Defend This
Hey Deleted for TOS [ph], defend this...
"Portland is burning to the ground!"
"All you have to do is look at the television, turn on your television, read your newspapers, it's burning to the ground!"
"The governor, the mayor, the politicians are petrified for their lives."
"That judge ought to be ashamed of himself."
(The judge is a she, and Trump appointed her)
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This is insanity in plain sight.
Imagine if any other president had said anything even remotely as insane as that.
And still you fucktards support him.
WTF is wrong with you?
The lawless antifa and other punks have been allowed to take over the city, with the apparent consent of the city mothers and fathers.
Makes it hard for the peaceful and normal citizens to live and work there. That's coming to an end thanks to Trump's legal use of his presidential powers.
Trumps is a blustering blowhard who exaggerates and uses unorthodox methods of expressing himself. We, mature and normal adults, have learned not to take his words seriously.
Meanwhile, the Dems have very little chance at gaining any advantage at the midterms, we've been telling you why, but you're not listening
Translation: You have no problem with lies used to justify tyranny in America.
Noted.
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
That's putting it mildly.
Right.... Just claiming you "don't take him seriously" but still supporting him, voting for him and defending him proves that "We" to be full of shit.
What does that have to do with Trump putting troops on the ground to police civilians against the Governor of the States wishes? They have zero to do with each other. Trump is overstepping his bounds as President, that's what this is about, not about what seats might change hands in the midterms.
I listen. And then tell the worthless Christo-fascist pieces of shit to go fuck themselves. I don't care if leaning right and giving in to rightwing conservatives garbage ideology would get Democrats more votes, we've compromised with religious conservatives more than enough and all they've brought to the table was an attempted insurrection and electing a 34 times convicted felon, profuse liar and known sexual predator to the highest office in the land.
You are spouting fantasy. Parroting Trump's bullshit.
Why? What value is it to parrot Trump's lies and to support this idiot as he continues to inflict damage on our nation?
Everything with Trump is a show ... a photo-op; designed to stroke his ego at the expense of everyone else.
And yet they claim to not take him seriously. They love to use Trumps lies to attack the left, then when confronted with the fact that Trump was obviously lying, they revert to "We, mature and normal adults, have learned not to take his words seriously.".
I really am out of words to describe the insanity at play here. Do Trump supporters really care more about having an asshole railing on the Ds and libs (or whatever) than they do for the health of the nation and the people within it?
It seems that is the case, and is despicable.
That was a rhetorical question, right? I mean, even a casual observer of politics in America over the last decade would have to say "Yes!" to that question. It's not even close to a split decision, it's overwhelmingly "Yes!". Trump supporters want to own the libs, that's it. They don't fucking care about anything else as they have made abundantly clear. Trump "owns" the libs, aka makes them furious and wanting to rip their hair out, just like a parent trying to deal with a petulant child they're not allowed to just bend over their knee and spank the living fuck out of like they were used to growing up, but now they have to coddle and baby this bigot so they don't get accused of being to mean to the man baby in the oval office. And nothing could make the rightwing conservative sorry excuses for human beings happier than Democrats and liberals being upset and frustrated over the moron in the oval office, even if that moron is making things worse for the entire nation. These are not mentally healthy people who support Trump. They are angry, tired of hiding their deep-seated racism and xenophobia, tired of having to live under rules that don't give them an advantage and help everyone instead of being focused on helping white conservative Christians like the America of old was so focused on.
What evidence is there for this?
How so?
The Guard was sent in because ICE facilities were under assault, especially at night. It is being done, via antifa or whoever, to prevent federal authorities from arresting those who have warrants out for their deportation. If there is one lesson, we should have learned from the Civil War, it is that states cannot nullify federal law.
Umm...
"Portland is burning to the ground!"
"All you have to do is look at the television, turn on your television, read your newspapers, it's burning to the ground!"
Address that insanity please. Otherwise get the fuck out.
I deal in facts , not quotes:
Inside the Antifa siege on 'war zone' Portland and the resistance to the National Guard cleaning it up
Quotes are about as factual as it gets when they are captured on camera.
Your beloved, anti-American tyrant is fucking insane.
Address what he said.
A peaceful protest limited to one block is hardly burning down the city. Get Real!
Multiple people have been arrested following a violent riot outside an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility in Portland, Oregon , that involved knife-throwing and explosives.
A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson told Fox News Digital that one of the rioters had tried to fire a ‘Roman Candle’ firework at law enforcement.
The same person allegedly threatened officers with a large knife by swinging it and then throwing it at them, the spokesperson said.
No law enforcement officers were seriously injured during the attack, according to officials.
While the suspects' identities have not yet been released, DHS confirmed there have been three arrests.
"Unfortunately, these violent attacks are becoming more and more common," the spokesperson said. "Our ICE law enforcement is now facing a 500% increase in assaults while carrying out enforcement operations. "
Multiple arrests after violent riot at Portland ICE facility with weapons | Fox News
Yay.
One more time... Is Portland burning to the ground?
The tyrant says it is. That's the topic.
Trump uses almost nothing as an excuse to do what he pleases.
It is disgusting watching people believe this scoundrel and defend his corrupt actions. Trump does not care about his supporters. His supporters are simply tools to him. Trump is abusing the presidency for self-aggrandizement and, basically, for his own amusement.
How is it possible that you do not see this contrived show taking place before your eyes?? Portland does not want and does not need Trump to unleash forces and stir up trouble so that he can claim to be a hero. Trump is a psychopath; he is a mentally sick individual who is wholly unfit for office and continues to inflict damage on our nation.
And Trump supporters keep cheering him on ... oblivious to what is actually taking place.
I never knew just how deep partisan blindness can go. This insane support of Trump is beyond pathetic.
Deploying the National Guard is an extreme measure. Especially when it is against the wishes of the governor.
Trump is putting on a show, and Trump supporters keep blindly defending every sick move he makes.
Irresponsible, irrational, and unpatriotic!
funny, I thought the lesson was that wealthy white supremacists trying to use religion as justification for end-running the constitution, get their dumb ass supporters brains blown out of their fucking skulls and they rot where they drop ...
Which facilities? Under assault, how?
So… Three people were arrested, allegedly. No identification and no information on charges.
One person allegedly had items that could be used to hurt people, but didn’t actually hurt anyone.
This is the “violence” that requires military action?
Turn on the news:
"Multiple people have been arrested following a violent riot outside an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility in Portland, Oregon , that involved knife-throwing and explosives.
A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson told Fox News Digital that one of the rioters had tried to fire a ‘Roman Candle’ firework at law enforcement.
The same person allegedly threatened officers with a large knife by swinging it and then throwing it at them, the spokesperson said.
No law enforcement officers were seriously injured during the attack, according to officials.
While the suspects' identities have not yet been released, DHS confirmed there have been three arrests.
"Unfortunately, these violent attacks are becoming more and more common," the spokesperson said. "Our ICE law enforcement is now facing a 500% increase in assaults while carrying out enforcement operations.
"Secretary [Kristi] Noem ’s message to the rioters is clear: You will not stop us or slow us down. ICE and our federal law enforcement partners will continue to enforce the law. And if you lay a hand on a law enforcement officer, you will be fully prosecuted by the law."
Fox News Digital previously reported that following a Portland "No Kings" protest on June 14, a mob had launched fireworks, smoke grenades and threw rocks at federal law enforcement .
The rioters broke glass and breached the ICE facility, leaving four officers injured.
Officials said the building was later secured."
Multiple arrests after violent riot at Portland ICE facility with weapons | Fox News
I followed the link you supplied. My comment reflects that.
From a story released this morning at 5AM in the Christian Science Monitor :
I think that you and the Federal Government are overreacting. But that is the MO.
oxymoron.
"They're eating the cats. They're eating the dogs."
These untruths and more can be had for the low, low price of your constitutional government. Don't wait! Act now!
As Commander in Chief and the sole possessor of the American nuclear codes, this moron has the power to destroy most of the civilized world in about 30 minutes flat – an almost unimaginable responsibility.
If you voted for him... you know, to "stick it to the Libs," are you proud of yourself?
I did not, and my reasons for not doing so are confirmed on regular basis.
Yup. Over and over again.
Unfortunately, the Republican Party in Congress has decided to just ignore it, and to even cheer it on.
Everyone needs to remember that in 2026. Republican politicians at all levels are simply unfit to govern.
We really, really need a new party to replace them.
Good luck with that.
Good luck for all of us you mean.
Says the guy whose party has a 19 percent approval rate.
Looks like your party being replaced is a far more likely scenario....probably by socialists and marxists.
Don't blame me. I didn't vote for him. In fact I couldn't vote for him.
If Portland is burning to the ground it's because he lit the match.
I saw protestors pushing back against the NG this morning and his lackeys are saying that Portland is a war zone.
Who fired the first shot? It certainly wasn't the people of Portland
He's likely fishing for a reaction that he can declare a "rebellion" in order to use the Insurrection Act. Personally, I think all of this "deploy the military in blue cities" shit is part of a plan to disrupt the midterm elections, and keep Congress in the hands of the Rs.
No, it was the punks and pukeface thugs of Portland
Do you live in Portland?
None of these rightwing Monday morning quarterbacks live in Portland. They love to vomit up rightwing media talking points though. Perhaps they're trying to prove how good they are at regurgitating talking points. Maybe they get awards for how much shit they can shovel in an hour or something, because they certainly seem to enjoy shoveling shit.
Why do you continue to believe Trump's claims? It should be obvious by now that he is a pathological liar. He lies because he has discovered (long ago) that this is how one can get around the rules. Lying is easy ... no need to be constrained by the truth, just make up whatever reality you want.
Trump cheats. That is his modus operandi. He cheats while others play by the rules and thus gains an advantage.
Do not believe anything this scoundrel says. Go to alternate sources for facts.
I drove through Portland yesterday....it's not burning.
Lol. Whining about metaphors.
meanwhile, in the real world, commercial vacancy in Portland hits record highs and the mayor is talking about having to build tunnels to parking garages so workers don’t have to step in the street and deal with third world lawlessness.
But keep policing language rather than reality. It’s working wonders.
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We have to make sure we win the 2026 mid terms , which means we are going to have to make sure Trump doesnt steal them. Many individual MAGAs are a lost cause and some of us have to stop believing they can be reasoned with. There is way too much apathy in this country and the hour is getting late.
And in reality
lol. If only progressives could not attack federal agents doing their job, federal property, non antii fa aligned reporters, but it’s just too tempting a target I guess.
its actually really easy to not have the national guard called up. Don’t attack the federal government.
Trump belongs in prison. The sad part is people like you know that.
And are beyond hope. IMO, people like Sean want nothing less than a ridiculous "culture war" that ends the Republic. There's really no reason to be civil with them. I'm done with giving them the benefit of the doubt.
The problem is there has to be a crime for that to happen. For the past decade or so, there has been nothing.
A person would need to have an IQ of about 30 to believe that.
For fuck's sake, you saw him attempt a coup.
Will you please stop your clownish trolling ?
is that why the left can't figure it out?
When did he attempt that?
Well, you are right. Trump and to a large extent his movement, are not defensible. Everyone with a brain in this country knows that, and yet here we are. I blame the media which has chosen profit and status over the future of the nation. An actual journalist would have some point asked Trump at one of his lunatic press gaggles "why do you lie every day?".
If that's what you want to call pointing out fact then so be it.
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Didn't the last election teach you anything?
Yes, that many Americans are even more stupid than they were in 2016, and that's saying something.
Yes... how we vote for Presidents might be broken if one can win with only 32% of the total US population voting for them.
Lol, if only regressive reactionary forces were not looking for any excuse to gang up on people protesting the methods used to intentionally harass and intimidate the populace at large there would be no need for those regressive reactionary forces in the first place.
When was the last time a president was elected with over 50 % if the total US population voting for them?
More evidence the current system sucks?
Just evidence that many of the US population are apathetic when it comes to voting, especially during the midterms. I guess screaming "end of democracy" from the rooftops hasn't changed that because they don't believe it. Maybe we should force people to vote?
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Children and non-citizens are not allowed to vote.
Fucking christ on a cracker... what's your point? Trump didn't even get a plurality of votes, let alone some fever dream mandate that tingles you leg.
Yes, the system is, as I've said, broken.
You'll have to point out where I've ever said that, or withdraw the strawman.
Maybe we should find ways to encourage voting?
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I have looked and looked and looked and looked back through time and I can't find that coup the left is so infatuated about.
34 felonies.... In case you forgot.
You do know that attempted bank robbery is as serious a criminal offense as a successful bank robbery, right? January 6th was an attempted coup where Trumps followers attempted to stop the constitutional transition of power and install their dear Leader as President.
Of course, now that they did finally get him back in office, he is dismantling the protection of our Democracy so that his rightwing Christo fascists supporters can attempt to rule our nation like an authoritarian State in perpetuity. It's truly disgusting to watch such vile rightwing scum rape our nation forcing their wretched conservative ideology down everyone's throats, sending their armed militias and gestapo agents into cities that not only do not need them but do not want them as made clear by the States governors and people.
Oh, you mean the one MISDEMEANOR past it's statute of limitations inflated into "felonies"? So, yeah, there has been nothing.
Neither have I. It must be in the same realm as all the fascist shit he supposedly has carried out.
I do think it's funny watching the double standards in play. How many currently "up in arms" about what Trump says (granted, he's a fucking blowhard and I would love if he toned things down but that's just not who he is) but were completely unconvinced when Biden was hyperbolic. Examples include (from Google AI)
But yeah, let's all get upset when Trump says that Portland is burning to the ground. Cuz we've NEVER SEEN hyperbole from a politician before...
They LOVE to ignore every other politician amidst their hissy fits about the current POTUS.
Did Biden base military decisions on his hyperbole?
Biden did not engage in hyperbole and then act on it.
How is it that you do not recognize the extraordinary and unnecessary actions of Trump sending the National Guard to cities that not only have not asked for the deployment but are actively against it (lawsuits even)?
I don't want to play whataboutism. My post was only on how the left is in an uproar over Trump's hyperbolic speaking and not about actions.
Lol. Let's see, he called a perfectly reasonable voting law "Jim Crow 2.0", filed a silly lawsuit to stop it and then encouraged corporations to wage economic war against a state.
Then why are you?
Then you must be aghast at Trump claiming that Portland is burning and using that to justify sending in troops against the wishes of the governor and mayor.
And the facts behind your spin is that the Biden DoJ filed a lawsuit to challenge Georgia changing its election rules to make mail-in ballots more difficult (among other things). Biden viewed this as disproportionately dissuading black voters.
Biden acted within our system.
Trump, in contrast, has invented a chaotic situation (incredible level of lying) as an excuse to send in troops into a US city where no such action is needed ... not even close. His actions are currently being contested as unconstitutional.
And yet somehow the cities with the most crime, which according to the FBI is Memphis, St.Louis, Jackson (MS), and Birmingham (AL), don't have the National Guard marching in. Hummmm... I wonder why.... Not.
Hmmm…
I'm sorry I missed that but I would like to point out to you that no one is happy about that in Memphis. Also, he has plans to send the National Guard to Chicago and potentially other cities like New York , Baltimore , San Francisco , and Oakland, California .
Meanwhile, New York, San Fran, or Oakland don't chart in the top 10 for violent cities.
Some residents welcome federal crackdown in Memphis as operation gets underway : NPR
NPR did find 2 to interview ... some is such a big number,
Announced three weeks ago. They’re still not there.
Simple math, 2 is more than no one.
There is always someone who is happy for something. Residents are split.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6380642701112
Since the usual trolls only want to troll and not address anything of substance, let's restate the topic for them.
Trump actually said this:
"Portland is burning to the ground!"
"All you have to do is look at the television, turn on your television, read your newspapers, it's burning to the ground!"
Defend that!
Criminal elements have been destroying Portland for some time now. Doesn't that bother you?
LOL! Destroying Portland?
Get a fucking grip man.
There is worse crime going on in Memphis, St. Louis, Jackson (MS), and Birmingham (AL).
The ICE and Border Patrol were in Cicero Illinois, a mostly hispanic near suburb of Chicago, today, harrassing and arresting people because they "look" like there is a chance they could be undocumented. Pure racial profiling.
You have proof of this?
Seeing people I know to be intelligent, spreading politically motivated bullshit, bothers me.
Ever been to Portland? at all? recently?
No witty retort?
Priceless!
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It's pointed at un-American Trump supporters, as it should be, and at this point they deserve neither respect nor civility.
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Cry me a river. You really don't know how far across the Rubicon we are, do you?
I am a Trump supporter and I served 20 years in the Navy.
Am I an unAmerican fuck tard?
If this is true and you still support how ICE and the National Guard troops are used, then...
I question your loyalty to the oath you once swore to uphold.
As ex-Army & ex-Coast Guard I'd defy the unlawful orders to deploy.
I would, too, but I bet that would earn us the title of unAmerican fucktard, but not from the author of this seed
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Killing drug runners is murder??? LOL![✘]
Who is the "traitorous tyrant" you are crying about?
Summary, extrajudicial killing of civilians is a war crime precisely because it is murder.
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So why isn't obama in jail? simply because he is a person of color so you expect less from him?
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LOL. Huh?
What's really hilarious is that rightwing conservatives lost their fucking minds when Obama used a drone to take out a known terrorist which also killed his son who was an American citizen but known terrorist sympathizer, but with Trump just taking out boats they claim are drug runner boats not knowing who or even how many humans or their affiliation with any drugs are on board can be just executed without even an attempt to stop the boat and make arrests. Nope, just summary execution Duterte style and rightwing conservatives couldn't be happier.
Don't get me wrong, I have no love for anyone in the drug trade. However, I do believe in the rule of law and that extrajudicial killings are the mark of an authoritarian tyrant, not that of people whose allegiance is to a constitutional Republic. Even with known terrorists hiding in places where sending in troops and putting American soldiers lives at risk, drones or bomb attacks should be a last resort, not a first hair trigger response to any offense.
Obama ordered the execution of Americans without due process, not NON-Citizens but actual [Americans][✘]
Nope.
We can debate decades after whether the legal advice Obama received that allowed him to add a known terrorist to the terrorist 'kill list' was sound or not, but at the time he received legal assurance that it was allowed and he was trying to protect American soldiers on the ground in those regions. Soldiers who had been attacked and killed by terrorists that were directed and inspired by Awlaki. So, Obama was making a very hard decision of adding an American terrorist to the terrorist kill list because he knew he had to protect American soldiers' lives, not that any rightwing conservative piece of shit latching on to this story to try and attack the black President they hate so much would care.
And of course, back to Trumps extrajudicial killings, he's not protecting any soldier's lives. One can argue that he's protecting Americans from harming themselves with illicit drugs which was the excuse Duterte gave as he went around shooting those he claimed were drug dealers in the Philippines, but that just makes it worse frankly as he's also saying that Americans apparently shouldn't be allowed to make those decisions for themselves.
Ordered? Hmm. I'm only aware of one that might qualify as "ordered", and he was a traitor who became a leader in Al Qaeda when we were actively engaged in military operations against them.
Please tell me you don't think that's comparable. He was on the CIA kill list for crying out loud.
So the old white guys at the CIA can kill Americans without due process. good to know, so it's just needs to be the old white guys at the CIA doing the killing and you will be fine with it.
Drugs have killed far more people than died on 911, but since it appears you don't want the supply interrupted you are now upset about it?
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are they trying to tell us that they didn't care if US troops were murdered by Al-Quaida in Iraq and Afghanistan?
You are absolutely 100% WRONG!
If you are going lie, do it about something that isn't easy to disprove.
Obama’s death debate: how President personally approves the drone strikes
since when do US laws apply outside america, and when did maga suddenly become so concerned about due process?
So you are okay if trump starts killing democrats and any liberal in general as long as they are outside the US. And i'm not the one whining about killing worthless pieces of shit(s) running drugs outside of the US.
when it's a black guy killing an American who defected to the other side
gee, think of all the christo-fascist parades that had to be cancelled back then for lack of an american muslim exhibit brought back to face justice. probably no need to mention all of the CIA black sites and the establishment of gitmo, outside the US, by the previous bush administration for the illegal purposes of detention and torture. apparently no problems from maga with that shit ...
We don't talk about those things
The father was a KNOWN terrorist as was the Samir Khan. Did Obama determine this himself? No, he relied on the American military and CIA to provide sufficient evidence to say they were a clear and present danger to American soldiers and Americans in general and he authorized the drone strike. You can disagree with the intelligence consensus at the time or disagree with the powers congress gave him to go after our enemies, but you can just fuck right off if you're trying to claim some bullshit conspiracy theory of Obama just targeting good righteous American citizens simply because they're not on US soil. That's some wild nutjob Qanon bullshit that anyone with more than a room tempt IQ should be able to see right through. Though I admit, I don't expect many on the right to pass that test so if someone's IQ is double digits lower than their level of bigotry, I guess they won't listen to reason anyway so why should I even bother explaining.
And I really don't care what you question.
"As ex-Army & ex-Coast Guard I'd defy the unlawful orders to deploy."
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Were they that when Obama did them? Or does it just apply when you want it to?
Who told you this? Obama appointed officials? Do you have the evidence to support your assumptions? or do you just expect less from the minority president because??????
And again i will ask where is the evidence that he was a clear and PRESENT danger to Americans? was it the troops we didn't have in Yemen he was a danger too? he was a propagandist like Morning Joe or CNN. he was not a leader of any kind.
So you are defending terrorists now?
sounds like it but if trmp ordered the drone strikes against this guy it would have been okey doekey
And they will remain silent about it. Seen it so many times in the past.
Only those who know they are fucktards should be offended. Trump clearly has attracted a large following of fucktards but that doesn't mean all Republicans fit that description. Just like how not all Trump supporters are white supremacists but it's beyond obvious that the vast majority of white supremacists are Trump supporters. Not all Trump supporters are fucktards, but clearly the vast majority of those fitting the description of 'fucktard' support Trump.
Of course not because not that many democrats support him.
There aren't a lot of leftists or Democrats that support Trump. So, your statement is actually more true than you are willing to admit.
Only if you apply liberal logic.
"If you say so sir!"
And the never ending magatard whataboutisms march on …
I know, right? trmp fires on a boat killing innocent people but Obama must be strung up because he went after an Al-Quaida leader who was trying to kill our own troops. I personally don;t fucking care that guy was a US citizen. He gave up his American citizenship when he tried to murder Americans.
Were you on the boat?
How do you know these people were innocent?
Do you know what a "go fast" is?
Do you know that drug runners use go fasts to transport drugs to the US?
You may want to look up the word "innocent".
Palm Beach is burning to the ground. Send in the Marines!
I would like to leave this article open, so can we please bring down the tone?
This article is a COMPLETE waste of time.
And yet here you are reading and contributing...........wasting time.
That's not fair. It's a good article. It's getting heated but it's good to get this stuff put in the open
The article may be good, but a lot of the responses are not.
You can't control what others say. Nothing we can do about the you know whats its here
I'm going to leave it open. I just need the heat to come down.
Got a bucket of ice water?
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but this is my first response, as I've been locked out for dropping my phone in a puddle and breaking my laptop all in three daze and confusing it be, cause I am a complete idiot when it comes to i. t.
I don't remember passwords or even e-mail addresses, but i'm good at creating messes, yet, nothing I do can ever let me compare to you, Mr. Trump.
The ability to attempt to compare Trump to Biden shows ones intelligence be hide in, or say Trump to Obama, please, spare US All the drama, asz so ridiculous , as so says any thinking momma, or data, but watts the matta, with huge lies when it's a Democratic Republic you despies R US, just ask project 2025 Russ, cause like Trump (I Don't), Russ never sleeps, but many an intelligent American, just might get the weeps, now and then, cause it's damn fckd up watching so many allow this fckd up to fck up US to this fckn point, cause our cities aren't burning, but TGrumps hair, their, and heavy Epstein pants are sure on FIRE this Stupid LYING MUTHA FCKN potUS, cause he deserves all the hates, he Most certainly creates.
I wish!