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Democrats Would Rather Blame Trump Than China for the Pandemic

  

Category:  Op/Ed

Via:  heartland-american  •  4 years ago  •  123 comments

By:   Roger Simon

Democrats Would Rather Blame Trump Than China for the Pandemic
The Democrats and the media are now more interested in blaming Trump, rather than the Chinese communists, for COVID-19. This is particularly dangerous since the ChiComs have been engaged for weeks now in a propaganda campaign blaming the United States for the virus. The accusations are absurd, but as with much propaganda, people will believe it if they hear it enough. Further, the Chinese have begun to engage in an academic coverup of the provenance of the virus, erasing online scientific...

The democrats and the mainstream media are eagerly dinking all the kool aid that the Chinese Communist Party is providing them.  Then out of their hatred of America and her President they happily parrot Chinese propaganda talking points. To them supporting an enemy regime responsible for inflicting this virus 🦠 upon the world is fine if that’s what it takes to attack our President.  


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I have written before we are in the midst of two pandemics, the Medical Pandemic caused by the  CCP virus  and a Political Pandemic largely instigated by the Democratic Party and their myriad media allies.

The Medical Pandemic may (hopefully) be easing, but the Political Pandemic appears to be going into overdrive. The  Democrats  and the media are now more interested in blaming Trump, rather than the Chinese communists, for COVID-19.

This is particularly dangerous since the ChiComs have been engaged for weeks now in a propaganda campaign blaming the United States for the virus. The accusations are absurd, but as with much propaganda, people will believe it if they hear it enough.

Further, the Chinese have begun to engage in an  academic coverup  of the provenance of the virus, erasing online scientific papers from their university websites (Fudan University and the China University of Geosciences in Wuhan) so that suspicious traces are gone and scientific history can be rewritten in Orwellian fashion. (Bat experiments? What bat experiments?)

By focusing their attention on Trump, the Democrats are in essence aiding the CCP in their nefarious activities that could well do immense damage to the future of our country and the world. But never mind. Trump must go.

Two early harbingers of this trend were the accusations of “xenophobia” and “racism” by Joe Biden and others when the president closed the door on travel from China and Nancy Pelosi consequently urging everyone to join the throngs in Chinatown for Chinese New Year. Nothing could go wrong.

Naturally, they also attacked Trump for not paying attention to the virus while they were impeaching him (as if  they were). When in those nauseating days of the impeachment trial at the end of January and the beginning of February did you hear even one word from a Democrat about a Chinese virus? This line of attack has been especially repellent considering the exceptionally flimsy, possibly even corrupt, basis of the accusation itself.

And then there was the politicization of the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine because the president recommended it as worth at least a try. To most media and Dems, it was as if Trump were shilling for strychnine. That it actually worked in many instances was beside the point and not to be reported or even admitted.

(Or as Ann Coulter put it on Twitter: “BREAKING: ‘PRESIDENT TRUMP KNEW FOR WEEKS THAT THE DRUG HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE COULD HAVE SAVED MILLIONS, BUT DID NOTHING’ — The New York Times, 1 month from now’”)

One of the more recent methods being employed to tarnish Trump during the  pandemic  is the deification of National Institute of Health director Anthony Fauci. The press and the Dems treat him as a combination of two Alberts—Schweizer and Einstein.

In reality, though a competent scientist, Fauci has made his share of errors already regarding the  CCP virus , at first naively accepting the communists’ lie that the virus could only be passed by animals to man and therefore downplaying the epidemic in general. He has also made his fair share of mistakes regarding the numbers affected that seem to change virtually daily, always downwards.

But whatever you think of Fauci, the Dem’s and the media’s objective is clearly to drive a wedge between Trump and the scientists to make the president seem like a greedy yahoo willing to sacrifice his fellow citizens for the good of the stock market.

That it’s Trump’s job as our elected leader, not the scientist’s, to figure out how to balance the reaction to the pandemic between health and economic issues, the latter having serious health implications of their own, is irrelevant.

That “elected leader” phrase is the root of most of this. The Dems, notably their liberal wing, have little left to say. Liberalism is moribund, as  Barton Swaim  pointed out well in this weekend’s Wall Street Journal, their important achievements now decades old.

But like all political parties they still want power and Joe Biden represents the past in every way imaginable. All they really have to generate excitement is how they can paint Trump.

So they continue to turn him into the enemy, now even to the extent of excusing and defending the real enemy, communist China. This should be alarming to our nation and the world.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

But whatever you think of Fauci, the Dem’s and the media’s objective is clearly to drive a wedge between Trump and the scientists to make the president seem like a greedy yahoo willing to sacrifice his fellow citizens for the good of the stock market.

That it’s Trump’s job as our elected leader, not the scientist’s, to figure out how to balance the reaction to the pandemic between health and economic issues, the latter having serious health implications of their own, is irrelevant.

That “elected leader” phrase is the root of most of this. The Dems, notably their liberal wing, have little left to say. Liberalism is moribund, as  Barton Swaim  pointed out well in this weekend’s Wall Street Journal, their important achievements now decades old.

But like all political parties they still want power and Joe Biden represents the past in every way imaginable. All they really have to generate excitement is how they can paint Trump.

So they continue to turn him into the enemy, now even to the extent of excusing and defending the real enemy, communist China.   

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    4 years ago

We do blame tRump for disassembling the pandemic response team that President Obama put in place and ignoring every warning about the virus and not ordering all states to stay in place.  

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2  The Magic 8 Ball    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2    4 years ago

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Paula Bartholomew
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3  Paula Bartholomew    4 years ago

Trump did not create the virus but his dragging his feet when there was plenty of intel available last year when we could have put measures into place.  He claims that he restricted travel from China but over 40,000 people from China still entered.

 the real enemy, communist China

It is a virus not a communist based infection.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3    4 years ago

The [[deleted]] are planning to base their presidential campaign on the lie that Biden is a commie. [deleted]

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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3.1.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    4 years ago
campaign on the lie that Biden is a commie.

unlike the 3 yrs of the left screaming trump and russia russia russia?

your too funny :)

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1.3  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    4 years ago

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JohnRussell
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3.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @3.1.1    4 years ago
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Preet Bharara
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Trump: My authority is total but my responsibility is zero. What leadership.
https:// twitter.com/carlquintanill a/status/1249826564776304641
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to    4 years ago

That is for certain.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1.3    4 years ago

Proof 1st?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.1.7  Ed-NavDoc  replied to    4 years ago

Amen!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.2  Sparty On  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3    4 years ago

So true, just like it’s not a Trump based infection.    

Right?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3    4 years ago

I see, so Trump's inability to completely stop travel from China is to blame for this, so we should elect the guy who claimed it was racist to even suggest stopping travel from China?  

Do progressives even remember how they reacted to Trump trying to stop travel from China?

 
 
 
lib50
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3.3.1  lib50  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3    4 years ago

Do you really think that is the only thing that needs to be done during a pandemic?  Not acquiring enough necessary medical gear, equipment and medicines?  Not making sure all departments were ready to move with experts and plans in place?  Not being honest during his briefings about the severity that had already begun overseas?  Not understanding Europe was the next hot spot?  Not enough tests.  No planning and guidance, just left it to the states because he's 'not responsible'.  Continuous lies.  Firing people best suited to handle just this type of emergency.  Not foreseeing other problems that come from a worldwide disaster like this.   Like shortages. Note the next one is likely food.  He cares more about his ratings and is pissed everyone sees through his lies and incompetence.  It's not just about closing borders even if he had done it.  Now he thinks he can start up what he didn't shut down in the first place.  What is that about states rights again? 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.3.2  Sparty On  replied to  lib50 @3.3.1    4 years ago

Trump could’ve had a crystal ball, done everything perfectly and the left still would find fault with it.

It’s called Trump Derangement Syndrome.    

TDS for short.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.3.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @3.3.2    4 years ago
This is Trump derangement
Trump: My authority is total but my responsibility is zero.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.3.4  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.3    4 years ago

I wasn’t talking to you John but yes .... if the shoe fits, put it on and rock it baybee!

 
 
 
Freewill
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3.3.5  Freewill  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.3    4 years ago
Trump: My authority is total but my responsibility is zero

You put that in block quote as though a verbatim quote from Trump. Perhaps you can show us where he actually said that, in the same sentence and regarding the same topic?  Folks repeat something like that over and over, completely devoid of context and not even close to what he actually said.

That quote came from a tweet of an ex-US attorney Preet Bharara who claims he was fired by Trump.  He and 46 other US attorneys were asked to resign by Jeff Sessions in March 2017 which is not all that uncommon upon the changing of presidential administrations and Attorney Generals.  He made it up.  They are not Trump's words.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.3.6  JBB  replied to  Freewill @3.3.5    4 years ago

Here you go. Tie yourself in knots defending him if you must but he has said both...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.3.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Freewill @3.3.5    4 years ago
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I didnt quote Trump, I quoted Preet Bhahara's tweet.  Please dont make rash accusations to me again. 

Bhahara does not quote Trump directly either. 

And Trump has denied responsibility in the coronavirus mess , and has claimed authority to address it, although as far as I know not in the same sentence. 

There is nothing unfair about Bhahara's tweet. 

 
 
 
Freewill
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3.3.8  Freewill  replied to  JBB @3.3.6    4 years ago

Good article JBB, makes it clear that he actually said,

The president of the United States calls the shots,” Mr. Trump said. “They can’t do anything without the approval of the president of the United States .

In cases like this that require a nationally coordinated response, that is absolutely correct.  Similar to national defense.  He later added,

It is the decision of the President, and for many good reasons. With that being said, the Administration and I are working closely with the Governors, and this will continue. A decision by me, in conjunction with the Governors and input from others, will be made shortly !

So he agrees that working with the Governors is what they will do so that he can make the best decisions as President.  Does that really sound like he meant it to be at odds with the Governors?

So that explains HALF of the made-up quote from Trump.and as we all know the second half was on a completely different subject of testing.   He also explained why he did not want to take responsibility for the so-called "lag in testing" in the March 13 press conference video, because there was none, and that he followed the expert recommendations every step of the way as those recommendations developed.  Here is Fauci explaining that whole issue and stating that Trump followed every recommendation on mitigation measures when they were suggested by his experts .  Please watch the whole video and listen carefully to what he said.

Bottom line, is that this "quote" posted by JR is NOT what Trump said, and is simply a politically motivated departure from reality and context.  Even its components are easily disassembled with minimal fact checking effort. 

 
 
 
Freewill
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3.3.9  Freewill  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.7    4 years ago
Please dont make rash accusations to me again

You bet, as soon as you stop posting rash or misleading political accusations/statements.  You are posting on an open forum my friend.  If you post or copy something that makes an untrue or unsubstantiated statement, you need to expect folks to counter it hopefully in a rational and reasonable way as I have.  I was not accusing you of anything outside of that. I do apologize for not seeing the original source for that quote in one of your previous posts.

As for the remainder of your comment, see my response to JBB about the inaccuracy of the quote you copied from Mr. Bhahara's tweet.  My intent is not to defend Trump (I actually think he's an ass with a third grade vocabulary), it is to defend reality and truth. I believe I have adequately supported my take on this without prejudice or political animosity.  I'd appreciate the same in return.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.3.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Freewill @3.3.9    4 years ago
If you post or copy something that makes an untrue or unsubstantiated statement, you need to expect folks to counter it hopefully in a rational and reasonable way as I have. 

I will make this plain. NO ONE DIRECTLY QUOTED TRUMP, therefore none of what I posted was inappropriate or misleading. Its that simple. Preet Bhahara, or anyone else, has the right to summarize what Trump or another public or private figure has said on a topic. Trump has said that he takes no responsibility for the corona virus, and has said that he has the authority to deal with it as he sees fit.  And you misrepresented the point JBB was making. 

I am not big on watering down criticism of Trump by trying to find where he is being dealt with unfairly, especially when the person doing the watering down has no case, like you in this instance. 

 
 
 
Freewill
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3.3.11  Freewill  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.10    4 years ago
NO ONE DIRECTLY QUOTED TRUMP, therefore none of what I posted was inappropriate or misleading

I know it is not a direct quote from Trump, in fact I am the only one of us who cared to point that out initially. And of course it was misleading and I clearly indicated why with links to what he actually said, corroboration from an expert in Dr. Fauci, and reasoned analysis.  I am not the one misrepresenting anything. 

Preet Bhahara, or anyone else, has the right to summarize what Trump or another public or private figure has said on a topic

Indeed he does.  However, if his summary is inaccurate or misleading or two separate issues conflated and taken out of context, then I or others have every right to point that out with facts and evidence to support our case as to how it is inaccurate or misleading.  Which is what I did.  I am not big on watering down the truth to make political hay.

Have a nice evening.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.3.12  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Freewill @3.3.8    4 years ago

I just read that a number of governors have decided to start loosening the "Stay home, stay safe" requirement because the almighty dollar is more important than people's lives. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.3.13  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.3.12    4 years ago

Someone didn’t read the article.  The States involved in the compacts listed will likely re open slower than the other states.  It s likely that red states with red governors will open as soon after April 30 Presidential recommendation for social distancing ends as per medical and science facts for their areas.  Blue states will likely put off resuming their economies as long as possible.  The test will be when the Presidents commission clears regions county by county based on evidence and cleared counties are within a state the governor is keeping locked down as a whole and a governor refuses to allow cleared counties in his or her state to return to work.  California, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New York could see rural regions of their states cleared with their governor not letting them go.  Then the constitution powers of a governor vs a President with emergency declarations in all 50 states will be settled as rural areas in these states would side with the President against their own governor in a heartbeat and sue for the federal rules to apply.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.3.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Freewill @3.3.11    4 years ago
I know it is not a direct quote from Trump, in fact I am the only one of us who cared to point that out initially. And of course it was misleading and I clearly indicated why with links to what he actually said, corroboration from an expert in Dr. Fauci, and reasoned analysis.  I am not the one misrepresenting anything. 

I dont know what your problem is. You keep doubling down with an argument that is hopeless.   Trump said YESTERDAY that he has the authority to do whatever he wants , in relation to the coronavirus or anything else.  

And he has said he takes no responsibility for the response to coronavirus. 

These are not statements that are mystrerious or unknown or even ambiguous. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.3.15  Sparty On  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.3.12    4 years ago

Not ours in Michigan.    She likes people to be dependent on government.    She wants people to be dependent on government.

Her measures are draconian and go way too far for most of the state.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.3.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sparty On @3.3.15    4 years ago

Motorboats "outlawed" (for lack of a better term) and issuing tickets and warnings to fishermen and women just because is just stupid IMHO

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.3.17  Sparty On  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.16    4 years ago

No paint for you.

Gretchen the paint nazi.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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3.3.18  KDMichigan  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.16    4 years ago

A buddy got a ticket the other day for violating Whitmers stay at home order for being out on his side by side with his wife. I seen the ticket. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.3.19  Sparty On  replied to  KDMichigan @3.3.18    4 years ago

That ticket means nothing.    Use it for toilet paper

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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3.3.20  KDMichigan  replied to  Sparty On @3.3.19    4 years ago

I want one to frame as a keepsake...

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.3.21  Sparty On  replied to  KDMichigan @3.3.20    4 years ago

I had a skinhead hassle me Saturday at my cabin, ten miles from my house.    Didn’t give me a coupon but I dared him to.

That said I totally agree with the concept.    People traveling to a second home in a safer area like ours from a hot spot like Detroit but a little common sense goes a long way.    Travel like that in the same zip code with social distancing is not a problem in the least.

But Gretchen the grinder is going to see how much more badly she can help screw up the economy and hopefully secure a VP slot.

Sad!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.4  Tacos!  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3    4 years ago
dragging his feet when there was plenty of intel available last year

It's hard to think of him doing anything before January that there would have been any support for. Even the China move was attacked and that happened at the end of January.

He claims that he restricted travel

He did restrict it. It wasn't intended to stop all traffic. It restricted some traffic. I can't even imagine the hollering if he had tried to stop all traffic coming from the entire country. For one thing, that would have involved separating family members. Remember how much we hate that?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3    4 years ago

Their creation of the virus, their subsequent coverup and lies, and then cornering of the supplies the rest of the world needed and then the travel ban from Wuhan to other Chinese cities while letting them spread it world wide by travel all are the acts of a malevolent enemy. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.6.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.6    4 years ago

There has been zero proof that the Chinese "created" the virus. There is evidence that they covered up the spread within their nation. You can't blame them for cornering the market when it was our policies (and lack there of) that let them do that. That lies clearly on our doorstep. 

Now, do I trust the Chinese government? The answer is clearly no. They are a dictatorship.  But let's get real about what IS real. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.6.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.6.1    4 years ago

Those bats lived 600 miles from Wuhan.  The labs there have created 2000 new viruses over the last 20 years or so. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.6.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.6.2    4 years ago

It didn't transmit from bats. They were the intermediate animal. It came from Pangolins, which were sold in the market. 

And no one knows anything about what goes on in that lab, just like no one knows what goes on in our labs, or the other 13 "defensive" labs, all including ours are not supposed to exist, but do.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.6.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to    4 years ago

Every nation knows that no one can win in germ warfare, hence why we refer to them as "defense labs". 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.6.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to    4 years ago

Accidental release from a lab is nothing more than speculation - a much more logical explanation is from the wildlife at the Wuhan Wet Market.  However, I can understand how Americans will bend over backwards trying to find any possible way and excuse to point fingers, blame, shame and accuse China for whatever, even things that the USA has done itself.  For example, ignoring the imprisonment of loyal Japanese Americans during WW2 and torturing prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, and separating children from their parents in migrant camps BUT pointing a finger at the Uyghur re-education and vocational camps.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.6.8  Ronin2  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.6.7    4 years ago

Who gives a hell how the virus originated?

China lied about the dangers of the virus. China sure as hell didn't take the proper steps to stop the spread of the virus outside of their country,  They are responsible for the situation the rest of the world is in.

As for the rest of your BS. 

How long ago was WWII? We have learned from our mistakes, internment camps could never happen today in the US. Also, there is sure as hell a difference between torturing foreign terrorists out to destroy you, and torturing your own population. As for the children at illegal immigrant camps- blame the fucking parents that brought them. Of course China wouldn't know anything about that- because no illegal immigrants want to enter Chinese militarized borders to try and find a better life that doesn't exist.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.6.9  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ronin2 @3.6.8    4 years ago

Good luck with the virus, Ronin2.  Hope you survive.  jrSmiley_34_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.6.11  Tessylo  replied to    4 years ago

Okay then, we will take the word of an alleged FBI employee over all experts on the subject. 

Got it

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.6.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.6.7    4 years ago

Yep, America, your country’s best ally and next door neighbor where some of your own kids live or have lived must be the worst nation on the face of the earth to the government in China. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.6.13  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.6.12    4 years ago

Actually my daughter lives in Toronto and my son lives in Milwuakee and I'm very concerned about both of them - I think they would have been safer here with me.   

Be careful and stay safe DJTF#1, don't ignore the guidelines about voluntary quarantine, social distancing, wearing a mask and wash hands often and carefully. I'm sure the American numbers are so high is because so many are ignoring the guidelines - I've watched newsreels that show that.  I don't wish the virus on any NT member whether or not they are understanding or insulting. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.6.14  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.6.13    4 years ago

I’m being careful.  I live in a small city in a rural area 160 miles from Sacramento and the outer Bay Area Vacaville where people are careful with masks , social distancing, and washing hands.  Our region of the state is likely the least obedient of the governor as to not staying home.  We’ve had 25 cases here, all had contact with someone in the Bay Area or Sacramento who had it.  3 of the 25 died that had multiple other conditions and the majority have recovered fully.  3 in hospital none in ICU, rest quarantined at home.  25 out of 180,000 only one new case in last 6 days. I and many here expect along with the counties in Ca. surrounding (Trinity, Siskiyou, Modoc, Lassen, Plumas, Tehama) our Shasta county to be among the first batch of counties in the country to be allowed to go to work on May Day.  The schools won’t open until August most likely so that means google classroom as long as it takes to complete this school year. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.6.16  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to    4 years ago

It seems that time and secret documents as well as US intelligence services have proved us right.  It’s all on China despite democrats wishes to blame Trump instead of their paymasters. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.6.17  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.6.16    4 years ago
It’s all on China despite democrats wishes to blame Trump instead of their paymasters. 

What are you talking about? Do you actually think that people are not blaming China for the virus or do you just like to blame everything on the democrats? Trump's mistake was underestimating it from the get-go, not getting testing up faster (only he can do that) and now making this political theater. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
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4  bbl-1    4 years ago

Nah.  It's a different moment and the Trump is blaming something else for his lack of reading, comprehending and understanding.  Nobody else has anything to do with this.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    4 years ago
The  Democrats  and the media are now more interested in blaming Trump, rather than the Chinese communists, for COVID-19.

We are in the United States, not China, therefore we are more interested in the failures of our president than we are in the failures of China.  I hope that clears things up for you. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 years ago
we are more interested in the failures of our president

You mean you're more interested in winning the next election. If you were interested in failures that matter, you'd be talking about a lot more people than just Trump.

 
 
 
lib50
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5.1.1  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @5.1    4 years ago
You mean you're more interested in winning the next election.

Did you miss that campaign ad Trump ran at that rally this afternoon?  

Transparent projection there Tacos

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  lib50 @5.1.1    4 years ago

Your reference is irrelevant to the topic.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.2    4 years ago

No, that would be your input

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lib50 @5.1.1    4 years ago

There was a campaign rally today? How did I miss that? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.3    4 years ago

No, that would be your input.

 
 
 
lib50
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5.1.6  lib50  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.4    4 years ago
There was a campaign rally today? How did I miss that? 

I guess you don't watch your leader.  He played a campaign ad in the middle of the shitshow, defending his actions.  A freaking campaign ad.  Who the fuck does that in the middle of a pandemic killing thousands of Americans?  Of course, who else talks about their ratings during a pandemic briefing?  Nobody, they are substitute campaign rallies.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.5    4 years ago

No, that would be your input 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Participates
5.1.8  KDMichigan  replied to  lib50 @5.1.6    4 years ago

I could understand his reasoning, Most TDS sufferers do not have the intelligence to understand written facts so a slide show is more appropriate for them. That is like the idiots that think Obama's pandemic response team would have served any purpose in stopping the virus in Wuhan. 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
5.1.9  lib50  replied to  KDMichigan @5.1.8    4 years ago
I could understand his reasoning

Of course you do.  Yet you don't comment on the appropriateness of Trump's comments on ratings and lying to defend his incompetence.  Instead we get another Obama moment.  And you accuse others of TDS (which is funny since its total projection of the the gops defense of everything Trump no matter what). 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.1.10  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lib50 @5.1.6    4 years ago

It wasn’t a campaign ad.  It was simply pointing out to the media the things they were saying on the air at the time they say Trump should have done more.  He called them out and dressed them down to their faces and it was beautiful to behold it.  

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
5.1.11  Thrawn 31  replied to  Tacos! @5.1    4 years ago

Trump is the president, if he wants all the credit for good things, he gets all the shit for bad things. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
5.1.12  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.10    4 years ago

Seriously, this "Trump is a tough guy and a fighter" schtick is so old. He is a bitch and only feels tough because he know ths people he goes in front of really can't say much. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.13  Tacos!  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.1.11    4 years ago

I don't object to criticizing Trump. I just think it's extreme to act like the pandemic is his fault or that he was the lone voice in the wilderness poo-pooing the virus while everyone else was clamoring for action. It's just not true.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
5.1.14  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.13    4 years ago

I don't know who you say is blaming him for the virus.  What he is responsible for are his actions and lack thereof.  And he blew it BIG TIME.  He is the president and people not only knew things were bad, they told him. Over and over.  But Trump knows more than the experts, he tells us every fricken day.  And he didn't listen to any of them in the beginning.  He didn't plan for the needs of a pandemic.  He fired the people who deal with pandemics, FFS.  He hires only suck up toadies, nothing to do with competence. He lied to us and he lies today.  He is the president, as he (and you all) tell us ad nauseam, so why don't you expect him to act like one?  Instead he whines when he can't answer tough questions denies responsibility and acts like a goddamn junior high bully.  So damn embarrassing and so damn deadly to America.  He IS responsible for more deaths because he sat on his ass for months instead of preparing.  And you are trying to defend that. 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
5.1.16  lib50  replied to    4 years ago

Every word I posted is true and happened.  If you can prove otherwise, knock yourself out. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.17  Tacos!  replied to  lib50 @5.1.14    4 years ago
people not only knew things were bad, they told him. Over and over. But Trump knows more than the experts, he tells us every fricken day.  And he didn't listen to any of them in the beginning.

Not true. Dr. Fauci said (just yesterday I think) that Trump acted as soon as they made actual recommendations to him.

There is a lot of talk about WHO today, which apparently engaged in quite a bit of covering up and disinformation related to the virus. That limited their ability to make responsible recommendations. For example, it's hard to justify limiting travel or demand social distancing when WHO is telling you there is no evidence of person-to-person transmission.

He IS responsible for more deaths

No, he isn't. And absent something really dramatic and obvious - and there isn't anything like that - there would be no way to quantify the number of deaths he is responsible for.

One thing that is likely, is that his actions have saved some lives. He asked Congress for money to help people, limited travel into the country, while being called xenophobic for doing it, he has helped states with supplies, dispatched hospital ships, and more. Democratic governors have praised him for his help. Insisting that the opposite is true is to ignore the actual facts.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.18  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.17    4 years ago

You are correct.  Dr. Fauci did say that when he and the commission made recommendations Trump followed them.  

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
5.1.19  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.17    4 years ago

Yes, he is, and he had the intel Dr. Fauci.  Fauci doesn't get intel reports.  And he is not the only expert.  Don't even try to start blaming him for Trump's failures. 

United States intelligence agencies were warning President Donald Trump about an impending pandemic as early as January, The Washington Post reported .

Officials were giving Trump classified briefings on the matter at the same time that the president was publicly downplaying the risk of the novel coronavirus and insisting the US was well prepared to handle the outbreak.

The Post reported that intelligence documents closely tracked the virus' spread in Wuhan, China, where it originated and as it later progressed through mainland China, but they did not specify when the disease would make it to the US. 

"The system was blinking red," one US official with access to the intelligence told The Post. Agencies "have been warning on this since January."

"Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were — they just couldn't get him to do anything about it," 

Both in Washington, D.C., and internationally, health officials had been warning about the dangers posed by COVID-19 since at least January, with some early signals going back to December, when the illness emerged in the Wuhan province of China. Those warnings continued into February, well before the White House began taking serious steps to increase testing and treatment efforts ― a delay that experts said has significantly undermined the national response.

Indeed, by mid-January, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar told the president that the virus — which had already spread through China ― could pose a threat domestically, too, according to reporting by The New York Times , The Washington Post and Politico.

Then, by the end of the month, Azar declared it a “public health emergency” in the United States. According to the Times report, Dr. Robert Redfield, who heads the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, had also by that point realized “that it had a great ability to go global.”

“The alarm was sounded in January,” said Jennifer Kates, a global health expert at the Kaiser Family Foundation. “This wasn’t a surprise.” (Kaiser Health News is an editorially independent program of the foundation.)

At that point, researchers told us, decisive and widespread federal action could have made a big difference.

But publicly, Trump was still comparing the coronavirus to the flu, downplaying the risk on Twitter and television, and declaring repeatedly that the new virus was under control.

Warnings from others continued. On Feb. 25 , Dr. Nancy Messonnier, who runs CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, also highlighted the risk the virus would pose.

And of course, the coronavirus warnings didn’t come only from Washington.

On Jan. 30, the World Health Organization declared the virus a “Public Health Emergency of International Concern,” citing its rapid spread since December, when it emerged in China.

The long lag in believing it was bad and actually doing the mitigating does cause more deaths, and that is a fact, you can look at the curves and how they are impacted by early intervention.  Trump still won't even get us testing at the rate we should be, and wants to reopen business before those tests (which are vital) are available on the scale they need to be. But there is definitely a higher death rate because Trump can't competently handle a disaster.  That is a fact.  This post is long enough, do I have to post a graph too?

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.20  Tacos!  replied to  lib50 @5.1.19    4 years ago

I'm curious what specifically you think Trump should have done, could have done, and by what specific date?

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
5.1.21  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.20    4 years ago

He should have had the pandemic experts advising him. And listened to them.  He should have been procuring necessary medical equipment. All departments should have had virus responsibilities and getting on top of anything that may arise. He should have LISTENED to all the experts.  He should have never lied about it.  He should LEAD instead of blame and whine nobody praises him enough. He should be focused on the pandemic and not his damn ratings and how much tv time he gets.  He should not try to play doctor and recommend any medical advice, that is what the experts are for.  Need more?  Because I have them.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.22  Tacos!  replied to  lib50 @5.1.21    4 years ago
Need more?

Yeah, because nothing you said actually saves anybody's life. Except maybe the equipment thing and we seem to be doing pretty well on that front.

A lot of the other stuff isn't really true. He has been listening to experts. The experts even say so. He hasn't lied about the virus as near as I can tell.

You're basically demanding that he behave in a way he actually has. That's why scientists and Democratic Party leaders have been praising him for the way he has worked with them. You seem to be ignoring that.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
5.1.23  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.22    4 years ago

HE DID NOT LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS AND INTEL EARLY ON.  That is a fact.  And if you don't understand how that lack of action preparing is responsible for more deaths, you shouldn't even be freaking commenting.  Its science and medicine and multiple people here have posted that information, which is also available  in pictures (graphs).  He is abdicating his federal responsibilities TODAY. We are all tired of Trumpers posting Trump's LIES about what he did and didn't do and know and explaining why the delay causes more death.  I post links all the time nobody must read because they keep repeating lies and bullshit instead of fact.

scientists and Democratic Party leaders have been praising him for the way he has worked with them. You seem to be ignoring that.

Holy shit, where have you been?  The entire WORLD knows the only way you reach Trump is through nauseating praise.  You should hear what the world says about him and how easy he is to manipulate. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.24  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  lib50 @5.1.23    4 years ago

You don't have a damned clue who he was listening to.  

You should hear what the world says about him and how easy he is to manipulate. 

So you are the most well traveled person on this site and have heard it first hand? Awesome. Can you give us some quotes? I am sure you took notes. Neat.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
5.1.25  lib50  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.24    4 years ago

Sure.  [ deleted ]

But according to Julia Davis, who monitors Russian media, pro-Kremlin media doesn't want the president removed from office anytime soon.

"Have you lost your minds that you want to remove our Donald Ivanovych?" she quoted the TV host Vladimir Soloviev sarcastically remarking about the proceedings in a Wednesday article for The Daily Beast .

The host's nickname plays on Trump's full name, Donald John Trump, with "Ivan" the Russian form of John, and according to Davis is characteristic of the patronizing tone often struck by Russian pundits when discussing the US president.

Almost every world leader has played some variation on Mr Xi’s theme. With Mr Trump, so the theory goes, flattery gets you everywhere — the more outrageous the better.  Please use the sharing tools found via the share button at the top or side of articles. Copying articles to share with others is a breach of FT.com [ T&Cs ] and Copyright Policy . Email licensing@ft.com to buy additional rights. Subscribers may share up to 10 or 20 articles per month using the gift article service. More information can be found here .


South Korea’s president, Moon Jae-in, thinks Mr Trump deserves a Nobel Prize for his upcoming summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. That was an astute prospect to dangle given that Barack Obama — Mr Trump’s predecessor, whose legacy he is determined to erase — was awarded the Nobel Prize simply for the promise of what he might do. To Mr Trump’s visible pleasure, rally-goers in the US have started to chant “Nobel! Nobel!”. Others, such as Japan’s Shinzo Abe, have come bearing ostentatious gifts. In the first of two visits to Mar-a-Lago, Mr Trump’s “winter White House”, Japan’s prime minister gave him a bag of golden golf clubs. Most of the Gulf states, and Japan, have contributed generously to a $500m “Women’s Entrepreneur Fund” set up by the World Bank on behalf of Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter. Last month, Jim Kim, president of the bank, secured what he wanted — Mr Trump’s support for a $13bn capital increase. Mr Kim had been introduced to the president by Ivanka. They have since played golf.
“It is like one of those movie scenes where tribesmen bring overflowing fruit baskets to the volcano,” says Kurt Campbell, the most senior Asia diplomat in Mr Obama’s administration. “Flattery is seen as the best way to prevent eruptions.”

Helsinki, Finland -- "Weak," a "poodle," and a "stooge:" these were some of the ways European newspapers described President Donald Trump following his summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin this week.

On Tuesday, headlines and op-eds in major papers across Europe slammed Trump's decision to side with Putin over his own intelligence agencies on whether Russia meddled in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Many outlets said the summit had made Trump appear craven and outmaneuvered by a more experienced Russian leader whom he was all too eager to befriend.

Spanish newspaper El Mundo ran with the headline "Trump surrenders to Putin after humiliating Europe."

British paper The Mirror branded Trump "Putin’s Poodle."

France’s paper-of-record, Le Monde, opened its editorial on the summit with a single word: "Weak."

Russian state television had a field day following President Donald Trump's summit with North Korea, hailing the meeting as a significant achievement for the Asian nation's leader Kim Jong Un and a failure for the U.S.

Gleb Ivashentsev, Russia's former ambassador to North Korea, shared high praise for Kim on Russia's version of 60 Minutes . He hailed the 35-year-old leader as having achieved more than his father and grandfather before him "by forcing the head of the largest imperialist nation to negotiate with him as an equal," The Daily Beast reported Tuesday.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.26  Tacos!  replied to  lib50 @5.1.23    4 years ago
HE DID NOT LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS AND INTEL EARLY ON.  That is a fact.

I'd be interested in your proof of this. Though I doubt you have any. You also can't refute the fact that the experts have actually said multiple times that he does listen to them. It just makes it easier for you to hate him if you make yourself imagine these behaviors he's not really doing.

And if you don't understand how that lack of action preparing is responsible for more deaths, you shouldn't even be freaking commenting.

I think if you can't prove your claims, you shouldn't make them.

The entire WORLD knows the only way you reach Trump is through nauseating praise. 

We are talking about people who have had no qualms criticizing him, and those criticisms are well documented, so your argument kinda fails.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
5.1.27  lib50  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.26    4 years ago

God, Tacos, it has been proven Trump didn't listen to the early intel. How many damn times do people have to post what Trump missed?

United States intelligence agencies were warning President Donald Trump about an impending pandemic as early as January, The Washington Post reported .

Officials were giving Trump classified briefings on the matter at the same time that the president was publicly downplaying the risk of the novel coronavirus and insisting the US was well prepared to handle the outbreak.

The Post reported that intelligence documents closely tracked the virus' spread in Wuhan, China, where it originated and as it later progressed through mainland China, but they did not specify when the disease would make it to the US. 

"The system was blinking red," one US official with access to the intelligence told The Post. Agencies "have been warning on this since January."

"Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were — they just couldn't get him to do anything about it," the official added.

Our intel even told our Israeli allies.  AND TRUMP, WHO DIDN'T LISTEN OR PAY ATTENTION.

US intelligence agencies alerted Israel to the coronavirus outbreak in China already in November, Israeli television reported Thursday.

According to Channel 12 news, the US intelligence community became aware of the emerging disease in Wuhan in the second week of that month and drew up a classified document. 

Information on the disease outbreak was not in the public domain at that stage — and was known only apparently to the Chinese government. 

US intelligence informed the Trump administration, “which did not deem it of interest,” but the report said the Americans also decided to update two allies with the classified document: NATO and Israel, specifically the IDF. 
 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
5.1.29  lib50  replied to  Release The Kraken @5.1.28    4 years ago

[Deleted]  (Not an endearment, something a friend from Fargo ND used to say).  Are you trying to LIE about Trump's connections to Russia and his submission to Putin?  [deleted] that is Trump's propaganda lie.  Trumpworld connections to Russia are well documented in Mueller's report.  Stop lying about what what reported.  The entire world is sick of that word 'hoax' being tossed out every time Trump gets smacked upside the head with FACTS.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
5.1.30  lib50  replied to  lib50 @5.1.29    4 years ago

FYI, it was an exclamatory word.  Like Wow!  Holy schnikes! 

Exclamatory words are words that generate a strong emotional response.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.32  Tacos!  replied to  lib50 @5.1.27    4 years ago
it has been proven Trump didn't listen to the early intel

No it hasn't. Your stories are innuendo and exaggeration based on unsourced rumors. For example, in your first link:

according to four sources briefed on the secret reporting

and it has been denied officially:w

Wednesday night, the Pentagon issued a statement denying the "product/assessment" existed.

In your second link, they cite to The Washington Post, which isn't terribly helpful, but it does quote Trump as denying it publicly and including Dr. Fauci and the other people around him in the denial. If they disagreed, they could have said so, but they haven't.

Trump included other members of the coronavirus task force in his flat denial of the report: "[Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Anthony Fauci] and all of the people, the talent, that we have would have loved to have had three or four months of additional time if you knew this was going to be happening. They didn’t have that time. They read it about it in newspapers like everybody else. China was very secretive."

Your third link sources Israeli TV news, which we can't vet, but the story itself doesn't pass the basic smell test.

US intelligence informed the Trump administration, “which did not deem it of interest,” but the report said the Americans also decided to update two allies with the classified document: NATO and Israel, specifically the IDF.

So the US did not deem it of interest, but nevertheless notified NATO? Why would they if it's not of interest? That doesn't make sense.

It also doesn't make sense that every single one of the 30 member nations of NATO ignored this allegedly important report and also none of them are publicly saying the report existed. 

The story also goes on to say that Israel ignored this report. So if this report existed - and it very likely did not - Absolutely every country in the world that was exposed to it chose to ignore it. 

So I'm sorry to tell you that your claim hasn't been proven at all.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.1.34  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to    4 years ago

It’s clear that China is responsible for the situation being what it is as secret documents have discovered.  The Chicom regime upon realizing the extent of what had happened hid all the evidence and lied and engaged in policies to equalize the economic damage it would sustain around the world to all its economic competitors.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6  Sean Treacy    4 years ago

hey, China has donated lots of PPE that doesn't work, so who cares if they lied about the virus.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
6.1  lib50  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    4 years ago
China has donated lots of PPE that doesn't work

So did Trump, forget that already?  All the ventilators that didn't work from the stockpile?

I think most of the world expects China lied about the virus, and knew they would.  And the world can deal with it together.  Trump lied about the virus too.  And we need to deal with that. Jackass still lying today. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
6.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lib50 @6.1    4 years ago

We are going to deal with him by re electing him for 4 more years.

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
6.1.2  pat wilson  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.1    4 years ago

As my Mama used to say " don't count your chickens 'til your eggs are hatched".

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  lib50 @6.1    4 years ago

Is that Trump's fault? Was he the one that purchased them? Was he the one in charge of making sure they were all stored properly, and were in working order? Or was that previous presidents' issues?

As for lying- the Democrats are lying well past Trump. They blasted Trump for the few actions he took. They haven't named one damn thing they would have done differently. And they are investigating him, yet again, for his response. Impeachment attempt part III. Yeah, they are so fucking fit to lead. We need to deal with the fucking Democrats, and their party before country BS before anything else.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  pat wilson @6.1.2    4 years ago

The Democrats know all about that after the last presidential elections. Hopefully they will find out again.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
6.1.5  lib50  replied to  Ronin2 @6.1.4    4 years ago

One word.  Wisconsin.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
6.1.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  lib50 @6.1.5    4 years ago

What about Wisconsin???? exactly??

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.6    4 years ago

Maybe it’s a code word .....

Avocado

Rumplestiltskin

Rosebud

Hopefully one of those opens the magic bag .....

 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
6.1.8  lib50  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.7    4 years ago

What fun would that be?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
6.1.9  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lib50 @6.1    4 years ago

But Trump!  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
6.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    4 years ago

They also sold PPE’s to countries that had donated them the PPE’s when it first started. In the case of Italy it was they exact same materials.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
7  It Is ME    4 years ago

W.H.O. is more important, especially when Trump said he'd cut them off ! jrSmiley_54_smiley_image.gif

Never cut off something Democrats like, no matter how many times what they like …..fucks up !

Besides...."Impeachment" was more important than anything on this "Planet" (Timing for Covid-19 growth).

And if you ask what the Democrats shoulda done....I'll say …… at least what TRUMP has done. It woulda been .....something..... other than what they "Didn't Do " !! jrSmiley_103_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @7    4 years ago

How do we cut off tRump who has fucked up everything?

We need to get Democrats back in the White House who are able to do more than one thing at a time.

We wouldn't have disassembled the pandemic response team that President Obama put in place and ignore all warnings since probably as early as late November 

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
7.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @7.1    4 years ago
How do we cut off tRump who has fucked up everything ?

Do expand on that (Since Newsome and Cuomo have already said Trumps done a good job) ! jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
7.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.2    4 years ago

Apparently..... Praise of someone from the Opposite ……. "Persuasion"...…... is ignored when said by a Democrat. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
7.1.5  It Is ME  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.4    4 years ago
Doesn't fit into their whole "Orange Man Bad" thingy they have going on

This "Orange Guy Bad" thingy, is getting as tiresome as the constant barrage of "COV-19 SUPER Bad"..... News.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Participates
7.1.6  KDMichigan  replied to  Tessylo @7.1    4 years ago
President Obama put in place

Maybe if the piece of shit Obama would have restocked the national stockpile after the swine flu we wouldn't be short supplies now. The SoB obama  is still leading from behind.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
7.1.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  KDMichigan @7.1.6    4 years ago

Some people SPAM the shit out of that statement.............

jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

And Mr. Obama is expected to endorse Biden today................

jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  It Is ME @7    4 years ago

He did it today.  Total cut off! 👍👏🇺🇸

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
7.2.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.2    4 years ago

Not at all. Congress has to approve it withing 45 days or else the funding is restored.

Gonna be restored. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Thrawn 31 @7.2.1    4 years ago

You think that 2/3 of both the House and the Senate will vote to restore funding to China’s 🇨🇳  Prostitute?  

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
9  Thrawn 31    4 years ago

The Chinese Government fucked up because they are assholes, and Trump fucked up because he is an asshole. Shit, while this was unfolding Trump was giving Xi blowjobs. 

We got fucked by both governments and their inability to admit any miscalculation or that things may not be sunshine and rainbows. We got fucked by a bunch of goddamn snowflakes who are afraid of any challenge and immediately shy away and deny it exists, and then whine and bitch about everyone else.

Zero sense of personal responsibility, Xi's China and Trump's America are exactly the same in spirit. Only difference is one piece of shit actually has "total authority over the states" and the other is just jerking off over his portrait. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
10  Buzz of the Orient    4 years ago

"Pandemic update of the song Somebody To Love"

(with apologies to its composers, The Great Society)

When the truth is found
To be lies
And all the joy
Within you dies

Don't you want somebody to blame?
Don't you need somebody to blame?
Wouldn't you love somebody to hate?
You better find somebody to blame.

When your family and friends, 
Baby, don't know what to do
And your mind, your mind
Is so full of RED.

Don't you want somebody to blame?
Don't you need somebody to blame?
Wouldn't you love somebody to hate?
You better find somebody to blame

You point and say Obama
Then surely it was China
Even WHO, and the media as well,
I'm afraid you won't admit the truth.

Don't you want somebody to blame?
Don't you need somebody to blame?
Wouldn't you love somebody to hate?
You better find somebody to blame.

Time's a'wasting while you seek 
Somebody else to blame
And your family and friends, baby
Are dying while you do.

Don't you want somebody to blame?
Don't you need somebody to blame?
Wouldn't you love somebody to hate?
You better find somebody to blame.

 
 

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