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Smokin'!

  
By:  Wheel  •  music videos  •  3 days ago  •  69 comments

Smokin'!
"There is nothing new under the sun except novels and cigarettes." attributed to Balzac

A couple weeks ago I watched an old movie, The War Between Men and Women. The male lead, played by Jack Lemmon, was loosely based on the artist, James Thurber. It was a good movie, bit dated, but one thing really struck me about it.  All the smoking!!  People were smoking everywhere, trains, cars, in public, in buildings, while others were eating, as they were eating,  around children.  I was born in '52 and grew up in this time period.  It was the norm for me, as a kid.  But it's been years since that kind of thing was outlawed and it just gave me a start at how ubiquitous it was back then.

Point is, I thought it might make an interesting thing to see if we played, Music videos with smoking in them. Any kind of smoking, tobacco, pot, hash, smoking tires and smoking engines and smoking guns. You all know me, I don't believe in limiting our entertainment with the hobble of consistency.

Let's start with a classic, french girls smoking in bed. Peter Sarstedt, Where Do You Go To My Lovely:

Black Stone Cherry, Me And Mary Jane

This one is sneaky, I happened to spot one person in the background with a ciggie and cup of coffee at about 1:42 seconds. Ram Jam, Black Betty

You get the idea, let's have fun.  I've been looking around here and you folks definitely need a little fun!

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Buzz of the Orient
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1  Buzz of the Orient    3 days ago

I don't usually watch many music videos, and I really can't recall any that did have smoking in them but I probably didn't notice it because I never looked for it.  Movies are a whole other story, of course, especially classic movies, but I haven't noticed much smoking in more recent ones.  (Don't Bogart that Easy Rider, my friend.)  I've not smoked tobacco for more than 40 years and I never smoked much anyway so it hasn't been an important issue for me.  

And you're damn right the folks here need a little fun.

 
 
 
Wheel
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1.1  author  Wheel  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1    3 days ago

I notice people smoking, I notice most everything. But you don't see people lighting up in movies anymore, except Bruce Willis of course. Well, except in pot movies of course.

 
 
 
evilgenius
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1.1.1  evilgenius  replied to  Wheel @1.1    3 days ago

The newest Netflix buzz movie "Kate" lights up a couple of times in the film.

original

 
 
 
Wheel
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1.1.2  author  Wheel  replied to  evilgenius @1.1.1    3 days ago

The IDGAF look. Love it.

 
 
 
evilgenius
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1.1.3  evilgenius  replied to  Wheel @1.1.2    3 days ago

Even though there have been several killer women with a heart movie out recently (Jolt on Amazon & Gunpowder Milkshake on Netflix are two very recent ones) this movie was fun and that scene was bad ass. Mary Elizabeth Winstead really makes this film fun.

 
 
 
Wheel
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1.1.4  author  Wheel  replied to  evilgenius @1.1.3    3 days ago

What is it about women smoking? My mom smoked, all my aunts smoked, the ladies on our street all smoked. This was the 50's, everyone smoked. Every girl I ever dated after jr. high smoked. I don't smoke. Kissing a girl who smokes is like kissing an ashtray.  I don't know what I find so interesting in women who smoke.

On a somewhat related note, if you watch the Peter Sarstedt video there are pictures of French girls smoking. For some reason they're even hotter than American girls. Maybe I need help?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  evilgenius @1.1.1    3 days ago

"buzz movie" ???

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1.6  Thomas  replied to  evilgenius @1.1.1    23 hours ago

I like the juxtaposition of the blood/wounds with the cheshire grin on her shirt...

 
 
 
evilgenius
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1.1.7  evilgenius  replied to  Wheel @1.1.4    23 hours ago
What is it about women smoking? My mom smoked, all my aunts smoked, the ladies on our street all smoked.

I don't know. My parents both chain smoked. Both my sisters smoke, but my brother and I never took up the habit. 

 
 
 
evilgenius
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1.1.8  evilgenius  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.5    23 hours ago
"buzz movie" ???

The newest movie to generate internet clicks. It came out last week. 

 
 
 
evilgenius
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1.1.9  evilgenius  replied to  Thomas @1.1.6    23 hours ago
I like the juxtaposition of the blood/wounds with the cheshire grin on her shirt...

That scene was great cinematography - probably the best of the movie. 

 
 
 
Wheel
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1.1.10  author  Wheel  replied to  evilgenius @1.1.7    16 hours ago
My parents both chain smoked. Both my sisters smoke, but my brother and I never took up the habit. 

Both my parents smoked, all my brothers and sisters smoke cigarettes.  I never took it up.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.11  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  evilgenius @1.1.8    16 hours ago

LOL. Thanks. I was actually joking.

 
 
 
Wheel
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1.2  author  Wheel  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1    3 days ago
And you're damn right the folks here need a little fun.

I know, right?  I been looking around and this place has become dismal, dreary, dismaying.  Frankly, it stinks.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Wheel @1.2    3 days ago

Hi, Wheel! Good to have you back!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    3 days ago

Back in the day (dawn of talkies) smoking was considered sophisticated. This presumably stemmed from the beginning of tobacco use in Europe when it was a luxury. 

Why people still cling to this ridiculous conclusion is unknown. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.1  Thomas  replied to  JohnRussell @2    23 hours ago

I don't think it is sophistication but an act of anti-authority that gets most people started.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3  Kavika     3 days ago

512

 
 
 
Ender
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4  Ender    3 days ago

I remember when airplanes had ashtrays in the armrests.

 
 
 
Wheel
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4.1  author  Wheel  replied to  Ender @4    3 days ago

I remember early pictures from the NASA control room. They had ashtrays built into the computer consoles.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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4.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Ender @4    3 days ago
I remember when airplanes had ashtrays in the armrests.

So do I.  Related story:  I had actually forgotten about this incident until very recently when I discovered a box in storage that contained paperwork from my years of flying.  A woman approached me during a flight and asked if I could find her a temporary seat in the smoking section so she blast a quick one, and then return to her seat in the front of the coach cabin.  There was one middle seat available, and I asked the gentleman sitting on the aisle if he could slide over for a few minutes while the lady, who was standing in the aisle behind me, smoked.  The gentleman agreed, and began removing items from the middle seat tray table, which was in the down position and had personal items on it that belonged to both himself, and the gentleman sitting in the window seat.  I remember the man as having displayed small but obvious amount of inconvenience which was displayed in the amount of time it was taking him to move to the middle seat.  Then out of the blue, I was violently shoved from behind and landed in a laying position across the man on the aisle and the empty middle seat.  I was truly shocked to see that the violent shove came from the lady wanting to smoke.  As she stormed back to the front of the cabin, she was shouting, "Forget it, just forget it!"  Had WTF been a phrase back then, I'm absolutely certain I would have used it.  With gusto.  Anyway, as was and still is protocol, I wrote a report detailing the incident, and I also obtained witness statements.  It was funny reading the statements from all those years ago.  The inconvenienced passenger actually admitted to 'taking his time' moving into the middle seat, and he felt that his lack of urgency was the lady's  reason for becoming violent.  Did I have her arrested?  No.  If I remember correctly, our multi-day trip was ending upon our arrival in Houston, and I didn't want to be the reason that my fellow crew members would have to spend at least a couple of hours at the airport before they could head for home. Handy-dandy FYI:  If any of you feel the need to make a ruckus on an airplane and get away with it, do it on the last leg of a flight crew's 3 or 4-day trip.  The odds of being taken into federal custody upon destination arrival diminish greatly. 

As for the issue at hand (more or less):

 
 
 
Wheel
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4.2.1  author  Wheel  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.2    3 days ago

cool story, thanks for sharing that.

My uncle played guitar and he used to put his cigarette in the strings like that while playing.

 
 
 
Ender
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4.2.2  Ender  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.2    3 days ago

What a piece of work. Sadly it doesn't seem we have gotten any better.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @4    3 days ago

me, too

 
 
 
Wheel
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5  author  Wheel    3 days ago

Anyway, getting back to the topic, smoking videos, here's Pretty Reckless.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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6  Perrie Halpern R.A.    3 days ago

Can the water be smoking?

 
 
 
Wheel
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6.1  author  Wheel  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6    3 days ago

jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png Absolutely!  It's old enough.

 
 
 
Kavika
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7  Kavika     3 days ago

Smoke_Signals.jpg

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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8  SteevieGee    3 days ago

I went to a restaurant in Virginia several years ago and asked to be seated in the non-smoking section.  She told me I can not smoke anywhere I want.  It's always nice to get home to smoke free California.

 
 
 
Wheel
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8.1  author  Wheel  replied to  SteevieGee @8    3 days ago

I remember when no-smoking sections in restaurants first became common. Smokers would be pissed because they couldn't sit just anywhere. Now they go outdoors.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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9  Split Personality    3 days ago

Welcome back Wheel

to the show that never ends!

Note the smoky cloud at the concert.

 
 
 
Ender
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9.1  Ender  replied to  Split Personality @9    3 days ago

Back in the day I had been to concerts where people were just passing joints around.

 
 
 
Wheel
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9.1.1  author  Wheel  replied to  Ender @9.1    3 days ago

Me too.  I went to concert in Hartford Conn. It was an open air stadium.  Cops everywhere, as soon as the music started the joints came out and started passing around. Can you imagine sharing a joint with a stranger in age of Covid?

 
 
 
Ender
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9.1.2  Ender  replied to  Wheel @9.1.1    3 days ago

No.  Haha

I am surprised those dugouts aren't making a comeback.

Single hits.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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9.1.3  r.t..b...  replied to  Ender @9.1    3 days ago

“Back in the day…”

…my very first concert, the Ozark Mountain Daredevils…after a two hour rain delay, during which the joints we’re passed freely (also a first) under ponchos and garbage bags…the double rainbow that formed perfectly over the stage to the opening number ‘If You Want to get to Heaven’ was a life altering moment. 

 
 
 
Ender
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9.1.4  Ender  replied to  r.t..b... @9.1.3    3 days ago

I hate to admit what my first concert was.

The Bee Gees and KC and the Sunshine Band...

I made up for it though with a lot of 12 dollar open seating concerts.

Saw Aerosmith at an open venue. The Merriweather Post Pavilion and it rained. We tried to roll under a tree in the back. Didn't work out well.

 
 
 
devangelical
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9.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Ender @9.1.4    3 days ago
The Bee Gees and KC and the Sunshine Band...

meh, I'm sure the statute of limitations for turning in your man card has run out by now...

 
 
 
Ender
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9.1.6  Ender  replied to  devangelical @9.1.5    3 days ago

Is that some jive talkin...

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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9.1.7  r.t..b...  replied to  Ender @9.1.4    3 days ago

“I hate to admit what my first concert was.”

Not really a bad concert, as the experience is always memorable.

I’ve enjoyed dozens, but the best was seeing George Thorogood play an impromptu set after hours at the bar I worked in college. It was just weeks after releasing his first album and the band was basically rehearsing for the next days gig. Un.fucking.believable. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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9.1.8  devangelical  replied to  r.t..b... @9.1.7    3 days ago

a CO bar? I first saw him at the little bear in evergreen.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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9.1.9  r.t..b...  replied to  devangelical @9.1.8    3 days ago
a CO bar?

Farquarhts on main st. in Durango. A little pizza joint/bar with a small stage in back, at least back in the late 70's...not sure if it's still around 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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9.1.10  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Ender @9.1.6    3 days ago
Is that some jive talkin...

You ought to see him shake shake shake his booty. 

 
 
 
Wheel
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9.1.11  author  Wheel  replied to  Ender @9.1.2    3 days ago

"I am surprised those dugouts aren't making a comeback.

Single hits."

Never a fan of one hitters.  Back in the day chicks carried a one hitter and bummed a bowl of their guy.  Guys smoked joints or big bowls, blunts were not even a thing back then.  I had a beautiful meerschaum bowl I bought the first time I went overseas. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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9.1.12  devangelical  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @9.1.10    3 days ago

sorry, I couldn't decide which one was funnier...

 
 
 
Wheel
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9.1.13  author  Wheel  replied to  devangelical @9.1.12    3 days ago

You did right.  Better to err on the side of caution.  jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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9.2  SteevieGee  replied to  Split Personality @9    3 days ago

That's mostly weed smoke no doubt.  I saw ELP in about 77 or 78.

 
 
 
devangelical
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9.3  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @9    3 days ago

>cough< >cough< ... don't look at me!

I don't remember what year I saw them in concert, but I do remember you could get an oz. for $12 then.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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9.3.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @9.3    3 days ago

It costs me $200 nowadays.  

 
 
 
Wheel
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9.3.2  author  Wheel  replied to  devangelical @9.3    3 days ago

Back in the day I could buy a baggie stuffed full to the top for 20$.

 
 
 
devangelical
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9.3.3  devangelical  replied to  Wheel @9.3.2    3 days ago

but we're both white people, we're supposed to pay more.......... jk, welcome back.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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9.3.4  SteevieGee  replied to  devangelical @9.3    3 days ago

I could get a 'lid' for $10.  The weed was crap though compared to now though.

 
 
 
devangelical
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9.3.5  devangelical  replied to  SteevieGee @9.3.4    3 days ago

4 fingers and the weed was shit, until the columbian came along in the late 70's and early 80's. closest thing there was to thai stick.

 
 
 
Wheel
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9.3.6  author  Wheel  replied to  devangelical @9.3.5    3 days ago

I used to be able to buy a lb for 100$.  Break it into 20 bags, 20 bucks each.  I'd sell one a week around the base and beach back in the early 70's.  This was pre drug test days.

 
 
 
devangelical
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9.3.7  devangelical  replied to  Wheel @9.3.6    3 days ago

$90 -$110 lbs. straight off "the hill" in Boulder CO. we knew somebody that split kilos and called them pounds. me and sparky would pre-sell oz's at high school for $10 a bag, monday thru thursday, and then go score that afternoon for delivery friday. we just did it for the free weed, so the weekends were always a lot of fun.

 
 
 
Wheel
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9.3.8  author  Wheel  replied to  devangelical @9.3.7    3 days ago

Yeah.  Back then a lot people dealt to smoke. I did the same thing.

 
 
 
Wheel
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10  author  Wheel    3 days ago

Since we've been talking about weed and the topic is smoking in videos, how about Coolio, Gangster's Paradise.

 
 
 
Ender
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10.1  Ender  replied to  Wheel @10    3 days ago

Who could forget Snoop Dog.   Haha

 
 
 
Dulay
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10.2  Dulay  replied to  Wheel @10    3 days ago

Best Coolio and not just because Michelle Pfeiffer [speaking of smokin'] is in it...

 
 
 
Wheel
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11  author  Wheel    3 days ago

Since we're talking about smoking I decided to brush the dust off this one from last year.

 
 
 
Dulay
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12  Dulay    3 days ago

 
 
 
Wheel
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12.1  author  Wheel  replied to  Dulay @12    3 days ago

Loved these guys since I went 1/2's with my roommate to buy their first album. We'd never heard of them and were curious so we split the cost. Never laughed so hard in my life!

 
 
 
Kavika
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13  Kavika     3 days ago

Shotgunning weed in Nam. 

512

 
 
 
Wheel
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14  author  Wheel    2 days ago

Trying to herd the cats back on topic, here's Leon Russel.  One of the best concerts I ever attended was a Leon Russel concert.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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15  Split Personality    23 hours ago

We went to a small theatre concert to see Blue Oyster Cult,

but the warm up act stole the show.  Props, women and showmanship.

Kid Creole and the Coconuts are still going strong today.

 
 
 
Wheel
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15.1  author  Wheel  replied to  Split Personality @15    17 hours ago

Whoa.  1 1/2 hours.  I'll have to watch that later.  Watched the first 10 mins or so. Looks like a hell of a show.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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15.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Wheel @15.1    17 hours ago

I just remember horns, lots of horns and the girls wearing the coconut "bras", lol.

And the palm trees of course !

 
 
 
Wheel
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16  author  Wheel    17 hours ago

Well, where there's fire there's smoke, or something.

 
 
 
Wheel
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17  author  Wheel    17 hours ago

Smoky old bars count too.

 
 
 
Wheel
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18  author  Wheel    17 hours ago

These dancers earn their pay.