How To Stage a Coup in 7 Easy Steps

  
By:  sister-mary-agnes-ample-bottom  •  2 weeks ago  •  276 comments

How To Stage a Coup in 7 Easy Steps
“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.” -Donald Trump

In his novel 1984 , George Orwell wrote, “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

In 2019, Trump said , "Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.”

What follows is pretty much common sense couping, but this guy explains it better than I ever could.

1.  Make sure that you are or can be, in principle, supported by a large fraction of the population and political elites.

2. Establish a network of high-placed co-conspirators that would share the same goals and trust each other, while evading state security. Without such participants, this would not be a coup.

3.  Obtain covert control over elite military units and, ideally, police and state security (so that they are ready to follow your orders when necessary). If the military simply stays neutral, this is not a military coup.

4.  Get foreign support, or at least make sure you will not be attacked by the world powers. Getting explicit foreign support, especially weapons and large amounts of money, can be risky as this would put your motives in doubt and undermine your standing in the country.

5.  Identify your main political opponents and their support networks. Figure out how they can be neutralized.

6.  Obtain control over some mass media, ideally in advance, to ensure reasonable coverage of your actions. Prepare to counter aggressive propaganda. Don't put much faith in your own aggressive propaganda - this often backfires.

7.  Identify your weak points and protect them. Family and friends. Personal security. Skeletons in your closet. If you lose support of the people (say, due to brutality of your action), your chances of staying in power are low. Other weak points may include your finances, foreign trade sanctions, aggression by neighboring countries, economic instability, etc. 

Does any of this sound familiar?  Of course it does.  It's been in your face for the last 3 years.  

Or perhaps this is a coup by proxy...

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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    2 weeks ago

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JohnRussell
1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 weeks ago

Although he has staged a cult-coup in the United States and implanted an army of lemmings aka deplorables to worship him , I think he just fell into it by being himself. There have always been those who worship a rich blowhard. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2  XDm9mm    2 weeks ago

Thanks Sis...

You laid out the Democrat play book that has been operational for the last 6+ years.

Orwell was so correct.   

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  XDm9mm @2    2 weeks ago
You laid out the Democrat play book that has been operational for the last 6+ years

Dog-do!  Did Obama strike you as a person with a severe case of dictator envy?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1    2 weeks ago
Did Obama strike you as a person with a severe case of dictator envy?

Hell no.  He just denigrated this country that he promised to "fundamentally transform".   But to what?

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

512

That..

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.2    2 weeks ago
That..

Your pathetic bullshit is getting old Frost.

Obama had the trillions of "stimulus" money pushing his ass ("I guess those shovel ready jobs weren't so shovel ready" snicker, snicker), "If you like your plan, you can keep you plan. Period", If you like you doctor, you can keep your doctor.  Period.", "Americans will save an average of $2500.00 a year." (bullshit).   Obama enjoyed near zero interest rates for essentially his entire tenure in office. Obama enjoyed the FED pumping 85 billion dollars a month into the financial system.  The market rebounded great due to those pushes.  Once the FED stopped those programs, the market essentially flatlined until the ELECTION of Trump...  hell, the man wasn't even sworn in and the market responded great.

Bring something fresh to the table and we can chat.  The bullshit memes you post are tired and have been abused.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1    2 weeks ago

Our current 'president is guilty of all the 7 deadlies:

Lust

Gluttony

Greed

Sloth

Wrath

Envy

Pride

 
 
 
cobaltblue
2.1.5  cobaltblue  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.3    2 weeks ago
Bring something fresh to the table and we can chat

Okay, that's fuckin' hilarious!!! Oh puh-leeze! Frost brings facts in response to your oh-so-deep comment and ... oh wait. I get it. Facts have a 'best by' date. 

Nope. I can't even spin that. Oh jeez, that's hilarious ... 

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.6  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.3    2 weeks ago
Your pathetic bullshit is getting old Frost.

It's the truth, deal with it. 

Obama had the trillions of "stimulus" money pushing his ass

Which propped up the economy so it could recover. It worked too. 

You can spin and dance around the numbers all you want, at the end of the day, Obama took over a collapsed economy and walked out of office with a thriving economy. PERIOD. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.7  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.6    2 weeks ago
You can spin and dance around the numbers all you want, at the end of the day, Obama took over a collapsed economy and walked out of office with a thriving economy. PERIOD. 

Yes he did...   not due to anything he did.  What was accomplished was done by the FED and business recovering.  When Obama left office, the economy was essentially back to where it was just prior to his taking office.  So, what great strides and increases did he accomplish.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  cobaltblue @2.1.5    2 weeks ago
Facts have a 'best by' date.  Nope. I can't even spin that. Oh jeez, that's hilarious ... 

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MrFrost
2.1.9  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.7    2 weeks ago
not due to anything he did.

So then trump has done nothing to help the economy either then...good to know. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.10  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.7    2 weeks ago

In a nutshell...

The  economic policy of the Barack Obama administration  was characterized by moderate tax increases on higher income Americans. It was designed to fund  health care reform , reduce the  federal budget deficit , and decrease  income inequality . His first term (2009–2013) included measures designed to address the  Great Recession  and  Subprime mortgage crisis , which began in 2007. These included a major stimulus package, banking regulation, and comprehensive healthcare reform. As the economy improved and job creation continued during his second term (2013–2017), the  Bush tax cuts  were allowed to expire for the highest income taxpayers and a spending sequester (cap) was implemented, to further reduce the deficit back to typical historical levels. Corporate profits and the stock market reached record levels in 2010 and 2013 respectively, while inflation and interest rates remained near record low levels. [1] [2] [3]

President Obama's first inauguration was held during the depths of the Great Recession . The situation was dire; the economy had lost nearly 3.6 million jobs in 2008 and was shedding jobs at a nearly 800,000 per month rate when he took office. During September 2008, several major financial institutions either collapsed, were forced into mergers, or were bailed-out by the government. The financial system was nearly frozen, as the equivalent of a bank run on the essentially unregulated, non-depository shadow banking system was in-progress. [23] Ben Bernanke later stated that 12 of the 13 largest U.S. financial institutions were at risk of failure during the crisis. [24]

The Bush Administration had passed the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program in October 2008 and provided enormous loan guarantees to help strengthen the banks as late as January 2009 during the transition period. Further, the U.S. Federal Reserve under Ben Bernanke was taking a series of innovative emergency steps to inject money into the financial system, acting in their role as the "lender of last resort." Obama and Bernanke agreed that further action was also needed by Congress to help boost the economy beyond Wall Street. [1] [25]

Stimulus [ edit ]

On February 17, 2009, Obama signed into law the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 , a $831 billion economic stimulus package aimed at helping the economy recover from the deepening worldwide recession . [26] The act increased federal spending by $573 billion [27] for health care, infrastructure, education and social benefits, with the remainder used for tax relief [28] — including a $116 billion income tax cut that benefited 95% of working families. [29] Democrats overwhelmingly supported this measure, while only a few Senate Republicans supported the law.

The CBO estimated ARRA would positively impact GDP and employment, with primary impact between 2009 and 2011. It projected an increase in the GDP of between 1.4 and 3.8% by late 2009, 1.1 and 3.3% by late 2010, and 0.4 and 1.3% by late 2011, as well as a decrease of between zero and 0.2% beyond 2014. [30] The impact to employment would be an increase of 0.8 million to 2.3 million by last-2009, an increase of 1.2 million to 3.6 million by late 2010, an increase of 0.6 million to 1.9 million by late 2011, and declining increases in subsequent years as the U.S. labor market reaches nearly full employment, but never negative. [30] The CBO estimated that enacting the bill would increase federal budget deficits by $185 billion over the remaining months of fiscal year 2009, $399 billion in 2010, and $134 billion in 2011, or $787 billion over the 2009–2019 period. [31]

The Congressional Budget Office and a broad range of economists credit Obama's stimulus plan for economic growth. [32] [33] The CBO's final analysis in February 2015 found that ARRA provided substantial improvement to GDP growth and employment. [34]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_Barack_Obama_administration

(Sorry for the slight derail Sis)

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1.11  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.10    2 weeks ago
(Sorry for the slight derail Sis)

Derail?  What derail?  

 
 
 
cobaltblue
2.1.12  cobaltblue  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.11    2 weeks ago
What derail

That's what I asked. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1.13  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  cobaltblue @2.1.12    2 weeks ago
That's what I asked.

I only steal from the best.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.1.14  Ronin2  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1    2 weeks ago

Mr "I have a cell phone and pen". No, he doesn't strike me as the dictator type at all. jrSmiley_98_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
WallyW
2.1.15  WallyW  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

Obama was an arrogant elitist Muslim worshiping asshole.who sold out to Iran

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
2.1.16  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  WallyW @2.1.15    2 weeks ago
Obama was an arrogant elitist Muslim worshiping asshole.who sold out to Iran

"arrogant elitist" aka "Uppity" in the minds of those obsessed with hate for the black man who dared win two Presidential elections.

"Muslim worshiping" - Nope. He proclaimed his Christian faith, attended a Christian church and raised his daughters as Christians. Claiming he was a Muslim just exposes the complete lack of any intelligence on the part of the ones making the claim. It would be akin to claiming the Pope is an atheist.

"asshole" - your personal opinion and worth no more than the other 7 billion opinions on this planet.

"who sold out to Iran" - demonstrably false. The Iran deal was brokered by the P5+1 (the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council—the United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, France, and China—plus Germany) and the European Union. Trump backing out of the deal made all of us less safe.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.17  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.16    2 weeks ago

Wally had it right obummer proclaimed his Muslim faith we saw and know he was complete fucking phony asshole, every which way you look at it there’s no defense for him, and it became a joke that as long as Muslims weren’ hurt he didn’t give a shit about anybody.

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.18  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.14    2 weeks ago
Mr "I have a cell phone and pen"

Trump has a say-n-spell and a sharpie. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.19  MrFrost  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.17    2 weeks ago
proclaimed his Muslim faith

Actually he is a Christian, wished the country Merry Christmas every year. 

saw and know he was complete fucking phony asshole

You want phony? Look at trumps hair, his wife, (all three of them), his bank account, his military service, his IQ, his college transcripts, his charity, etc etc etc.....everything about trump is phony. 

and it became a joke that as long as Muslims weren’ hurt he didn’t give a shit about anybody.

It was a joke alright, but certainly not true. Trump just shit on the Kurds, our allies, and now ISIS will be expanding their operations, thanks to trump. And who was it that was insisting MBS had nothing to do with the Khashoggi murder? I guess by your logic, trump is a Muslim. 

You have a super day now!!! 

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.20  MrFrost  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.17    2 weeks ago
Wally had it right obummer

Sad, 8 years in office and still can't spell, "Obama". 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1.21  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.17    2 weeks ago
obummer proclaimed his Muslim faith...

He was a member of the Church of Christ from 1988 until 2008, and then joined the Southern Baptist community, of which he is still a member.  

I could be wrong, but I get the feeling he didn't exactly twirl your skirt up on a regular basis. 

 
 
 
charger 383
2.1.22  charger 383  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.20    2 weeks ago
Sad, 8 years in office and still can't spell, "Obama". 

some can't spell Trump now

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.23  MrFrost  replied to  charger 383 @2.1.22    2 weeks ago

some can't spell Trump now

I seem to get it done fairly easily. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.24  MrFrost  replied to  WallyW @2.1.15    2 weeks ago

Obama was an arrogant elitist Muslim worshiping asshole.who sold out to Iran

Trump is an arrogant elitist Muslim worshiping asshole.who sold out the Kurds. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
2.1.25  arkpdx  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.19    2 weeks ago

"actually he is a christian, wished the country merry christmas every year.actually he is a christian, wished the country merry christmas every year."

I wish people happy Hanukkah every year does that make me Jewish?

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.26  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.21    2 weeks ago

 No He wasn’t   He wasn’t a member of anything other than the I Hate America club.  And worked his way into the leader ship to become the worlds most infamous Islamic terrorist.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.27  Freedom Warrior  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.19    2 weeks ago

 No the actual part is that he was the worlds most infamous Islamic terrorist 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1.28  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.26    2 weeks ago
worked his way into the leader ship to become the worlds most infamous Islamic terrorist.

I can't wait to see the link you provide for that one.

 
 
 
charger 383
2.1.29  charger 383  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.23    2 weeks ago

you are smart, said as a complement 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.30  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.28    2 weeks ago

Sounds like you’re looking for sympathy

 
 
 
CB
2.1.31  CB   replied to  WallyW @2.1.15    2 weeks ago

WallyW, did President Obama end the recession? Yes or No. And, leave out the weasel words when or if you choose to answer, please.

 
 
 
CB
2.1.32  CB   replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.17    2 weeks ago

Hatred is a sickness. You should purge it. President Obama went to have many funerals on behalf of the office and random mass shootings?

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"The President reacts as John Brennan briefs him on the details of the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. The President later said during a TV interview that this was the worst day of his Presidency." White House/Pete Souza

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The picture speaks for itself along with its caption. Unless, you can find something to criticize about it, Freedom Warrior . . . .

 
 
 
CB
2.1.33  CB   replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.26    2 weeks ago

Continue in a delusion about Obama. Obama is getting on with his life! The good news: You will never see the Obama's begging in the streets. The bad news is you're stuck in a delusional cage, where the Obamas may still be in office!

 
 
 
CB
2.1.34  CB   replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.30    2 weeks ago

To me it comes off as she has expectation of receiving a link—from you, by golly!

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1.35  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.30    2 weeks ago
Sounds like you’re looking for sympathy

Sympathy?  I said this:

I can't wait to see the link you provide for that one.

...in response to this comment made by you:

and worked his way into the leader ship to become the worlds most infamous Islamic terrorist.

I don't always make the most sense in the world, but the fact that I am asking for a link to your silly assertion is pretty much in your face.  

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1.36  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.28    2 weeks ago

I can't wait to see the link you provide for that one.

You holding your breath for this one Sister?  I don't recommend it given FW track record in providing facts.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.37  Tessylo  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.36    2 weeks ago

Don't hold your breath waiting on facts or citations from FW

 
 
 
cobaltblue
2.1.38  cobaltblue  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.18    2 weeks ago
say-n-spell and a sharpie. 

Okay ... that made me snort laugh - hard!~ Damn you, good Mr. Frost. Damn you. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
2.1.39  cobaltblue  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.26    2 weeks ago
become the worlds most infamous Islamic terrorist.

Hmmm. World's most infamous. Funny, I've never even heard of it. You mean Trumplethinskin forgot to bring this up ... over and over again (as is his style)? No country has ever proclaimed that as far as I know. You mean the GOP was so inept that not only did they never report this and expound on it, there's was never even a mention of it on Fox. Was there? 

Just so I know you're not wrong, can you please link these very hard unfortunate set of facts that are so 'world infamous'? That would be nifty. Boy, the GOP have been resting on their laurels on this one. Aren't you mad that they never hit on this so hard that it would be on the credible news circuit? I could see maybe the National Enquirer making that a headline, but ... well ... you know. It is the Enquirer, after all. 

Thanks for your help, chum! I'll look for those credible links. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
2.1.40  cobaltblue  replied to  CB @2.1.31    2 weeks ago
weasel words when or if you choose to answer

Oh, pay no attention to Wally. He's a self-admitted "I just like seeing demmies cry" sort. His attempts on spin are admirable but he can't help but melt into what he perceives as insult and sarcasm. Kinda cute, actually. It makes me smile to read it. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.41  Tessylo  replied to  charger 383 @2.1.22    2 weeks ago

Most of us do know how to spell tRump correctly.  or plain old Rump.  Whichever you prefer.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.42  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.24    2 weeks ago

He'd sell his own mother for a buck.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.43  MrFrost  replied to  cobaltblue @2.1.38    2 weeks ago

Okay ... that made me snort laugh - hard!~ Damn you, good Mr. Frost. Damn you. 

<bows> ;) 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
2.1.44  cobaltblue  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.42    2 weeks ago
sell his own mother for a buck. 

Omigawd. I read that "buck" wrong. Althoooo ... he would sell his own mother for a "buck" with Ivanka. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.45  MrFrost  replied to  cobaltblue @2.1.44    2 weeks ago
for a "buck" with Ivanka. 

"Ivanka" AKA: "Princess Syphilis". 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
2.1.46  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.4    2 weeks ago

And so is every other politician.  What's your point?

 
 
 
Karri
2.1.47  Karri  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.17    2 weeks ago
proclaimed his Muslim faith

I don't recall that.  Could you please tell me when and where?  If possible, provide video.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.48  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Karri @2.1.47    2 weeks ago

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Freedom Warrior
2.1.49  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.35    2 weeks ago

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Freedom Warrior
2.1.50  Freedom Warrior  replied to  cobaltblue @2.1.39    2 weeks ago

 [Deleted]

 
 
 
cjcold
2.1.51  cjcold  replied to  cobaltblue @2.1.39    2 weeks ago

That will likely be a link to Townhall or Infowars (that's just how he rolls).

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.52  MrFrost  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.48    2 weeks ago

You make the claim, you provide the proof. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
2.1.53  cobaltblue  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.50    2 weeks ago
 Another person looking for sympathy 

Don't cry for me, Argentina. Why would I need sympathy? My life is happy and just dandy. Just provide a link that says President Obama worked his way into the leader ship to become the worlds most infamous Islamic terrorist.

I can't find it. I mean, if he's the WORLD'S most infamous Islamic terrorist, you'd think there'd be something about it. See, I don't think people who don't back up their claims, ridiculous or not, are telling the truth. For instance, if I said Freedom Warrior kills kittens and makes soup out of them and makes neighborhood children drink it, I'd have to prove it. If I say Freedom Warrior kills kittens and makes soup out of them and makes neighborhood children drink it and someone asks me to prove it via link from a newspaper or something, could I then say to them, "find it for yourself." What if it couldn't be found? Could I then say, "well, like I said, just find it for yourself." Does that make it true? Do you kill kittens and make soup out of them? 

This is what I used for a search: where was it said obama was the world's most infamous islamic terrorist. There was nothing. Nada. Zip. Goose egg. Wow. Not very infamousy.

That's what Trumpelthinskin does. Makes accusations as facts with nothing to back it up. Like President Obama tapping the Liar-In-Chief's phone and bugging his office. Lies. Pizzagate? Lies. The whistleblower is a democrat. Then he already knows who the whistleblower is ... why is he saying he wants to know who he/she is? 

Why is it so easy for people to lie and think they're not going to be caught? Maybe you should call Giuliani and ask him to represent you. You never know when you say something that isn't true about someone and they sue you for slander [or libel, since you wrote it]. It's a good bet you won't get sued, but I guess I wouldn't get sued for saying you kill kittens and make soup out of them.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
2.1.54  cobaltblue  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.36    2 weeks ago
I don't recommend it given FW track record in providing facts.

Oh goodness. That's rich, isn't it. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.1.55  Trout Giggles  replied to  cobaltblue @2.1.53    2 weeks ago
Why is it so easy for people to lie and think they're not going to be caught?

Arrogance

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.56  Freedom Warrior  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.52    2 weeks ago

Prove it

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.57  Freedom Warrior  replied to  cobaltblue @2.1.53    2 weeks ago

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CB
2.1.58  CB   replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.57    2 weeks ago

Tease?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.1.59  Trout Giggles  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.56    2 weeks ago

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cobaltblue
2.1.60  cobaltblue  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.57    2 weeks ago
I'll give you a hint where you can find it.

If you have to work that hard to find something about the worlds most infamous Islamic terrorist, then it's bullshit. I call your bullshit, and raise you your gibberish. Some worlds most infamous Islamic terrorist President Obama is. Doesn't come up on a simple Google search. Used the same where was it said obama was the world's most infamous islamic terrorist on Bing, Edge and Firefox. All zip. I don't want your hollow hints. Bullshit. That's all it is. Keep your hints in your bullshit closet. I don't want them. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
2.1.61  cobaltblue  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.59    2 weeks ago
Removed for context

[Deleted]

He's just some guy who believe conspiracy theories. This is such a conspiracy, that it's nowhere to be found. Impotent comments. Nothing there. Flaccid. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1.62  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.48    2 weeks ago
You can find it for yourself I don’t do that shit anymore.

It is your responsibility to back up your claims.  Without a reputable source, your words mean nothing.  Refusing to provide a reputable source, especially in the way you do it, implies shady intent.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.1.63  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.62    2 weeks ago

FW is supposedly this really brilliant guy....he should know the rules of Debate 101

 
 
 
cobaltblue
2.1.64  cobaltblue  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.63    2 weeks ago
supposedly this really brilliant guy

Uhhh ... okay. Says who? FW? Spare me. Kinda like Trumplethinskin saying he's bigly smart. Proof's in the puddin', isn't it? He either proves President Obama is the world's most infamous islamic terrorist or he's prone to using prevarication as way out of using any real intellect. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
2.1.65  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.63    2 weeks ago

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Freedom Warrior
2.1.66  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.59    2 weeks ago

Prove it

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.67  Freedom Warrior  replied to  cobaltblue @2.1.64    2 weeks ago

 I have some serious partying to do so you guys can hash it out among yourselves the bottom line is look up notorious look up Islamic and look up terrorist put them all together and you’ll find Obama  on the top of the heap.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.68  Freedom Warrior  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.65    2 weeks ago

removed for context

 
 
 
devangelical
2.1.69  devangelical  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.65    2 weeks ago

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CB
2.1.70  CB   replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.67    2 weeks ago

Yeah. Weak tease. Epic fail. "Just say no!"

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.71  Freedom Warrior  replied to  CB @2.1.70    one week ago

Go ahead...

 
 
 
CB
2.1.72  CB   replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.71    one week ago

No!

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.73  Freedom Warrior  replied to  CB @2.1.72    one week ago

Looks like people are afraid of what they might find

 
 
 
Dulay
2.1.74  Dulay  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.73    one week ago
Looks like people are afraid of what they might find

Well one thing they need not be afraid of finding is the link you posted that supports your claim that Barack Obama is 'the worlds most infamous Islamic terrorist'.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.75  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dulay @2.1.74    one week ago

I am going to assume you know that makes no sense.

 
 
 
Dulay
2.1.76  Dulay  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.75    one week ago

I can't understand it for you FW. 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.77  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dulay @2.1.76    one week ago

You can't understand it for you either.

 
 
 
Dulay
2.1.78  Dulay  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.77    one week ago

Since you didn't post anything to support your bullshit claim about Obama, there is no 'it' to understand FW. 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.79  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dulay @2.1.78    one week ago

Been there done that.  It's not like you give a fuck anyway.

 
 
 
Dulay
2.1.80  Dulay  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.79    one week ago
Been there done that.

No you didn't FW.. Why lie? 

It's not like you give a fuck anyway.

You're right. Your comments aren't worthy of my time. 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.81  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dulay @2.1.80    one week ago

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Dulay
2.1.82  Dulay  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.81    one week ago

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Freedom Warrior
2.1.83  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dulay @2.1.82    one week ago

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igknorantzrulz
2.1.84  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.83    one week ago

Do you feel you are in need of pointing out for our 'challenged'

moderators that which you determine is of worth, when you would/could create a War. Out of peace

i don't care who you are ,

as that's just wrong, and Everyone should be able to agree on certain expectations from our Commander and Chief 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
3  Dean Moriarty    2 weeks ago

Sounds like the deep states efforts to get rid of Trump in a nutshell. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.1  MrFrost  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    2 weeks ago

Sounds like the deep states efforts to get rid of Trump in a nutshell. 

You mean, if the deep state actually existed. It was "created" by trump so he had something to blame his failures on. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @3.1    2 weeks ago

I forgot who had mentioned the 'deep state' as in who to blame for all tRumps' messes and it was Stephen Miller, the architect of the humanitarian crisis at the southern border.

Deep state jrSmiley_44_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.2  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    2 weeks ago
Sounds like the deep states efforts to get rid of Trump in a nutshell.

More like a deep state of denial on your part.  Please tell me which of the seven steps above Trump has not delivered with gusto.

 
 
 
Ender
3.2.1  Ender  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.2    2 weeks ago

Sometimes I can get in a deep state, with some good weed.

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  Ender @3.2.1    2 weeks ago
with some good weed.

Get some of that El Chapo strain, good stuff....and you'll go WAY deep state.

 
 
 
CB
3.2.3  CB   replied to  MrFrost @3.2.2    2 weeks ago

Sounds like a "deep state" enough to cause one to sit there while the home is robbed. Near comatose.

 
 
 
Krishna
3.3  Krishna  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    2 weeks ago
Sounds like the deep states efforts to get rid of Trump in a nutshell. 

The "Deep State"?

Be afraid...be wery, wery afraid!

512

 
 
 
Krishna
3.3.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.3    2 weeks ago
Sounds like the deep states efforts to get rid of Trump in a nutshell. 

On second thought, despite excessive paranoia, there may not be anything to fear.

After all, there are ways people can protect themselves from the so-called, ahem, "Deep State":

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cobaltblue
3.3.2  cobaltblue  replied to  Krishna @3.3    2 weeks ago

Too friggin' funny!!! 

 
 
 
Krishna
3.4  Krishna  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    2 weeks ago
Sounds like the deep states efforts to get rid of Trump in a nutshell. 
On second thought, despite excessive paranoia, there may not be anything to fear. After all, there are ways people can protect themselves from the so-called, ahem, "Deep State":

Here's more information. In great detail!

With simple, easy to understand instructions! great for extreme paranoids..and simple people in general!

Check it out-- you'll be glad you did!

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LINK to original site -- More information than you'll ever need:

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Krishna
3.4.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.4    2 weeks ago
 
 
 
MrFrost
3.4.2  MrFrost  replied to  Krishna @3.4.1    2 weeks ago
Paperback

Should have released it with a tinfoil cover... ;)

 
 
 
cobaltblue
3.4.3  cobaltblue  replied to  Krishna @3.4    2 weeks ago
Check it out

Psssst ... I think I should run to Sam's and get a multiple pack of foil. Let's ask Sister if there's room in the budget; if not, I'll pay.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.4.4  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  cobaltblue @3.4.3    2 weeks ago
Psssst ... I think I should run to Sam's and get a multiple pack of foil. Let's ask Sister if there's room in the budget; if not, I'll pay.

I just stocked up.  Pantry room, last cabinet, top, middle, and bottom shelves.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
3.4.5  cobaltblue  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.4.4    2 weeks ago
I just stocked up

Girllllllll ... you're not just a looker. You're a thinker. A girl crush inducing thinker.

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.4.6  MrFrost  replied to  cobaltblue @3.4.5    2 weeks ago

Girllllllll ... you're not just a looker. You're a thinker. A girl crush inducing thinker.

Ok, so....just asking.....but if it goes down can I run the video camera? 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
3.4.7  cobaltblue  replied to  MrFrost @3.4.6    2 weeks ago
but if it goes down can I run the video camera?

Okay, second snort laugh. But if you make me pee, yer in trubble with a capital trub!

Since I'm a left leaner, I couldn't even get an audience with the Liar-In-Chief. Word on the улица is that he understands it's not free to pee and he's willing to платить чтобы играть. Some see peeing as a financial opportunity from the Traitor-In-Chief.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
3.4.8  cobaltblue  replied to  MrFrost @3.4.6    2 weeks ago
.but if it goes down

Oh ha ha. I see what you did there.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
3.4.9  cobaltblue  replied to  cobaltblue @3.4.7    2 weeks ago
Word on the улица is that he understands it's not free to pee and he's willing to платить чтобы играть.

Translation: Word on street is that he understand it's not free to pee and he's willing to pay to play."

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.4.10  MrFrost  replied to  cobaltblue @3.4.7    2 weeks ago
Some see peeing as a financial opportunity from the Traitor-In-Chief.

I ate asparagus last night, which is what I hope those russian hookers ate before their "encounter" with trumpy the pee boy. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.4.11  Tessylo  replied to  cobaltblue @3.4.9    2 weeks ago

That's why he likes everything golden, including his showers

 
 
 
Krishna
3.4.12  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.4.1    2 weeks ago
Or . . . you can just buy the book: Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie: Practical Mind Control Protection for Paranoids   Paperback

I just clicked on that link -- it's the wrong link. (It just goes back to this seed on NT-- instead it should go to the Amazon page that has that book for sale).

Here's the correct link.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
4  cobaltblue    2 weeks ago

I don't understand. Trumplethinskin screams "fake news, fake news" but he could prove every reporter wrong if he ponied up the documents he claims he has that will make him innocent. Those that have nothing to hide, hide nothing. He fights to have to his taxes kept secret despite offering them in return for something [see adjoining comment to this one.] If I was innocent, if I was falsely accused of something, I would hand over those documents. If the Ukraine conversation was perfect, then I'd release the whole 38 minute conversation. I would take everything out of that secret server and pony them up. Then I would demand an apology. The Traitor-In-Chief wants an apology, but he divulges nothing that could prove his honesty, integrity and innocence. Wouldn't that be grand if he turned over documents that could prove his innocence and he could show the world he's not the most ridiculous president in history? Show them everything and prove to everyone once and for all that he has nothing to hide. If it's a witchhunt, then provide documentation that would prove it so. But he doesn't. And he knows his low-IQ supporters won't say to him, "prove your innocence so we can get back to running the country." So either his supporters are slow-witted or they know he's a lyin' POS. How many of his supporters are aiders and abettors and how many are just stupid. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
4.1  cobaltblue  replied to  cobaltblue @4    2 weeks ago

2016:

He has claimed that ongoing IRS audits prevent him from doing so, even though such audits wouldn't restrict anyone from publishing their returns. And Trump is mandated to be audited during the rest of his time in office. White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer reiterated Trump's stance. "It's the same thing that was discussed during the campaign trail -- the president is under audit. It's a routine one that continues," Spicer said. "Nothing has changed." But Trump's public statements about his returns have shifted subtly over the years. At first, Trump was open about wanting to release his returns. He began citing the ongoing audit as a reason not to release them in early 2016. Here's a selection of remarks Trump has made:

MAY 20, 2014: More than a year before he announced his presidential campaign, Trump told an Irish television station that he would "absolutely" release his tax returns if he entered the race. "If I decide to run for office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely," he said. "And I would love to do that."

FEBRUARY 25, 2015: Trump told radio host Hugh Hewitt that he would "certainly show tax returns if it was necessary."

OCTOBER 4, 2015: Trump said in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos that he was considering releasing his tax returns. "I'm thinking about maybe when we find out the true story on Hillary's emails," he said of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

JANUARY 24, 2016: Trump told NBC's Chuck Todd that he had "very big returns." Asked if he would release them publicly, Trump said, "we're working on that now." "I have very big returns, as you know, and I have everything all approved and very beautiful and we'll be working that over in the next period of time, Chuck," Trump said. "Absolutely."

FEBRUARY 11, 2016: Trump appeared again on Hewitt's radio program and said of his returns, "we'll get them out at some point, probably."

FEBRUARY 24, 2016: Trump told CNN's Anderson Cooper that he has a "very complex system of taxes." "We'll make a determination over the next couple of months," he said. "It's very complicated."

FEBRUARY 25, 2016:  Trump tweeted that he's already filed public financial disclosure forms that are "great." He said that tax returns "have 0 to do w/ someone's net worth." The disclosure forms do give wide estimates of asset value. But tax returns would reveal much more. Even the top two pages of his 1040 and Schedule A, for example, would say how much taxable income he made, how much he paid in taxes, his charitable contributions and whether he paid tax to any foreign governments.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump: Just for your info, tax returns have 0 to do w/ someone’s net worth. I have already filed my financial statements w/ FEC. They are great! 11:22 AM - Feb 25, 2016

During a CNN-Telemundo debate later that day, Trump said he wanted to release his tax returns, but could not while he's under audit. "I've had it for years. I get audited. And obviously if I'm being audited, I'm not going to release a return," he said. "As soon as the audit is done, I love it."

FEBRUARY 27, 2016:  Trump revisits the audit argument on Twitter. "Tax experts throughout the media agree that no sane person would give their tax returns during an audit," he said. "After the audit, no problem!"

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump: Tax experts throughout the media agree that no sane person would give their tax returns during an audit. After the audit, no problem!

Trump tells the Associated Press that his taxes are under "routine audit" and he will release them when the audit is done. "I would release my tax returns when audit is complete, not after election!" he tweeted about the interview.

Donald J. Trump: ✔ @realDonaldTrump: In interview I told @AP that my taxes are under routine audit and I would release my tax returns when audit is complete, not after election!

SEPTEMBER 27, 2016: Trump says during the first presidential debate that his taxes will be released once an audit is finished."I don't mind releasing. I'm under a routine audit, and it will be released. As soon as the audit's finished, it will be released," he said.

OCTOBER 4, 2016: Mike Pence says during a vice presidential debate with Democratic candidate Tim Kaine that Trump has not "broken his promise" about releasing tax returns. "Look, Donald Trump has filed over 100 pages of financial disclosure, which is what the law requires," Pence said. He added that trump is "going to release his tax returns when the audit is over."

 
 
 
cobaltblue
4.1.1  cobaltblue  replied to  cobaltblue @4.1    2 weeks ago

2017:

JANUARY 22, 2017: White House senior adviser Kellyanne Conway said on ABC's "This Week" that "the White House response is that he's not going to release his tax returns." She added: "We litigated this all through the election. People didn't care."

JANUARY 23, 2017: Conway clarifies her comments with a tweet: "On taxes, answers (& repeated questions) are same from campaign: POTUS is under audit and will not release until that is completed."

Kellyanne Conway ✔ @KellyannePolls: On taxes, answers (& repeated questions) are same from campaign: POTUS is under audit and will not release until that is completed. #nonews

APRIL 16, 2017: A day after protestors called on Trump to release his tax returns, the president derided the demonstrators on Twitter. "I did what was an almost an impossible thing to do for a Republican-easily won the Electoral College!" he tweeted. "Now Tax Returns are brought up again?"

APRIL 17, 2017: Spicer, the White House press secretary, says Trump's tax returns are still under audit. "It's the same thing that was discussed during the campaign trail, the president is under audit. It's a routine one that continues," he said. Asked in a later exchange if we can assume Trump will never release his returns, Spicer said he would "get back to you on that."

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.2  XDm9mm  replied to  cobaltblue @4    2 weeks ago
I don't understand.

You could have stopped right there CB!!  

Seriously, what is the fascination with the tax returns of Donald Trump.   Other than the tax departments and my accountants no one get my tax returns.  It's as simple as that.

Hell, all I do is a Financial Disclosure Form with the organization that holds my clearance.  And I'll tell you, that FDF has a shit load more information than any tax return ever will.

As to "taking everything out of that secret server"....  yeah, great way to let other global leaders know that whet they say will be held in confidence.   Do you REALLY think that's a good idea?

 
 
 
cobaltblue
4.2.1  cobaltblue  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2    2 weeks ago
what is the fascination with the tax returns of Donald Trump.

He's a liar. That is just one example of his constant lies and his "fuck you" to his supporters. He's called his supporters stupid from his "I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue" and you don't seem to get it. He's spoken multiple times, on audio and video tape, how he lusts after his daughter. Mexico hasn't paid for the wall. You don't seem to give a shit he cannot be trusted by the American people, cannot be trusted by our American allies, and he's a fuckin' nut. Jeez louise, is the fact that his supporters want to believe he makes demmies cry worth losing their self-respect, their dignity, their honor, their accountability to their country? That's a damn high price to pay if you ask me. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. He's calling you stupid, you know. Every time he's on the news and calls it a witchhunt but offers up nothing to prove it, he's calling you all stupid knowing you'll believe his bullshit. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
4.2.2  cobaltblue  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2    2 weeks ago
yeah, great way to let other global leaders know that whet they say will be held in confidence.

There are four different servers, each with a distinct function. 

The system where the transcript was reportedly stored is for transcripts in which leaders discuss highly classified information, such as covert operations. They can only be accessed with a code word, and a senior White House official must request the transfer of the document to this system, according to current and former administration officials.

To transfer a call from the normal storage system to the National Security Council’s code-word-protected network, a senior White House official – someone as high as the chief of staff or the national security adviser – must make a formal written request to do so, according to two people who worked with memos of calls with foreign leaders.

Let’s pause to take stock. Trump pressured a foreign leader to assist in a political scheme intended to keep the Republican in power. It wasn’t long before White House officials realized the president had gone way over the line. To cover-up Trump’s abuse, they misused a tightly controlled computer system to hide the details of the Republican’s conversation.

It’s against this backdrop that Trump claims to have  no idea   why anyone would see the phone meeting as anything but “nice,” “honorable,” “legal,” and “good.”

The absurdity of such assertions notwithstanding, there are all kinds of relevant questions in need of answers. For example, who, specifically, directed officials to hide the conversation on the code-word-protected server? Who had that authority?

According to the intelligence community whistleblower, this wasn’t an isolated incident. How many other transcripts were improperly buried on the server?

Cite

Would you think it proper if the democratic candidate asked during a rally "I would love someone to investigate Trump's missing emails from a private server; someone like, I don't know ... Russia ???" Do you think that would be a good thing to do? 

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.2.3  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2    2 weeks ago
Seriously, what is the fascination with the tax returns of Donald Trump. 

Personally, I don't give a shit, but he swore up and down he would release them after he was in office. He also said that he cannot release them when being audited, which is a lie. He demanded everyone else running in 2016 release their taxes, then waked back his promise to present his. He is a conman and a liar. 

In any case, nothing in the constitution says he must release his tax returns to the public, just like there is nothing in the constitution requiring a vote regarding the impeachment inquiry. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.2.4  XDm9mm  replied to  cobaltblue @4.2.2    2 weeks ago
"I would love someone to investigate Trump's missing emails from a private server; someone like, I don't know ... Russia ???" Do you think that would be a good thing to do? 

President Trump doesn't have a "private server", that was one Hillary Clinton.  The servers that Trump uses are actually US Government owned and operated.  I'd say that's a big difference.

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  cobaltblue @4.2.2    2 weeks ago

They're still looking into Hillary's e-mails or should I say again?

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Tessylo
4.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.4    2 weeks ago

tRump doesn't use an unsecured phone.  Never has.  

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.2.7  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @4.2.3    2 weeks ago
just like there is nothing in the constitution requiring a vote regarding the impeachment inquiry. 

Very true.  Just all the precedents that have been the guides previously.

I guess you're fine with secret testimony being used to generate secret votes to overturn an election right?  

Maybe the Democrats in congress have to do everything in secrecy since the previous three attempts at passing articles of impeachment failed in the house.

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.2.8  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.7    2 weeks ago
I guess you're fine with secret testimony being used to generate secret votes to overturn an election right?  

They cannot overturn an election that was certified, that's nothing but a right wing talking point. Like saying that the FBI investigating a potential crime is a coup attempt. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.2.9  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.7    2 weeks ago

Maybe the Democrats in congress have to do everything in secrecy since the previous three attempts at passing articles of impeachment failed in the house.

Republicans are fine with a great deal of secrecy and behind the scenes BS. Merrick Garland comes to mind. 

 
 
 
katrix
4.2.10  katrix  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.4    2 weeks ago
The servers that Trump uses are actually US Government owned and operated. 

Trump doesn't use email, from what I've heard. He's pretty incompetent when it comes to learning anything new. Plus he doesn't want the transparency (which is why he screeches so much when anyone "leaks" things he's said on the phone).

He uses Twitter, and those servers are NOT US Government owned and operated. Surely you knew that?  Also, it doesn't seem like he's following the Records Management Act about how he's treating those tweets - which ARE Federal records. But that's OK since he's not Hillary - only she has to follow records management guidelines and laws, the GOP doesn't (and they don't when it comes to emails either, but again, that's just fine with the hypocrites who support Trump).

We need to investigate whether he's following the FMA when it comes to his tweets. Lock him up!

 
 
 
cobaltblue
4.2.11  cobaltblue  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.4    2 weeks ago
The servers that Trump uses are actually US Government owned and operated.

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Part of the problem with this clumsy effort at gaslighting is that his White House has already released a rough transcript of the call, and we’ve all seen its devastating contents . Another part of the problem is that even Trump’s own aides disagreed with his ridiculous assertions. [Emphasis mine.]

In the aftermath of Trump pressing his Ukrainian counterpart to help with his political scheme, “the red flags began to go up” at the White House. As the New York Times added overnight, “The alarm among officials who heard the exchange led to an extraordinary effort to keep too many more people from learning about it.”

That included, as the Wall Street Journal reported , the use of a computer server reserved for highly classified and sensitive secrets.

A highly secure computer system where aides to President Trump reportedly stashed the details of his call with Ukraine’s leader is so secretive that even top White House national-security aides don’t have regular access, according to former officials familiar with its operation.

It is the most tightly controlled of at least four different computer systems used by the National Security Council staff, they said, and contains the most precious of American secrets: U.S. covert actions in other countries and counterintelligence probes aimed at finding spies within.

The former officials – some of whom worked for Democratic President Obama and some for Republican Mr. Trump – expressed surprise and dismay at reports that White House aides used the system to try to “lock down” details of Mr. Trump’s call with Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky.

It’s worth pausing to appreciate the irony of the circumstances: three years after the political world’s obsession with a separate Hillary Clinton computer server helped put Donald Trump in power, the White House is confronting a scandal over a separate computer server.

From article entitled  Irony Lives: Trump White House faces scandal over separate server

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
4.2.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  cobaltblue @4.2.11    2 weeks ago
It is the most tightly controlled of at least four different computer systems used by the National Security Council staff, they said, and contains the most precious of American secrets: U.S. covert actions in other countries and counterintelligence probes aimed at finding spies within.
So, be that as it may, the "system" isn't new and exclusive to the Trump administration it sounds like to me. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.2.13  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2    2 weeks ago
Other than the tax departments and my accountants no one get my tax returns.

Then I'll assume you are driving a really groovy skateboard and living in a box under the 3rd Street bridge.  

 
 
 
cobaltblue
4.2.14  cobaltblue  replied to  katrix @4.2.10    2 weeks ago
Lock him up!

Lock him up, lock him up, lock him up!!! I find it funny the Traitor-In-Chief has the temerity and audacity to call the whistleblowers traitors. What a stupid fuck that works his stupidity magic on his most stupid supporters. He's been calling them stupid from the get-go and they don't get it. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
4.2.15  cobaltblue  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.12    2 weeks ago
So, be that as it may, the "system" isn't new and exclusive to the Trump administration it sounds like to me.

You're right. Those four servers have always been in place. Each has a differing function. 

"The transcript [of the call] was loaded into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature," the complaint notes.

Steven Aftergood, director of the Project Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists, told Motherboard that putting these records on this system "signifies an awareness in the White House that this was not a 'normal' conversation."

"What was the nature of that sensitivity? The clear implication is that the White House understood that the president's remarks could be legally and politically problematic," he said. "There was no other classified 'factual' material in the transcript that would justify a move to a more secure server."

Specifically, the transcript was placed into a computer system managed directly by the National Security Council (NSC) Directorate for Intelligence Programs, which is reserved for so-called "codeword-level" intelligence. Motherboard spoke to four former members of the NSC for previous presidential administrations to learn more about what the system is, what it's used for, and who can access it. Each of them was shocked that the Trump administration used the codeword system for a presidential phone call.

This system is used for the highest-level of classified intelligence, a level beyond "top secret" that is accessible only on a need-to-know basis to specific members of the NSC and intelligence community. And that fact has raised questions as to why the Trump administration would use such a highly-secure, secretive server to store what Trump has called an entirely appropriate conversation .

Cite

 
 
 
CB
4.2.16  CB   replied to  cobaltblue @4.2.1    2 weeks ago

You're a fresh voice in these discussions. Welcome. Donald Trump is mesmerizing, despite the strong fact that he is being exposed everyday. What we are doing is having an impact. The defenders of Donald don't like to admit it and make choose not to admit it; but, keep hitting 'em right between the eyes (in the same spot) with facts and figures and good old-fashioned commonsense!

These conservatives want to win with Donald Trump. They have to have it repeated demonstrated to them that the cost to liberty is too high; that it is not cheaper to keep him!

 
 
 
CB
4.2.17  CB   replied to  MrFrost @4.2.3    2 weeks ago

My friend, there is something (1930s) in tax policy which states Trump "shall" give over his taxes to the House Ways and Means Committee Chair. I readily agree that a direct sharing of tax information for "gawking" sake is not fair to the man. However, if the committee should find a crime or a misdemeanor, . . . . 

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.2.18  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.6    2 weeks ago

I mean tRump doesn't use a secured phone.  

 
 
 
CB
4.2.19  CB   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.12    2 weeks ago

That's not 'cover' you can draw comfort from. Abuse, contamination, and corruption are not good to associate with the most precious of American secrets!

 
 
 
Dulay
4.2.20  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.7    2 weeks ago
I guess you're fine with secret testimony being used to generate secret votes to overturn an election right?   Maybe the Democrats in congress have to do everything in secrecy since the previous three attempts at passing articles of impeachment failed in the house.

Grand Juries always work in secret. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.3  JohnRussell  replied to  cobaltblue @4    2 weeks ago

Yes, but he makes liberals cry.  All else is forgiven. th?id=OIP.H-9PFxmk8m2YQGaVii5d-gHaGC&pid

 
 
 
CB
4.4  CB   replied to  cobaltblue @4    2 weeks ago

I agree with 99.99 of your comment. I will resist one sentence, "low-IQ supporters" for such people are supportive voters in all politics. However, I am sick and tired of Donald Trump's ability to make intelligent people perform poorly, and to push false narratives (spin) and disinformation, simply in an effort to win for winning sake.

Well said all around, cobaltblue.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
4.4.1  cobaltblue  replied to  CB @4.4    2 weeks ago
I will resist one sentence, "low-IQ supporters" for such people are supportive voters in all politics

You're right. I should have said "low SIQ supporters." Social Intelligence Quotient. Socially inept people are now emboldened by the Liar-In-Chief's hateful and divisive rhetoric, so civility has gone out the window. Their pretense of not 'noticing' that Trump is melting down in front of us is alarming to me. But they don't care. 

I've said on here previously that Trump's high SIQ supporters have jumped ship. They thought he'd bring about change [in a good way]. At the other site, the day after the election, I wrote an article congratulating the right, saying I hoped I was wrong about my initial impression and I was anxiously awaiting to see how matters panned out. I believe there were people that thought he could help. But those right leaners have long ago jumped ship. He's not fooled them. They saw his atrocious behavior was a pox on all of us. What you have left are two groups of supporters. There's the "he makes demmies cry" group. They don't care if Trump calls them stupid in a way he thinks they won't understand. They don't care if Trumplethinskin poops on their forehead. If he makes "demmies cry", then self-respect, pride in country, honor and integrity matters not a whit. Not even an iota of whit. The second group are thinly veiled racists. To them, MAGA means "make America white again" while to us, MAGA means "my attorney got arrested." 

 
 
 
CB
4.4.2  CB   replied to  cobaltblue @4.4.1    one week ago

I just read this Saturday night late! HA!

 
 
 
MrFrost
5  MrFrost    2 weeks ago
1.  Make sure that you are or can be, in principle, supported by a large fraction of the population and political elites.

Yep, this is why trump put's loyalty above EVERYTHING else. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
5.1  cobaltblue  replied to  MrFrost @5    2 weeks ago
loyalty above EVERYTHING else. 

Unfortunately, he'd throw his grandmother under the bus. He demands loyalty but never gives loyalty. Hell, given all the bullshit he's spoonfed his supporters, he'd throw them under the bus as well. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  cobaltblue @5.1    2 weeks ago
Unfortunately, he'd throw his grandmother under the bus.

Huh??!!!!! I was told she died jumping Harley's....but they saved the baby. 

He demands loyalty but never gives loyalty.

Yep, that's because His Orangeness literally thinks he is the center of the universe, so everyone owes him, and he doesn't owe anyone anything. 

Hell, given all the bullshit he's spoonfed his supporters, he'd throw them under the bus as well. 

A spot on meme just for you Sunshine.. :)

512

 
 
 
cobaltblue
5.1.2  cobaltblue  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.1    2 weeks ago
.but they saved the baby. 

What??!? I thought a dingo ate the baby

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

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cobaltblue
5.1.4  cobaltblue  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.3    2 weeks ago

Wait a minute. Didn't the Liar-In-Chief say he knew more than the generals? Didn't he say that only he could solve our problems? Could he have been ... I don't know ...  lying??!?

But when Trump said, “I am your voice,” the delegates on the convention floor roared their approval. When he said, “I alone can fix it,” they shouted their approbation. The crowd peppered his speech with chants of “USA!” and “Lock her up!” and “Build the wall!” and “Trump!” It booed on cue, and cheered when prompted. It seemed, in fact, to chafe—eager to turn a made-for-TV speech into an interactive rally, and frustrated by Trump’s determination to stay on script. Not every delegate cheered; some sat stiffly in their seats. But there was no question that the great bulk of the delegates on the floor were united behind Trump—and ready to trust him.

The most striking aspect of his speech wasn’t his delivery, even though his tone often strayed over the line, from emphatic to strident. It wasn’t the specific policies he outlined, long fixtures of his stump speech. It was the extraordinary spectacle of a man standing on a podium, elevated above the surrounding crowd, telling the millions of Americans who were watching that he, alone, could solve their problems.

And the crowd cheered.

Cite

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  cobaltblue @5.1.4    2 weeks ago

Amazing how his supporters go for spectacle over substance

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.6  MrFrost  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.3    2 weeks ago

So you think it's ok to blame the people with the most experience? In every place I have ever worked, it's usually the inexperienced guy that made the most mistakes. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  cobaltblue @5.1.4    2 weeks ago
Didn't he say that only he could solve our problems?

Weird how the right wing suddenly forgets that he said that shit. But my favorite one? 

"I know more about drone technology, I think, than anyone..." 

In his entire business career, I have never once heard him even mention drones, but he knows more than anyone... I damn near pissed myself laughing. The sad thing is that his supporters believe him. 

It's too stupid to make it up. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  cobaltblue @5.1.2    2 weeks ago
I thought a dingo ate the baby

Well played. Was that Sigourney Weaver? 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
5.1.9  cobaltblue  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.8    2 weeks ago
Sigourney Weaver

I had to look. Apparently not. Teri Austin maybe? 

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CB
5.1.10  CB   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.3    2 weeks ago
Yet they blame all of America's problems on Donald Trump Who has been in office for only 3 years.

Well, that is a known problem for fake demagogic demigods. Lying for pleasure for three years starting or continuing on his inauguration day tends to set the stage for a bad first impression.

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.11  MrFrost  replied to  cobaltblue @5.1.9    2 weeks ago

I think you're right.. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.6    2 weeks ago

Obviously the point went right over all of your heads. If so much is broken, these people "served" for many years and they (the problems) still seem to exist. Why couldn't they fix them under their respective watches if they are soooo experienced?

 
 
 
cobaltblue
5.1.13  cobaltblue  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.12    2 weeks ago
Why couldn't they fix them under their respective watches

Like why the Liar-In-Chief couldn't get the wall done in his first two years when he had both Congress and Senate? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  cobaltblue @5.1.13    2 weeks ago

'Like why the Liar-In-Chief couldn't get the wall done in his first two years when he had  both  Congress and Senate?'

Even with Mexico paying?1169415738517360640-png__700.jpg

They weren't on board with the moat with the alligators and snakes and sharks with frikking laser beams on their heads.  

 
 
 
cobaltblue
5.1.15  cobaltblue  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.14    2 weeks ago
weren't on board with the moat with the alligators and snakes and sharks with frikking laser beams

HA!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  cobaltblue @5.1.13    2 weeks ago

But Trump............jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.17  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  cobaltblue @5.1.13    2 weeks ago
Like why the Liar-In-Chief couldn't get the wall done in his first two years when he had both Congress and Senate? 

Like Mr. Obama did with immigration reform? Like that?

 
 
 
cobaltblue
5.1.18  cobaltblue  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.17    2 weeks ago
Like Mr. Obama did with immigration reform?

Yes, just like that, but the difference being that President Obama didn't blame the other party and create divisiveness.

President  Donald Trum p will enter office having made many promises on immigration. Trump will inherit the same outdated immigration system and will be asked to respond to the same questions surrounding DREAMERs and their families, enforcement, refugee flows, detention, immigration court backlogs, business immigration, and much more. 

Trump specifically blamed the Democrats and dismantled the DREAMERS, denied due process (unlike Obama) to immigrants, and created various sundry questionable constitutional 'mishaps.' 

I don't understand his stance on immigrants, especially considering the following breaking news:

Two foreign-born men who helped the president's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani in his efforts to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden have been arrested on federal campaign finance charges. The men, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, are accused of conspiring to "circumvent the federal laws against foreign interference by engaging in a scheme to funnel foreign money to candidates for federal and State office," according to an   indictment   in the Southern District of New York. Two other men, David Correia and Andrey Kukushkin, also face charges.

I guess if immigrants do something for your president, they're not so bad after all. By the way, has Mexico offered to pay for the wall as he promised they would? Has a special prosecutor locked up Hillary? Is ISIS dead? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.19  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  cobaltblue @5.1.18    2 weeks ago
I guess if immigrants do something for your president, they're not so bad after all.

Didn't say or imply that. Bad people are bad people period. As for the rest of your post, 

"Trump specifically blamed the Democrats and dismantled the DREAMERS, denied due process (unlike Obama) to immigrants,"

No one is denied due process.......unless you mean making them show up for the process. Mr. Obama let them loose on the "honor system" that they would show up. Well guess what................................

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5.1.20  Sean Treacy  replied to  cobaltblue @5.1.18    2 weeks ago
but the difference being that President Obama didn't blame the other party and create divisiveness.

Now that's funny. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.21  MrFrost  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.17    2 weeks ago
Like Mr. Obama did with immigration reform? Like that?

Obama had a republican congress. He asked congress for 3.7 billion dollars to help solve the illegal immigration problem and congress said NO!!! So he wrote an E.O., which the GOP complained about. Also, John Bohner had an immigration reform bill on his desk for two years that Obama said he would gladly sign, but it was never submitted. Weird huh? 

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.22  MrFrost  replied to  cobaltblue @5.1.18    2 weeks ago
Is ISIS dead? 

Trump has rehydrated ISIS, last report I saw on fox news said that 70,000 ISIS fighters could be freed in the next week or two. Trump is a failure at everything he does. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.23  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.12    2 weeks ago
Obviously the point went right over all of your heads.

Obviously the concept of a republic went right over yours. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
5.1.24  livefreeordie  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.21    2 weeks ago

It was rightfully dead because it called for giving illegals US citizenship. We will never agree to that.

 
 
 
Zingara Joe
5.1.25  Zingara Joe  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.22    2 weeks ago

What would your constructive critique of what should be done with each of those 70,000 fighters? 

Shades of grey, black and white - how are they to be weighted out in the balance. 

Some are undoubtable dupes, but they were armed and dangerous ones.

Some very bad from our perspective, some very bad from any but a socio psychopathic perspective.

? Judge them as they judged others, be equally compassionate or cruel, forgiving or stern ?

What was the cause they flocked to and is/was that cause justified?

Finally is it the job of the United States to determine their fate?

Are there other entities better qualified to make those determinations, it is all an opinion based decision.

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.26  MrFrost  replied to  Zingara Joe @5.1.25    one week ago
What would your constructive critique of what should be done with each of those 70,000 fighters? 

How about not making it easy for them to escape? Which is what trump did. 

Are there other entities better qualified to make those determinations, it is all an opinion based decision.

The Geneva Convention has very specific guidelines for deal with enemy combatants/POW's. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.27  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.26    one week ago
The Geneva Convention has very specific guidelines for deal with enemy combatants/POW's. 

And which terrorist organizations and/or ethnic groups are signatories to the Geneva Convention?

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.28  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.27    one week ago
And which terrorist organizations and/or ethnic groups are signatories to the Geneva Convention?

The signatories of the Geneva Convention are bound by it's tenants, it is irrelevant whether the captured person/group is a signatory. 

The US followed the Geneva Convention with Japanese prisoners regardless of the fact that Japan was not a signatory.  

 
 
 
arkpdx
5.1.29  arkpdx  replied to  Dulay @5.1.28    one week ago

You do know that terrorist, not fighting under a recognized flag nor fighting in uniformed armed service are not entitled to protections under the Geneva Convention right?

.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.30  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @5.1.29    one week ago
You do know that terrorist, not fighting under a recognized flag nor fighting in uniformed armed service are not entitled to protections under the Geneva Convention right?

You do know that my reply wasn't about the issue right? 

Save your strawmen for someone who will fall for them. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
5.1.31  arkpdx  replied to  Dulay @5.1.30    one week ago

Trying to weasel out again I see.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.32  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @5.1.31    one week ago

No arkey, I don't play the strawman game. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.33  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.27    one week ago
And which terrorist organizations and/or ethnic groups are signatories to the Geneva Convention?

Enemy combatant could be one person. Read the 8th amendment. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.34  MrFrost  replied to  arkpdx @5.1.29    one week ago
You do know that terrorist, not fighting under a recognized flag nor fighting in uniformed armed service are not entitled to protections under the Geneva Convention right?

Even if that were true, we still abide by our own constitution. 8th amendment, read it. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
5.1.35  arkpdx  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.34    one week ago

I have read it. Please show where it airs to foreign enemies, terrorists or others not in this country. Please provide specific quotes and links to sites that contain them. No I will not look them up myself, it's your job to prove your points not mine.

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.36  MrFrost  replied to  arkpdx @5.1.35    one week ago
Cruel and unusual punishment is a phrase describing punishment that is considered unacceptable due to the suffering , pain , or humiliation it inflicts on the person subjected to it.

Translation: The constitution says we will not TORTURE prisoners. PERIOD. If it doesn't state SPECIFIC people, it means ALL people. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
5.1.37  arkpdx  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.36    one week ago

You know what? I don't care if some dip wad terrorist that blows up school children an innocent people In a public market or if some slimeball child molester kills his victim by burying her alive after but sexually abusing and beating her dies a long, slow excruciatingly painful death. In fact I would prefer it.

 
 
 
It Is ME
6  It Is ME    2 weeks ago

"How To Stage a Coup in 7 Easy Steps"

1. Start Creating a Crime DURING an Election.

Then after the election …… 

2. Create a Crime before Evidence.

3. Create another Crime before Evidence.

4. Create another New Crime before Evidence.

5. Create another New Crime Before Evidence.

6. Create another New Crime before Evidence.

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7. Create another NEW Crime before Evidence.

Best Coup like …….. EVER ! jrSmiley_12_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
6.1  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  It Is ME @6    2 weeks ago

Not trying to pee on your poppies/parade/post toasties/pickles/pirate hat/poptarts/etc... but...Huh?

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6.1    2 weeks ago
Not trying to pee on your poppies/parade/post toasties/pickles/pirate hat/poptarts/etc... but...Huh?

I know !

The weeds have been so high, the non-observer just doesn't want to fight them anymore !

They'll just keep letting them get outa hand ! It's the "Easy Way" out ! 

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MrFrost
6.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6.1    2 weeks ago
Not trying to pee on your poppies/parade/post toasties/pickles/pirate hat/poptarts/etc.

Ya could have just gone all in and added, "prostate". 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
6.1.3  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  MrFrost @6.1.2    2 weeks ago
Ya could have just gone all in and added, "prostate".

Ha!!

On second thought, that might be a tad too Trumpian.

 
 
 
MrFrost
6.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6.1.3    2 weeks ago

;) 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  It Is ME @6    2 weeks ago
Start Creating a Crime DURING an Election.

...but don't tell anyone about it during the election when it would have mattered...

That reminds me of a joke.

A couple of NASA engineers are at a bar talking about the possibility of sending a manned mission to mars when a Donald Trump supporter walks up and says "Sending a man to Mar's is so lame, President Trump is going to beat that mission hands down before he has to leave office!". So the NASA engineers ask him what the Trump space program plan will be and the Trump fan replies "Trump is going to send a manned mission to the Sun!" to which the NASA engineers laugh and ask how exactly he was going to do that since the Sun would burn up any known space vehicle to which the Trump supporter replies "Yeah, that's why he's sending them at night...".

 
 
 
cobaltblue
6.2.1  cobaltblue  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2    2 weeks ago
Trump supporter replies "Yeah, that's why he's sending them at night...".

HA! Sounds about right ... and some of his supporters will eat that up. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.2.2  KDMichigan  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2    2 weeks ago
That reminds me of a joke.

Reminds me of a few. 

 What do you call a basement full of Liberals?  A whine cellar.

And my favorite....

I recently asked my friend’s little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President some day. Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her, ‘If you were President, what would be the first thing you would do?’
She replied, ‘I’d give food and houses to all the homeless people.’
Her parents beamed with pride.
‘Wow…what a worthy goal.’ I told her. ‘But you don’t have to wait until you’re President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I’ll pay you $50. Then I’ll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house.’
She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, ‘ Why doesn’t the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?’
I said, ‘Welcome to the Republican Party.’
 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.2.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  KDMichigan @6.2.2    2 weeks ago
A whine cellar.

We just heard that one from Trumps agriculture secretary who was the guest of honor at the annual Farmfest gathering in southern Minnesota this month:

“What do you call two farmers in a basement?” Mr. Perdue asked near the end of a testy hourlong town-hall-style event. “A whine cellar.”.

Welcome to the Republican party...

I'm sure that went over well with all the farmers suffering because of the ignorant Trump tariffs.

 
 
 
Steve Ott
6.3  Steve Ott  replied to  It Is ME @6    2 weeks ago

I don't believe this seed is about the NYPD.

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.3.1  It Is ME  replied to  Steve Ott @6.3    2 weeks ago
I don't believe this seed is about the NYPD.

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MrFrost
7  MrFrost    2 weeks ago

A variation on a theme...

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Jack_TX
8  Jack_TX    2 weeks ago
Does any of this sound familiar?  Of course it does.  

Wow.  It's uncanny how true all of this is.....

The political elites all love Trump.  The Romneys, the Bushs, the Clintons....all of America's political elites just think he's the best president ever.

It's amazing how all of his people continually evade state security.  Especially Manafort and Cohen.  Those guys are amazing at it. 

Trump is amazingly covert.  Nobody ever knows what he's doing.  The man doesn't even HAVE a Twitter account.

Since he's been in office...absolutely zero foreign powers have attacked us.  Nobody has bombed Pearl Harbor or anything.  

It's spooky and terrifying how Trump and the media have such a love affair going.  It's like the NEVER say anything bad about each other.  CNN should just rename itself "Trump News Network".  

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MrFrost
8.1  MrFrost  replied to  Jack_TX @8    2 weeks ago
The Romneys, the Bushs, the Clintons....all of America's political elites just think he's the best president ever.

They are not the only political elites on the planet. Think of it this way... Guy has no friends and his family has turned their back on him. He goes to the store, buys a ticket and wins 500 million.. Suddenly he has friends, and his family loves him. Being president is no different.

Since he's been in office...absolutely zero foreign powers have attacked us.

Wrong. Our cyber security is attacked just about daily from any number of countries. Russia is one of them. Weird that Moscow Mitch refuses to bring ANY bill for ANY funding at all to thwart these attacks, up for a vote. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
8.1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  MrFrost @8.1    2 weeks ago
They are not the only political elites on the planet. Think of it this way... Guy has no friends and his family has turned their back on him. He goes to the store, buys a ticket and wins 500 million.. Suddenly he has friends, and his family loves him. Being president is no different.

I would say that is the stupidest remark I've heard in a long time, but it frankly doesn't eclipse the original seed.

Political elites support Trump.  Riiiiiiight.  You are aware thatTed Nugent does not count as a "political elite", yes?

Wrong. Our cyber security is attacked just about daily from any number of countries. Russia is one of them. Weird that Moscow Mitch refuses to bring ANY bill for ANY funding at all to thwart these attacks, up for a vote. 

And this began when Trump was elected?  No?  

So was Barack Obama "staging a coup" as well?  

Or is this "coup" business all just raving batshit hysteria?  

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Jack_TX @8.1.1    2 weeks ago

 For sure just more wild batshit hysteria.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.1.3  cobaltblue  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.2    2 weeks ago
wild batshit hysteria

Oh. I see. Reporting the news that Trump is melting down and not handling this well is batshit hysteria. Puh-leese. The batshit hysteria was when Michelle Obama [Mooshel Obammy to some of you ... those of you who spent eight years using that moniker instead of her real name] wore a sleeveless dress. Oh, the fuckin' horror. Sheesh...

You guys are hilarious! You made my morning so danged fun!! 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.1.4  cobaltblue  replied to  Jack_TX @8.1.1    2 weeks ago
Ted Nugent

Oh, you mean "Mr.-Piss-And-Shit-Myself"? The lengths someone would go through to not serve their country. The Traitor-In-Chief used the spurs on either his left or right foot [he can't remember which] on his fifth deferment. Look how much they have in common. Maybe he should stop writing love letters to Kim ["and we fell in love"] and turn his attention to Ted. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
8.1.5  Jack_TX  replied to  cobaltblue @8.1.3    2 weeks ago
Oh. I see. Reporting the news that Trump is melting down and not handling this well is batshit hysteria.

What part of the phrase "stage a coup" did you fail to understand?  

Are we on a seed about Trump "not handling this well"?  Because I was pretty sure the subject is "how to stage a coup".  Let me scroll up and check.

Yep.  We're definitely on a "stage a coup" seed.  Was there a "not handling this well" seed somewhere and you got lost?

Puh-leese. The batshit hysteria was when Michelle Obama [Mooshel Obammy to some of you ... those of you who spent eight years using that moniker instead of her real name] wore a sleeveless dress. Oh, the fuckin' horror. Sheesh...

Do cite me on such a comment.  Ever.  As you used the phrase "some of you", I presume you possess the minimal intellectual skills required to differentiate various people of various opinions.

You guys are hilarious! You made my morning so danged fun!! 

I may have spoken too soon on the whole "ability to differentiate" situation.  

Out of curiosity, was there anything at all related to this seed you wanted to discuss or did you just stop by to change the subject a few times?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
8.1.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  cobaltblue @8.1.4    2 weeks ago

And Joe Biden got five student draft deferments and was ultimately classified 1-Y (exempt except in a national emergency) because of asthma as a teenager.

"Although " Mr. Biden never mentions his asthma, recounting an active childhood, work as a lifeguard and football exploits in high school."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/01/bidens-draft-deferments-equal-cheneys-during-vietn/  

So do we have another "pay the doctor well" diagnosis?

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.1.7  cobaltblue  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1.6    2 weeks ago
another "pay the doctor well" diagnosis?

So you admit it was a "pay the doctor well" diagnosis. You'll note I said fifth deferment, but his other four were not for the same thing. And since you don't have a problem with your admitted thinking that Trump's was a "pay the doctor well" diagnosis, I'm sure you'll have no problem overlooking any other candidate doing the same thing. If it's a nothingburger for your president, then it should be for everyone. Or are you one of the hypocritical types? 

And I believe Biden had asthma. But if your president can't remember which foot it was or cannot come up with documentation to prove it, well then there's that. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
8.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  cobaltblue @8.1.7    2 weeks ago

Quite frankly I don't give a damn about either of them. Just pointing out the equivalence in the situations. I only mentioned the "pay well" because that has been the story from the left since Mr. Trump was nominated. Pure and simple. If that is the case, then both are candyasses. Trump is NOT an exclusive. Ever hear the song "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival? Many of the "connected" rich bitches family members got "lucky" or went to Canada.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.1.9  cobaltblue  replied to  Jack_TX @8.1.5    2 weeks ago
was there anything at all related to this seed

Obviously you don't quite get the snarkasm of the Sister's use of coup. Your frightened and verbal abusing traitorous president is the one that melted down and said 'coup' first. Sister seized the opportunity of the ridiculousness of the comment and turned into in this well received article. Clever, isn't she. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.1.10  cobaltblue  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1.8    2 weeks ago

Yeahhhh. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  cobaltblue @8.1.3    2 weeks ago
Oh. I see. Reporting the news that Trump is melting down and not handling this well is batshit hysteria. Puh-leese. The batshit hysteria was when Michelle Obama [Mooshel Obammy to some of you ... those of you who spent eight years using that moniker instead of her real name] wore a sleeveless dress. Oh, the fuckin' horror. Sheesh...
You guys are hilarious! You made my morning so danged fun!! 

Damn, take a chill pill.

I was referring to the stupid, insane, ludicrous, hysterical rantings about some "coup".

Sheesh!

Please tell me you don't believe that nonsense--I always figured you were fairly level-headed even if we don't agree on things.

 
 
 
Zingara Joe
8.1.12  Zingara Joe  replied to  cobaltblue @8.1.7    2 weeks ago

Not every one can be a Kerry commander, three purple hearts and out of the war zone. 

Ask John about his war injuries.

A lot of people didn't like the war and didn't want to serve, even some who joined did it to evade the draft.

What was the goal of THAT war and was it justified at the time or even at the end?

Karma isn't it wonderful -  https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ngo-dinh-diem-assassinated-in-south-vietnam

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.13  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1.8    one week ago
Many of the "connected" rich bitches family members got "lucky" or went to Canada.

Biden isn't from a 'connected' rich bitches family. 

 
 
 
CB
8.2  CB   replied to  Jack_TX @8    2 weeks ago
Since he's been in office...absolutely zero foreign powers have attacked us.

So, Donald Trump domestically began an onslaught of lies, deceptions, and mesmerization against the hearts and souls of the U.S. citizens. He goes outside the country and attacks the president of Ukraine. He abandons on the battle field our terrorist fighting partner, the Kurds.

Great Looking out for our security there, Donald (and "Donald-lites").

 
 
 
Jack_TX
8.2.1  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @8.2    2 weeks ago
Wrong. Our cyber security is attacked just about daily from any number of countries. Russia is one of them. Weird that Moscow Mitch refuses to bring ANY bill for ANY funding at all to thwart these attacks, up for a vote. 

And that is indicative of a "coup".....how, exactly?

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.2.2  cobaltblue  replied to  Jack_TX @8.2.1    2 weeks ago
nd that is indicative of a "coup".....how, exactly?

Uhhh. Aren't you saying what we're saying? Isn't that Trumpthinskin's batshit hysteria?? He's calling out 'coup', no one else is. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
8.2.3  Jack_TX  replied to  cobaltblue @8.2.2    2 weeks ago
Uhhh. Aren't you saying what we're saying? Isn't that Trumpthinskin's batshit hysteria?? He's calling out 'coup', no one else is. 

Have you read the seed dear?  Scroll up, read over it, and let me know what you think.

Then we can compare this batshittery to the idea that Barack Obama wanted to install Sharia Law and communism and maybe organize some sort of tinfoil hat contest between the two groups.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.2.4  cobaltblue  replied to  Jack_TX @8.2.3    2 weeks ago
Scroll up, read over it, and let me know what you think

Repeat of my 8.1.9

Obviously you don't quite get the snarkasm of the Sister's use of coup. Your frightened and verbal abusing traitorous president is the one that melted down and said 'coup' first. Sister seized the opportunity of the ridiculousness of the comment and turned it into in this well received article. Clever, isn't she. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.2.5  cobaltblue  replied to  Jack_TX @8.2.3    2 weeks ago
Barack Obama wanted to install Sharia Law

Ha! Trump has always counted on the gullibility of some of his supporters:

The Supreme Court and Sharia law: How a fake-news story spreads

A bogus account began as a typo-ridden parody, but came to be embraced by millions.

The headline, on many versions of the fabricated story, blared: “BREAKING: First Full Supreme Court Ruling In Over A Year Has Obama FURIOUS.”

Withrow read on about how, “Just last week, the United States Supreme Court issued a direct and final blow to the Islamic Indoctrination of the young in this nation.” With a “tie-breaking vote” from Justice Neil Gorsuch, the court handed down a decision “banning Sharia Law and Islam from being taught in classrooms,” the story claimed.

Enthused by a decision he thought long overdue, Withrow copy and pasted chunks of the story into a post on Facebook, adding a bit of his own commentary. “This is the kind of story everyone SHOULD be hearing or reading in the media ... but obviously it is not,” he wrote. A photo of Gorsuch shaking hands with President Donald Trump appeared beside the text. Kurt Withrow, a former insurance salesman from Palatine, Illinois, didn’t mean to become one of the thousands of people who helped propel forward one of the most persistent fake news stories of the last year. But in January, a story making its way around Facebook caught his eye.

* * * *

This particular false story started not in Russia or Macedonia, but in Maine, as the work of a self-proclaimed satirist. And while the distinction between false and legitimate news can be subtle or subject to interpretation, Christopher Blair admits that this story, like all the ones he writes for his website, America’s Last Line of Defense, is indisputably false.

Blair describes himself as a liberal troll, out to antagonize conservatives . But his work is so voluminous, and so consistently not interpreted as satire, that the fact-checking site Snopes has a tag and archive devoted to stories from it, with more than 35 entries.

Cite

"out to antagonize conservatives" who don't have either the intellect or thoroughness to check out a story completely before believing it. Pizzagate anyone?

 
 
 
CB
8.2.6  CB   replied to  Jack_TX @8.2.1    2 weeks ago

Que? You talk'in to me? Who dat? I didn't do it! (Smile.)jrSmiley_43_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
CB
8.2.7  CB   replied to  Jack_TX @8.2.3    2 weeks ago

 Here is a can with a lid: RcG7jMecL.png PLACE OBAMA TALKING POINTS HERE.  CAUTION! CLOSE LID TO AVOID ESCAPE!

 
 
 
CB
8.2.8  CB   replied to  cobaltblue @8.2.4    2 weeks ago

Yes! Yes! Yes! Jack! You misread me too, @8.2.1! What is going on? 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.3  cobaltblue  replied to  Jack_TX @8    2 weeks ago
Nobody has bombed Pearl Harbor or anything

The Kurds didn't bomb Pearl Harbor either, those no-goods. I mean, isn't that why Drumpf turned his back on them?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
8.3.1  Jack_TX  replied to  cobaltblue @8.3    2 weeks ago

Was there anything....at all...related to this actual seed that you wanted to discuss?  You know.  This article that Sister Mary wrote up there at the top of the page. 

Remotely related.  Tangentially.  Anything in the neighborhood.  Zip code.  Area code, even.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.3.2  cobaltblue  replied to  Jack_TX @8.3.1    2 weeks ago
related to this actual seed that you wanted to discuss

Why do you care about this? Oh no ... do you have one of those gawd-awful rogue mouses that bring you to seeds and articles you just don't want to be in??? It's amazing how many of you right-leaners have those defective mouses!! You need to write someone. See, when I don't agree with what's being said in an article, I scroll right by it. My time is valuable so I only go where intellect and humor congregate. You must try a functioning mouse so you can scroll by the ones you think are batshit crazy. How awful for you to be somewhere where people don't seem to "get" you. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.3.3  igknorantzrulz  replied to  cobaltblue @8.3.2    2 weeks ago

sum of us "get" him,

but,

he usually doesn't like to play with me,

even when i give him the lead, in the play, where i don't work, to say

coup coup a chew       want a peek a chew,

and other

roley poley  tubby tell us alls,  about their distorted imported while extorting

n

snortin, like a pussy grabbin back stabbin elbow in kneed , in need of a bigger joint,

arrow to point, to the head  of the class less ass who would anoint the one who Put in      place of him ,  our new unelected king,

while our Queen, who doesn't no      Jack

shore seems to B, no moored, than he/it a piers .

From my magic view finder, his letters, chained, need only explained to those who would have him drag them down

with the anchor with too much canchor,

to give N E    LIP

as he is an indentured servant of ineptitude, with less teeth, though still biting,

less logic, though still fighting,   but  apparently

the wet paper bag    was just    Made Too Great Again,

like America, will bee honey,   write after the

Coup Coup A Chew

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.3.4  cobaltblue  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.3.3    2 weeks ago
Coup Coup A Chew

Oh thank goodness it's a chew. If you would have said 'coup coup achoo', I would run right over, make you some chicken and rice soup, pour you some orange juice with a bit of vodka in it and then rub your chest with Vick's Vaporub. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.3.5  igknorantzrulz  replied to  cobaltblue @8.3.4    2 weeks ago

Oh my, my nipples just erected a salute

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.3.6  cobaltblue  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.3.5    2 weeks ago
my nipples just erected a salute

Looks like they have their party hats on ... !

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.3.7  igknorantzrulz  replied to  cobaltblue @8.3.6    2 weeks ago

Looks like they have their party hats on ... !

more like enlarged pencil erasers

 
 
 
MrFrost
8.3.8  MrFrost  replied to  cobaltblue @8.3    2 weeks ago
The Kurds didn't bomb Pearl Harbor either, those no-goods. I mean, isn't that why Drumpf turned his back on them?

Christ I couldn't believe trump said that shit. "They weren't there on Normandy beach helping us"... WTF is wrong with that moron? And the right complains about Biden's gaffs? At least he didn't reference the airports in the revolutionary war. 

512

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.3.9  cobaltblue  replied to  MrFrost @8.3.8    2 weeks ago

384

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
8.3.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  cobaltblue @8.3.9    2 weeks ago

The pew pew is a nice touch

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.3.11  cobaltblue  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.3.10    2 weeks ago
The pew pew is a nice touch

It reminded me of you, Giggles! Laughed my ass off!

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
8.4  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Jack_TX @8    2 weeks ago

Let me help you out a smidge.

1.  Make sure that you are or can be, in principle, supported by a large fraction of the population and political elites.

Check.

2. Establish a network of highly-placed co-conspirators that would share the same goals and trust each other, while evading state security. Without such participants, this would not be a coup.

Trump corners the market on the 'hire and fire until you surround yourself with people who are willing to put their reputations and character in jeopardy just so they will feel secure with their current employment status' thingy.  Trump administration loyalists are willing to go down with the ship, and I for one, don't give a flying fart. 

3.  Obtain covert control over elite military units and, ideally, police and state security (so that they are ready to follow your orders when necessary). If the military simply stays neutral, this is not a military coup.

He has already been making incredibly stupid military decisions on his own.  This is the same guy who said he knows more than the generals, and they don't know much because they are not winning.  His claim of absolute power, combined with high levels of arrogance and ignorance, put us all at risk.

4.  Get foreign support, or at least make sure you will not be attacked by the world powers. Getting explicit foreign support, especially weapons and large amounts of money, can be risky as this would put your motives in doubt and undermine your standing in the country.

The man's adversary bromance escapades are no secret. He has a raging case of dictator envy.  #Putin #KimJungUn #Bashar al-Assad #Mohammed bin Salman #Erdogan etc.     

5.  Identify your main political opponents and their support networks. Figure out how they can be neutralized.

He creates false narratives, complete with nicknames, and repeats the message over and over, and over, and over, and over...  The false narratives often include a criminal aspect or other profoundly untrue character assignation.  He also uses the tried and true method, and fires whomever is in his way, and invents heinous tales of traitorous deeds.

6.  Obtain control over some mass media, ideally in advance, to ensure reasonable coverage of your actions. Prepare to counter aggressive propaganda. Don't put much faith in your own aggressive propaganda - this often backfires.

Oh please.  Fake media, fake media, fake media, witch hunt, witch hunt, witch hunt.  Breitbart and Fox News are the US equivalents of the state-run media in North Korea, Russia, China, etc.  According to Trump, all other media outlets are the enemy of the people. 

7.  Identify your weak points and protect them. Family and friends.  Personal security. Skeletons in your closet. If you lose support of the people (say, due to brutality of your action), your chances of staying in power are low. Other weak points may include your finances, foreign trade sanctions, aggression by neighboring countries, economic instability, etc. 

Trump has weak points all over the place.  In fact, he is one gigantic weak point.  He ducks, dodges, hides, conceals, backtracks, and doubles-down with attacks and innuendo.  If those tactics fall short on results, he has his 'people' dangle hefty pay-offs in exchange for signed non-disclosure statements.

Look, I'm not making this shit up.  It's there for the world to see.  And ridicule.    

 
 
 
r.t..b...
8.4.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @8.4    2 weeks ago
 It's there for the world to see.

The myopia of unwarranted loyalty has left those unwilling to see this debacle for what it is blindly scrambling to focus on anything but the root of the problem. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.4.2  cobaltblue  replied to  r.t..b... @8.4.1    2 weeks ago
The myopia of unwarranted loyalty has left those unwilling to see this debacle for what it is blindly scrambling to focus on anything but the root of the problem. 

Egggggggg-zactly! Kinda fun, isn't it? 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
8.4.3  r.t..b...  replied to  cobaltblue @8.4.2    2 weeks ago
Kinda fun, isn't it?

Like a colonoscopy.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.4.4  cobaltblue  replied to  r.t..b... @8.4.3    2 weeks ago
colonoscopy

with a pap smear chaser. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.4.5  igknorantzrulz  replied to  r.t..b... @8.4.1    2 weeks ago
but the root of the problem

appears to be connected to the 

Treas on

which it IS connected, and not a planted.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.4.6  igknorantzrulz  replied to  cobaltblue @8.4.4    2 weeks ago

i'll drink to both,  Hell, i'll drink too

ANYTHING !

 
 
 
Jack_TX
8.4.7  Jack_TX  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @8.4    2 weeks ago
Let me help you out a smidge.

That's a bit like a heroin dealer offering to "help you out" with the pain.

See...your "help" is going to require me to drink the batshit hysteria flavored Kool Aid, which clearly causes otherwise non-ridiculous individuals to put an aluminum foil lampshade on their head.

Check.

Riiiiiiight.  Like I said, all the political elites LOVE ol' Don.  

Trump administration loyalists

Could not evade Barney Fife, much less "state security".  

His claim of absolute power,

Is completely valid and not batshit hysteria at all. *eyeroll*  Just look at the political opponents and journalists he's had executed.  

Oh please.  Fake media, fake media, fake media, witch hunt, witch hunt, witch hunt.

Because a "controlled media" says all sorts of shit the "controller" doesn't want published.   Riiiiiight.  Do you actually understand how "controlled media" works?   Do you actually understand the word "control"?  Do you actually understand the word "coup", for that matter?

So while we're on the batshit hysteria train, are there any other stops you'd like to make?  Are we about to hear about how "having a copay for birth control is exactly like living in The Handmaid's Tale"?  Are you going to explain how every deer hunter in America is directly responsible for the El Paso shootings?  Maybe you're going to tell us how successful "Occupy Wall Street" was in their campaign against big banks.  

Do tell.  How far down the looking glass hole are we going?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.4.8  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Jack_TX @8.4.7    2 weeks ago

Do tell.  How far down the looking glass hole are we going?

Ass farr ass i can seeeeeeeeeeeeee.........

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.4.9  It Is ME  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.4.8    2 weeks ago
Ass farr ass i can seeeeeeeeeeeeee.........

Hey …... Ass farr ass....that only works if you have a mirror behind you too. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.4.10  cobaltblue  replied to  Jack_TX @8.4.7    2 weeks ago
you actually understand the word "coup"

Doesn't matter if she understands it ... does your president understand it? Obviously not. He actually thinks he's some third world dictator. Who else uses a word like "coup"? A batshit traitorous wanna-screw-their-own-daughter presidents does. 

Why doesn't traitorous trumplethinskin turn over the full 38 minutes of the conversation with Ukraine? Why doesn't he provide documentation to prove he's innocent? Why doesn't he want to appear before Congress? If I was innocent, I would say "investigate away, baby ... you won't find shit." But he doesn't. Does he. He wants his secrecy. His supporters don't even ask him to pull out his pants pockets to show the world he's innocent. He doesn't care. He has something to hide. And if you cared for him, if you believe his innocence, if you believe in America, you would be writing him and saying "let them investigate; they won't find a thing. Let's get back to helping our country instead you continually covering your ass." What kind of supporter are you? Why don't you do something good for your president and good for your country instead of believing all the bullshit he shovels down your throat?

Again I say: those who have nothing to hide, hide nothing. 

 
 
 
MUVA
8.4.11  MUVA  replied to  Jack_TX @8.4.7    2 weeks ago

I Would say far enough to see China.

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.4.12  It Is ME  replied to  cobaltblue @8.4.10    2 weeks ago
those who have nothing to hide.....

......… Don't Speak !

" Defense 101 "......Don't talk, or the ones out to convict you will take any little word you say and use it against you !

Ever wonder why "Lawyers" don't want  their clients on the stand ? jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
8.4.13  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Jack_TX @8.4.7    2 weeks ago
Do you actually understand how "controlled media" works?   Do you actually understand the word "control"?  Do you actually understand the word "coup", for that matter?

Of course.  I'm thinking that you are struggling a bit with 'meanings', though.  But more importantly, you seem to be struggling bigly with the point of the article. 

However, feel free to carry on, if you must.

 
 
 
MUVA
8.4.14  MUVA  replied to  cobaltblue @8.4.10    2 weeks ago

 You don’t give up your right to due process or civil liberties and the right to defend yourself just because some TDS leftist accuses you of something Some on the left started the impeachment talk before Trump was elected they did the same thing to Bush.Im afraid of leftist who say if you have nothing to hide just give up your rights and roll over this scenario has played it self out many times in history and never with a good outcome.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.4.15  igknorantzrulz  replied to  It Is ME @8.4.12    2 weeks ago

Ever wonder why "Lawyers" don't want  their clients on the stand ?

cause some can't "stand" the truth, and for that it might stand, as the stand is for those not Lying, 

but like you too hard trying, Trump Is, and you and he R in the cellar, as the 12 steps taken, system atically faken,

ones too see   to blind

   as well  intentioned ones taken for all others have forsaken

cause when their cooking with the EZ bake oven, and the 100 watt bulb of light is incandescent, 

as some aren't too bright to not see the light at night as they slide down the poll from the system attic, past the future first floored, now  a card hard wood bored, directly N2oh  those

based and meant, 

to be hidden from the light cast and spent, in a reality basement

below average   grade schooled mentality for those with 

mental fragility , cause broken is their train of thought, uncoupled from the Freight carried by ones sold and bought

to enslave small minds, that don't

captured for thinking, but won't

escaping from watt they think is real, and  don't

real eyes    sea the depths of deceit, 

while others just take the bends   over and over

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.4.16  It Is ME  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.4.15    2 weeks ago
cause some can't "stand" the truth

yeah.....that's it ! jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.4.17  igknorantzrulz  replied to  It Is ME @8.4.9    2 weeks ago

Hey …... Ass farr ass....that only works if you have a mirror behind you too. 

and if im dyslexic, do i roll my vehicle to read words you can't understand... 

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.4.18  It Is ME  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.4.17    2 weeks ago
and if im dyslexic

Are you ? jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.4.19  igknorantzrulz  replied to  It Is ME @8.4.18    2 weeks ago

HW=MH

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.4.20  It Is ME  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.4.19    2 weeks ago

Roger. jrSmiley_38_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.4.21  igknorantzrulz  replied to  It Is ME @8.4.20    2 weeks ago
Roger

A Dolt Trea 

WHO ?

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.4.22  It Is ME  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.4.21    2 weeks ago
WHO ?

Fred ya silly !

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.4.23  cobaltblue  replied to  MUVA @8.4.14    2 weeks ago
hide just give up your rights

What? How do you give up your rights by telling the truth? How on earth does that even compute? If he has nothing to hide, then turn over the entire "perfect" 38 minutes of the Ukraine tape. What rights are lost by telling the truth? You've been listening to Trump's lies too long. He's been calling his supporters stupid from the get-go and none of you seem to get it. If nothing has been done wrong, if the conversation was indeed perfect (which, as we well know, is not true even by his own "transcribed by experts" report), then turn over the tape. Make monkeys out of the left leaners by releasing everything. Why won't he do that? Why do you insist on believing his lies? Don't you think if he could prove his innocence, he'd do it and demand an apology from the press and left-leaners? He'd rather drown in his own fabrications. And he's counting on people like you to eat every piece of lie pie he serves you. 

 
 
 
MUVA
8.4.24  MUVA  replied to  cobaltblue @8.4.23    2 weeks ago

Your thought process is breathtaking and why you or someone like you should never hold office.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.4.25  cobaltblue  replied to  MUVA @8.4.24    2 weeks ago
Your thought process is breathtaking and why you or someone like you should never hold office

Oh. I see. Because I believe in truth and honesty. You believe in lies and fabrications to cover oneself. Yeahhhh. I got it. I gotta hand it to Trumplethinskin. He believes a sucker was born every minute and he can count on some of those for blind support. For goodness sake, it doesn't even matter to you that he wants to date [read: screw] his daughter, so fucking over the country doesn't account for much to you either. 

 
 
 
Ender
8.4.26  Ender  replied to  cobaltblue @8.4.25    2 weeks ago

Some can't handle the tooth...

512

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
8.4.27  Trout Giggles  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.4.21    2 weeks ago

jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.4.28  cobaltblue  replied to  Ender @8.4.26    2 weeks ago
Some can't handle the tooth...

Omigawd. This guy isn't fat enough, but the toothlessness reminds me of when the Open Carry peeps came to Sundance Square. Filthy, toothless and overweight ... every last one of them. I honestly did not see one of them have a full set of chompers and I would have noticed. They were thrilled at being disgusting in the open. No one was happy to see them. They couldn't get into restaurants. The cops hated that they were there, and they loved scaring little kids. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.4.29  It Is ME  replied to  cobaltblue @8.4.25    2 weeks ago
Because I believe in truth and honesty......

.....with a bunch of adlibs inserted.

Really ?

Honestly ?

"People always overdo the matter when they attempt deception." 

Charles Dudley Warner (friend of Mark twain)

 
 
 
MUVA
8.4.30  MUVA  replied to  cobaltblue @8.4.25    2 weeks ago

No because you believe guilty as charged and you have to prove your innocence.

 
 
 
arkpdx
8.4.31  arkpdx  replied to  cobaltblue @8.4.25    2 weeks ago

"Because I believe in truth and honesty. "

You believe in your truth and your honesty the way you perceive the world. Not everyone thinks the same way or sees truth and honesty the same. You are not necessarily right and correct.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.4.32  igknorantzrulz  replied to  It Is ME @8.4.22    2 weeks ago

Fred ya silly !

i guarantee you would move

f

u

were my neighbor

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.4.33  igknorantzrulz  replied to  arkpdx @8.4.31    2 weeks ago
You

r neither

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.4.34  cobaltblue  replied to  arkpdx @8.4.31    2 weeks ago
You believe in your truth and your honesty the way you perceive the world

Yeah, yeah, arkie. How you doin', pumpkin? 

 
 
 
arkpdx
8.4.35  arkpdx  replied to  cobaltblue @8.4.34    2 weeks ago

I am doing just fine. I am recovering from brain surgery to remove some malformed veins and arteries. I know you never thought I would need brain surgery because you didn't believe ihad one. Surprise I do!

 
 
 
Ender
8.4.36  Ender  replied to  arkpdx @8.4.35    2 weeks ago

Oh wow. Glad you are doing good.

 
 
 
arkpdx
8.4.37  arkpdx  replied to  Ender @8.4.36    2 weeks ago

Thanks

 
 
 
dave-2693993
8.4.38  dave-2693993  replied to  arkpdx @8.4.35    2 weeks ago

Glad you survived that.

 
 
 
CB
8.4.39  CB   replied to  It Is ME @8.4.12    2 weeks ago

Only if that one is a talking 'ass,' Enter Donald Trump. The lawyers are saving his 'rounder.' The 'dude' could not complete a written inquiry form without the Special Counsel giving him a 'homework' pass on his answers. Damn, and White House lawyers and personal lawyers were involved. Face up to it: You picked a 'flophouse' to be hero. Ratings are crashing. Trump is leaking crowd size.

 
 
 
CB
8.4.40  CB   replied to  MUVA @8.4.14    2 weeks ago

So let your president just stand there, law and order is coming 'fast and furious' over the horizon! Truth has finally got its boots on and started trekking! How about October 10, 2019 in the White House? Rough day, I am told.

 
 
 
CB
8.4.41  CB   replied to  arkpdx @8.4.31    2 weeks ago

giphy.gif Donald Trump's perception of the world. Oh, it true. Uh-huh.

 
 
 
MrFrost
8.4.42  MrFrost  replied to  arkpdx @8.4.35    2 weeks ago

I am doing just fine. I am recovering from brain surgery to remove some malformed veins and arteries. I know you never thought I would need brain surgery because you didn't believe ihad one. Surprise I do!

Glad you're doing better Arky, take care of yourself.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.4.43  cobaltblue  replied to  arkpdx @8.4.35    2 weeks ago
Surprise I do

Holy shit, arkie! Good on you for what seems like a great recovery. Did they use packing peanuts to take up the empty spots in your brain? I kid, of course. I'm just happy you're well. Sounds like you've made, or on your way, to a complete recovery. 

 
 
 
JaneDoe
8.4.44  JaneDoe  replied to  arkpdx @8.4.35    2 weeks ago
I am doing just fine. I am recovering from brain surgery

May your recovery be quick! Glad you are doing well!

 
 
 
arkpdx
9  arkpdx    2 weeks ago

Thanks

 
 
 
MrFrost
10  MrFrost    2 weeks ago

George Will: No Republican who supports Trump should be re-elected

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/george-will-no-republican-who-supports-trump-should-be-re-elected/

Ouch...

 
 
 
cobaltblue
10.1  cobaltblue  replied to  MrFrost @10    2 weeks ago
Ouch...

Those that have blindly supported Trump will be considered poison. The Traitor-In-Chief has single-handedly destroyed the GOP. He handed us Congress and tied a great big ol' bow on it. The GOP will now be considered untrustworthy, traitorous, inept, cultish, dishonorable and gutless. There's no strength in the GOP anymore. They will be forever considered buffoons unworthy of being called patriotic Americans. 

Btw, where are Ivanka and Jared? Think they went someplace where Trumplethinskin can't find them so they can make love knowing that Daddy isn't listening at the bedroom door or staring into the peephole he drilled so he could watch? 

Trump totally destroyed his party. History books will chronicle every disgusting despicable moment of his presidential tenure. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
11  author  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    one week ago

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Freedom Warrior - Please be a jackass on your own articles. (preferably on another site, in another universe)

 
 
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