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Congratulations, Candace Owens!!!

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  6 years ago  •  148 comments

By:   Miriam Weaver

Congratulations, Candace Owens!!!
But I was mostly astonished that all those years ago in high school, I was lied to. I was brainwashed into believing that it was my body, and therefore, simply, my choice. Today it’s become fashionable for narcissistic celebrities, to perpetuate such brainwash amongst their fans. Like Miley Cyrus, posing half-naked with her tongue out over a cake that reads “abortion”. Like Jameela Jamil, tweeting to scores of vulnerable young girls about how “proud” she is of an earlier abortion from her...

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Just wow!  What a beautiful message!  There is nothing as fulfilling as life.  The creation and beginning of a human life.  Not a clump of cells, a zygote, something to be discarded to the trash if it’s selfishly inconvenient.  A beautiful human life.  


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T



Look at this exciting news! So happy for her!  
ANNOUNCEMENT:

I remember the first time I learned about abortion in school.
“It’s a clump of cells until after 3 months” said my obtuse gym teacher turned health instructor.

Fast forward to more than a decade later to my 10 week scan, and I will never forget the feelings I experienced.

I was amazed that our baby already had arms and legs, hands and feet and was dancing around inside me. I was overcome by an inexorable sense of love followed by the powerful realization that I would do anything and everything to protect my unborn child.

But I was mostly astonished that all those years ago in high school, I was lied to. I was brainwashed into believing that it was my body, and therefore, simply, my choice.

Today it’s become fashionable for narcissistic celebrities, to perpetuate such brainwash amongst their fans. Like Miley Cyrus, posing half-naked with her tongue out over a cake that reads “abortion”.
Like Jameela Jamil, tweeting to scores of vulnerable young girls about how “proud” she is of an earlier abortion from her teen years.
Years ago, I would have thought these women were heroic feminists. Today I know that they are anything but.

And so as I move into this next chapter of my life I want to say this: To all of the young girls who have vocally supported abortion— you are allowed to change your mind. To all the young women who made uninformed decisions to go through with abortions: you are not “murderers” and you are not automatically disqualified from being pro-life. You too can have a change of heart. Education followed by transformation is one of life’s greatest offerings.

These past 5 1/2 months have been a whirlwind. A viral video with over 200 million views, comedians threatening to physically assault me, adult men degrading me because they disagree with my viewpoints on George Floyd, while others have accused me of not “showing up”, not being invited, or not caring enough to jump into the perpetual protest scene.

It is such a relief to finally share the truth.  
Life is a miracle. 
Life is sacred. 
And when women carry life, we get to become keepers of some of the Universe’s greatest secrets: beginnings.  


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JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    6 years ago

She's married to a white guy? what a shock. 

Candace Owens is a grifter who saw a chance to make money puffing up Trumpsters. 

It is what it is. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.3  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @2    6 years ago
She's married to a white guy? what a shock.

You find that significant of something?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2    6 years ago

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JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    6 years ago

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @3    6 years ago

This thread was deleted as personal and no value.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4  devangelical    6 years ago

don't like abortion? simple, don't have one. otherwise, [Deleted,] mind your own fucking business, and realize that a lot of americans don't have or need imaginary friends that hold dominion over every aspect of their personal lives or  individual right to freedom of choice. BTW, worshiping the most prolific abortionist in the universe hurts your cause.

attempting to impose exclusive religious dogma on the unwilling in a secular nation will only lead to constitutionally justifiable acts of retaliation against the perpetrators. face reality, this nation will sooner become a thumper killing ground before it ever turns into jesusland, and preserving individual liberty will be the reason why. get a clue.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1  Gordy327  replied to  devangelical @4    6 years ago
don't like abortion? simple, don't have one. otherwise, stfu, mind your own fucking business,

Exactly! Regardless how one feels about abortion, it is still an individual choice and right and only the individual faced with that choice can make it.

attempting to impose exclusive religious dogma on the unwilling in a secular nation will only lead to constitutionally justifiable acts of retaliation against the perpetrators. face reality, this nation will sooner become a thumper killing ground before it ever turns into jesusland, and preserving individual liberty will be the reason why.

That will fuel the religious persecution complex some seem to have.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Gordy327 @4.1    6 years ago

luckily we've had 20 years of practice killing religious terrorists on the other side of the planet. a single document both allows religious nuts to spew their unconstitutional and unamerican bullshit and yet prevents others from turning them into yard art, cat food, and kindling when they engage in that same religious based hate speech here.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.3  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.2    6 years ago
Science is the friend of the pro life movement as we see how human a preborn boy or girl is and how soon they have a heart beat, feel pain, and appear as the human baby that we all once were in our lives.  

Clearly you do not understand the science, (especially embryology) and instead inject emotional rhetoric into the argument. But  your post doesn't actually address what I said in my post. So I'm not sure what your point is.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.4  Gordy327  replied to  devangelical @4.1.1    6 years ago
luckily we've had 20 years of practice killing religious terrorists

To be fair, religious terrorist have been trying to kill us and others too. In this country, they're trying more to strip away individual rights like abortion. It's just a different kind of terrorism, but still terrorism.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.5  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.2    6 years ago
Science is the friend of the pro life movement

Is that why science has been used to not only support the Roe decision, but also uphold and affirm it in subsequent abortion case decisions? Science is science, and it certainly doesn't support your position. As a side note, it's funny how you try to use science to support your views, but reject it as "pseudoscience and a conspiracy" when it doesn't. Such bias and intellectual dishonesty is quite apparent.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.8  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.7    6 years ago
So you think it’s terrorism to promote the pro life viewpoint and oppose the killing fields of the most innocent among us?  

Read what I said more carefully! I said it's terrorism to try and strip people of their individual rights! I said nothing about promoting any viewpoint.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.9  Gordy327  replied to    6 years ago
You equate cutting heads off with trying to stop or curtail the killing of unborn humans now that is a science all of its own.I'm not for banning abortion but there should be far less in the 21 century after all we know how babies are made.

I said they were different forms of terrorism. I didn't necessarily equate them. As for the number of abortions performed, if women choose to not have an abortion, then the abortion rate will go down. But that's irrelevant to the right of abortion itself. Unfortunately, there are those who are for banning abortion, even to an extreme. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.11  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.10    6 years ago

Is that what you took away from my post? Seriously? Did you even bother to read (not to mention comprehend) it?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1.12  TᵢG  replied to  Gordy327 @4.1.11    6 years ago

It is easier to invent a strawman.   When unable to directly address your point, pretend you made a different (and stupid) point and rebut that instead.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.13  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.12    6 years ago
When unable to directly address your point, pretend you made a different (and stupid) point and rebut that instead.

Which is intentionally deceptive and misleading and is as good as lying.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.14  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.10    6 years ago

keep religious mass hysteria on church property, otherwise get a fucking permit like all other planned gatherings. that book they keep slapping only carries weight among those that think it has any relevance in a secular america. it doesn't. the constitution makes thumpers equal, not special.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.16  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.15    6 years ago

You're free to express whatever you want. You're not free to try to deny or revoke another's rights, including the right to an abortion. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.19  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.18    6 years ago
Then no one should revoke our right to go to church or to sing or chant there..

No one is. Neither should anyone attempt or advocate revocation of the right to an abortion.

 
 
 
lady in black
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4.1.20  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.18    6 years ago

 But yet you want to take away a woman's right to choose what to do with her body.  That's rich coming from someone who doesn't want their "church" rights taken away. Can we say hypocrite, yes we can...why are your rights more important than a woman's?

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.22  Gordy327  replied to    6 years ago

That's funny. With the way some theists go on about religious liberty, they seem to think religious rights trumps all else. So, if all rights are equal, then why do some advocate taking away a woman's right to choose?

 
 
 
lady in black
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4.1.23  lady in black  replied to    6 years ago

Didn't say they were, I'm not the one trying to take away someone else's rights.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1.24  TᵢG  replied to    6 years ago
Why are women's rights more important than religious rights

You cannot deem your objection to abortion to be a religious right.   The USA protects your ability to believe what you wish, but it does not grant your beliefs to be truth or even to be correct.   And certainly, your beliefs are not rights.

If religious beliefs were rights then genital mutilation, honor killings, general bigotry, etc. would be a right.

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.1.25  charger 383  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.24    6 years ago

If abortion is a sin and then if there is a judgement day that is when it should be dealt with

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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4.1.26  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.18    6 years ago
Then no one should revoke our right to go to church or to sing or chant there...

Chant?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1.29  TᵢG  replied to    6 years ago
I’m not religious nor believe abortion should be illegal.

Okay.   This does not change the essence of my answer, but your positions are noted.

Here is the question you asked:

MUVA @4.1.21 ☞ Why are women's rights more important than religious rights

So let's be clear in consideration of your declaration of personal position:

  • Do you consider abortion to be a religious right?    If yes, then that is what I took from your comments.
  • Do you consider abortion to be a woman's right?   If yes, then that is also what I took from your comments.

Thus, with that established, you asked why a women's right to choose an abortion is more important than a religious right to prevent that choice.

So, again, I will answer your question.   Since you are not religious, I will substitute 'you' with 'one':

One cannot deem one's objection to abortion to be a religious right.   The USA protects one's ability to believe what one wishes, but it does not grant one's beliefs to be truth or even to be correct.   And certainly, one's beliefs are not rights.

If religious beliefs were rights then genital mutilation, honor killings, general bigotry, etc. would be a right.


In short, there is no religious right to prevent a women from exercising her right to an abortion.   Since there is no religious right, the question of it's importance over a woman's right is moot.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1.31  TᵢG  replied to    6 years ago

Deflection.   If you have a point, make it.   I have responded to what you have written.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6  Split Personality    6 years ago

Congratulations, Candice and Douglas.

Candace stepped down as the communications director of Turning Points USA after comparative NAZI remarks in 05/19.

The chair of Turning Points UK in early 2019, George Farmer, son of Tory/Conservative Lord Michael Farmer, a former commodities trader, (cough), Douglas also stepped down from Turning Points UK.

They announced their wedding at some point in "early" 2019 to be held at Trump Vineyards on August 31.2019.

Now shes' already 10 weeks along and married well. 

Candice joins over 3 trillion other women on their planet to become pregnant this year.

Congratulations Candice and Douglas.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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7  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)    6 years ago

Awesome for her!

Holy crab-cakes Batman!!!

I don't feel abortion should automatically be the "go to" for women. I've never had one; even though my mother offered to take me to the clinic (I was 28) when I found out I was pregnant with my son... SHE thought it would be best because I had just filed for divorce and SHE didn't want to look after a child... well, guess what? My son is 12 and my mother has RARELY had to help me out. My mother watched my daughter and loved it because my daughter was the princess she always wanted and never got from me... 

... anyways, I believe there are instances in which abortion may be prudent and sometimes even necessary. It should be left up to the woman to make that decision based on her personal situation. It should NOT be illegal, because that means desperate girls and women will end up doing back-alley abortions again and that means a whole lot of other issues overall.

And no offense to the "men" here, but you have no idea what it's like being a woman and carrying a child; you don't know how we feel or what hormones do to us during and after. You really shouldn't have much of a say. Therefore, men fighting over this subject is simply silly.

I've seen women carry a child and give birth to that child and never love that child, but because someone told her it was wrong to abort, she had that child and she not only screwed up that child mentally [and often physically], but changed her body and mind forever too. For you religious folks, would you rather have an unborn FETUS [non-viable outside a woman's body; technically a parasite] meet God with open arms or have a child suffer because he / she is unloved and often blamed for the downfall of the parents despite the fact that it's probably not true?

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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9  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)    6 years ago

That wasn't the main point of that message. I agree it's their choice. Apparently we're in violent agreement. 

 
 
 
Veronica
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10  Veronica    6 years ago

No one owns my body but me.  Whatever she believes for her is great FOR HER.  What I believe is good FOR ME.  She stays on her side of the road & I stay on mine - we will both be happy.  I don't appreciate anyone telling me what to do with something I own and pay for.   Would anyone like to be forced to donate a kidney, part of a pancreas because it will save a life?  Or is it YOUR body?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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11  Greg Jones    6 years ago

Should abortion be restricted or regulated in any way, e.g. - stage of pregnancy or age of female?

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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11.2  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Greg Jones @11    6 years ago

What I personally believe and what I would choose to or not to do is just that; I don't believe in ordering people to do anything and I certainly wouldn't want anyone to do that to me. Let's put it this way, if my 17 year old told me she was pregnant, we would discuss the options... actually we've already discussed such things because a friend of hers just had a baby at 18. So, I already know what she would decide and it's not abortion. However... she has condoms and tells me when she's only got a few left. She's also on birth control, but more for regulation of cycle because she knows that STDs happen and condoms are a must. Lastly, she's very aware that she's not ready for babies.

 
 

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