DMV Censorshit

I recently went to the local branch of the North Carolina DMV and I purchased a personalized license tag for my car. I knew I couldn't get " IMPEACH ! " because I had checked it out online and it wasn't available. The clerk entered my new "tag line" (" MPEACH ! ") in the computer and I paid the fee of $30.00. He assured me that I would receive my new tag by mail in about 2 weeks.
I never received my tag. Instead of a tag, I received this letter:
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The letter says:
"PERSONALIZED LICENSE PLATE MPEACH ! WAS REQUESTED FOR YOU IN ERROR. THIS PLATE MAY BE CONSIDERED OFFENSIVE TO OTHERS AND THEREFORE CANNOT BE ISSUED."
Yeah, I guess the guy at the end of the block, who wears a MAGA hat and has the huge confederate flag flying, would cry when my car goes by. There would probably be weeping bigots all over town.
So the State North Cakalacky has decided to violate my First Amendment rights to protect the tender feelings of the members of the fucking KKK.
If I was wealthy, I would sue the state.
Maybe I should write to the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department to give the Attorney General a good laugh.
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Maybe I should have requested "FUCK TRUMP".
Was this really your plate request? If so, I think you should challenge it. If you're interested, I'm happy to tell why I think you have a case.
I assure you that the letter I published is genuine.
I requested "MPEACH !".
The State won't give me my "MPEACH !" license tag (that was paid for).
That IS a fucking violation of my rights.
This site cannot violate anyone's First Amendment rights. This site is not constrained by the First Amendment because it is not a government run site. NewsTalkers can censor anything they want to on this site.
The First Amendment only protects us from government censorshit. The state government censored my license tag. That constitutes a First Amendment violation.
Isn’t Roy Cooper a Democrat?
I know of liberal states that won’t allow “choose life” or some variant of it on their plates. Is that the same kind of violation in your opinion?
I forgot that Texans are experts on that.
Yes.
Are you anti-abortion?
Non of my damn business, but I am anti-assholism if that counts for anything?
Yes, I'm also anti-Trump.
Choose life, my ass. They choose birth. And that's it. After that baby leaves the birth canal, all bets are off. Ask the state for financial aid to take care of your baby? Then she's leech on society according to many on the right. No welfare, they cry. The decision to abort involves the ability to care for the child, whether the child is really wanted since it might get in the way of drug use, etc. It cannot be an easy decision. I have thoughts on how that can be remedied, but it involves finding the father through DNA, registering with the federal government via IRS that the father is obligated to pay of all health and welfare expenses for the child through maturity. If they don't pay, the IRS gets them. But I digress.
Here is just one example of the statistics of what happens to babies who are born on demand by the people who don't give a shit about what really happens to them.
Cite .
How many pro-birth people have foster children in their home? Kill a zygote? Horrors!! Into hell for eternity you go! But burn, starve, beat, sell into sex, neglect? A mere 'meh' for those people. Disgusting.
Then I suggest "HCAEPMI." The bad part about it, most of the remaining Traitor-In-Chief supporters won't get it. The supporters that thought he'd bring change have jumped ship. The only two factions of most of the remaining supporters are those who just "like to see demmies cry, so fuck the country" and thinly veiled racists. Neither faction is made up of deep thinkers, so again ... they just won't get it. Of course, if you park on the opposite side of the parking lane across from a guy with a confederate flag plate, he'll have to look in his mirror to back up.
Quite sure many of the "haters" would think that's "cool".
Then there are askholes. They ask an opinion and do the hell what they want anyway. We all know askholes.
Thank you for acknowledging the "haters" are smarter than the "ignorers."
Wrong. And it's worse than N1GGER. This guy wants everyone to know he's got insecurity problems. Seems to me a person only hates to feel somehow superior.
Dollar to a donut that's on a black person's car. Probably a rapper wannabe.
Doesn't matter. Someone said you can't put NIGGER on a plate, and he's wrong. Again.
OK, well anyway, I think it's an interesting case. The caselaw on this stuff varies a little depending on what part of the plate we're talking about and the reasons for controlling the speech.
For example, one of the seminal cases on license plates was from New Hampshire where someone objected to having the phrase "live free or die" on their plate. The Court decided their speech rights weren't at issue because it was actually the government that was speaking. This leads people (and states I think) to get the idea that everything on the plate is government speech, but I don't think that's true.
I believe that the part where you put your message constitutes what the courts call a "limited pubic forum." It's not a totally open public forum like streets, sidewalks, and parks where you can say anything. (Although even in an open public forum, obscenity will be prosecuted.)
The state has created this forum on their property (the plate) and opened it up to certain types of expression.
In a limited public forum, some speech could be excluded based on topic (or other factors, e.g. you can't have 40 letters on your plate), but it can never be excluded based on viewpoint. Unless your state has said that politics are not an allowable topic, your plate should be fine. They can't refuse your request just because someone doesn't like your political viewpoint. Call a civil rights lawyer and go for it. I would love to see that.
Thanx for the advice and acknowledging that it's a First Amendment issue.
I was willing to drop $30.00 on the tag butt I'm not willing to spend money on a lawyer.
Thanx for the thoughtful gif.
I know I can win butt I'm not willing to pay courts costs.
Most anti-abortion people don't adopt.
I'm pro choice. Even though I've never had an abortion, I believe in a woman's right to choose.
As you know, I have an adopted son.
Some people should NOT adopt.
Everyone knows Woody Allen married his adopted daughter Soon-Yi Previn butt did you know about his other adopted daughter?
Yep.
Woody is STILL GREAT !
I thought Woody was funny when he pretended to be a pervert.
He wasn't pretending so it's NOT FUNNY anymore.
Hollywood is the real deal !
Unfortunately it's long list.
Pedophile priests are also at the top of the list.
That was good. He had it for three years. Almost sounds like someone turned him in.
I have no problem with either your plate request or the choose life one. The state should not interfere unless a plate is obscene or sexual innuendo or racist ( and no, I don’t consider the use of the CSA flag in historical or veteran context as above to be racist) any race. As a conservative used to seeing those who share my beliefs denied by blue state regimes, it’s kind karma like to see the shoe on the other foot. And yes, I’m pro life with a very few exceptions, mostly the traditional big three. Rape, Incest, not opposed to, LIFE of the mother, support unconditionally.
That you think that that is a real, state issued license plate in hilarious.
What state? Can't read it and Easterns.com is a car dealership in Virginia/Maryland. That is nothing more than a front vanity "license" plate you can get customized at ANY fair across the country as well as on line. Before you spaz, why the picture of the front of the car and not the rear. Think real hard and I'll bet it will come to you....................
How many children have you adopted?
I totally agree.
"limited pubic forum."
LOL. That should be limited public forum
Damn she's hot. But then Jennifer Lawrence could roll in the mud wearing a burlap sack for three hours and still look damn good.
Lucky you caught that before I did... I coulda gotten some mileage out of that one. LOL
DUH!
Cobalt never implied it was a genuine tag.
It's a "fake plate" on the front of a "fake car" probably owned by a "fake reporter" who works for a "fake news" network like CNN.
You might shop it around anyway. Most lawyers won't charge you just to hear your story. Somebody might take it on contingency pending a punitive award for violating your rights. Or they might take it just to be part of something that could be significant in terms of constitutional law. Bottom line is it doesn't hurt to ask.
What about this one, is there an exception ?
Here's a front tag:
Yes, her State is extremely regressive and it's full of fucking idiots
Cobalt lives in Ft. Worth, Texas.
I’ve been a foster parent for four short term and adopted one. I plan on adopting two more and then doing short term until placed with permanent families after I retire as long as I can.
Excellent.
That was the subject of the whole article that you seeded. So, she was off topic then?
States that allow Confederate flag on their license plate. Recently banned in Tx. after a fight all the way to the Supreme Court.
First of all, this is not a "seed". Look at the tag beside my avatar. It says "author" (not "seeder"). I don't require anyone to rigidly adhere to my topic.
You are NOT the hall monitor of this group. And don't bother running to tell your mommy because she's NOT a moderator here either.
Cobalt and I ARE both moderators of this group (SiNNERs and ButtHeads). Butt don't worry, we won't scold YOU for being "off topic".
WHEEL ?!?!
Is that YOU?
A little late for the disclaimer. You said:
You said nothing about Texas.
I make my own bumper stickers.
I made a "Lick Bush in '88" sticker. I just updated the year in 1992, 2000 and 2004.
There is no off topic in BH unless the author requests it. So I can ask if you like wearing yellow sundresses or anchovies on your pizza and it wouldn't be off topic. Because al doesn't think it's off topic.
So you're saying the right leaners have no impulse control. Thank you for acknowledging that. Thank you for acknowledging they're so ridiculously stupid they'd shoot at a car that didn't conform to their way of thinking. Seems like you're saying they mimic their president who has no impulse control, no self respect, and an innate immaturity regarding cognizant thought.
Thanks, Suz! It's great seeing you again. I mean that, girl.
"Off topic" comments are always welcome on my comment threads.
I'm not a "topic nazi".
I believe in freedumb of speech.
Or it could be somebody (in this case the NCDMV) telling you to stop acting like a child in mid tantrum.
haha
Really?
So applying for a personal tag (which was approved at my local DMV) constitutes a "tantrum"?
Or is typing: "That IS a fucking violation of my rights" a tantrum? (Nobody at the DMV saw that NT post)
I guess you don't have any children.
You requested "Impeach" then "MPEACH" that is right in line with the rest of the children throwing a tantrum.
I have 3. The only one that voted "D" isn't pitching a fit like the rest of you all are.
I didn't request "IMPEACH" because I checked online and it wasn't available. "MPEACH" was available so I went to the local DMV and bought it for $30.00. The guy at the DMV checked his computer and it was available so he ordered it for me. He did NOT have a tantrum and neither did I.
I have no idea why you are accusing me of having a tantrum. Is that your idea of an insult? Or do your children have peach fetishes? Or do they kick and scream about license plates?
Please leave Sue out of this.
Yep, I have come across a few of them too.
You have to ask yourself "why do they even ask"?
Boy, you always-wrong people get so sensitive when you're wrong. Why would I sue you? I'll just wait til you're wrong again.
Bwahahaha! I call this meltdown tantrum "Check, Please." Someone cleverer than me noted it looked like the Finnish president was trying to back out of a horrific blind date.
Ha! Pitching a fit. Hilarious!
LOL, That's not a state issued license plate.
You won't have to wait long...
1. The fact you are whining about it, in fact, shows you are having a tantrum.
2. The fact you want it shows you are having a tantrum.
Demons, smemans. Weinstein and Spacey just couldn't keep it in their pants.
Sexual Assault Charge Against Kevin Spacey Is Dropped
Apparently, it is.
Easterns.com has locations in Maryland, DC and Virginia.
It is clearly not a MD or DC tag due the the lack of the MD seal or the red White & Blue of the DC tags
but is most likely a VA tag, which are rather bland, use no space in the middle of the tag numbers/letters
and the tags must be the same front and rear in VA.
If it was because he is innocent of the charges, I am glad. But if pressure or a payoff to the victim or officials resulted in this, I am not. Spacey has been a favorite actor of mine for years and it hurt me to have boycotted him.
Supposedly incriminating evidence was not on the cell phone that was the key piece of evidence.
The accuser plead the 5th on the stand and the charges had to be dropped.
I can't wait for the mandatory conspiracy theories.
That one would probably be acceptable!
(the odds are you might get an individual who can't read words of more than three letters-- if that!
I think many of the NC DMV employees have GED's.
I have an overall problem with NC and driving laws/enforcement.
Within the last few weeks, the ex (btw, that does not mean hate each others guts...she just couldn't take the stress of the GFC and just needed n escape...whatever). About 3 weeks apart she has had 2 vehicles totaled on her from being rear ended by drivers texting while driving. Most folsk in her area think it is legal to text while driving.
I am not a litigious person, but told her I would help her with this.
Wow.
I didn't think illiterate people could text.
Most of them just follow Trump on Twitter.
Just my two cents but I am guessing a trump supporter saw the plate request and decided to nix it. Personally, I would take them to court, but that can get spendy too.
I willingly shelled out $30.00 for the tag butt I'm not going to invest a lot of time and money on it.
I'm going to email my congressman and include this thread just for fun.
I must admit, the term texting was my interpretation of looking up from phone with "only 3 or 4 car lengths" before impact and not enough space to stop.
Mind you the ex was driving 45 - 50 mph both times.
I'm going to be on the front page of newspapers one day. The headline will read, "Texas Youth Stops Freeway Traffic And Pulls Texting Millennial Out Of Auto In Order To Grab Cellphone And Stomp It. All Stopped Traffic Behind Her Disembarks Vehicles To Cheer." The Texas Youth is me.
In cases like that cellphones also make excellent suppositories.
What? Waaaait a minit !?!/!???
You're not arguing with Cobalt are you?
You are a good man Charlie Brown.
Some States have no sense of humor...
That tag is fucking hilarious!
Apparently Colorado (a weed state) has a sense of humor.
Please give me some suggestions for my next license tag.
How about SCREW U, or NO TRUMP (Tell them you're a Bridge player), NUTZ 2 U, GO AWAY,
I CANT C, HARD ON, I POTUS, JUST TRY, WHY NOT, BIG DIK, FOOLD U, OBI WAN, B SMART,
GENIUS, WHO R U
My neighbor, in NC, has "SHAPPENS"
That's something to ponder ...
I did see a great bumper sticker recently. "Elect a clown, expect a circus."
Was the dogma also a bitch?
Ooops. My bad. This is a repeat of my 1.1.17 since I put it in the wrong spot:
Then I suggest "HCAEPMI." The bad part about it, most of the remaining Traitor-In-Chief supporters won't get it. The supporters that thought he'd bring change have jumped ship. The only two factions of most of the remaining supporters are those who just "like to see demmies cry, so fuck the country" and thinly veiled racists. Neither faction is made up of deep thinkers, so again ... they just won't get it. Of course, if you park on the opposite side of the parking lane across from a guy with a confederate flag plate, he'll have to look in his mirror to back up.
THE JIZZ
JIZZMAN
WEHNGLO
For the sake of clarity...
WE-HNG-LO
DLETE45
Nice.
I suggested that. A person could argue that he's a Bridge player.
Are lower case letters allowed on plates?
If you think about it, M, A, and H are all the same backwards or forwards, (viewed in a mirror for example they're still the same letters). A lower case q could look like a p to a mirror. You see where I'm going.
"HCAEPMI" Even without the lower case would clearly come across as "IMPEACH" when viewed in a mirror.
that's forward thinking
I guess MAGA is out or 4 MORE, BITE ME, LOK HIM UP, TDS STRONG...
Here's a portion of an Op/Ed on this very subject.
Read entire article
Another article on point and in connection with the Kotler story .
I think cobaltblue's suggestion is clever, although at this point I would probably go with VMD2UF.
LMAO !!!
I probably could have gotten my tag in a progressive state.
I love my state..
Here's a good tag.
I saw one once...2TH DR. The guy is a dentist.
For the trump lovers...
It gets my vote for most creative.
Here's a good tag for Oscar Meyer:
Is the owner's first name Anthony by any chance?
This guy is slightly apathetic:
used to have a 35' house boat with three buddies. We moored it in the Delaware River just North of Philly.
We named it Cirrhosis of the River !
LMFAO!
It looks like it's smiling.
I used to ride my bike at one of the marinas in SF. There was this really nice boat named PUS SEA GAL ORE. I must have stopped a dozen times trying to figure out the name, until the day I pronounced it out loud. Then I totally cracked up. The two guys on the boat laughed at yelled "You finally got it!" I shot back with "I bet I get it more than you do."
Omigawd, that's magic!!!
His favorite movie was Goldfinger.
These guys couldn't get the tags they wanted:
This photo was just taken in Portland this past Saturday. License plate is ND issue. Deliberate or just bad luck?
WTF?
This article is 3 months old and now Satan parks his car here.
AGAIN ?
Sorry, is it your tag?
You forgot this is a repeat of what Pete said in the Bar a few months ago , didn't you ?
I know we were all Drunk back then....but …… I'm sure you remembered.....remembered, remembered, remembered..... 'member …..mmmm....berrrrr…...ddddd ?
Pete who? Which Bar?
I don't drink in public, but I am old enough to have forgotten more than I can remember, lol.
Peace be with you and yours this Christmas IIM.
Merry CHRISTmas, whichever side I'm really talking to....."SPLIT" !
Maybe he's taking about Trump's Barr.