quality.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
4.1.17  cjcold  replied to  Revillug @4.1.11    4 weeks ago

Butt we have a Perrie.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.18  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.16    4 weeks ago

On the first or second day he after he took ownership of twitter, Musk was personally on the site spreading a far right crackpot conspiracy theory. Maybe you dont care about that and enjoy trying to belittle those do, but Elon Musk is a menace to this society.  He is extremely wealthy,  and is an eccentric personality who dabbles in political conspiracies. This is not a recipe for anything good. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.19  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.18    4 weeks ago

Tell us the real story behind David DePape.

Make sure you note that he was an illegal alien.

And then there is this:

"According to the DA’s narrative, DePape had used a hammer to break into the Pelosis’ $6 million mansion through a back door and confronted Paul Pelosi, 82, in the bedroom, saying he was looking for his wife, Nancy.

When asked why, he replied: “Well, she’s number two in line for the presidency, right?”

When Mr. Pelosi agreed, DePape allegedly  responded “they are all corrupt”  and “we’ve got to take them all out”.




The best way to dispose of "conspiracy theories" is to publish the truth. In this case, the media has been very slow to publish the truth.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.20  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.19    4 weeks ago

What is it that you think you are saying about the incident? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.21  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.20    4 weeks ago

First off, I'm saying as I always said: This man is a lone lunatic.

Second, I'm saying that this man shoudn't have been in the country to begin with.
              He also broke in under the watch of people who weren't even paying attention.

Third, I'm pointing out that the truth is far stranger than the fiction that has you so upset.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1.22  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.18    4 weeks ago
ut Elon Musk is a menace to this society.  He is extremely wealthy,  and is an eccentric personality who dabbles in political conspiracies. This is not a recipe for anything good. 

Can you point me to your outrage over the last owners of Twitter censoring a factual news story and promoting disinformation about it being Russian propaganda?  Seems odd you'd get so incensed over a single deleted tweet while ignoring a full fledged disinformation campaigned designed to interfere in an election. 

That description also fits Jeff Bezos.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.23  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.22    4 weeks ago

One would think, if what you say is true, the way to stop misinformation on social media sites would be to not spread it, not double it. 

And if you cant see the insanity of the new owner of twitter spreading conspiracy lies the next day after he took over, you need help. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.24  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.21    4 weeks ago
First off, I'm saying as I always said: This man is a lone lunatic.Second, I'm saying that this man shoudn't have been in the country to begin with.              He also broke in under the watch of people who weren't even paying attention.Third, I'm pointing out that the truth is far stranger than the fiction that has you so upset.

What is this so called truth?

As for him being an "illegal alien", who gives a shit? 

He told the FBI he attacked Pelosi to teach the Democrats a lesson. We also know he had a website where he regurgitated every far right crazy conspiracy theory under the sun. 

That is where his head was at. 

You people are so obsessed with "Hunter Biden" and the so called "Russia hoax" (which was no such thing) that you cant see the two by four in your own eyes. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.25  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.24    4 weeks ago
What is this so called truth?

Oh you know John, just what I said. How is our msm doing on this? How many people know that he was here illegally?



He told the FBI he attacked Pelosi to teach the Democrats a lesson. We also know he had a website where he regurgitated every far right crazy conspiracy theory under the sun. 

There is the conspiracy theory the left is spreading. You notice that I don't think it should be censored. People should go look into what you just said.

For instance, from your own CNBC:

"The suspect  accused of violently attacking House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband early Friday appeared to have far-reaching and at times contradictory political positions , according to an early dive into his background.

While a motive for the  attack against 82-year-old Paul Pelosi  was unclear Friday evening, a picture of the suspect, identified by San Francisco police as 42-year-old David DePape, began to emerge.

Blog posts that are being investigated in connection with DePape describe someone with sprawling and contradictory views , multiple senior law enforcement officials familiar with the case told NBC News. The posts take aspects of liberal anti-establishment ideas to more recent posts that espouse positions typically associated with far-right extremism, the sources said."




That is where his head was at.

A lone lunatic, who shouldn't have been in this country!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1.26  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.23    4 weeks ago

He deleted the tweet when further information became available.

He didn't spend weeks censoring  people from tweeting information that contradicted it and he didn't claim the actual facts of the story were Russian disinformation.

Advantage: Musk.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.27  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.26    4 weeks ago

You mean it's already gone?  And I never even got to see it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.28  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.26    4 weeks ago
He didn't spend weeks censoring  people from tweeting information that contradicted it and he didn't claim the actual facts of the story were Russian disinformation. Advantage: Musk.

Wait, are you telling us that the wealthiest person on earth was not capable, through his own thought processes, of deciding it was ill advised to tweet out ridiculous conspiracy theories until he got "more information" ? ROFL. 

Do you ever listen to your own words? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.29  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.25    4 weeks ago
Oh you know John, just what I said. How is our msm doing on this? How many people know that he was here illegally?

He's from Canada for christs sake, you know, a white guy.

Your ilk wants to make it sound like he is from El Salvador. 

Very dishonest. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.30  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.29    4 weeks ago
He's from Canada for christs sake, you know, a white guy.

What difference does that make?  He shouldn't have been here!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
4.1.31  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.28    4 weeks ago
Wait, are you telling us that the wealthiest person on earth was not capable, through his own thought processes, of deciding it was ill advised to tweet out ridiculous conspiracy theories until he got "more information" ? ROFL. 

I know this is a foreign term to you but it's called INTEGRITY John.  Something sorely lacking from the liberal side of the house.  Information come out that showed he was incorrect, and he used his integrity and removed the misinformation.  He didn't run with it like we see the liberals / left do on a daily basis.  It's an admission of a mistake.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1.32  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.28    4 weeks ago
telling us that the wealthiest person on earth was not capable, through his own thought processes, of deciding it was ill advised to tweet out ridiculous conspiracy theories until he got "more information"

Twitter did it. News organizations do it all the time.  People  both rich and poor put out tweets that they delete. 

Why is this one single deleted  tweet  worth all the fuss? The literal same entire company wielded all of its power and influence to spread disinformation and censor facts for weeks on end and you had no problem with that. No one was censored. People all across the world were to correct him and provide more accurate information and did so.  The system worked. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.33  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.31    4 weeks ago
Information come out that showed he was incorrect, and he used his integrity and removed the misinformation. 

Integrity would be not spreading ridiculous conspiracies in the first place, not sending it out to millions of your followers and then taking it back later. 

is Elon Musk an idiot?  Why is he spreading conspiracy theories? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
4.1.34  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.33    4 weeks ago

I guess you missed the part where information come out that showed he was incorrect, and he used his integrity and removed the misinformation

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.35  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.34    4 weeks ago

Meanwhile, the Biden White House tweeted about the increase in SS checks and claimed credit for that increase.

Even though they declined to tell the whole truth--that SS increases are tied to inflation and adjusted yearly.

Sounds like the Biden WH is trying to take credit for 40 year highs in inflation!

Way to go Joe--you did that!

Are the WH tweeters idiots?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
4.1.36  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.35    4 weeks ago

It is laughable that they are trying to take credit for something NIXON did back in 1972 without realizing how the whole system works. 

Let them take credit for the inflation.  That would be the first honest thing they've done.  But in his most recent "open mouth out comes stupid" act, he said that inflation was due to the war in Iraq.  

The best person out there campaigning for Republicans is Biden.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.37  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.36    4 weeks ago

For Joe Biden and his handlers, "It's the economy, stupid" seems to be a myth.

Voters know better.

Democrats will find that out next week, even if they continue to deny it.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
4.1.38  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.18    4 weeks ago
On the first or second day he after he took ownership of twitter, Musk was personally on the site spreading a far right crackpot conspiracy theory. Maybe you dont care about that and enjoy trying to belittle those do,

No.  I don't care about that.  It's Twitter. 

And while I'm not doing it here, I don't have any reservations about belittling people who say we should shut down or impede speech simply because they don't like it.

but Elon Musk is a menace to this society.

C'mon now.  That's more than a little crazy.  

Elon is what the English would call a "wind-up artist".  He likes saying or tweeting things and laughing while uptight people lose their minds over it.  Don't fall for that.

  He is extremely wealthy,  and is an eccentric personality who dabbles in political conspiracies. This is not a recipe for anything good. 

Most extremely wealthy people are eccentric personalities.  In most cases, their wealth is the result of it.  

Musk is doing more to change our world for the better than any other person alive today.  Non-combustion cars are a reality and will be the norm in just 15 years or so...all because of him.  The same is true for residential solar power.

Yeah, he's a bit weird.  Whatever.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.39  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.34    4 weeks ago
You lose platform advertisers slowly, then all at once.
“L’Oréal has become the latest big company to suspend advertising spending on Twitter, as major brands and marketing groups grow nervous that inappropriate content will spread on the platform under Elon Musk’s ownership.”  ft.com/content/17281b…
 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1.40  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.39    4 weeks ago

That's how fascist parties operate, hand in glove with large corporations. Democrats view Twitter as vital to their propaganda program, so they lean on corporations to enforce their desire.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.41  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.38    4 weeks ago
Musk is doing more to change our world for the better than any other person alive today.  Non-combustion cars are a reality and will be the norm in just 15 years or so...all because of him.  The same is true for residential solar power.

Really? Elon Musk is the only person on earth who was going to develop an electric car?

Musk is doing more to change our world for the better than any other person alive today.

That is an incredibly dubious assertion.  If Twitter goes badly south he will have done a great deal to put this country on a path to destruction. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
4.1.42  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.41    4 weeks ago

What is your review of Musk products.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.43  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.42    4 weeks ago

He sucks. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
4.1.44  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.41    4 weeks ago
Really? Elon Musk is the only person on earth who was going to develop an electric car?

We had already developed the electric car.  Elon Musk is the person who proved it could be commercially viable.  

If Twitter goes badly south he will have done a great deal to put this country on a path to destruction. 

Do you understand the degree of overreaction in that statement? 

So your assertion is... that this thing that more than 3/4 of Americans do not even use ... is somehow now pivotal to the survival of the strongest nation on Earth.  

John...that's crazy.  Seriously bud.  C'mon now.

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
4.1.45  George  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.42    4 weeks ago

If it wasn’t for Musk, Biden would still be begging Putin for rides into space.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.46  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.44    4 weeks ago

Jack your credibility in talking about politics is zero. Zip.

For YEARS you have been telling us that Trump was a non entity that no one paid any attention to. I think you were even saying it while he was president. For sure you have said, many times, that Trump was no longer a factor, in anything. If the Republicans win control of Congress you will be about to find out what a non factor Trump will be going forward. lol.  He will take credit for ALL of it. He will believe , and claim, that he is still the king. 

You know people know Trump will be the 2024 nominee (if he's not in prison) ?  Because he wont take no for an answer. He wont take no for an answer. Who among the Republicans is going to tell him no anyway? 

I have been far far more right about Trump and the politics of this country than you have been. 

You are more interested in trying to lecture people than you are in understanding what is going on. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
4.1.47  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.46    4 weeks ago

It must be so inconvenient for you when people point out the sky isn't actually falling.

OK, so the whole "Elon is a menace to society" nonsense is really all about the prospect of Trump getting his Twitter account back.  Because the world will come to an end if Lord VoldeTrump is able to Tweet mean things....  

For fuck's sake.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
4.1.48  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.39    4 weeks ago

You could have just said "Yes, I missed the part where information come out that showed he was incorrect, and he used his integrity and removed the misinformation."  

But instead you blather on about something unrelated.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
5  Sean Treacy    4 weeks ago

The freaked out left isn't worried that Musk will ban them.  They are worried about losing the power to muzzle those who disagree with them. 

Authoritarians lover power more than anything else. 

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
5.1  Revillug  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    4 weeks ago
hey are worried about losing the power to muzzle those who disagree with them. 

Or simply spread harmful lies.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
5.2  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    4 weeks ago

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
5.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  cjcold @5.2    4 weeks ago

[Deleted]

Relax and learn to enjoy diversity. 

 
 
 
Blessed Be The Fruit
Freshman Silent
6  Blessed Be The Fruit     4 weeks ago

I am actually enjoying twitter, it's more fun with all the extremists out of twitter jail. It was becoming a lefty extremist vomitorium.  At least now i can enjoy watching them engage with one another.

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
6.1  Revillug  replied to  Blessed Be The Fruit @6    4 weeks ago
twitter jail

Is that where you've been?

 
 
 
Blessed Be The Fruit
Freshman Silent
6.1.1  Blessed Be The Fruit   replied to  Revillug @6.1    4 weeks ago

I've been slinging dank memes there. It's absolute internet gold watching famous people engage with real people on a variety of topics. 

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
6.1.2  Revillug  replied to  Blessed Be The Fruit @6.1.1    4 weeks ago
watching famous people engage with real people on a variety of topics

Or watching regular people who think famous people are actually paying attention to them.

The other day I thought Trump liked one of my Tweets.

Then I realized he's not even on Twitter.

 
 
 
Blessed Be The Fruit
Freshman Silent
6.1.3  Blessed Be The Fruit   replied to  Revillug @6.1.2    4 weeks ago

I have a blue check mark account. I will probably pay for it because well I like my elitist status.

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
6.1.4  Revillug  replied to  Blessed Be The Fruit @6.1.3    4 weeks ago

Under Musk's leadership the Blue Check Marks will make it easier to identify the Russian trolls.

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Guide
6.1.5  pat wilson  replied to  Blessed Be The Fruit @6.1.1    4 weeks ago
I've been slinging dank memes there.

Like you used to do here ?

 
 
 
Blessed Be The Fruit
Freshman Silent
6.1.6  Blessed Be The Fruit   replied to  pat wilson @6.1.5    4 weeks ago

Praise be, I think you might be confused. The left can meme.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.1.7  Ender  replied to  Blessed Be The Fruit @6.1.3    4 weeks ago

So you have a blue check mark, are a verified user yet incognito here?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Principal
6.1.10  MrFrost  replied to  Blessed Be The Fruit @6.1.3    4 weeks ago
I have a blue check mark account.

Link?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Blessed Be The Fruit @6    4 weeks ago
all the extremists out of twitter jail.

You mean like Miranda Devine?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6.3  cjcold  replied to  Blessed Be The Fruit @6    4 weeks ago
twitter, it's more fun

So far right-wing fascism is your idea of fun?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Sophomore Guide
7  Right Down the Center    4 weeks ago

Nothing more infuriating for a liberal than a guy with enough FU money that he can just laugh off the liberal feeble attempts to cancel him.  If he doesn't let Donald back on Twitter it is only because he doesn't want the competition trolling the snowflakes.  Personally I would like to see a contest on who could cause more liberal heads to explode with their tweets.  I am going to stock up on popcorn, this is gonna be fun.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
7.1  Ender  replied to  Right Down the Center @7    4 weeks ago

Liberals are bad mmmkay....

All I heard from that.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Sophomore Guide
7.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ender @7.1    4 weeks ago

Not bad, just whiney when they don't get their way.  Or when they do get their way.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
7.1.2  Ender  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.1    4 weeks ago

Just like most people on the planet.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Sophomore Guide
7.1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ender @7.1.2    4 weeks ago

I agree but many people outgrow it in their teens.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
7.1.4  Ender  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.3    4 weeks ago

Till they get online.  Haha

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.1.5  cjcold  replied to  Ender @7.1    4 weeks ago

Yep. liberals follow the ideals written on the base of the Statue of Liberty.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  cjcold @7.1.5    4 weeks ago

Lol

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @7.1.5    4 weeks ago
Yep. liberals follow the ideals written on the base of the Statue of Liberty.

Unfortunately, many of those same liberals believe a poem is somehow national policy.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
7.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.7    4 weeks ago

256 Period

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.7    4 weeks ago

It was a poem written when America needed immigrants. Today it's the other way around.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
7.1.10  Jack_TX  replied to  cjcold @7.1.5    4 weeks ago
Yep. liberals follow the ideals written on the base of the Statue of Liberty.

I didn't realize the Statue of Liberty said anything about raising my taxes.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
7.1.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @7.1.5    4 weeks ago
liberals follow the ideals written on the base of the Statue of Liberty.

Ideals?

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

I interpret it more as welcome to the new world for those sailing by than a list of ideals.  A welcome as we know, to a new world created on the backs of genocide, slavery, ethnic prejudice, sexism and income inequality. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Principal
7.2  MrFrost  replied to  Right Down the Center @7    4 weeks ago
If he doesn't let Donald back on Twitter it is only because he doesn't want the competition trolling the snowflakes.

Trump wouldn't last 5 minutes on Musk's version of twitter. He would be trolled by millions of people and he would have one threat after another, which the free speech preachers seem to totally fine with. Trump would be crying, "people are so mean to me!!!!!! Whaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!". 

Go threaten a cop with violence, let us know how free speech is when you get out of jail. 

Free speech is an illusion. It sound good to cry about it but at the end of the day, it's all bullshit and free speech typically only works for the people in charge. 

I am just shy of 20,000 followers on Twitter and I could afford the blue checkmark @20/month, but I wouldn't, simply not worth it. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Sophomore Guide
7.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  MrFrost @7.2    4 weeks ago
He would be trolled by millions of people and he would have one threat after another, which the free speech preachers seem to totally fine with.
Go threaten a cop with violence, let us know how free speech is when you get out of jail. 

Threats are not covered under the first amendment and anyone wanting free speech is well aware of it.  I don't think many of your followers actually care if you have a blue check or not but I understand it is not 20 dollars,  Seems you are spreading misinformation with your post.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Participates
8  Sunshine    4 weeks ago

512

 
 
 
freepress
Freshman Silent
9  freepress    4 weeks ago

It is truly evident that he has used other people and inherited wealth to get where he is. The amount of ignorance about the product he bought is staggering. He can't grasp what regular people actually want and is just throwing out a lot of muddy ideas hoping one sticks. He would be better off just hiring a new CEO and come up with a separate add-on link to advertising where customers might actually use it like a yellow pages to find businesses they need and get sales, saving and coupons. Advertisers would pay and jump on that bandwagon which would not impede the way existing users have their accounts. Facebook would be wise to do the same thing. Just using the old hat of billing dollars to users who already get the service free is going to collapse the system, not grow it. People hate ads unless they need to look up a company or want to find sales and discounts. Do something new. Give the people a reason to want to use advertising instead of injecting it into their personal media feed.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
10  Ender    4 weeks ago

I read earlier now some of the right wing is turning on Musk for not giving in to their demands.

 
 
 
independent Liberal
Freshman Quiet
11  independent Liberal    4 weeks ago

I understood what Mr. Musk was saying in several of the tweets. The Blue Check verification has historically controlled the conversation on twitter. He is offering to verify anyone, and frankly some of the badged elite on Twitter have very little accomplishments. The man did not become wealthy by being stupid, paid for verification will bring in revenue, it will allow him to eliminate fake accounts, troll accounts and bot accounts by verifying identity of those consuming his product. A verified user is held to a much higher standard and is often less likely to contribute nonsense on the platform.

In the past he has discussed making all users use their real identity. I think it's brilliant really as we will all be held accountable for our words. Yes you are free to say them but you may not like the reactions.  It will bring integrity to a site that has become a cesspool of bots, spam accounts and troll accounts.

The problem isn't really with Elon Musk it's with society today. In America specifically you are put in one of two categorical boxes. A man who is not a conservative and is undoubtedly a progressive mind is boxed by narrow minded people who have fallen victim to this idiocy. Does it really take one tweet for you to decide someone has no value? He didn't tweet what you wanted to hear or maybe someone you don't like agreed with the tweet?  Are we that easily persuaded? The guy has contributed more to reducing climate change than most. He put his money where his passion was but now I have to hate him because he once criticized something the hive did?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.1  Ender  replied to  independent Liberal @11    4 weeks ago

What it will do is give anyone the ability to be verified just because they pay....

How will that stop spam accounts when they pay to be there?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
11.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ender @11.1    4 weeks ago

Have you looked at the "application" for getting the blue check? Fairly intense.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.1.2  Ender  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.1    4 weeks ago

Yet now anyone will be able to get one...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.1    4 weeks ago

Why the hell would anyone waste their time and money on Twitter?  Especially now?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
11.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ender @11.1.2    4 weeks ago

Rather intense. I for one don't have the patience nor desire to give some of the information they want. Not that important as far as I am concerned. Using my real name is enough.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
11.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.3    4 weeks ago

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independent Liberal
Freshman Quiet
11.1.6  independent Liberal  replied to  Ender @11.1.2    4 weeks ago

Why would that be an issue. If the platform intends to eliminate special privilege and allow all users to share the same benefits, it sounds fair to me.

I take no issue with making the voice of a citizen who works as a plumber and a journalist who works for the NYT play on the same field. If the platform intends to be a free speech townhall, it naturally seems like the right course of action. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.5    4 weeks ago

removed for context

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.1.8  Ender  replied to  independent Liberal @11.1.6    4 weeks ago

The right course of action....

Is to pay for the service?

You really think the average Joe is going to pay to be there?

It will be the people that want to shove a certain ideology.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
11.1.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.7    4 weeks ago

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Ender
Professor Principal
11.1.10  Ender  replied to  independent Liberal @11.1.6    4 weeks ago

By the way, if one wants an even playing field, wouldn't the better option be to not have blue checks at all?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.9    4 weeks ago

Why would I want that when I don't?

Stop trolling.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.9    4 weeks ago

Go ahead and provide what you don't have.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
11.1.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.12    4 weeks ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.13    4 weeks ago

So you have nothing.  Thanks for proving my point.  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
11.1.15  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @11.1    4 weeks ago
What it will do is give anyone the ability to be verified just because they pay.... How will that stop spam accounts when they pay to be there?

Easy.  The cost of 40 bogus accounts is about to go from $0 to $4k/yr.

 
 
 
independent Liberal
Freshman Quiet
11.1.16  independent Liberal  replied to  Ender @11.1.8    4 weeks ago

People can't help but get on social media and say things they would never say to another human in public. Of course they will pay, otherwise they will realize how lonely they really are.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
11.1.17  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.14    4 weeks ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.2  Tessylo  replied to  independent Liberal @11    4 weeks ago

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