Outside Trump's Tulsa rally site, few face masks and no social distancing

  

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Via:  krishna  •  3 weeks ago  •  403 comments

By:   Lauren Egan

Outside Trump's Tulsa rally site, few face masks and no social distancing
In conversations with dozens of Trump supporters lined up outside a convention center in downtown Tulsa to attend the president’s campaign rally on Saturday, many said they were not worried about contracting the illness and did not plan to follow strict precautions during the event.

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A supporter of US President Donald Trump takes a selfie near the BOK Center on June 19, 2020, in Tulsa, Oklahoma. - Trump will hold his first rally since the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic on June 20,2020. (Photo by SETH HERALD / AFP) (Photo by SETH HERALD/AFP via Getty Images)

I n conversations with dozens of Trump supporters lined up outside a convention center in downtown Tulsa to attend the president’s campaign rally on Saturday, many said they were not worried about contracting the illness and did not plan to follow strict precautions during the event. Many Trump supporters also cast doubt on the severity of the outbreak and said that, regardless, they had a right to choose to put themselves.

"This is a free country and I can do what I want. If I want to wear a mask, I wear a mask. If I don’t, I don't. If I get sick, I get sick. That's my choice," Tom continued, adding that he thought the number of coronavirus deaths was being "padded."

Sheri agreed: "Some of these numbers aren't real."


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Krishna
1  seeder  Krishna    3 weeks ago

In conversations with dozens of Trump supporters lined up outside a convention center in downtown Tulsa to attend the president’s campaign rally on Saturday, many said they were not worried about contracting the illness and did not plan to follow strict precautions during the event.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Krishna @1    3 weeks ago

There will thousands of anti-Trump protestors there also, aren't you a bit concerned about them?

Especially when it comes to distancing.

 
 
 
Suz
1.1.1  Suz  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 weeks ago

If they haven't shown up by now, will they show up at all? 

 
 
 
Krishna
1.1.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Suz @1.1.1    3 weeks ago
If they haven't shown up by now, will they show up at all? 

An excellent question! jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Gordy327
1.2  Gordy327  replied to  Krishna @1    3 weeks ago

Few face masks, no social distancing, but lots of stupidity apparently. 

 
 
 
gooseisgone
1.2.1  gooseisgone  replied to  Gordy327 @1.2    3 weeks ago
Few face masks, no social distancing, but lots of stupidity apparently.

Now........do you have the same criticism of the protest and demonstrations or are they somehow immune from the virus?

 
 
 
Gordy327
1.2.2  Gordy327  replied to  gooseisgone @1.2.1    3 weeks ago

Yes, I do have the same criticisms. But im not talking about riots and demonstrations. So what's your point?

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.2.3  Sparty On  replied to  Gordy327 @1.2.2    3 weeks ago

You know what his point is.  

You criticize one but not the other thus exposing your bias.   Unless of course you can show us how you criticized the other as vociferously.    In which case i'll offer my apologies.

No apologies forthcoming from what i've seen

 
 
 
gooseisgone
1.2.4  gooseisgone  replied to  Gordy327 @1.2.2    3 weeks ago

My point is why hasn't the media lost it's collective minds over the demonstrations but, has a heart attack about a rally.   

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.5  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.3    3 weeks ago

Gordy asserted his position: 

Gordy @1.2.2 ☞ Yes, I do have the same criticisms.

Nobody is required to prove their personal position to you.   Proof enters the picture when someone makes a claim of certainty in contrast to a personal opinion or belief.

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.6  TᵢG  replied to  gooseisgone @1.2.4    3 weeks ago
My point is why hasn't the media lost it's collective minds over the demonstrations but, has a heart attack about a rally.   

Media, today, is blatantly biased.   One can dial in the bias one prefers.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
1.2.7  Gordy327  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.3    3 weeks ago

I didn't bring up riots and demonstrations. And i was asked if I criticize both. I gave you my answer. If you don't like it or accept if, I don't really care. That's your problem, not mine! And I didn't ask for any apology either.

 
 
 
Gordy327
1.2.8  Gordy327  replied to  gooseisgone @1.2.4    3 weeks ago

Why ask me? Ask the media. I suspect it has to do with, as TiG suggests, bias. Especially where politics is concerned.

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.2.9  Sparty On  replied to  Gordy327 @1.2.7    3 weeks ago
I didn't bring up riots and demonstrations.

I didn't say you did

And i was asked if I criticize both. I gave you my answer.

And i responded, calling bullshit.   I've never seen you criticize the other side here but you are quick to criticize Trump supporters.   Showing a clear double standard and bias.   No debate about it.

If you don't like it or accept if, I don't really care. That's your problem, not mine!

Lol sounds like you do.   If you didn't "really care" you wouldn't respond.

And I didn't ask for any apology either.

I didn't say you did.   You seem to be having comprehension problems with my post but i'm here to help.   Any other questions?

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.10  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.9    3 weeks ago
And i responded, calling bullshit.  

In effect, calling Gordy a liar:  

goosie @1.2.1 Now........do you have the same criticism of the protest and demonstrations or are they somehow immune from the virus?

Gordy @1.2.2Yes, I do have the same criticisms

Sparty On @1.2.9 And i responded, calling bullshit.
 
 
 
It Is ME
1.2.11  It Is ME  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.10    3 weeks ago
Yes, I do have the same criticisms

Where.....would be a nice thing to link to !

But riots and demonstrators are above "Criticism" after all. 

"Enquiring minds"....REALLY want to know !

 
 
 
It Is ME
1.2.12  It Is ME  replied to  It Is ME @1.2.11    3 weeks ago

These "Frick and Frack" protection episodes are getting old !

"What he/she meant or didn't mean".....that is !

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.13  TᵢG  replied to  It Is ME @1.2.11    3 weeks ago

Common courtesy is to accept as truth what another person claims as their personal position until they contradict themselves.   Demanding someone prove their stated personal position not only is tantamount to calling the person a liar, but it presumes to know an individuals thoughts better than the individual.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.2.14  KDMichigan  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.9    3 weeks ago

I see some people still need to try to explain other peoples comments. They should stick to what they do best, hating Christians.

And I'm with you, I would like to see once where he called out any one on the left, seems we always here the same old song and dance from our resident 'Indies. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.15  TᵢG  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.14    3 weeks ago
They should stick to what they do best, hating Christians.

Who hates Christians?  

I see some people still need to try to explain other peoples comments.

Some people like to pick fights and engage in dishonest tactics.   I understand it is difficult to rebut being called out on that so they resort to complaining that they or a friend were called out.   My advice is to make comments grounded on a solid foundation so that one has the ability to make a thoughtful, honest rebuttal.

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.2.16  Sparty On  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.14    3 weeks ago

Any help i can give our opinionated friends on the left i am glad to do it.

I aim to please .....

 
 
 
It Is ME
1.2.17  It Is ME  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.13    3 weeks ago
Common courtesy is to accept as truth what another person claims as their personal position until they contradict themselves. 

There is no Courtesy "Required", when someone just makes a statement. "Questioning" would make for a "Learning Experience". We all want to "Learn".....right ?

"Common" doesn't mean what it used to these days !

Do YOU accept a "Persons" statement as acceptable truth ?

Do YOU not question the "Statement" made by the "Person" ?

Do you...and the Other....NOT ask for "Proof" of a statement ?

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.18  TᵢG  replied to  It Is ME @1.2.17    3 weeks ago
There is no Courtesy "Required", when someone just makes a statement.

Sure there is.   If you claim, for example, to be considering Islam it would be courteous to take you at your word until such time that you contradict yourself.

Do YOU accept a "Persons" statement as acceptable truth ?

I am talking about a person articulating his personal position; not just any statement he makes.   Yes, I accept as truth a person's stated personal position.  If they later contradict this then I will reconsider.   That is common courtesy since nobody knows another person's personal position better than the person himself.

 
 
 
Gordy327
1.2.19  Gordy327  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.9    3 weeks ago
And i responded, calling bullshit. 

I don't really care. You can believe whatever you want. But my answer is the same.

 I've never seen you criticize the other side here but you are quick to criticize Trump supporters.   Showing a clear double standard and bias.   No debate about it.

When the topic of discussion turns to "the other side," then I'll address that. And I didn't say anything about Trump supporters here. Neither have I said much about Trump in general in these discussions.

  If you didn't "really care" you wouldn't respond.

You responded to me so I responded back. That's how these things usually work.

I didn't say you did.

Then any offer of apology on your part is immaterial.

  You seem to be having comprehension problems with my post but i'm here to help.   Any other questions?

Yes, got anything to actually discuss other than your usual snark?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.2.20  KDMichigan  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.18    3 weeks ago
I am talking about a person articulating his personal position;

But wait I thought a person was entitled to change their position, thats what you said before. [removed.]

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TᵢG
1.2.21  TᵢG  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.20    3 weeks ago

Where do I claim a person cannot change their position?

Can you make a reply to me that does not include fabrications or make things personal?

 
 
 
It Is ME
1.2.22  It Is ME  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.18    3 weeks ago
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TᵢG
1.2.23  TᵢG  replied to  It Is ME @1.2.22    3 weeks ago

Pay attention.   I have throughout explicitly distinguished a personal position from a factual claim of certainty (where there is the burden of proof)

 
 
 
It Is ME
1.2.24  It Is ME  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.23    3 weeks ago
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Trout Giggles
1.2.25  Trout Giggles  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.20    3 weeks ago

I really don't think you have a clue about TiG and his debating tactics. I've always considered him to be honest and tries to get at the truth. Some of you don't like it because he hands your asses to you in a silver box.

You really don't know how silly you look when you declare he picks fights and uses dishonest tactics

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.2.26  Sparty On  replied to  Gordy327 @1.2.19    3 weeks ago

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Other than that, i disagree with everything you said here ... again.

 
 
 
Gordy327
1.2.27  Gordy327  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.26    3 weeks ago
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Sparty On
1.2.28  Sparty On  replied to  It Is ME @1.2.12    3 weeks ago
These "Frick and Frack" protection episodes are getting old !

That explain it as well as anything.  

One can't seem to exist here without the other .....

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.2.29  Sparty On  replied to  Gordy327 @1.2.27    3 weeks ago

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Still disagree with everything you've said here.  

You're batting 1000%

 
 
 
Gordy327
1.2.30  Gordy327  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.29    3 weeks ago
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It Is ME
1.2.31  It Is ME  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.28    3 weeks ago
One can't seem to exist here without the other .....

Freaky Twin Stuff.

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.2.32  Sparty On  replied to  Gordy327 @1.2.30    3 weeks ago

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And yes, i still disagree with everything you've said here

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.2.33  Sparty On  replied to  It Is ME @1.2.31    3 weeks ago

Get ready ... here comes the typical delayed "off topic" and "No Value" reporting barrage.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.2.34  KDMichigan  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.25    3 weeks ago
I really don't think you have a clue about TiG and his debating tactics.

 I couldn't give a [REMOVED]   what you think.

I've always considered him to be honest and tries to get at the truth.

Of course you do. Do you have any more shocking relevations?

Some of you don't like it because he hands your asses to you in a silver box.

Sorry but I don't whine about religion every day or debate it. You must have me mixed up with someone else in your fantasy world.

You really don't know how silly you look when you declare he picks fights and uses dishonest tactics

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KDMichigan
1.2.35  KDMichigan  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.21    3 weeks ago
Where do I claim a person cannot change their position?  Yes, I accept as truth a person's stated personal position.  If they later contradict this then I will reconsider. 
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.36  Trout Giggles  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.34    3 weeks ago
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Trout Giggles
1.2.37  Trout Giggles  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.35    3 weeks ago

I don't think you understood a word of what TiG said

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.2.38  Raven Wing  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.25    3 weeks ago
I've always considered him to be honest and tries to get at the truth. Some of you don't like it because he hands your asses to you in a silver box.

jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gif     jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif       jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

TiG does something most people here don't; He does his homework before he speaks. And before some will do that, they criticize TiG for making them look the fools they are.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.39  Trout Giggles  replied to  Raven Wing @1.2.38    3 weeks ago

#TeamTiG

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.2.40  Sparty On  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.35    3 weeks ago

Vaguely reminiscent of the last, now defunct forum site that shall not be named eh?   Same players, same game .....

Strokes the word, stroke, stroke, stroke

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.2.41  KDMichigan  replied to  Raven Wing @1.2.38    3 weeks ago
He does his homework before he speaks.

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KDMichigan
1.2.42  KDMichigan  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.37    3 weeks ago

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Trout Giggles
1.2.43  Trout Giggles  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.42    3 weeks ago
Removed for context

Back at ya, Bub. Tho your memes are lame and over used

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.44  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.40    3 weeks ago
Same players, same game .....

Yes it is...SpartyOn

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.45  TᵢG  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.35    3 weeks ago

Is this what you think is me stating that a person cannot change their position??

You do not see that what you quoted is me saying that if a person contradicts himself I will reconsider?  


The word 'reconsider' means to look at the situation given new facts.   Do you find it unusual or wrong that I would look at the current facts and then draw a suitable conclusion?:  

  • Amy:  I do not think wearing a face mask is really necessary.

(later)

  • Amy:  I think everyone should wear a face mask in public.
  • Bob:   I thought you were against wearing a face mask.
  • Amy:  I was until I learned that wearing a face mask protects others from you (more than the other way around).  

Would Bob be correct to reconsider Amy's position given this new information?  Or should he just call her a liar?

Now, if Amy had instead stated (in a Trump-ian fashion):

  • Amy:  I have always believed that everyone should wear a face mask in public.

Would Bob, when reconsidering, be justified in considering that a contradiction?

 
 
 
Ender
1.2.46  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.43    3 weeks ago

Waiting for the...must  get  in  last  word...

Haha

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.47  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @1.2.46    3 weeks ago

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Raven Wing
1.2.48  Raven Wing  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.21    3 weeks ago
Can you make a reply to me that does not include fabrications or make things personal?

C'mon TiG......what fun would that be. That is all he is here for, ya know. If not you, anyone else will do just fine. Except for me. As I don't respond to his BS and he hates that. jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.49  TᵢG  replied to  Raven Wing @1.2.48    3 weeks ago

Unfortunately there are too many who, in lieu (I presume) of a cogent, thoughtful rebuttal, resort to intellectual dishonesty and snark.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.2.50  KDMichigan  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.45    3 weeks ago

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Trout Giggles
1.2.51  Trout Giggles  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.50    3 weeks ago

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Raven Wing
1.2.52  Raven Wing  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.49    3 weeks ago
resort to intellectual dishonesty and snark.

That is because that is all they are here for, not to engage in any form of intellectual discussion. And before there can be any type of intellectual discussion, there must be some form of rational intelligence on their part, which explains why there is only dishonesty and snark on their part.

After all, the best way to save themselves from looking like a fool is to try and make YOU look like the fool. Under the circumstances, such efforts on their part are certain to be a failure.

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.2.53  Sparty On  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.50    3 weeks ago

Thats the game, then they go onto personal notes or to other forums and giggle about it like the motards they are.

Just ignore most of what they say.   It works great, plus they get to feel really cool about themselves when they "get away" with insulting you.   I figure i'm doing a solid for their families.   Less venom they have to dump on their loved ones don't you know.

 
 
 
Gordy327
1.2.54  Gordy327  replied to  Raven Wing @1.2.52    3 weeks ago

You Nailed it.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.2.55  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.51    3 weeks ago

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KDMichigan
1.2.56  KDMichigan  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.51    3 weeks ago
I have 2 because I asked for them

I'm sure the irony of your comment eludes you.

 
 
 
CB
1.2.57  CB   replied to  gooseisgone @1.2.4    3 weeks ago

Because categories matter. Because degrees matter. Because there is a great amount of difference between two things when one is a unforced error (Trump Team rallies) and the other a forced error (police killing black males in an unjustified manner outside of the bounds of a proper understanding of policing).

But you should know that. Except you choose to ignore it, maybe because a talking point is so much easier to 'launch as a defense' then to care about the life of somebody outside your group!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.58  Trout Giggles  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.56    3 weeks ago

There's no irony. I know what I did was wrong. Not that I feel remorse for it, it was worth it.

But I knew that it was against the CoC. So I asked for a moderator to take care of it

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.59  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.55    3 weeks ago

What the hell does that mean? I don't put up with bullshit from witless cowards? If that's what you mean, then you're right.

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.60  TᵢG  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.50    3 weeks ago
You have proven that your opinion on peoples positions is based on your leftwing gang factor in my opinion.

Your opinion is misguided.

No amount of articulate explanation is going to change my opinion.

Clearly.

How many time have you jumped in on someone trying to explain what one of your fellows stupid comments actually meant?

Do you know why I do this?   Because I see people engaging in dishonest and/or snarky tactics.   And I will continue to do this as long as these tactics ensue.  

I know how this usually ends, the trolls jumping in and then I'm getting tickets. I am already being baited by your idolizers so I think I'll just step away.

Yes, stepping away is a good idea.

How long you think it would take for me to get a ticket If I took the trolls bait? 5 minutes?

A great way to avoid a ticket is to make thoughtful, honest comments that do not make things personal.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.2.61  Raven Wing  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.58    3 weeks ago
But I knew that it was against the CoC. So I asked for a moderator to take care of it

Class. It does a body good. jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.2.62  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Raven Wing @1.2.61    3 weeks ago

"Class" wouldn't have posted those things in the first place. You know. Like TiG doesn't.......sort of.

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.63  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.62    3 weeks ago

What exactly are you attempting to claim?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.2.64  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.63    3 weeks ago

That some of your posts, while maybe veiled a bit with "words of wisdom", do come across as a dig sometimes. Wanna be a martyr too and admit it? 

Look, I like your point of view sometimes but being fitted for a pedestal is just a bit much sometimes.

JMHO

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.2.65  KDMichigan  replied to  Raven Wing @1.2.61    3 weeks ago
Class. It does a body good.

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CB
1.2.66  CB   replied to  gooseisgone @1.2.4    3 weeks ago

Because. . . the constitution provides for a "peaceful protest" by citizens of official state wrongs in the immediacy, but the president is SUPPOSED and EXPECTED to protect the citizens he has sworn to serve and a blatant set of political "rallies" or "self-indulgent" energized fundraising events does not qualify as protest. No matter the mangling of the word, "protest."

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.67  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.64    3 weeks ago

Funny thing Jim, my comments are typically responsive to the facts in question.   If my interlocutor operated likewise we would have no problems.   It is when people resort to intellectually dishonest tactics, snark, making things personal, etc. that things get ugly.   And the ugliness is almost always one-sided.   Just like here, you decided to jump in and make this personal yet you do not see me doing that with you or anyone else.

Another funny thing, because I do not engage in these practices some resort to just making unfounded allegations implying they can read my mind and see ill intent even if it is not expressed in words.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.2.68  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.67    3 weeks ago
you decided to jump in and make this personal

Consider it a PSA if you will. And it was an observation on my part and not meant to be "snarky". As for your "implying they can read my mind and see ill intent even if it is not expressed in words" and where it goes, some of your fellow travelers do the same (as do mine) and I don't see any rebuke of the behavior elsewhere.

 
 
 
Sunshine
1.2.69  Sunshine  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.68    3 weeks ago
And it was an observation on my part and not meant to be "snarky".

I do believe it was another person who first "jumped in" and made it snarky and personal but that seems to be ignored.  Go figure.  jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.70  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.63    3 weeks ago

That I have no class

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.71  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.68    3 weeks ago
some of your fellow travelers do the same (as do mine) and I don't see any rebuke of the behavior elsewhere

I am responding to you.   If a 'fellow traveler' pulled that trick with me I would respond similarly.

Here again, you resort to trying to impugn my character instead of addressing the observation that I provided to you.

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.72  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.70    3 weeks ago

Hard to say given the comment was vague.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.2.73  Raven Wing  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.71    3 weeks ago
Here again, you resort to trying to impugn my character

That's all they have...so that is the only way they know how to answer.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.2.74  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.71    3 weeks ago
If a 'fellow traveler' pulled that trick with me I would respond similarly.

That's the point. They don't and won't...........no matter what you may say. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.75  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sunshine @1.2.69    3 weeks ago

Gee, Sunshine...if you've got something to say have the ovaries to say it

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.76  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.72    3 weeks ago

Not really. I just connected the dots

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.77  TᵢG  replied to  Sunshine @1.2.69    3 weeks ago

I just went to the top of the thread and started reading until I saw the first comment that went negative and personal.  

Which comment are you referring to?

 
 
 
Krishna
2  seeder  Krishna    3 weeks ago

"This is a free country and I can do what I want. If I want to wear a mask, I wear a mask. If I don’t, I don't. If I get sick, I get sick. That's my choice," Tom continued, adding that he thought the number of coronavirus deaths was being "padded."

Sheri agreed: "Some of these numbers aren't real."

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
2.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Krishna @2    3 weeks ago

She’s right they had to revise the numbers here because they were so inaccurate. The number of deaths in Colorado were grossly exaggerated. 
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/05/15/colorado-covid-coronavirus-counting-deaths-fatalities/

 
 
 
Ozzwald
2.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2.1    3 weeks ago
She’s right they had to revise the numbers here because they were so inaccurate. The number of deaths in Colorado were grossly exaggerated. 

Maybe, maybe not.

Example:

You're dying of cancer.  You have 2 months to live.  You catch COVID and die in 6 weeks instead.  Did the disease tax your body enough to effect your remaining lifespan?

Maybe, maybe not.

 
 
 
Dulay
2.1.2  Dulay  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

So if you are a hemophiliac and get hit by a car and bleed out on the way to the hospital, is your cause of death hemophilia or being hit by a car? 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
2.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Dulay @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

So if you are a hemophiliac and get hit by a car and bleed out on the way to the hospital, is your cause of death hemophilia or being hit by a car? 

Probably a better example than mine.

 
 
 
Krishna
2.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @2    3 weeks ago
Sheri agreed: "Some of these numbers aren't real.

As some folks have surmised, "Sheri" is one of the world's leading experts on the subject!So if "Sheri" says it-- it must be true!!!)

 
 
 
Gordy327
2.3  Gordy327  replied to  Krishna @2    3 weeks ago

If he wants to get sick (or doesn't care if he does), that is his choice. The problem is, if he gets sick, he can potentially get people around him sick. That's just selfish, iresponsible, and just plain stupid recklessness.

 
 
 
Krishna
2.3.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Gordy327 @2.3    3 weeks ago
The problem is, if he gets sick, he can potentially get people around him sick

true.

And in fact, it seems to have even gone beyond potentially (article is from June 20th):

6 Trump Staffers Test Positive For COVID-19 Ahead Of Tulsa Rally

Six campaign staffers working on the advance team for President Trump's rally in Tulsa, Okla., have tested positive for COVID-19, the campaign said Saturday. Trump is still attending the rally.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.3.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gordy327 @2.3    3 weeks ago

Some people don't care about others that's why they won't wear a mask.

 
 
 
Gordy327
2.3.3  Gordy327  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3.2    3 weeks ago
Some people don't care about others that's why they won't wear a mask.

That about sums it up.

 
 
 
cjcold
2.4  cjcold  replied to  Krishna @2    3 weeks ago

Anything I would say to Tom or Sheri would be a CoC violation.

 
 
 
JBB
3  JBB    3 weeks ago

Half of all Oklahomans are of below average intelligence...

 
 
 
charger 383
3.1  charger 383  replied to  JBB @3    3 weeks ago

half of all people are below average intelligence, that's how averages work

 
 
 
JBB
3.1.1  JBB  replied to  charger 383 @3.1    3 weeks ago

That was my point. [deleted]

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
That was my point.


Lol .... yeah, that’s what you meant ....

 
 
 
Gordy327
3.1.3  Gordy327  replied to  charger 383 @3.1    3 weeks ago

Only half? I'd wager it's probably more.

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.4  seeder  Krishna  replied to  charger 383 @3.1    2 weeks ago

half of all people are below average intelligence, that's how averages work

That reminds me of a saying we used to have when I was still in school:

If all the girl's in Women's College were laid end to end around the world...it wouldn't be the first time.

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
3.2  1776 Traditional American  replied to  JBB @3    3 weeks ago

Half of all New Yorkers are of below average intelligence...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  1776 Traditional American @3.2    3 weeks ago

The other half are just plain stupid.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.2.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2.1    3 weeks ago

And yet our covid is way down, and we are the hub of business... with an actual GDP of 1.8 trillion. Not bad for a below-average state/ sarc. 

 
 
 
cjcold
3.2.3  cjcold  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.2.2    3 weeks ago

Haven't heard of a single case out here in the sticks (but I don't get out much). 

 
 
 
Krishna
3.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  JBB @3    3 weeks ago
Half of all Oklahomans are of below average intelligence...

Actually it would be more accurate to say:

Half of all Oklahomans are of below average U.S. intelligence...

Or not.

(Whether or not half of Oklahomans are of below the average intelligence of all Americans I have no idea...just sayin' :-)

 
 
 
Ronin2
4  Ronin2    3 weeks ago

Who cares? Come back to us when the protesters, rioters, looters, and arsonists are forced to comply with masks and social distancing.

Until then this is just another completely worthless anti Trump/anti conservative/anti logic piece of political crap. 

Hint. The protesters, rioters, looters, and arsonists are not immune to Covid-19. They can and are catching, transmitting, and spreading it beyond their protest groups. Trying to just blame states reopening their economies with restrictions, conservative protesters, or people attending a Trump rally; when multiple reoccurring mass leftist protests are going on across the US that people are crossing state borders to attend is asinine.

You can add the idiots attending the Trump rally, to those morons on the left.

Unless everyone if forced to hold the same standards of wearing masks and social distancing- the new spikes in Covid-19 cases will continue to grow. Singling out single groups is merely politics.

How about you let us know how many attending the Trump rally start riots, loot, and burn down business around it? That would be a far better comparison if you want apples and oranges. 

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
4.1  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Ronin2 @4    3 weeks ago

  That’s been the hypocrisy from the left from the beginning.  Reopen the economy bad, you’re going to kill grandma to save the stock market. BLM protests, riots, looting good the issue transcends the disease.  Now that there are going to be Trump rallies along with peaceful protests, the protests are ok, the trump rallies are super disease spreaders.  We call bs on all that.  Where were the questions on precautions and social distancing in New York, Chicago, Washington DC recently?  

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  1776 Traditional American @4.1    3 weeks ago
 Reopen the economy bad, you’re going to kill grandma to save the stock market.

Correct! jrSmiley_7_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  1776 Traditional American @4.1    3 weeks ago

512

 
 
 
Krishna
4.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @4    3 weeks ago
Unless everyone if forced to hold the same standards of wearing masks and social distancing- the new spikes in Covid-19 cases will continue to grow.

Are you sure?

Dear Leader apparently doesn't think so-- after all the example he is personally setting is-- no need to wear a mask!

And he's said that the reason some numbers are going up is not because of that, but rather because of increased testing.

So obviously the real way to stop the increase in new cases is-- to stop testing!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Krishna @4.2    3 weeks ago
Dear Leader apparently doesn't think so-- after all the example he is personally setting is-- no need to wear a mask!

I totally agree with that, too.

 
 
 
CB
4.2.2  CB   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.1    3 weeks ago

The protesters are doing the best they can in a bad, dangerous situation. Have you ever seen so many masks on people in America-everywhere you look? In an odd way it makes me proud to know that in the 'thick' of it, (stubborn) men and women, can of their own volition come to an accord.

Of course, there are the 'thick-headed' contrarians who love nothing more than to throw 'sticks' into the moving wheels, until they ruin life for the rest of us. I remember once hearing it stated that the reason people in the southern regions developed a 'twang' in their speech is a because they wanted to be different. I don't know if that is true of any dialect, but it strikes me that no matter what point-good, bad, indifferent one can make there is almost always a contrarian GROUP-THINK to oppose it.

NOTE: This comment is actually to your @4.3! (Chuckles.)

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ronin2 @4    3 weeks ago
Unless everyone if forced to hold the same standards of wearing masks and social distancing- the new spikes in Covid-19 cases will continue to grow. Singling out single groups is merely politics.

I totally agree.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.4  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @4    3 weeks ago
Who cares?

Obviously Dear Leader and his sycophantic groupies don't.

They don't seem to care at all (about anyone else but themselves).

 
 
 
Krishna
4.5  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @4    2 weeks ago
Until then this is just another completely worthless anti Trump/anti conservative/anti logic piece of political crap

Ah, the irony! 

"This is just another completely worthless . . . anti-logic piece of crap"  .

Another completely worthless piece of crap...that's about another completely worthless anti-logic piece of crap (AKA Donald Trumplestiltskin!).

Do you not actually see the irony in your comment?

It must be some sort of figure of speech or somethin'. A Metaphor? An Isotope?A Battement Développé? A Simile or Alliteration perhaps? Or even..perhaps (Oh-- the horror!)...an actual Onomatopoeia? 

(Not only don't i have even the slightest idea what that big "O" word means...but I can't even spell the durn thing!) 

But getting back on topic".  IMO the term "anti-logic piece of crap" is one of the best descriptions of our Deranged Leader (AKA Trump) that I've heard in a while.

Most excellent description indeed! 

(That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it!).

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5  Buzz of the Orient    3 weeks ago

"If I get sick, I get sick, and if I kill my grandparents, I kill my grandparents.  That's my choice."

 
 
 
Greg Jones
5.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    3 weeks ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Krishna
5.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    3 weeks ago
"If I get sick, I get sick, and if I kill my grandparents, I kill my grandparents.  That's my choice."

Yup.

Well, maybe only partly. It would mainly be your choice-- but people have to take responsibility for their own action-- even the hordes of mindless Trump groupies!

So therefore-- if you choose to kill your grandparents-- its also partly their fault!

 
 
 
Krishna
5.2.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @5.2    3 weeks ago
Well, maybe only partly. It would mainly be your choice-- but people have to take responsibility for their own action-- even the hordes of mindless Trump groupies! So therefore-- if you choose to kill your grandparents-- its also partly their fault!

Whoops...I "inadvwertantly" left off the /sarcasm tag.

My bad!

 
 
 
Suz
5.2.2  Suz  replied to  Krishna @5.2.1    3 weeks ago

Have you also addressed the protesters throughout the country these past weeks?  Only asking.

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.2.3  MrFrost  replied to  Suz @5.2.2    3 weeks ago

Protesting is a constitutionally protected right. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.2.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MrFrost @5.2.3    3 weeks ago

Yes it is and nobody is disputing that.  But people can protest responsibly by at least wearing masks.

 
 
 
Suz
5.2.5  Suz  replied to  MrFrost @5.2.3    3 weeks ago

I am not contesting their right to protest.  

 
 
 
Krishna
5.2.6  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Suz @5.2.2    3 weeks ago
Have you also addressed the protesters throughout the country these past weeks?

No I haven't had the chance to address protesters "throughout the country".

(As a matter of fact, I haven't even spoken to even a single one of them)

Why do you ask?

 
 
 
Krishna
5.2.7  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.2.4    3 weeks ago
Yes it is and nobody is disputing that.

I'm not so sure: 

TRUMP RALLY: TULSA WOMAN PROTESTING TRUMP ARRESTED

11:42 AM PT   -- Tulsa PD says the woman in the "I Can't Breathe" shirt -- Sheila Buck -- was arrested for obstruction after she refused to the leave premises on her own accord ... and after campaign staffers told her to scram.

The department writes, "This morning at 11:30 am Tulsa Police were requested by Trump Campaign Staff to remove an individual from the secure area of the rally.

They add, "Tulsa Police spoke to the arrestee, Ms. Buck, for several minutes trying to convince her to leave on her own accord. After several minutes requesting her to leave she continued to refuse to cooperate and was escorted out of the area and transported to booking for obstruction."

Tulsa PD finishes by saying, "Fo r clarification, the arrestee had passed through the metal detector area to the most secure area of the event accessible only to ticket holders. Whether she had a ticket or not for the event is not a contributing factor for the Tulsa Police in making the arrest. Officers at the location, particularly in the “Sterile” area, will remove individuals only at the direction of Campaign Staff."

In other words, it looks like Tulsa PD is working with the campaign staff to make sure things go exactly how the President wants them to ... AKA no dissenters, and no protests.

 
 
 
CB
5.2.8  CB   replied to  Krishna @5.2.7    3 weeks ago

Hi Krishna! In a way I can see what happened there as a form of protest in itself. That is, one shows up to "act-up" and get arrested. There may have been 'notification' on what would be acceptable venue attire subject to venue 'staff' judgement and what would be turned away as part of the agreement to accept a ticket.

This person may have gotten coverage and 'return' expected. Value added.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.2.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Suz @5.2.5    3 weeks ago

Personally, I think that while something is a right, means that it's the right thing to do. I am very worried about the fallout from the protests and covid. 

That being said, I also think that the President should be an example and not make a light of a pandemic by not wearing a mask all the time. 

 
 
 
bugsy
5.2.10  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @5.2.3    3 weeks ago
Protesting is a constitutionally protected right

So is freedom of assembly. [Deleted]

 
 
 
bugsy
5.2.11  bugsy  replied to  bugsy @5.2.10    3 weeks ago

OK...MOST liberals hate the First Amendment more than they hate Donald Trump.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
5.2.12  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.2.9    3 weeks ago

Problem is that a good many people confuse what is privilege with what is a right and vice versa.

 
 
 
Krishna
5.2.13  seeder  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @5.2.11    3 weeks ago
MOST liberals hate the First Amendment more than they hate Donald Trump.

Link?

 
 
 
Krishna
5.2.14  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Suz @5.2.2    3 weeks ago
Have you also addressed the protesters throughout the country these past weeks? 

Are you aware of the fact that your comment is totally off-topic?

When I first saw it I was going to mark it as such. But then I thought that occasionally it might be better to leave these sorts of off-topic comments up...

I don't know whether this a deliberate attempt on your part to derail the conversation, or whether you actually weren't aware what the topic is. So I'll explain:

Outside Trump's Tulsa Rally Site, Few Face Masks And No Social Distancing

What we are discussing is the rally, Trump, his supporters, protestors and the behaviour of people who see no need to take sensible measure to avoid passing the virus on to others. What we are not discussing are other NT users! 

 
 
 
bugsy
5.2.15  bugsy  replied to  Krishna @5.2.13    3 weeks ago

Don't need a link. Common knowledge.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
5.2.16  Raven Wing  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.2.9    3 weeks ago
That being said, I also think that the President should be an example and not make a light of a pandemic by not wearing a mask all the time. 

But....but....wearing a mask would cover up most of his beautiful face. Nor could people see the cute way his lips move when he talks. What could be more important than those?   /s

And after all....he's Trump, so he won't get the virus. It wouldn't dare! jrSmiley_85_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.2.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @5.2.15    3 weeks ago

Try again there, Bugsy. I full heartedly believe in the First Amendment. And I support the Second so I can protect my First!

I didn't serve 10 years in the military to "hate" the First Amendment!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.2.18  Trout Giggles  replied to  Suz @5.2.2    3 weeks ago

I saw a lot of those protestors wearing masks. However, as Perrie pointed out, they weren't social distancing and that can make a difference

 
 
 
Ender
5.2.19  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.18    3 weeks ago

My Cousin's kid, might as well be my Nephew as she is like a sister, has stayed home as much as possible. After being cooped up for several months he decided to out out for a while to the local race track.

He wore a mask, tried to keep some distance and took hand sanitizer.

Someone actually walked up to him ask asked, WHY are you wearing a mask...

Acting like it was a weird thing to do and 'not cool'.

His friend actually spoke up and said...because he is not stupid...

 
 
 
KDMichigan
5.2.20  KDMichigan  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.18    3 weeks ago
they weren't social distancing and that can make a difference

Is that the flavor for today that they were not social distancing? At rally's not social distancing it is the end of the world, Protesting and looting because a criminal resisted arrest and not social distancing ..meh. Most of us are smart enough to see thru the lefts faux rage. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.2.21  Sparty On  replied to  KDMichigan @5.2.20    3 weeks ago
Most of us are smart enough to see thru the lefts faux rage. 

Frankly it's amazing they think we are dumb enough not to notice it.

That said, it is fun being underestimated.   I love the look on their faces when they finally figure out they screwed up.

It's like the evening of November 8th 2016 all over again ......  good times!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.2.22  Trout Giggles  replied to  KDMichigan @5.2.20    3 weeks ago

Wow...just wow. I remember you being one of the ones who won't wear a face mask and saying people should just stay home if they're vulnerable

[Deleted....and] that's worth the price of a COC ticket!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.2.23  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.21    3 weeks ago

How are you going to know what looks are on our faces? [Deleted]

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.2.24  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.22    3 weeks ago

People act like it is some sort of imposition on them to wear a small fabric face mask.  It is bizarre, but its not about the mask, it's about supporting Trump. If Trump told them to wear a mask they would be at the store already buying them in bulk. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
5.2.25  KDMichigan  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.22    3 weeks ago
and that's worth the price of a COC ticket!

Being a NT pet and seeing SP is moderating I really doubt that is going to happen.

It will be left to stand so you can get your required likes from all your fellow 'intelligent' posters. 

Oh BTW thanks for the laughs, I just love when posters have to tell you how intelligent they are, fucking Hillaryious

 
 
 
KDMichigan
5.2.26  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.24    3 weeks ago
but its not about the mask, it's about supporting Trump

I know because gosh everyone who doesn't wear a mask must be a Trump supporter...

256

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.2.27  Trout Giggles  replied to  KDMichigan @5.2.25    3 weeks ago

I'll pit my brain against yours any day. I've been in battles of wits with far more worthier candidates than you.

As for my COC violation...I'm about to go tell on myself. I'll bet you never do that.

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.2.28  Sparty On  replied to  KDMichigan @5.2.26    3 weeks ago

Damn it stop putting that one up.  

Every time i see it i want to give her a big hug and a cookie.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
5.2.29  KDMichigan  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.27    3 weeks ago
(deleted)
 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.2.30  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.28    3 weeks ago
Every time i see it i want to give her a big hug and a cookie.

You may change your mind on the cookie..................but not the hug...........

256

jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.2.31  Trout Giggles  replied to  KDMichigan @5.2.29    3 weeks ago

God yer funny! I know you don't give a shit what I think but I so very much care what you think! Why! I would just die not reading your witty remarks every single day!

[deleted]

 
 
 
KDMichigan
5.2.32  KDMichigan  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.31    3 weeks ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.2.33  Trout Giggles  replied to  KDMichigan @5.2.25    3 weeks ago
removed for context

Want to admit you were wrong?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.2.34  Trout Giggles  replied to  KDMichigan @5.2.32    3 weeks ago

You just said I amused you. So which is it? Do I amuse you or not?

 
 
 
Raven Wing
5.2.35  Raven Wing  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.33    3 weeks ago
Being a NT pet

HEy HeY Hey!!! Giggles....I wanna be one too! How can I become an NT pet too?  ?? jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.2.36  Trout Giggles  replied to  Raven Wing @5.2.35    3 weeks ago

First there's an initiation fee. That gets you the super secret decoder ring and the NT pet's manual.

Then there's the cleansing ritual. Top Secret. We don't tell you about it until you've paid your non-refundable fee.

Then's there the tattoo. It's not super painful but I suggest if you have any mind numbing medication available you might want to take it before you get passed under the laser.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
5.2.37  Raven Wing  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.36    3 weeks ago
Then's there the tattoo.

uhhh...... jrSmiley_44_smiley_image.gif ..........jrSmiley_51_smiley_image.gif ........... jrSmiley_29_smiley_image.gif ..........I'll pass....... my not likes needles that sticks me.  jrSmiley_47_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
CB
5.2.38  CB   replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.18    3 weeks ago

Protesting, . . .is hard. Specifically, when you encounter push back from authorities. As the point being delivered is all! The point is the thing!

 
 
 
CB
5.2.39  CB   replied to  Ender @5.2.19    3 weeks ago

I tell them this:

"I wear a mask everywhere I go, because I don't know where 'y'all' are coming from. Asymptomatic people, some who recently acquired the virus, don't even know they are spreading it. And some other people don't listen to enough to know their butts are not holes in the ground!"

I really do say this to people. I ain't playing around! If I get the virus, it won't be because I did not do my best to ward against it!

 
 
 
CB
5.2.40  CB   replied to  KDMichigan @5.2.20    3 weeks ago

Oh brother. That old canard is still out there roaming on the 'plains'?

 
 
 
CB
5.2.41  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.24    3 weeks ago

Weird. It tis too. Because there is no daylight between them (I think they all share one brain), the instance Trump duns a mask>>>Trump conservatives will hoard them all from the rest of us! WATCH OUT!

 
 
 
CB
5.2.42  CB   replied to  KDMichigan @5.2.29    3 weeks ago

Ouch! Put your nerves away. This is not that kind of an establishment!

 
 
 
Kathleen
5.2.43  Kathleen  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.28    3 weeks ago

She is so cute.  Lol

 
 
 
gooseisgone
5.2.44  gooseisgone  replied to  CB @5.2.8    2 weeks ago

You seem to have this fantasy that since a protestor has a right to protest nothing can be said about the possible spread of Covid-19, but a rally is somehow the Presidents fault if the attendees don't recognize CDC standards for Covid-19.  We are a free country, we understand risks, its either good for both groups or bad for both. 

 
 
 
CB
5.2.45  CB   replied to  gooseisgone @5.2.44    2 weeks ago

And you and other Trump supporters display a misguided sense that outdoor peaceful protests are synonymous with indoor political rallies. Here is a(nother) clue: One has a proper sense of urgency.  One is essential to proper governing. The other is non-essential to governing overall. Which?

You likely won't answer that directly!

 If nothing else will suffice for you, then allow degrees to inform us. According to its logic, one thing can be closer akin to another thing, protests being better aligned with our constitution, than any political rally. Other examples of degrees. Temperature turning ice to water. Water starting to boil. Affection becoming love. A need for a shave  turning into a man with a beard.

Degrees matter.

 
 
 
gooseisgone
5.2.46  gooseisgone  replied to  CB @5.2.45    2 weeks ago
Trump supporters display a misguided sense that outdoor peaceful protests

You are kidding......right  I am not going to waste my time to linking to all of the violence that has taken place in the last 30 Days. So spare me the "peaceful protest".  If you actually had JUST peaceful protest, you would have a point.

One has a proper sense of urgency. One is essential to proper governing. 

You are correct and its the rally to elect the next President of the United States and yes it is essential to proper governing, because if Joe Biden becomes President, I question if there will be anything to govern after he takes office based on the behavior of BLM, Antifa and liberals in general. 

According to its logic, one thing can be closer akin to another thing, protests being better aligned with our constitution, than any political rally

I don't believe there is any doubt that logically electing the next President of the United States is more aligned with the Constitution than tearing down a statue that's been their for decades, but some people have different priorities.  Maybe you should take a poll. 

You see Democrats are fine with Joe hiding in his basement, because he can't seem to string two thoughts together.  The media and the democrats keep the drum beat of "orange man bad". The violent protesters are hoping something happens so they can point to it and scream "RACISM" and it may work.  I will do everything I can to help Trump win. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
5.2.47  1stwarrior  replied to  CB @5.2.45    2 weeks ago

384

 
 
 
CB
5.2.48  CB   replied to  1stwarrior @5.2.47    2 weeks ago

You might know what agent provocateurs are. Yeah you might have a meme about them too! Well, do you?

 
 
 
CB
5.2.49  CB   replied to  gooseisgone @5.2.46    2 weeks ago
You are correct and its the rally to elect the next President of the United States and yes it is essential to proper governing, because if Joe Biden becomes President, I question if there will be anything to govern after he takes office based on the behavior of BLM, Antifa and liberals in general. 

I am not going to get into back and forths on whataboutisms. Your one-sided bias is on full display, nevertheless. You would do well to fake neutrality, because right now your opinion is so lob-sided I can't twist myself to make a proper comment.

You have not established significantly that peaceful protestors are pulling down statutes (albeit, a interesting twist of fate for the confederacy). In any case, right or wrong, peaceful protest is in the Constitution—presidential rallies are not enshrined there.

Trump is a dangerous man. Since you when there, let me be perfectly clear "gooseisgone," your most important reason for supporting "the orange man," to play momentarily with your wording, is because in him you see what you want out of conservatism. Trump needs people to think and hold him as important and necessary. Consequently, he glommed onto this section of conservatism as his vehicle to the top (liberal New Yorkers disdained him as a loser), but conservatism needed a real loser to do a 'hit-job' on liberals!  With a little more 'rouge' and some extra bronze studio 'pancake,' Trump morphed into the mythical last 'white hope' for certain conservatives to finally call "champion"!

Unlike Bush papa and son, unlike Reagan, Trump would mercilessly turn, swerve, and kick liberals and secularists with all their hopes in their political teeth! He would rend liberal, progressive, and secularists policies limb from limb. He would set the three "parties" back to beating the bushes desperately looking for some way out of their return to being 'second' behind conservatives who come first!

Trump is your monster and you are his mistresses. And no one can talk to the mistresses without the monster hearing every word.

As to racism. It is a stupid thing for any person to imitate. No true intellectual can be a racists. Racism is ignorance personified. Only a fool could take pride in being a racist, or worse, teaching others to become the same.

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.2.50  Sparty On  replied to  1stwarrior @5.2.47    2 weeks ago

Lol ... if this were White Supremacists, the left and its propaganda arm, the mass media, would be melting down right now calling for their heads.

Just one more example of how biased they really are.

 
 
 
CB
5.2.51  CB   replied to  Sparty On @5.2.50    2 weeks ago

You keep 'pouting' over your imperfect comparisons. Nobody wants people to riot, loot, or even be overly indulgent (that is, shit or piss on the sidewalks). That can not give you a pretext to make headway and lump different problems, dilemmas, complex people, and their specific issues under one mast!

 
 
 
gooseisgone
5.2.52  gooseisgone  replied to  CB @5.2.49    2 weeks ago
Your one-sided bias is on full display, nevertheless.

Who are you trying to kid, what do you think you are some how down the middle.  Hell yes I am biased and not ashamed to say it.  

You have not established significantly that peaceful protestors are pulling down statutes

I never said peaceful protestors are pulling down statutes, but the statutes are being vandalized and torn down by protestors, you'll have to figure out what to call them.

play momentarily with your wording, is because in him you see what you want out of conservatism

You need to know I hate Trump's personality just like many CEO's he's an ass but he gets shit done. 

but conservatism needed a real loser to do a 'hit-job' on liberals! 

"Loser" you ran Hillary, America needed someone to call out the liberals, Trump was the one to win the job. Now who do you have Joe, now there's a real dynamo, he excites people.  This race isn't about Biden vs Trump, its about can the democrats get people to hate Trump enough to vote for Joe. Joe a guy who can barely speak without losing track of what he's saying.  

No true intellectual can be a racists.

The left has bastardized the term Racist so badly that most people just role there eyes when hear it. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.2.53  Dulay  replied to  gooseisgone @5.2.52    2 weeks ago
The left has bastardized the term Racist so badly that most people just role there eyes when hear it. 

Those who role THEIR eyes when they hear the word racist haven't been targeted by one. 

 
 
 
CB
5.2.54  CB   replied to  gooseisgone @5.2.52    2 weeks ago
I never said peaceful protestors are pulling down statutes, but the statutes are being vandalized and torn down by protestors, you'll have to figure out what to call them.

Well, we shan't call them: peaceful protestors!  As to the statutes being pulled down well, that could be any combination of characters. That is happening for a wholly distinct set of reasons and pent-up emotions apart from police killing black males!

Nevertheless, there could be shadowy characters from history (afoot)? Agent provocateurs?

 
 
 
CB
5.2.55  CB   replied to  gooseisgone @5.2.52    2 weeks ago
You need to know I hate Trump's personality just like many CEO's he's an ass but he gets shit done. 

Okay, . . .so you like Trump's "shit he gets done"? Please be clear.

 
 
 
CB
5.2.56  CB   replied to  gooseisgone @5.2.52    2 weeks ago
"Loser" you ran Hillary, America needed someone to call out the liberals, Trump was the one to win the job. Now who do you have Joe, now there's a real dynamo, he excites people.  This race isn't about Biden vs Trump, its about can the democrats get people to hate Trump enough to vote for Joe. Joe a guy who can barely speak without losing track of what he's saying.  

Yawn. I just wanted to see the quote stand alone. Moving on!

 
 
 
CB
5.2.57  CB   replied to  gooseisgone @5.2.52    2 weeks ago

Trump is a racist. He tried to legally murder the Central Park Five. And when Trump the Loser found out that they were free and clear after serving time in jail, the loser would not apologize, but continues to wish them dead. Therefore, Trump is not an intellectual.

Anybody so small as to not 'celebrate' the finding out of a real criminal rapist and the release from imprisonment for five minority boys turned men, simply because of the color of their skin (he gave no other rationale) is a 'bigly' horse's ass.

Anybody who hates women, homosexuals, skin color, and never take account of the people separately in those skins is a dumb fool. Tell them, I said so!

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.2.58  Sparty On  replied to  CB @5.2.51    2 weeks ago

Lol .... pouting is what liberals tend to do when they can’t handle the truth.     I just smile at their nonsensical rationalizations.

I’m smiling right now .....

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.2.59  Texan1211  replied to  CB @5.2.57    2 weeks ago
Trump is a racist. He tried to legally murder the Central Park Five. And when Trump the Loser found out that they were free and clear after serving time in jail, the loser would not apologize, but continues to wish them dead. Therefore, Trump is not an intellectual.

tell the truth here.

Does it hurt when you pull that crap out of your ass?

 
 
 
CB
5.2.60  CB   replied to  Sparty On @5.2.58    2 weeks ago

Yes. Continue feeding me a line. . . . I'll make room for more! (Smile.)

 
 
 
CB
5.2.61  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.59    2 weeks ago

Toilet humor? Irrelevant. Trump is more evidenced as a racist than as a conservative. Trump is Trump and Trump supporters are Trump. There is nothing about your so-called 'arguments' that Trump can disapprove of.  Trump telling lies is you supporters doing your damnedest to explain the collective lies away!  Laughable 'twins,' indeed!

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.2.62  Texan1211  replied to  CB @5.2.61    2 weeks ago

What are you bleating on about now?

 
 
 
CB
5.2.63  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.62    2 weeks ago

jrSmiley_96_smiley_image.png Somebody dropped off cake! I'll split it with you Trump supporters. I'm a nice guy after all!

 
 
 
Krishna
5.2.64  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Ender @5.2.19    2 weeks ago
Someone actually walked up to him ask asked, WHY are you wearing a mask...

I wonder what TV station that person watches to get their news?

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.2.65  Texan1211  replied to  CB @5.2.63    2 weeks ago

Seems like perhaps social distancing is taking a heavy toll on you.

 
 
 
Krishna
5.2.66  seeder  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @5.2.10    2 weeks ago
Protesting is a constitutionally protected right
So is freedom of assembly.

That's quite an over-generalization.

And in many cases it would be false. (Anyway "protesting" is a really, really fuzzy and undefined term).

A while back I read many, many Supreme Court cases of freedoms guaranteed under the Constitution. 

Actually, I was mostly interested in the various nuances of their rulings on "Freedom of Speech". You might think the meaning is obvious-- but its a lot more complicated than that!

One of their main points: 

The right to freedom of speech is not absolute" 

There's a lot to unpack there. But one of the points the Supremes made (I believe this one is fairly widely known) is simply this:

The right to freedom of speech does not extend to the right to falsely yell "fire" in a crowded theatre".

(IIRC those are not the exact words-- its  paraphrasing what the late great Oliver Wendell Holmes said in Schenck v United States. And there are more related cases....)

 
 
 
CB
5.2.67  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.65    2 weeks ago

You made a funny! Extra cake for you! HA!

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.2.68  Sparty On  replied to  CB @5.2.60    2 weeks ago

Good job!   There’s some serious projection there ..... the line feeding part not the making more room part 😉

 
 
 
CB
5.2.69  CB   replied to  Sparty On @5.2.68    2 weeks ago

Well Sparty On! Your deflection had its moment. Back to what really matters. Moving on.

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.2.70  Sparty On  replied to  CB @5.2.69    2 weeks ago

Not a deflection but interestingly your accusation of a deflection is a deflection.     Keep trying though.....

 
 
 
CB
5.2.71  CB   replied to  Sparty On @5.2.70    2 weeks ago

The old discussion about 'nothing' eh? We're done for now. I'll wait until u realize it. (My 'salvos' are spent.)

 
 
 
Ender
5.2.72  Ender  replied to  Krishna @5.2.64    2 weeks ago

What would be almost comical if it wasn't so serious...

The governor of my state had to address a record one day high number of cases.

He is an always trumper that had to have the economy opened back up.

Now he is on tv blaming people for not listening. He said that people were not wearing masks and following simple protocol. That if it keeps up he will have to shut down the whole state and the people will have no one to blame but themselves.

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.2.73  Sparty On  replied to  CB @5.2.71    2 weeks ago
The old discussion about 'nothing' eh?

Yeah, I wish you would stop bringing out those same old canards.

 
 
 
CB
5.2.74  CB   replied to  Sparty On @5.2.73    2 weeks ago

Well, I wish you could tell the truth about the lies of President Donald J. Trump. Alas! You never choose to come onto the field and off the sidelines to do so. Trump supporters love to bring up the canard about all politicians telling lies. It is clear Donald has a special dispensation from his supporters to be an extraordinary liar—on their behalf. Even when he lies to them too!

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.2.75  Sparty On  replied to  CB @5.2.74    2 weeks ago

Well, I wish you knew the truth when you saw it so I guess we are even.

 
 
 
Krishna
5.2.76  seeder  Krishna  replied to  KDMichigan @5.2.20    2 weeks ago

No.

 
 
 
gooseisgone
5.2.77  gooseisgone  replied to  Dulay @5.2.53    2 weeks ago
Those who role THEIR eyes when they hear the word racist haven't been targeted by one.

Here's your problem, there is racism but, you allow stupid shit to be called racism, focus on the problem.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.2.78  Dulay  replied to  gooseisgone @5.2.77    2 weeks ago
Here's your problem, there is racism but, you allow stupid shit to be called racism, focus on the problem.

Here's your problem, you think that I have one. 

 
 
 
gooseisgone
5.2.79  gooseisgone  replied to  Dulay @5.2.78    2 weeks ago

"Wolf"

 
 
 
Suz
5.3  Suz  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    3 weeks ago

You betcha!   If anyone of them shows up on my front porch, I've got Raid. 

 
 
 
Krishna
5.3.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Suz @5.3    3 weeks ago

If anyone of them shows up on my front porch, I've got Raid. 

What do you think is the likelihood of one of them showing up on your front porch? (Is it in some way an import place that would be a priority for protestors to protest at?).

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.3.2  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @5.3.1    3 weeks ago
What do you think is the likelihood of one of them showing up on your front porch?

Doesn't matter--she is prepared.

Better to be safe than sorry.

 
 
 
Krishna
5.3.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3.2    3 weeks ago
Doesn't matter--she is prepared.

I would characterize it as her being confused, not prepared.

For years when people were feeling like they might be "coming down with something" (usually a cold or possibly the yearly flu) they might say something like 

I'm not feeling well, I think I may have caught a bug

(Or words to that effect). Usually "bug" refers to an insect (or perhaps spiders which are actually not insects but rather Arachnids).

"Catching a bug" is a figure of speech-- because if they have a flu or cold they don't literally have insects inside them but rather viruses or bacteria. 

So if Suz is afraid protestors might come to her porch and give her the Covina-19 virus, she is confused if she thinks that's caused by bugs (insects-- which would indeed require Raid). Rather, if that was the case she would be getting a virus-- which is not a bug and for which there is currently no cure!

Because the Covina-19 is  an actual virus-- and Raid (or as Dear Leader suggested, swallowing actual Lysol) wouldn't work!

Raid kills bugs (insects). But a Virus is not an insect!!!

Capiche?

 
 
 
Krishna
5.3.4  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3.2    3 weeks ago
Doesn't matter--she is prepared.

Yes-- for bugs!

But while Raid is for bugs, the Virus isn't spread by insects-- rather its a virus-- which is something entirely different! (And I don't think spraying Raid on someone who has the virus will accomplish anything.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.3.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Krishna @5.3.4    3 weeks ago

I don't think she meant that the Raid would stop the virus. More like the "people" showing up at the door.

Let's just put it this way.  Let someone spray you in the face with Raid unexpectedly and get back to us on how you felt at the time. Thanks.

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.3.6  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @5.3.3    2 weeks ago

Oh, FFS.

Surely you have heard of sarcasm at some point in your life????

SMH

 
 
 
Krishna
5.3.7  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3.6    2 weeks ago

Surely you have heard of sarcasm at some point in your life????

Nope . . . never have!

 
 
 
Krishna
5.3.8  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @5.3.7    2 weeks ago

Surely you have heard of sarcasm at some point in your life????

Nope . . . never have!

Whoops-- there I go again! Yet once again I "inadvertently" forgot the sarcasm tag on that comment! ("Nope...Never Have" was meant as sarcasm).

 
 
 
Krishna
5.3.9  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @5.3.8    2 weeks ago
Surely you have heard of sarcasm at some point in your life????

Nope . . . never have!

Whoops-- there I go again! Yet once again I "inadvertently" forgot the sarcasm tag on that comment! ("Nope...Never Have" was meant as sarcasm).

See what I did there? jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

(What an inappropriate emoji...its not that funny!)

 
 
 
CB
5.3.10  CB   replied to  Krishna @5.3.9    2 weeks ago

"Pepper Belly!"   jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

You have to work with it. Until you get it just right!

 
 
 
Krishna
5.3.11  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.3.5    2 weeks ago
I don't think she meant that the Raid would stop the virus. More like the "people" showing up at the door.

If that be the case, I can't help but wondering:

A-What makes he think protestors would go out of the way to go to her house?

Do you think she actually has some sort of gov't position that would make her a likely target of protestors? Does she have a statue of of some Confederate traitor on her proch?

Or...does she actually think the protestors have such a bad sense of direction that they were going to protest at, say, the White House...and got lost, ending up instead on her front porch looking down the barrel of a can of RAID?

and

B-If the protestors were so determined (as many appear to be) what makes her  think a mere can of RAID means she's "prepared"?

Especially against a determined group of protestors (who would probably outnumber her in any event?) . . . The Second Amendment to the contrary not withstanding?

 
 
 
Krishna
5.3.12  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @5.3.11    2 weeks ago
have a statue of of some Confederate traitor on her proch?

That was a typo. I meant to say "Porch". 

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.3.13  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @5.3.11    2 weeks ago

You have obtuseness down pat.

Congrats?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
6  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

Covids back? Funny how it went away for that week when democratic politicians and public health officials were encouraging tens of thousands of progressives across the USA To ignore social distancing and gather in masses to protest and riot.

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
6.1  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    3 weeks ago

Isn’t it though.  We will never be locked up for a pandemic again. 

 
 
 
Krishna
6.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  1776 Traditional American @6.1    3 weeks ago
We will never be locked up for a pandemic again. 

As a wise old yogi once said:

Predictions are difficult...especially about the future!

--Yogi Berra

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
6.1.2  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Krishna @6.1.1    3 weeks ago

Or, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.  The first has happened, the 2nd never will. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
6.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  1776 Traditional American @6.1    3 weeks ago
We will never be locked up for a pandemic again. 

Good for you and whoever "we" represents. 

Remember to teach your kids that it only happened once in history

at the hands of a Republican President.

 
 
 
Gordy327
6.1.4  Gordy327  replied to  1776 Traditional American @6.1    3 weeks ago

How were you locked up? Did you get jailed?

 
 
 
Krishna
6.1.5  seeder  Krishna  replied to  1776 Traditional American @6.1.2    3 weeks ago
The first has happened, the 2nd never will. 

Predictions are difficult...especially predictions re:the course of an epidemic caused by a virus (yes its a virus, not a bug). Especially when its a "new" virus about which much is not understood.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  1776 Traditional American @6.1    3 weeks ago
We will never be locked up for a pandemic again. 

What will you be locked up for then? 

 
 
 
Krishna
6.1.7  seeder  Krishna  replied to  1776 Traditional American @6.1.2    2 weeks ago
fool me twice shame on me.

Its been a lot more than twice, country boy!

 
 
 
MUVA
6.2  MUVA  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    3 weeks ago

It took a break for the riots.

 
 
 
Krishna
6.2.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  MUVA @6.2    3 weeks ago
It took a break for the riots.

LOL! 

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Good one MUVA!

 
 
 
Krishna
6.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    3 weeks ago
Funny how it went away for that week

LOL!!!

 
 
 
Krishna
6.3.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @6.3    2 weeks ago
Funny how it went away for that week
LOL!!!

Some of youse guys are more fun than a barrel of Monkees! 

(The following is dedicated to all those who get their news only from the Faux News Channel):

 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    3 weeks ago

No one encouraged people to protest or riot, Sean. I think in the long run it will show to be a terrible mistake, since masks only help a little, but it's social distancing that really helps. I hate it that a pandemic has turned into a political game. There are no elections going on around the world, yet they are having outbreaks, too. It seems that only Americans are dumb enough to think this is a political disease. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
6.4.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.4    3 weeks ago

o one encouraged people to protest or riot, Sean

Are you kidding? 

To quote Bill De Blasio and Andrew Cuomo "we encourage people to protest peacefully and make their voices heard.” 

How many Democratic politicians like Illinois's governor or Nancy Pelosi attended protests?    But by all means, point out the democratic leaders who told protesters they were killing people by attending rallies?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.4.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.4.1    3 weeks ago

Oddly enough, I am going to agree with you, Sean. They should have asked people to consider that we are in the middle of a pandemic and find other ways to protest. That being said, given the 1st amendment, they had the right to protest. 

There will be a fallout from it though, I fear.

I stand by what I said: we are the only nation that is dumb enough makes a pandemic political. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
6.4.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.4.2    3 weeks ago
hey had the right to protest. 

I agree. Just like Trump has the right to hold rallies.

But the institutional support of media, public health officials, and democratic politicians for those protests, after their apocalyptic attacks on those who protested government shut downs days earlier, eroded faith in those institutions and made it much harder to justify mandated distancing. I will bet mask use dropped off nationally after the BLM protests.

e the only nation that is dumb enough makes a pandemic political. 

That I agree with totally. As a country, we've lost our minds. Everything is viewed through a political prism. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.4.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.4.3    3 weeks ago
I agree. Just like Trump has the right to hold rallies.

I never said no, but just like your commentary about DiBlasio and Cuomo, he should have been more responsible. None of them were. I find that really pathetic. 

I will bet mask use dropped off nationally after the BLM protests.

Probably. Most protesters did wear masks, but no social distancing and that is the real key. Same thing with the rally, but no masks and no social distancing. But then again, we have a President who also never wears a mask. We are a country of dumbasses and our covid curves show that, as compared to the world. Our leaders are failing us. 

As a country, we've lost our minds. Everything is viewed through a political prism. 

Absolutely! And my nerves are wearing thin with that. 

 
 
 
CB
6.4.5  CB   replied to  Sean Treacy @6.4.1    3 weeks ago

Oh go ahead already: Just take everything out of proportions, context, and off-kilter.  So typical  of some Trump conservatives to always look for a way to hark on the 'outs.'  Now according to the aforementioned, Trump needs no explaining. This is the game itself!

 
 
 
CB
6.4.6  CB   replied to  Sean Treacy @6.4.3    3 weeks ago

You can climb down off your 'soapbox' of distortion now. Because as you may remember Donald Trump never wore a mask to begin with and Trump supporters' pattern off of him and not BLM protestors! Indeed, the contrarian in Trump supporters will not permit you to 'trend' with BLM.

So just stop being untruthful.

Trump reality is all about game. Though how sad it is, for any group of grown men and women to delude themselves into thinking and behaving as if they are perfect in all they say and do! What a complex hell it must be to live in an invented state of "truthiness" indefinitely!

Truthiness is 'less filling' once its in the 'seat' of the mind. It is not mental nutrition—because it;s all noise, "sounds and cymbals," and its only consequence is to delay the inevitable 'crashes.'

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
6.4.7  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.4    2 weeks ago
No one encouraged people to protest or riot,

That's been fact checked and determined to be Absolutely False!

 
 
 
Krishna
6.4.8  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.4.1    2 weeks ago

To quote Bill De Blasio and Andrew Cuomo "we encourage people to protest peacefully and make their voices heard.” 

"to protest peacefully".... don't you realized that you just negated your own argument? (falsely alledging that they were encouraged to riot when in fact "protest peacefully by definition precludes rioting!

(Unless you' are under the delusion that "pRioting" is the same as "protesting peacefully". In which case I call an "impasse"...and that's being kind on my part...if ya catch my drift, homie!'')

 
 
 
Krishna
6.5  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    2 weeks ago
Funny how it went away for that week

What week? It never "went away for a week" (except perhaps in the minds of the people on Fox News whenit was convenient for them to express their Biden derangement Syndrome).

The number of new cases has ebbed and flowed-- and has been varying its ups and downs from state to state. But it never "went away for a week"

(If I'm wrong, you should have no trouble in producing several links, from reliable sources-- But I'll settle for one or two :-)

Go ajead provide a link-- I dare you! 

(ROFL)

 
 
 
CB
7  CB     3 weeks ago
 "This is a free country and I can do what I want. If I want to wear a mask, I wear a mask. If I don’t, I don't. If I get sick, I get sick. That's my choice," Tom continued, adding that he thought the number of coronavirus deaths was being "padded." Sheri agreed: "Some of these numbers aren't real."

It is clear to me (as I know some people like this), that many of these attendees beating a path to the media cameras did not read the fine print legalese on there way to the "protest."

They simply scanned the event poster and signed; thus, thinking they have done a detailed analysis of Trump undoubtedly legal document for 'squares' alleviating him from any and all damages (he ain't giving them s-h-i-t in cash or funding, exposing the event setting, and likely warning if a suit is filed against him, Trump can get awarded for the 'insult' to his person!


This time, the show is all! Because we just might get to watch "Big Show"  Trump shoot himself in the foot with the coronvirus (Covid-19) 'spectacular' he says is not a problem. It is a contest between the Trump administration and scientists. If you're placing bets: Trump cheats a lot on his side of the ledger.

However fellow liberals beware: next time - the media needs to CHARGE the campaign for all this free media to the run-up of a Trump event.

Media! You're falling for the 'watch a crash' with a few of your million friends yet again. Donald Trump does know television 'heads,' and he strums them all with his narratives of peace and war; love and violence; sex and God. Wit and tittilation!

MAKE TRUMP PAY FOR THE  EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF COVERAGE HE GETS (ASSIGNED) OR PULL AWAY FROM HIM. It is not fair to  the other candidate who would have to invent BS to traffic in on a grand scale to equal the BS of Trump.

No decent person should have to do that!

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1  Texan1211  replied to  CB @7    3 weeks ago
MAKE TRUMP PAY FOR THE  EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF COVERAGE HE GETS (ASSIGNED) OR PULL AWAY FROM HIM. It is not fair to  the other candidate who would have to invent BS to traffic in on a grand scale to equal the BS of Trump.

Well, go right ahead and do so. All you need is a contract with Trump showing that he wants to pay for coverage the left willingly gives him to give their leftists viewers something to constantly squawk about.

 
 
 
CB
7.1.1  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @7.1    3 weeks ago

The channel can show just the 'essentials' of presidential level coverage. All of this "lead up" crap going forward: Make that fake blonde "bombshell" pay for it! To that end, the media cut out on his speech after his opening words.

No more "glorified" and OVERRATED media exposure for Trump, please!

Media, Trump is going to bait his hook with "made for television harangues and angst"  - it is all designed to hog all the free media - all the time. Don't fall for it! Tell your news anchors not to fall for it this time.

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  CB @7.1.1    3 weeks ago

Your time may be better spent writing the networks instead of just grousing about the coverage THEY choose to provide to attract the most viewers.

You know--the people responsible for giving your President so much air time!

Just like they did in 2016.

 
 
 
CB
7.1.3  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.2    3 weeks ago

Oh, you betcha! I have in the past and and continue to contact the networks, candidate(s), and other officials as necessary. Don't you fret about my griping,Texan'. They are intended to raise awareness of a state of being.

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  CB @7.1.3    3 weeks ago

I am sure you do all you can.

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CB
7.1.5  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.4    3 weeks ago

I sure do! When the Spirit leads, I get a goin'!

 
 
 
Krishna
7.1.6  seeder  Krishna  replied to  CB @7.1.5    2 weeks ago
When the Spirit leads, I get a goin'!

There's an olde sayin':

When the goings tough, the tough get...

...spiritual???'

 
 
 
Krishna
7.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  CB @7    2 weeks ago
MAKE TRUMP PAY FOR THE  EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF COVERAGE HE GETS (ASSIGNED) OR PULL AWAY FROM HIM

Actually I think a case that might have an even better chance of success in court would be a class action suit v Trump for his role in not preventing the rapid spread of the Virus in its early stages.

Yes-- let's do that!

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @7.2    2 weeks ago

Please let me know when and if you actually even make an attempt to pull such a stunt.

 
 
 
CB
7.2.2  CB   replied to  Krishna @7.2    2 weeks ago

Hi Krishna! I am just saying the cable news shows need to get paid for showing those campaign productions of Trump. Or, don't charge Biden either. Trump gets enough free "stuff" publicity!

 
 
 
PJ
8  PJ    3 weeks ago

I love it when all the stupid people gather in one place.  Unfortunately, after they gather and infect each other they will go back to their communities (full of smart people who didn't go see trump) and infect them.

I encourage anyone who thinks they've become infected by someone who participated in the Oklahoma COVID-19 rally to sue them for any damages or death incurred.

 
 
 
pat wilson
8.1  pat wilson  replied to  PJ @8    3 weeks ago
love it when all the stupid people gather in one place. 

Photos from the rally look like one of those "People of Walmart" slideshows you see on Yahoo.com.

 
 
 
bugsy
8.1.1  bugsy  replied to  pat wilson @8.1    3 weeks ago
Photos from the rally look like one of those "People of Walmart" slideshows you see on Yahoo.co

And the democrat riots look like, well, just a bunch of thugs stealing shit. You don't see that happen in those Yahoo slideshows.

 
 
 
pat wilson
8.1.2  pat wilson  replied to  bugsy @8.1.1    3 weeks ago

There are no "democrat riots". What an ignorant comment.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
8.1.3  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  pat wilson @8.1.2    3 weeks ago
What an ignorant comment.

At least.

 
 
 
Krishna
8.1.4  seeder  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @8.1.1    2 weeks ago
And the democrat riots

There were no "democrat riots".

Although if in fact there had been, it would be extremely easy for you to produce several links-- from reliable sources, natch.

But I'll settle for just one.

(Until then I think its reasonable to assume that its all just yet another big Fig Newton of your imagination!) 

 
 
 
Krishna
8.1.5  seeder  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @8.1.1    2 weeks ago
And the democrat riots

There were no "democrat riots".

Although if in fact there had been, it would be extremely easy for you to produce several links-- from reliable sources, natch.

But I'll settle for just one.

(Until then I think its reasonable to assume that its all just yet another big Fig Newton of your imagination!) 

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.2  Texan1211  replied to  PJ @8    3 weeks ago
I encourage anyone who thinks they've become infected by someone who participated in the Oklahoma COVID-19 rally to sue them for any damages or death incurred.

That should be so easy to prove in a court of law I am surprised more leftists haven't called for that nonsense!

 
 
 
MrFrost
9  MrFrost    3 weeks ago

Latest news: 

Trump canceled the address to the, "overflow crowd" because.....there was no overflow crowd. The venue is largely empty and the trump campaign is texting supporters that there is still plenty of space to fill before the rally starts.. 

A photo from inside the venue shows many empty seats as Eric Trump leaves the stage. 

512

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.1  JohnRussell  replied to  MrFrost @9    3 weeks ago

COOL

 
 
 
CB
9.2  CB   replied to  MrFrost @9    3 weeks ago

It's a word-picture for not wanting to die (or kill 'grands' and the kids) for a near-distance view of a self-absorbed, fake blonde, megalomaniac!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
9.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MrFrost @9    3 weeks ago

Erik is wearing a mask?  His daddy is not going to like that as Trump thinks masks are to make him look bad.  NO SOUP FOR HIM!

 
 
 
MrFrost
9.3.1  MrFrost  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @9.3    3 weeks ago

That's not Eric, it's a reporter. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
9.3.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MrFrost @9.3.1    3 weeks ago

Oh okay then NO SOUP FOR HIM!

 
 
 
MrFrost
10  MrFrost    3 weeks ago
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Steve Schmidt
@SteveSchmidtSES
This is what happened tonight. I’m dead serious when I say this. The teens of America have struck a savage blow against
. All across America teens ordered tickets to this event. The fools on the campaign bragged about a million tickets. lol. .
4:36 PM · Jun 20, 2020 · Twitter for iPhone
 
 
 
JohnRussell
11  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

I have the Trump rally on You Tube. Not seeing too many masks among those fools. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
11.1  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @11    3 weeks ago

3 or 4% estimate was generous, lol

Mostly by black Republicans.

Lots of people looking for the bathrooms, then leaving.

The crowd is shrinking before our eyes.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
11.1.1  Raven Wing  replied to  Split Personality @11.1    3 weeks ago
Mostly by black Republicans.

Trump likely found out that was the case and why he cancelled everything. There was no one there he felt could make him look good. Only whites can do that ya know.  /s

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
11.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @11    3 weeks ago

Trump would have security throw them out if they wore masks.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
11.2.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @11.2    3 weeks ago

A woman was thrown out for wearing an "I Can't Breathe" t-shirt.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
11.2.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  sandy-2021492 @11.2.1    3 weeks ago

I guess freedom of speech is not OK when it disagrees with Trumpadorers.

 
 
 
Split Personality
11.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  sandy-2021492 @11.2.1    3 weeks ago

and arrested for "obstructing police"

(although the police did their damnedest to talk her into leaving on her own )

 
 
 
MrFrost
12  MrFrost    3 weeks ago

The crowds at the Tulsa rally are, "smaller than expected"... I bet Stormy Daniels said the same thing..

 
 
 
Split Personality
12.1  Split Personality  replied to  MrFrost @12    3 weeks ago

I don't know if you saw any of the rest of my Brad Parscales collection of solicitations I posted a couple of days ago

but I thought this one was cute and ironic in light of the poor Tulsa turnout.

These solicitations are insane and non stop.

This is for your eyes only, Friend.
Only 1,000 Patriots can make the Presidential Donor List today.

Friend,

I’m about to go on stage in Tulsa, Oklahoma to hold my very first Trump MAGA Rally in three months.

I know the Fake News media won’t ever tell you the FACTS about what’s REALLY going on in our Nation or about all of my administration’s hard work to Keep America Safe , which is why tonight is so important.

But, before I get on that stage for what will be our most EPIC rally ever, I need to know that you’re still in this fight with me.

I’ve asked my team to hand me an updated list of donors who choose to step up at this critical time, and I’ll be disappointed if I don’t see your name on there.

I’m going to review the Presidential Donor List right before the rally starts, and I want to see that YOU gave $42 to show your dedicated support.

Please contribute $42 or more in the NEXT HOUR to get on the Presidential Donor List I see before I hold my first Trump MAGA Rally back. >>

(skipped all of the donation links to https://secure.winred.com/tmagac/presidential-donor-list-rally?amount=42&utm_medium=email&utm_source=cc_hf&utm_campaign=20200620_1303326_presidential-donor-list-pre-ok-rally-hf_donaldjtrump_tmagac&utm_content=gop_direct-ask&utm_cc=img_1303326_recVt4xVhbwgMjDdL )

The Democrats are never going to stop coming after me, Friend. While they praise the thousands of rioters and looters destroying our communities, they’re simultaneously trying to Covid-Shame us for holding a rally. They’ll never be happy no matter what I do.

We need to remain strong. I’m counting on EVERY PATRIOT, including YOU, to step up right now and help make sure the Left knows that we are STRONGER than ever before.

There’s still time left to contribute to get on the list, but you have to act IMMEDIATELY .

Remember this offer is only available to 1,000 Patriots. 750 have already accepted - I’m just waiting on you, Friend.

Please contribute ANY AMOUNT in the NEXT HOUR to get on the Presidential Donor List my team hands me.

Thank you,


Donald J. Trump
President of the United States

I love my personal relationship with Brad Parscales and Joel Osteen.../s

 
 
 
Krishna
12.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Split Personality @12.1    3 weeks ago
I love my personal relationship with Brad Parscales and Joel Osteen.../s

Yes it sounds just like the nonsense that those evangelical nutcases keep putting forth. (Although maybe they're not so nutty after all-- these preachers have a very comfortable lifestyle-- thanks to the generosity of their "flock"!)

 
 
 
Krishna
12.1.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @12.1.1    3 weeks ago

I love my personal relationship with Brad Parscales and Joel Osteen.../s

Yes it sounds just like the nonsense that those evangelical nutcases keep putting forth. (Although maybe they're not so nutty after all-- these preachers have a very comfortable lifestyle-- thanks to the generosity (& gullibility) of their "flock"!

That reminds of this-- supposedly a true story about Adlai Stevenson. (He was the Democratic opponent to Eisenhower and since he he lost the election many people don't remember him. But he was a really witty guy):

Someone said:

"intelligent politicians (I know it is a rarity like the Loch Ness monster)"

But someone else replied:

There are plenty of intelligent politicians. There is a shortage of intelligent citizens to vote for them.

In 1956 Adlai Stevenson was on the campaign trail, when a citizen shouted to him, "All thinking people will vote for you!"

Stevenson replied, "That's not enough! I need a majority!"

 
 
 
Krishna
12.1.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @12.1.2    3 weeks ago

One of the things Mark Twain was known for was his criticism of politicians. There are several really biting quotes of his re: politicians. One of my favs is:

Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
13  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

This is a screen shot of the rally moments after VP Pence made his warm up speech for Trump just now. 800 .

  Empty seats all over the place. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
13.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @13    3 weeks ago
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Dan Pfeiffer
@danpfeiffer
·
8m
The Emperor has no crowd
 
 
 
JohnRussell
13.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1    3 weeks ago
Stephen Espinoza
@StephenEspinoza
· 9m
"Over 1,000,000 ticket requests" (per Trump's campaign manager) and about 990,000 changed their minds and decided to stay home? twitter.com/RexChapman/sta…
 
 
 
JBB
13.1.2  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.1    3 weeks ago

BOK Center holds 20,000 but is < 1/4 full...

All outdoor and overflow venues cancelled.

Nobody Showed! Trump in Tulsa is a BUST!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
13.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @13.1.2    3 weeks ago

Trump just entered and is starting his speech. There appears to be thousands of empty seats. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
13.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1    3 weeks ago

Dan Rather just put out a call on social media asking Sean Spicer for a crowd count jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Raven Wing
13.1.5  Raven Wing  replied to  sandy-2021492 @13.1.4    3 weeks ago

I am sure Dan will get an answer that will be much closer to the the truth. jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ender
13.1.6  Ender  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.3    3 weeks ago

Only fox is showing it. I turned in real quick to check and they won't show the crowd.

Can't watch for long because his voice makes me sick.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
13.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Ender @13.1.6    3 weeks ago

its on you tube

 
 
 
JohnRussell
13.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  sandy-2021492 @13.1.4    3 weeks ago

I like this one

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sandy-2021492
13.1.9  sandy-2021492  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.8    3 weeks ago

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Split Personality
13.1.10  Split Personality  replied to  Ender @13.1.6    3 weeks ago

Msnbc is showing it bit mostly without the sound

they replay significant lies....lol

 
 
 
Kavika
13.1.11  Kavika   replied to  sandy-2021492 @13.1.4    3 weeks ago

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sandy-2021492
13.1.12  sandy-2021492  replied to  Kavika @13.1.11    3 weeks ago

All you need is a Sharpie.  Problem solved.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
13.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @13.1.10    3 weeks ago

Trump has talked for 15 solid minutes about his adventure with the ramp at West Point.  No wonder his rally speeches last two hours. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
13.1.14  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  sandy-2021492 @13.1.4    3 weeks ago

The problem with that is that Spicer can't count past 20 with his socks and shoes off.

 
 
 
Krishna
13.1.15  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @13.1.14    3 weeks ago
The problem with that is that Spicer can't count past 20 with his socks and shoes off.

:LOL! jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Krishna
13.1.16  seeder  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1    2 weeks ago
The Emperor has no crowd

That meme will live in the annals of history!

 
 
 
Krishna
13.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @13    3 weeks ago
Empty seats all over the place. 

And (perhaps not surprisingly) people in the seats that are filled have chosen not to social distance-- they are literally sitting so close to those on either side of them that they are touching. 

 
 
 
Krishna
13.2.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @13.2    3 weeks ago

Empty seats all over the place. 

And (perhaps not surprisingly) people in the seats that are filled have chosen not to social distance-- they are literally sitting so close to those on either side of them that they are touching. 

And those in the seat directly in front of them or directly behind them are a mere sneeze or cough away! jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
CB
13.2.2  CB   replied to  Krishna @13.2.1    3 weeks ago

Breathing and talking directly on each other's necks and faces! They can't possibly know the people around them life stories (of disease and sicknesses) from 'Adam!'

If there is one thing this period of coronavirus has taught me it is that there are a number of contagions we transmit to each other based upon our traditional practices and (lack of proper) cleanliness. Thus, those people in the stadium looked to all the world like 'aliens' to me.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
14  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

The spin has begun

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Split Personality
14.1  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @14    3 weeks ago

Pascale probably is out by Wednesday, Trump is wondering if Manafort is available.

/s

 
 
 
Krishna
14.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Split Personality @14.1    2 weeks ago

Trump is wondering if Manafort is available.

Or perhaps he's grooming Flynn for the job?

(What is it with trump and all these convicted felons anyway?)

 
 
 
bbl-1
14.2  bbl-1  replied to  JohnRussell @14    3 weeks ago

Doesn't Brad Parscale own a Lamborghini, a yacht, nice home, nice condo and a few other essentials courtesy of Trump/MAGA funds? 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
14.2.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  bbl-1 @14.2    3 weeks ago

Count on it.

 
 
 
Krishna
14.2.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  bbl-1 @14.2    2 weeks ago
Doesn't Brad Parscale own a Lamborghini, a yacht, nice home, nice condo and a few other essentials courtesy of Trump/MAGA funds? 

Probably. But I have a feeling he doesn't own Trump, because that would be Putin.

 
 
 
MrFrost
14.3  MrFrost  replied to  JohnRussell @14    3 weeks ago

Yep, I had to respond to that tweet. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
15  bbl-1    3 weeks ago

Could it be that Trump has his 'allegiance base' and nothing more?

Could it be that Trump, since attaining 'his position' has not expended one iota of effort to bring into his base those that did not support him the first time around?

Could it also be that 'The Trump Show' only has appeal for the rerun crowd who are totally disinterested in anything enlightening or grounded in actual facts or data?

Or could it simply be that Trump's only appeal lies with those who revel in anything unappealing in consideration of normal norms?

 
 
 
Krishna
15.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  bbl-1 @15    2 weeks ago

Could it be that Trump has his 'allegiance base' and nothing more?

Could it be that Trump, since attaining 'his position' has not expended one iota of effort to bring into his base those that did not support him the first time around?

Could it also be that 'The Trump Show' only has appeal for the rerun crowd who are totally disinterested in anything enlightening or grounded in actual facts or data?

Or could it simply be that Trump's only appeal lies with those who revel in anything unappealing in consideration of normal norms?

The answer to these and other fascinating questions will be revealed in our next thrilling episode of "Trump's Derangement Syndromes Unveiled" (and other spine-tingling stories by the same author)

 
 
 
Kavika
16  Kavika     3 weeks ago

BREAKING NEWS, 

200 LIBERAL SNOWFLAKE BAD ASS PROTESTORS STOP 100,000 TUMP SUPPORTERS FROM ENTERING RALLY HEADQUARTERS.

LOLOLOL

 
 
 
Kavika
16.1  Kavika   replied to  Kavika @16    3 weeks ago

SEAN SPICER PHONED IN THE CROWD COUNT.

I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT THIS IS THE BIGGEST CROWD IN RALLY HISTORY. THE NUMBERS ARE IN THE BAZILIONS. AMERICAN HAS NEVER SEEN A RALLY THIS BIGLY.

Meanwhile its been reported that because of the 200 liberal snowflake badass protestors, Trump and Donny Jr. headed to the bunker.

Trumps parting words were, ''Covfefe to all''.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
16.1.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Kavika @16.1    3 weeks ago

My cousin said, "I've attracted bigger crowds trying to parallel park."

 
 
 
Kavika
16.1.2  Kavika   replied to  sandy-2021492 @16.1.1    3 weeks ago
My cousin said, "I've attracted bigger crowds trying to parallel park."

LOL, good one.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
16.1.3  Raven Wing  replied to  sandy-2021492 @16.1.1    3 weeks ago
My cousin said, "I've attracted bigger crowds trying to parallel park."

OMG....I was trying to parallel park in front of a downtown office building. The space was big enough, but, the two cars on each end of the space were parked rather crooked, so that meant I had to really maneuver to get my car parked.

After I had backed in and hit the curb, I had to pull out again. Then I was too far out from the curb. On my third attempt, I say a man and woman standing on the sidewalk watching me, and the man started to show me which was to turn my wheels. As I tried my 4th attempt, sort of doing what the man was indicating, 3 more people showed up and began trying to give me directions. On the 5th attempt the people in the sidewalk started to argue about what I needed to do to get parked. They were yelling and flailing their arms around to show what they thought I needed to do, when two more people showed up and stood watching them arguing. 

I finally got my car parked and left. And as I left, the people in the sidewalk were no longer interested in helping me park as they were arguing who was right and wrong. I will never know when they noticed that the car was parked and I was gone. However, I wish I had been able to see the look on their faces when that moment of discovery came. jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
16.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Raven Wing @16.1.3    3 weeks ago

I think I've parallel parked less than 10 times since I had to do it to get my license.  There's just not much need for it in any town I've lived in.  I can pretty much always find a space I can pull forward into, or an off-street parking lot.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
16.1.5  Raven Wing  replied to  sandy-2021492 @16.1.4    3 weeks ago

I only had to parallel park a few times before I moved into where I am now. But, I've been here for a few years now and I sort of mark my parking spot on the street in front of my apt, as I park there most of the time. And most of the others in this building are fairly new comers and they kind of stake out their own spots. But, on that one occasion I posted about was only my 3rd time parallel parking, and to have to do it with a space that was all skrewed up by the jerks who parked in front and back of the space made it so much harder. 

I thought I did really good in being able to get it right with only 5 attempts. jrSmiley_74_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
16.1.6  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Raven Wing @16.1.3    3 weeks ago

If they had not taken parallel parking out of the driving test when I took it, I would still be using buses to get around.

 
 
 
Krishna
16.1.7  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Raven Wing @16.1.3    3 weeks ago
As I tried my 4th attempt, sort of doing what the man was indicating, 3 more people showed up and began trying to give me directions. On the 5th attempt the people in the sidewalk started to argue about what I needed to do to get parked. They were yelling and flailing their arms around to show what they thought I needed to do, when two more people showed up and stood watching them arguing. 

LOL-- quite a funny story!

They were yelling and flailing their arms around to show what they thought I needed to do, when two more people showed up and stood watching them arguing.

Do you know any of them? If so, why not invite them to join NT-- they's fit in perfectly in our political "discussions". jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
16.1.8  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  sandy-2021492 @16.1.1    3 weeks ago
My cousin said, "I've attracted bigger crowds trying to parallel park."

Hahahahaha!!!!!!  Too funny. (Says the nun who failed her first driving test because she knocked down both cones...)

 
 
 
Split Personality
16.1.9  Split Personality  replied to  Raven Wing @16.1.3    3 weeks ago

This is the best idea ever, in the same shopping center as the Dublin PA DMV.

I got tired of buying cones and other gimmicks after teaching my first & second and the third was terrified.

Works like charm

 
 
 
Split Personality
16.1.10  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @16.1.9    3 weeks ago

One level of nervousness when you are the only one there.

When there are other cars circling to take a turn it ramps up the tension.  You get one attempt then circle around and get in line again.

Notice the other parents driving by

giving the black car the evil eye, lol

Been there too many Saturdays and Sundays.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
16.1.11  Raven Wing  replied to  Split Personality @16.1.9    3 weeks ago

Great video, SP. What made my attempts to parallel park that one time was due to the fact that the car in front and the one in back were both parked crooked. The one in front actually had the rear tire up on the curb, The one in back was parked half in and half out of the space. So trying to get my car parked in between them was made 3 times as hard. I would not have put in as much effort and time if there had been other nearby parking, but, that was not the case at that time, and walking several blocks with a broken ankle was not my idea of a great idea. So I just bit the bullet and did my best. I got lucky, as neither the front nor the back of my car was injured when the other two drivers departed. While I am fully covered insurance wise, but, it is just the hassle of having to get it repaired. jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sparty On
16.1.12  Sparty On  replied to  Raven Wing @16.1.11    3 weeks ago

Back in the day when i took drivers Ed it was still a school sponsored thing.   A local cart dealer donated cars and you spent part of your summer driving around the HS parking lot.   One requirement back then was everyone had to get experience on a manual transmission.   The car we had for that was not chosen wisely.   It was a pretty powerful Mustang.   I loved it since i'd been driving standard transmissions for years on farms.   Fun car for a kid to drive but for the kids who had never driven a standard it was some very bad mojo.   Didn't get a picture of it but one gal managed to literally drive it up a tree.

It was something like this just not snow related:

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No one was hurt so it was pretty hilarious seeing that car half way up that tree

 
 
 
Raven Wing
16.1.13  Raven Wing  replied to  Krishna @16.1.7    3 weeks ago
Do you know any of them? If so, why not invite them to join NT-- they's fit in perfectly in our political "discussions".

I didn't know any of them, they were perfect strangers to me. They were only trying to help out a poor soul. However, if I had been a member of NT at the time I would certainly have invited them to join NT. They could have offered some great advice to our members. jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Raven Wing
16.1.14  Raven Wing  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @16.1.6    3 weeks ago
If they had not taken parallel parking out of the driving test when I took it, I would still be using buses to get around.

Don't know why, but, when I took my last driving test, which was a good while ago, they did not have me try to parallel park. And I was very disappointed as I had been practicing for weeks to be sure I could do it the first time and get it right. jrSmiley_89_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ender
16.1.15  Ender  replied to  Raven Wing @16.1.14    3 weeks ago

I never had to either. I just had to drive a cop around a few blocks. He yelled at me when I didn't slow down in a school zone.

Still got my license.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
16.1.16  Raven Wing  replied to  Ender @16.1.15    3 weeks ago
He yelled at me when I didn't slow down in a school zone.

The last person to sit with me while I took my driving test was an older gentleman. He was very calm and poised while he went through the list of things for me to do to be sure the car was in safe driving condition. Then as I pulled out of the parking lot his demeanor suddenly changed to one of wide eyed panic. Maybe because my tires squealed a bit as I pushed the gas peddle. 

But, after we got back to the parking lot he seemed to calm down a bit, jumped out of the car and wiped the sweat off his face. He seemed to be rather warm in the car even though I had the A/C on in the middle of winter. jrSmiley_74_smiley_image.gif

I was really worried that I would not pass, especially, after I nearly hit the fire hydrant to avoid hitting a glass bottle in the street that could have caused a flat. 

However, I was lucky and passed. jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
16.1.17  sandy-2021492  replied to  Raven Wing @16.1.14    3 weeks ago

Our test course had a setup like the one SP posted above, but without the cones.  There were two posts marking the front and back of the parking space.  I got it on the first try, because my dad had taken me to the course several times to practice.  He stood so close that I had to watch how sharp I turned the wheel, or I'd risk hitting him.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
16.1.18  Raven Wing  replied to  sandy-2021492 @16.1.17    2 weeks ago
He stood so close that I had to watch how sharp I turned the wheel, or I'd risk hitting him.

Wow! That would make one nervous. Your Father putting himself in harms way was certainly a way to make one pay close attention and make sure you miss him.  jrSmiley_85_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
16.1.19  sandy-2021492  replied to  Raven Wing @16.1.18    2 weeks ago

He'd have only received a minor bump.  The risk of damage to my psyche for hitting him was much worse jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Krishna
16.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Kavika @16    3 weeks ago
200 LIBERAL SNOWFLAKE BAD ASS PROTESTORS STOP 100,000 TUMP SUPPORTERS FROM ENTERING RALLY HEADQUARTERS.

And it wasn]t only Dear Leader's wimpy supporters--  in addition to them, Trump's personal security detail-- plus the armed Oklahoma police police present-- couldn't stop the so-called "snowflakes" either!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
16.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @16    3 weeks ago

Ok...here's what cracks me up in addition to puzzling me. If liberal snowflakes are weak and not "manly men" then how are they going to stop 100,000 "manly men" with high testerone and bring it on attitudes?

 
 
 
CB
16.3.1  CB   replied to  Trout Giggles @16.3    3 weeks ago

Selecto.vision!

Trump 'World Inc.' loves one-way-ness. Donald Trump and his trained supporters all acting on and reacting to his lies are some of the most confirming biased people in this country, bar none. They expect us to smile them on as they 'rag-out' truth and leave it standing in the public square in its male Springtex stretch underwear or female bloomers! We shall not humor or suffer fools in this election period.

Ask any Trump supporter:

  1. How do you know when Trump is telling the truth?

Watch 'em stare back blankly or scatter (to the corners of the web)! They will be MIA from discussion for days at at time afterwards!

Give exposure to the inconsistencies right where they stand! Do not delay!

 
 
 
Krishna
16.4  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Kavika @16    2 weeks ago

200 LIBERAL SNOWFLAKE BAD ASS PROTESTORS STOP 100,000 TRUMP SUPPORTERS FROM ENTERING RALLY HEADQUARTERS.

Truer words were never spoken! 

Gives a whole new meaning to the term "Snowflakes"!

 
 
 
Krishna
16.5  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Kavika @16    2 weeks ago

200 LIBERAL SNOWFLAKE BAD ASS PROTESTORS STOP 100,000 TRUMP SUPPORTERS FROM ENTERING RALLY HEADQUARTERS.

Truer words were never spoken! 

Gives a whole new meaning to the term "Snowflakes"!

 
 
 
MonsterMash
17  MonsterMash    3 weeks ago

100,000 are expected in Tulsa tonight to protest Trump's rally. Because they'll there in opposition to Trump COVID-19 isn't a problem.

Meanwhile, NYC has hired 1,000 workers to conduct contact tracing to monitor the spread of coronavirus, but they will not be asking people if they participated in any of the protests that have taken place throughout the city following the death of George Floyd, according to a report from the local outlet The City.

The report states that contact tracers will ask people who have tested positive for COVID-19 about their living situations as well as general questions about contacts, but they have not been told to ask about participation in protests

.

 
 
 
bbl-1
17.1  bbl-1  replied to  MonsterMash @17    3 weeks ago

Of course everything in the illusion you posted is illusionary.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
17.1.1  MonsterMash  replied to  bbl-1 @17.1    3 weeks ago
Of course everything in the illusion you posted is illusionary

It's a fact Jack

 
 
 
Krishna
17.1.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  MonsterMash @17.1.1    3 weeks ago

Who's Jack?

 
 
 
Raven Wing
17.1.3  Raven Wing  replied to  Krishna @17.1.2    3 weeks ago
Who's Jack?

His invisible playmate?  ??

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
17.1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Raven Wing @17.1.3    3 weeks ago

Well, men do tend to name their........

 
 
 
Raven Wing
17.1.5  Raven Wing  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @17.1.4    3 weeks ago
Well, men do tend to name their........

True. Why is that I wonder. I have never heard a woman call her privates something like "Wiley Wilma," or "Vigorous Vickie," or the like. But, men seem to need to give their 'friend' a name. And it is usually something totally childish. jrSmiley_74_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
17.1.6  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Raven Wing @17.1.5    3 weeks ago
And it is usually something totally childish.

A while back I heard this description of the difference between the two sexes:

When little girls become adults they become women. When little boys "grow up". . . they . . . remain little boys!

(I am not saying that I agree or disagree with that . . . but I do think it is "food for thought"). 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
17.1.7  Raven Wing  replied to  Krishna @17.1.6    3 weeks ago
but I do think it is "food for thought"). 

Indeed it is. And it does explain a few things about most men to some extent, and under some circumstances. As in insisting on giving some of their own body parts, as well as their wife's, girlfriends, partners's body parts. 

Why they seem to have the need to do that is confusing to me. The only time I have ever heard a woman speak of her breasts a name is when a woman next to me at the gym on day referred to hers as 'puppies'. jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
17.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  MonsterMash @17    2 weeks ago

Because they'll there in opposition to Trump COVID-19 isn't a problem.

WTF?

Of course its a problem!!!

(Heh)

 
 
 
Krishna
17.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  MonsterMash @17    2 weeks ago

Because they'll there in opposition to Trump COVID-19 isn't a problem.

WTF?

Of course its a problem!!!

(Heh)

 
 
 
Sparty On
18  Sparty On    3 weeks ago

Trump is so deep in some of your heads he’ll never leave.

Hilarious!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
18.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @18    3 weeks ago

And how is that different from Trump supporters who still bring up Hillary?

 
 
 
Krishna
18.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @18.1    3 weeks ago
And how is that different from Trump supporters who still bring up Hillary?

Exactly!

 
 
 
Sparty On
18.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Krishna @18.1.1    3 weeks ago

Nah, not even close.

 
 
 
Krishna
18.1.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Sparty On @18.1.2    3 weeks ago
Nah, not even close.

Link?

 
 
 
Sparty On
18.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  Krishna @18.1.3    3 weeks ago

You first.   You agreed with the comment.

Link?

 
 
 
TᵢG
19  TᵢG    3 weeks ago
"This is a free country and I can do what I want. If I want to wear a mask, I wear a mask. If I don’t, I don't. If I get sick, I get sick. That's my choice,"

How many hold the position that wearing a mask is to protect oneself rather than to protect those around us?   (I suspect the % is high.)  I wonder what this individual would say in response to that information.   Would he still insist on 'free country' right to potentially infect those he chooses to be around?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
19.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  TᵢG @19    3 weeks ago
Would he still insist on 'free country' right to potentially infect those he chooses to be around?

Most likely.  It seems to be part of the mindset that they believe they should do as they please, and if others don't want to get sick, they should stay home.  Never mind that those others might need to leave their homes to get groceries, medications, etc.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
19.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  sandy-2021492 @19.1    3 weeks ago

We've had people right here on NT say that same thing.

"I won't wear a mask! If someone is afraid of getting sick they should just stay home!"

I called one such person a prick but I should have said selfish prick.

 
 
 
Gordy327
19.1.2  Gordy327  replied to  Trout Giggles @19.1.1    3 weeks ago
I called one such person a prick but I should have said selfish prick.

You're right either way.

 
 
 
CB
19.2  CB   replied to  TᵢG @19    3 weeks ago

People who speak and act like that, I choose to wear my 'best' masks around. Even two masks at the same time where practical! Mask reinforcement.

 
 
 
CB
19.2.1  CB   replied to  CB @19.2    3 weeks ago

There was a reporter on air this morning from yesterday's Tulsa "protest," and he had two masks on (you could see the first one sticking out from under the second) and I said to myself: "You go, man!"  Now that is what I'm talking about. When you have to deal with 'stupe' you are gonna want to have a plan!

That reporters mask had a mask onA man who gets it. A man after my own heart! (I even sneak 'inserts' inside my masks for additional warding against germs.)

 
 
 
Krishna
19.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  TᵢG @19    3 weeks ago
How many hold the position that wearing a mask is to protect oneself rather than to protect those around us?   (I suspect the % is high

That's a good point!

It seems the vast majority of people believe wesaring a mask has only one purpose-- to protect themselves. But it also has another equally important purpose-- to keep the wearer from infecting others!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
19.3.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Krishna @19.3    3 weeks ago

The hubby and I take care of seniors and so we view mask-wearing and social distancing very important. It is the considerate thing to do. 

 
 
 
CB
19.3.2  CB   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @19.3.1    3 weeks ago

I wear masks (and buy them often too) and try to find the best ones. It is 'exhausting' as there is so much 'needful' information and then there are the capitalists who want to give you their versions of 'something' making it a real-life game of Buyer Beware!

That said, I wear masks out in public, and in the house around family. As you and others can imagine, I am so ready to have the yellow flashing, "ALERT" light to turn off! I 'soldier' on! (Smile.)

Lordy, I heartedly miss giving big hugs. They meant/mean so much to me!

 
 
 
Krishna
19.3.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @19.3    3 weeks ago
But it also has another equally important purpose-- to keep the wearer from infecting others!

Shocking as it may be . . .there actually are some people who are only thinking of themselves . . and have no consideration of others!

 
 
 
Krishna
19.3.4  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @19.3.3    3 weeks ago
Shocking as it may be . . .there actually are some people who are only thinking of themselves . . and have no consideration of others!

And I'm not going to mention any names . . .but some of them have actually been elected to higher office . . .

(Hopefully the electorate will have learned their lessons and correct the error of their ways in the next elections)...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
19.3.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Krishna @19.3.4    3 weeks ago
And I'm not going to mention any names

I'll say it then....Chicken Shit Coward in Chief aka Donald J Trmp

 
 
 
Kavika
20  Kavika     3 weeks ago

Trump leaving Tulsa after his Tulsa rally. He doesn't seem to be very ''upbeat''.

512

 
 
 
Raven Wing
20.1  Raven Wing  replied to  Kavika @20    3 weeks ago

Awww Kavika......He is just sooo tired after so much running his mouth and telling so many lies in his grand speech to the overflowing crowd in side, he just wore himself out. It is very tiring to think of so many lies at a time, ya know.  /s

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
20.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Raven Wing @20.1    3 weeks ago

He looks  a little sweaty. I saw a photo where some of his makeup rubbed off onto his collar.

And his hair is plastered to his skull

 
 
 
Raven Wing
20.1.2  Raven Wing  replied to  Trout Giggles @20.1.1    3 weeks ago

And I don't see any prancing that he usually does when he has won at something. Probably trying to hide his sh*ty pants. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
20.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Raven Wing @20.1.2    3 weeks ago

I heard a rumor that he's incontinent (shits himself) and that's why he made that fast trip to Walter Reed a few months ago

 
 
 
Raven Wing
20.1.4  Raven Wing  replied to  Trout Giggles @20.1.3    3 weeks ago
I heard a rumor that he's incontinent (shits himself)

I wonder if he wears Depends? Do they make them that big? jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
KDMichigan
20.1.5  KDMichigan  replied to  Raven Wing @20.1.4    3 weeks ago

I don't know, do they?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
20.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Kavika @20    3 weeks ago

That is one long assed tie.  Maybe he is looking for a tree.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
20.2.1  Raven Wing  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @20.2    3 weeks ago
Maybe he is looking for a tree.

Or just tie the two ends together and make a sling for his nimrod limprod.  

 
 
 
Krishna
20.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Kavika @20    3 weeks ago

BREAKING NEWS (Wednesday 6/24):

Stock Selloff Accelerates As Coronavirus Cases Surge In Some States

Stocks sank Wednesday with S&P 500 and Dow selling off as rising numbers of infections spooked investors

 
 
 
Kathleen
21  Kathleen    3 weeks ago

My feelings are.... you should wear a mask when you are going to be around other people other then the people you live with.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
21.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Kathleen @21    3 weeks ago

Exactly what our glorious Governor just announced commencing Friday at 5:00. But the thing is, he always uses a qualifier. "Unless you are outside with family but, if you can't practice 6' social distancing guidelines even out doors, you need to." And the same with indoors............IF you can't use social distancing. I can see it now in the grocery store. 

"Okay no one around. Mask down. Whoops here comes someone who can't understand the arrows on the floor. Mask up. Okay they are gone. Mask down. Oh crap here comes a lady with her kids that can't figure out arrows on the floor. Mask up...................well you get the picture. LOL

 
 
 
Kathleen
21.1.1  Kathleen  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @21.1    3 weeks ago

I went out to eat the other day and hardly anyone was wearing a mask when they got up from the table.  Grrrrrrrrrr

 
 
 
CB
21.1.2  CB   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @21.1    3 weeks ago
"Okay no one around. Mask down. Whoops here comes someone who can't understand the arrows on the floor. Mask up. Okay they are gone. Mask down. Oh crap here comes a lady with her kids that can't figure out arrows on the floor. Mask up.

Why in the world are you touching your mask so much (often)? Put it on and keep it up/on until you finish your outing! If it gives you 'problems' you can grow out of those if you try! I wear a mask on every outing (even with friends and family) .

True story. I was out at an area store oh about two weeks ago. My dear elderly mother was off shopping for herself. I had found a rather inviting couch for sale to rest myself for this endurance 'round' from dear old mom. I am sitting across the room oh about 8 feet at the most from the first row of cash registers and there is a lady in a wheelchair and what appears to be a 14 year old boy standing beside it.

Out of nowhere the boy sneezes—hard! And as I look at him; he is looking back in my direction too! He is clearly congested or was it embarrassment on his face? In any case, he looked for all the world to be waiting on that second 'round' of sneezing that comes following after!

I really wanted my seat for my legs pained me. I always have my masks on and up when I am out! Still, I remember that video demonstration of how sneezes project out across time and space. . . I got up and beat a retreat!

I did not want his germs on myself or outfit. Yeah, it really happened.

I told dear old mom about what had occurred. I assured her we would take our time getting back to the first register (only one open). What's telling is: She never would have know about the 'remains' of a germy sneeze hovering invisibly in the air around the front of the first register's line without me being there for it.

That is how you have to treat this thing. You never know who has been in the space you occupy—next!

Keep the mask in place!

 
 
 
Gordy327
21.1.3  Gordy327  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @21.1    3 weeks ago
"Okay no one around. Mask down. Whoops here comes someone who can't understand the arrows on the floor. Mask up. Okay they are gone. Mask down. Oh crap here comes a lady with her kids that can't figure out arrows on the floor. Mask up...................well you get the picture.

There's a simple solution: if you leave your house, then wear a mask and don't take it off until you return home. Problem solved.

 
 
 
TᵢG
21.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Gordy327 @21.1.3    3 weeks ago

My approach is to put on a mask when I enter a store and take it off when I exit.   Seems to work.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
21.1.5  sandy-2021492  replied to  TᵢG @21.1.4    3 weeks ago

Same here.  I might take mine off if I'm in the outdoor garden center at Lowe's or our local nursery, and nobody is nearby.  Inside, it stays on.

 
 
 
CB
21.1.6  CB   replied to  TᵢG @21.1.4    3 weeks ago

To be honest I don't like or see the need to drive around with a mask on unless I have someone else in the car. In which case I never remove it until the 'day' is ended.

That said, I have been leaving it on more recently for no particular reason (beyond laziness?) I am always mindful of where I lay the mask in the car (in its car container face up).

You know something? I'm having an experience right now that it is good to talk and listen with others about these things! I already had a good thought on the subject!

 
 
 
pat wilson
21.1.7  pat wilson  replied to  TᵢG @21.1.4    3 weeks ago

Same too. It's a fairly simple habit to adopt. Same as hand washing and hand sanitizer.

Why is this so hard for some ? 

 
 
 
Gordy327
21.1.8  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @21.1.4    3 weeks ago
My approach is to put on a mask when I enter a store and take it off when I exit.   Seems to work.

That works too. I keep mine on until I am at least in my car.

 
 
 
Gordy327
21.1.9  Gordy327  replied to  pat wilson