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Iran's failed strategy

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  8 months ago  •  75 comments

Iran's failed strategy
On December 14, former president Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, once labeled a moderate by The Washington Post and State Department officials, threatened Israel with nuclear annihilation. Speaking at Teheran University, Rafsanjani declared, "The use of even one nuclear bomb inside Israel will destroy everything."

Link to quote: The Iranian Ticking Bomb | The Washington Institute



For those who might not understand what the former Iranian president meant, he was declaring that one nuclear bomb could destroy the state of Israel where close to half the world's Jewish population was located. The regime in Iran is one of the evilest that the world has ever known.



Iran was recently defanged by President Trump. Israel had demolished Iran's proxies. Powerful sanctions had caused protests among the Iranian people. As bad as things were for the fanatical regime, they still had a very strong security force to suppress dissent even if it meant killing thousands of Iranian citizens. Iran also possessed thousands of ballistic missiles which acted as a great deterrence to all of its neighbors as well as the frightened nations of Europe.

In the meantime, the Iranian regime had a single strategy: to wait out the next 3 years. Once Trump was gone, maybe they would get another leftist proxy like Joe Biden or even better, maybe a fellow traveler like AOC or another squad member. Unfortunately for them President Trump wasn't going to let them get by. He is doing the hard work that others didn't have the fortitude to do. It is a tremendous gamble politically.  The midterms are less than a year away. This President obviously wants to do what is best for the country and in this case, the world as well.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

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evilone
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1.1  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    8 months ago
I am convinced that many on the left are hoping things go badly for US forces.

Hoping? No.

Expecting? Maybe.

Pointing out the hypocrisy and entitlement definitely. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @1.1    8 months ago
Hoping? No.

That is debatable.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.1.2  afrayedknot  replied to  evilone @1.1    8 months ago

Our forces will be supported by the vast majority. That they have been put in harm’s way as pawns in a game being played by an ineffectual leadership group does nothing but make their presence and sacrifice more worthy of that support. And the necessity of holding those responsible to account is to honor their service. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1.2    8 months ago
That they have been put in harm’s way as pawns in a game being played by an ineffectual leadership group does nothing but make their presence and sacrifice more worthy of that support.

You are against the strike on Iran?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.1.4  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    8 months ago

As initiated, sans consistent justification and lack of confidence in the ability of this administration to state, much less achieve ultimate goals should give everyone pause. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1.4    8 months ago

You don't think the US military can defeat Iran?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.1.6  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.5    8 months ago

It is one thing to ‘carry a big stick’, vic.

The impossible challenge for this ‘commandeerer-in-chief’ lies in ‘speaking softly’, much less in eloquence or with any semblance of a plan.

Our faithful troops, our fatigued country, and our forgotten allies deserve better. 

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.7  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    8 months ago
That is debatable.

No, that's projection. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    8 months ago
Sadly, I am convinced that many on the left are hoping things go badly for US forces.

I'm worried that Trumpian ignorance has created decades of violence.  It has become quite clear that Trump has miscalculated.  Ali Khamenei wasn't a strongman.  Khamenei held power that Trump does not understand.  Khamenei wasn't a Saddam Hussein or a Nicolás Maduro.  It may seem a subtle distinction; Khamenei was not a divine ruler but rather a ruler for the divine.  

Shia Islam is not going to go away.  Trump cannot defeat Shia Islam.  The only thing Trump may possibly accomplish will be temporarily separating the theocracy from a state.  But the theocracy won't go away.  That's the resilient power of a theocracy. 

That's how the Taliban returned to power after 20 years of war.  The Taliban were defeated by every western measure of defeat.  A new regime was installed that was subservient to the US.  So how did the Taliban return from the dead? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @1.2    8 months ago

It is kind of silly to worry about provoking a group that has already been attacking us since they came to power in 1979.

They are absolutely dedicated to the destruction of Israel and the US. They have even murdered thousands of their own people as well as Israelis and Americans.

The President had a choice: Allow them to have nuclear weapons aimed at all of us or to bring the regime to an end. He did what so many feared to do.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2.2  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    8 months ago
The President had a choice: Allow them to have nuclear weapons aimed at all of us or to bring the regime to an end. He did what so many feared to do.

What surprises me (after all the rhetoric) is that Iran hasn't loaded their nuclear reactor waste onto missiles and drones and dirtied up all the oil terminals in the region.  (The worst radiological weapons don't go bang.)

If you want me to cry for Ali Khamenei then you'll be disappointed.  But if I'm expected to play as dumb as Trump about destabilizing a religion then the disappointment will be greater.

So, when do the deportations of Iranian ramp up?  When can the American people expect sort of benefit from Trump's bad deal?  We're paying for the damned war.  We're stuck with higher gas prices.  Trump's chump change checks won't even pay the rent.  When does Trump stop pissing down people's backs and telling them they're winning?    

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @1.2.2    8 months ago
What surprises me (after all the rhetoric) is that Iran hasn't loaded their nuclear reactor waste onto missiles and drones and dirtied up all the oil terminals in the region.  (The worst radiological weapons don't go bang.)

Well, they aren't exactly geniuses. Remember that this operation began because they decided to have a meeting in which all the leadership would be in one place.


If you want me to cry for Ali Khamenei then you'll be disappointed.  But if I'm expected to play as dumb as Trump about destabilizing a religion then the disappointment will be greater.

You think that Iran brought stability?


So, when do the deportations of Iranian ramp up?  When can the American people expect sort of benefit from Trump's bad deal?  We're paying for the damned war.  We're stuck with higher gas prices.  Trump's chump change checks won't even pay the rent.  Wehn does Trump stop pissing down people's backs and telling them they're winning? 

Which Iranians do you want to deport?

As far as gas prices (which the msm has suddenly become interested in) go, the great economist Arthur Laffler just said that any spike due to the military action won't last long. I think you should wait a few weeks before we get excited. I do appreciate the concern for the American people.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2.4  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.3    8 months ago
Which Iranians do you want to deport?

Why, the Iranians that don't belong here.  Dearborn needs a revival.  And north Texas could stand an Operation EPIC Cleansing.  DHS has bought up a lot of warehouse space.  Use it.  Or was that just another Big Government waste of taxpayer money?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    8 months ago

I'm curious about something.  How can a comment be considered trolling if it is the first comment posted to an article?  I thought it had to be aimed at a comment posted by another.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3    8 months ago

That is a very good question.

I wonder if anyone can answer that?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.1    8 months ago
I wonder if anyone can answer that?

I wouldn't hold my breath.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.3.2    8 months ago

Let us remain hopeful. Maybe we'll get some clarification.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.3.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3    8 months ago

Buzz,

Beyond the fact that this whole line of questioning is Meta, I'll answer. If the first comment is meant to tick people off, it is trolling. Trolling is the act of trying to tick people off, so that they get a ticket when they respond in an annoying or nasty way.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.3.4    8 months ago
Trolling is the act of trying to tick people off

The word "it" ticks certain people off if the person who said it isn't part of a particular demographic.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3.6  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.3.4    8 months ago

Okay.  And as well I knew I was bordering META with my comments.  It appears to me that everyone is afraid to commit so it won't matter anyway.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.3.4    8 months ago

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Vic Eldred
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2  author  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    8 months ago

Oh goody, the video comes with a dancing lesson ... @!@

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    8 months ago
Lefties Losing It

So it's another day that ends with a "Y".  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3  author  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

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JohnRussell
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3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    8 months ago

We attacked Iran because Netanyahu demanded it . Rubio spilled the beans yesterday. 

If this war is so popular and great let's hold the midterm elections later this week. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    8 months ago

We don't go to war based on polls. This action was needed decades ago. This might just be the greatest foreign policy achievement of my lifetime 

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.2  Hallux  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    8 months ago
let's hold the midterm elections later this week.

Gas prices are too high for ruralists to drive to the polls.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    8 months ago
This might just be the greatest foreign policy achievement of my lifetime

[Deleted] [✘] so much?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    8 months ago
If this war

What war?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hallux @3.1.2    8 months ago
Gas prices are too high for ruralists to drive to the polls.

Gas prices in rural NC are cheaper than the urban areas by almost $0.25.  

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.6  Hallux  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.5    8 months ago

Duh, rural overhead is cheaper than urban overhead.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.7  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    8 months ago
This might just be the greatest foreign policy achievement of my lifetime 

Right now in Iran, they are comparing the assassination of their version of president and cabinet as their Pearl Harbor treachery.

We struck a Saturday morning business breakfast meeting while negotiations with the US  & UN were scheduled to resume Monday.

This might be one of our lowest moments as far as morals and ethics are concerned.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hallux @3.1.6    8 months ago
Gas prices are too high for ruralists to drive to the polls.

So your comment is fictitious.  Thanks for at least admitting it.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.9  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.7    8 months ago
This might be one of our lowest moments as far as morals and ethics are concerned

that's familiar territory for the criminal/traitor/child molester that occupies the oval office ...

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.10  Hallux  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.8    8 months ago
So your comment is fictitious.

I'm starting to think my 9 month 2009 stay in Winston-Salem was ficticious.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.11  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.8    8 months ago

original

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @3.1.11    8 months ago

That's it? [Deleted][✘]

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1.13  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    8 months ago

You state that Netanyahu ordered us to attack Iran but that's not really what Rubio said. 

The second question I’ve been asked is: Why now?  Well, there’s two reasons why now.  The first is it was abundantly clear that if Iran came under attack by anyone, the United States or Israel or anyone, they were going to respond and respond against the United States.  The orders had been delegated down to the field commanders.  It was automatic, and in fact it beared to be true because, in fact, the – within an hour of the initial attack on the leadership compound, the missile forces in the south and in the north for that matter had already been activated to launch.  In fact, those had already been pre-positioned.

The third is the assessment that was made that if we stood and waited for that attack to come first before we hit them, we would suffer much higher casualties.  And so the President made the very wise decision.  We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action, we knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even higher those killed, and then we would all be here answering questions about why we knew that and didn’t act.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio Remarks to Press - United States Department of State

Seems rather clear to me that the understanding in Washington was that Israel was going to attack Iran and if the US did nothing, our troops were still going to be attacked by Iran and the potential causalities could be higher. So the hard choice was to attack first to reduce potential casualties to our troops. Sort of flies in the face of the opinion that Washington doesn't care about the troops. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.14  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.4    8 months ago
"What war?"

This whole CONFLICT was started on Oct7 by the Iranian proxy Hamas and continued by the Iranian proxy Hezbollah and the Iranian proxy the Houthies and then by Iran itself.  One does not kill an octopus by damaging its tentacles, but when even the octopus joins in, it is necessary to kill the octopus.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.14    8 months ago
This whole CONFLICT was started on Oct7

It goes back almost 50 years.  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.16  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.14    8 months ago
This whole CONFLICT was started on Oct7

It started long before then, and it's difficult to blame Israel for simply being fed up with their bullshit.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.17  Jack_TX  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.7    8 months ago
Right now in Iran, they are comparing the assassination of their version of president and cabinet as their Pearl Harbor treachery.

Which explains why Iranians all over the civilized world are dancing in the streets.

Out of curiosity, how do they describe Oct 7?

How do they explain their unwillingness to accept Palestinian refugees?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.18  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.16    8 months ago

It's interesting that this is around the time that the Festival of Purim is celebrated around this time of the year, which comemmorates a long-ago relationship between Jews and Persians.

The Purim Story OIP-C.VFZlJfYanFkNKljpnC112QHaEU?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain&o=7&rm=3

LINK -> The Purim Story - The Book of Esther (Megillah) in Brief - Chabad.org

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.19  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.17    8 months ago
Which explains why Iranians all over the civilized world are dancing in the streets.

Initially. What for a few hours appeared to be the celebration of the Ayatollah's demise are now hope and prayer parties for the Crown Prince to return and set things right.  That is a long shot.

Out of curiosity, how do they describe Oct 7?

Ask AI

How do they explain their unwillingness to accept Palestinian refugees?

Deflect much?

Given that my original comment was yesterday;

I wonder if the regime or future Iranians will have some clever slogan about the missile strike on the girl's elementary school like "Remember the Alamo"

or now that, the USA, illegally sank the frigate Dena in international waters 40 minutes before shift change and sunrise, maybe that can be their version of

"Remember the USS Maine".  Killing people in their sleep is such a class act.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.20  Jack_TX  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.19    8 months ago
Initially.

I'm not sure what we were expecting.  What's the normal dancing duration when a tyrant is killed?  Is there supposed to be a three week festival or something?

Ask AI

I'm asking you.  You seem to both care intently and have insider knowledge about how Iranians feel.  Their government funded a mass murder, rape and abduction of innocent civilians.   How do they feel about that?

Deflect much?

Not at all.  

The Israelis did far more to protect innocent lives in Gaza than Iran did.  Explain again why we give a solitary shit how they view their Supreme Leader meeting Jesus.

Do we also now care about Pakistan being upset that we went in and got bin Laden?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.21  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.20    8 months ago

Let's not forget how the present Iranian regime dealt with gays...

Iran-hanging-gays-under-Rouhani.jpg

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.22  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.21    8 months ago
Let's not forget how the present Iranian regime dealt with gays...

Well we can add that, but it seems to me the list is long enough already.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    8 months ago

Hey stupid fat fuck Trump - if you want the people to support your war it would be better not to talk about your drapes, how much you love gold, and how the sound of hammers reminds you of money , until the war briefing/Medal of honor ceremony is over not in the middle of it. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    8 months ago
if you want the people to support your war

What war?

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.2.2  Hallux  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.1    8 months ago
What war?

Ah yes, as congress did not declare one, there isn't one. Orwell's Bigly Bro would be proud ... @!@.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hallux @3.2.2    8 months ago
as congress did not declare one

And they don't need to for the operation that took place.  You know, kind of like previous Presidents did.  But I get it, because Trump did it you all have to stomp your feet and scream.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.2.4  Hallux  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.3    8 months ago

Right now my feet are being tickled and I'm laughing.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.2.5  Gsquared  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.1    8 months ago
What war?

The military attack on Iran that your Dear Leader keeps calling a war.  That war.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Gsquared @3.2.5    8 months ago
your Dear Leader keeps calling a war.

According to you and those like yourself, he's a liar and nothing he says can be trusted.  Are you saying he's no longer a liar?

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.2.7  Gsquared  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.6    8 months ago
 Are you saying he's no longer a liar?

Are you saying he's lying?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Gsquared @3.2.7    8 months ago

That's not an answer.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.2.9  Gsquared  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.8    8 months ago

Based on all objective criteria, Trump is a lying sack of shit.  Apparently, you agree.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Gsquared @3.2.9    8 months ago
Based on all objective criteria, Trump is a lying sack of shit.

So selectively you don't think he's lying.  Reality is, he's no different than any other politician.  

Apparently, you agree.

Never gave indication either way.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    8 months ago

They've had 40 years to plan for the day the US decided not to tolerate their killing of Americans and funding of terrorism worldwide. 

I don't think they imagined it could possibly go this poorly and result in most of their neighbors pissed at them...

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    8 months ago

Even Hillary Clinton said she would decimate Iran if she were elected. Nancy Pelosi said in 2011 that Obama did not need Congressional approval to attack Syris....but here we are today. Democrats and their media operatives have totally forgotten about all that because one reason...it is Trump doing it. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  bugsy @4.1    8 months ago
Nancy Pelosi said in 2011 that Obama did not need Congressional approval to attack Syris....but here we are today.

It's about WHO made the call.  Democrats make it they are silent and celebrate it.  Anybody else, they scream, cry, stomp their feet.  Glaring hypocrisy.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @4.1    8 months ago

Even Hillary Clinton said she would decimate Iran if she were elected. Nancy Pelosi said in 2011 that Obama did not need Congressional approval to attack Syris....but here we are today. Democrats and their media operatives have totally forgotten about all that because one reason...it is Trump doing it. 

CDS, PDS and ODS all in one post. Seek help. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.2    8 months ago

I was going to tell them good job on the trifecta!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    8 months ago
I don't think they imagined it could possibly go this poorly and result in most of their neighbors pissed at them.

I think they expected a continuation of the hand-outs like what they received from Obama and Biden.  We see how that worked out.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.1  bugsy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2    8 months ago

If Trump changed his name to Obama and dropped pallets of cash into Iran, the left would be cheering him and demanding he get a third term. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5  Buzz of the Orient    8 months ago

Seems that NT members are taking sides, so I wonder which of these two nations the members here prefer to survive under their present leaderships - Iran or Israel.  Many have already indicated their choice. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    8 months ago

Nonsense. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    8 months ago

I should have added "afraid to commit" as a choice.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    8 months ago

I'm an American so I'm on America's side. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2    8 months ago

Seems to me there are Americans who are on Israel's side and Americans that are on Iran's side, but my question was to indicate which of those 2.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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6  MrFrost    8 months ago

But hey, good news, the price of gas is going to skyrocket!!!!!

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @6    8 months ago

oh goody, that makes the cost of everything else in america go down, right?

americans got to pay for the maga moron's illegal tariffs last year, and this year we get to pay for his illegal war ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @6.1    8 months ago

Hello recession. Which means even more unemployment, retirement fund take a nose dive, and suicide rates skyrocket.

Meanwhile, the falling birth rates continue.

 
 

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