Justice Roberts confronts leftist vitriol
As the SCOTUS considers a major abortion case ( June Medical Services v. Russo) this past Wednesday morning, Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer took to the stage to address a mob of angitated pro-abortion activists. He said, to the shock of all decent Americans: “I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions."
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/03/04/chief-justice-roberts-rebukes-schumer-for-threatening-statements-against-gorsuch-kavanaugh.html
Imagine threatening or trying to intimidate the Supreme Court?
Do progressives know any bounds of civility?
At least Justice Roberts stood tall yesterday! In what the media calls "a rare rebuke", Roberts said "Justices know that criticism comes with the territory, but threatening statements of this sort from the highest levels of government are not only inappropriate, they are dangerous, all Members of the Court will continue to do their job, without fear or favor, from whatever quarter."
Make no mistake, it was a careless & dangerous thing for Schumer to do, but he is after all pandering to a very vile segment of society. Justin Goodman, a spokesman for Schumer, tried to walk it all back calling it a kind of "misinterpretation" of what Schumer said. There is no misinterpretation. Schumer was threatening the Supreme Court and had named two Justices specifically. What was more frightening was that one could hear the wild applause from the crowd!
We all have to follow Justice Roberts example. If we don't confront and put an end to these radical attempts to control this nation we will lose our freedom and our way of life.
I think it's time for the US Senate to censure Chuck Schumer.
" A majority, held in restraint by constitutional checks and limitations and always changing easily with deliberate changes of popular opinions and sentiments, is the only true sovereign of a free people. Whoever rejects it does of necessity fly to anarchy or despotism. Unanimity is impossible; the rule of a minority, as a permanent arrangement, is wholly inadmissible; so that, rejecting the majority principle, anarchy or despotism in some form is all that is left.".....Abraham Lincoln
Message to Congress in Special Session July 4, 1861
The anti-gun left continues to celebrate their violent inclinations.
Like the democrat politician in Colorado liking the idea of spreading corona virus to her political opposition at MAGA rallies
There is no law that will end abortion. There are only potential laws that will make it unsafe again.
We are talking about threatening Justices on the Supreme Court. Where is the outrage?
On every news show democrats should be asked if they would condemn it!
You are "outraged" about Democrats every day. Without exception.
I'd like to see the answer to his question John - Where is your outrage over a Congress person threatening a member of the Supreme Court? Or ANY court for that matter? Is it OK with you????
Let's not make it personal and lets not try and derail the conversation. If you don't want to defend or denounce Schumer's comments you can go elsewhere.
Trump and the far, far right wing idiotic fascists enrage me on a daily basis.
So old Chuckie was just babbling like the idiot he is?
Cool.
Again, watch the people who freak out about Trump give this a pass...
Schumer is litterally threatening justicies of the Supreme Court. Liberals freak out when Trump so much as criticizes a Court and now the Democratic minority leader threatens two justices and the reponse is crickets.
It's just goes to show that the "outrage" about Trump is almost completeley a sham from the left. There's no principle behind it.
total nonsense
Wally, as we all know, you won't get an answer to that question from John.
Sure John
Liberals response to A democratic senator actually threatening Supreme Court justices is crickets..
... if trump said the exact same thing about Ginsburg and sotomayor liberals would be brimming over with “outrage.” Liberals only care about something if it can be used to abuse trump.
According to ….. "Certain Persons" ...… those would be "Stupid Questions" !
Schumer office says he was referring to defeating conservative senators who voted to confirm Gorsuch and Kavanaugh at the ballot box.
“I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price,” Schumer said to a crowd of abortion-rights advocates. “You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.”
Where John - just WHERE in Schumer's statement is he referring to defeating conservative senators?? Where are their names? What states are they from? What committee's are they on?
How does "I want to tell you, GORSUCH" and "I want to tell you, KAVANAUGH" even MENTION conservative senators? How does "You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price" - "YOU have" and "YOU will" - not even close to referring to defeating any/all senators?
"YOU won't know what hit you" is a reference to which senator that the Dems/Libs want to eliminate???
And you have the audacity to say others are blind?????
Yep, clearly a threat delivered directly at Kavanaugh and Gorsuch.
Schumers mealy mouthed excuses for why he actually did it are a pathetically sad attempt to cover his tracks.
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Gee, I wonder about the sheer gullibility of any idiot stupid enough to believe THAT "explanation".
If that were the case, as claimed, it was POINTLESS to point out members of SCOTUS at all.
Deflecting so you do not have to answer the question JR? All you needed to do was say yes or no and you could/would not do it. That's okay because it was pretty much expected anyway.
I did answer the question. Schumer's office says he was misunderstood.
People can believe him or not as they wish.
The question you still have failed to answer is - DO YOU SUPPORT SCHUMER'S STATEMENTS?????? YES or NO?????
I don't care what his "orifice" says. As you can see, they don't have the foggiest idea of how to cover his comment so they are just "grabbing", from their nether regions", anything that sounds . . . . .
I want to know - do YOU support Schumer's statements?
Wasn't the question whether you supported Schumer's statement?
Not one thing to do with any "explanations" by Team Schumer. We understood his English quite well. we know what he said and who he directed his statement to.
People believing any further 'explanation" by him are simply gullible fools.
No, you fell back to what his office said, not what Schumer himself said. Big difference JR! The question was did you support Schumer's actual statement coming out of his mouth, not what his office said they think he said.
Too true!!
LOL!
Trump and his idiocy has brought it all on himself.
Rational folk don't think like this insane asshole.
It's called TDS and it is a very chronic problem for some on the left.
Trump gets on twitter and calls people names. Schumer gets on stage and threatens SCOTUS.
This is what our politics have devolved into. None of this should be acceptable but due to tribal politics and party politics this is what we have.
"More & more we are seeing Democrats try to blackmail SCOTUS into embracing their extreme positions. This latest example by the Democratic Leader was an unambiguous threat & the Senate should censure him for it"...Sen Ted Cruz
Let's go Ted - write it up!
Protecting abortion rights is not an "extremist" position.
Threatening Supreme Court Justices is! It's hard to avoid it, isn't it?
Keep on deflecting John. When are you going to answer the questions of #2.1 - #2.1.2. - #3.1.1??? Or is this going to be your usual - hit and run?
I dont have to explain Schumer's statements, he does, and evidently he has.
Let me help:
"I'm not sure where to start. There is nothing to call this except a threat, and there is absolutely no question to whom, to whom it was directed. ...The minority leader of the United States threatened two associate justices of the U.S. Supreme Court by name, period. There's no other way to interpret that," McConnell said from the Senate floor.
You don't need to explain his statements. You need to answer the questions asked of you - Do YOU support his remarks??? Yes or no?
Only gullible idiots accept any "explanation" from Team Schumer.
He cannot do it because to answer that he does not support the comment puts him outside the "I hate Trump/conservatives" box that he has put himself into. He would then have to justify himself, thus it is much easier to just deflect.
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Ed, anytime you want to debate issues or whether Trump is fit to serve in the presidency, let me know.
There you go deflecting again John. The subject is about Schumer, not Trump. At least try to stay on topic.
I truly believe that is impossible.
Is there any subject under the sun that Trump Haters can't make into an anti-Trump tirade?
But Schumer gets a free pass from you any time right?
Now, look at what you've done to John.
LOL. Give it up. There is no way he will answer the question, because he CAN"T make that admission. The technique being used is "Twist, then run and hide".
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You are a Trump supporter as well. You have had chance after chance to walk that shit back, and you never have. Your opinion about right and wrong has no more worth than the other Trumpsters does.
I answered the question. Schumer elaborated on his statement from yesterday. If you dont like it take it up with him. Since he has re-explained what he meant it is not for me to say whether his original statement was right or wrong, because he says it is not what he meant.
How many times has Trump "apologized"?
No, you did not. You took it on a date and danced all around it, but you never answered what was asked--DO YOU SUPPORT HIS STATEMENT?
doesn't have one thing to do with Schumer walking it back and pretending he meant something else.
TWIST, RUN AND HIDE, TWIST, RUN AND HIDE. Unless we are in lockstep with your hatred of Trump you call us Trumpsters, and everyone on this site knows what you are doing.. Your comments are oozing with obsessive mental illness.
Buzz, one thing I dont do is run and hide. I answered the so called "question".
What you want me to do is answer the question as framed by a bunch of Trumpsters.
Since that is not apparent in the words, it is up to Schumer to say what he meant. He re-explained what he meant. If you dont want to accept that, fine. Dont tell other people what to do.
As far as your overwrought attack on me goes, there are tens of millions of Americans, or more, who think of Trump the same way I do. The difference is I post on a forum like this and many of them do not. And of course there are others on this forum who basically have the same viewpoint about him that I do.
The man is completely unfit for office. If he was an honorable person he would resign today. Since he has no honor whatsoever we have to kick him out.
People who support Trump should be ashamed of themselves.
Hey Captain Double Standard. Does that apply when Mr. Trump does it or, is it another one way street?
Okay, John. I'm short of time this morning and don't have time to dig back for your answer. So since you answered the question already, this should be easy for you. It's a simple yes or no answer. Won't take you five seconds and you never run from answering questions so this should be right in your wheelhouse.
Thanks buddy, i know you'll answer this one directly since we are NT pals and all.
Schumer is speaking on the floor right now, and telling his "Cast of nutty Characters", how the Republican's are the ones "Using the Courts" to make law.
Too Funny !
He is concerned....maybe because the case of June Medical Services v. Russo cannot take down Roe, but it could nullify it!
It's one thing to be "concerned" , it's another to "Threaten" Justices, then do a "Non-Apology" speech on the floor, by blaming Republicans for what he said.
Schumer has never - NEVER - taken responsibility for anything that comes out of his mouth, even when it's a flat-out, bald-faced lie.
Yup, and it's clear to everyone including leftist law professor Lawrence Tribe who just came in with:
"These remarks by @SenSchumer were inexcusable. Chief Justice Roberts was right to call him on his comments. I hope the Senator, whom I’ve long admired and consider a friend, apologizes and takes back his implicit threat. It’s beneath him and his office."
https://www. washingtonpost.com/politics/schum er-vows-kavanaugh-gorsuch-will-pay-the-price-for-vote-on-abortion-rights-case/2020/03/04/ce4ae2b4-5e5a-11ea-9055-5fa12981bbbf_story.html …
For sure !
He is good at taking responsibility for the new trade deals Trump put in place (They made it better ) and the bigger bucks for Virus scanning though (Instead of just saying they would give Trump more than he requested).
The only reason we are hearing about this episode is because John Roberts scolded Chuck Schumer. Schumer's seditious language has become the new normal in modern politics and is no longer newsworthy by itself. Unfortunately, Schumer will claim a victory because he got a rise out of John Roberts.
The distinction between Chuck Schumer and Donald Trump is only a shade of grey. While Trump has been accused of normalizing these types of behaviors, the reality is that politicians have used the political tactic of seditious language for quite a few decades.
Schumer tripled down on the violence Maxine Waters encourages.
Now you are suggesting that Schumer is advocating violence against Supreme Court justices? That is ludicrous.
Just read Schumer's comments for what they actually say, not what you wish they did.
- are you being serious John?????
“I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price,” Schumer said to a crowd of abortion-rights advocates. “You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.”
Where John - just WHERE in Schumer's statement is he referring to defeating conservative senators?? Where are their names? What states are they from? What committee's are they on?
As a very good friend from Missouri would say - SHOW ME!!!!! How are those statements NOT advocating violence?????
Did you read his statement? Is English your first language?
LMMFAO
I'm not "suggesting" anything, John.
Schumer's statements are direct threats to the safety of two Supreme Court justices.
What I do suggest is that you stop trying to defend Schumer.
PERIOD.
Nonsense.
Fact.
Even if everyone doesn't like it, and some pretend he didn't say what he said.
Of course, gullible idiots would be willing to buy his swill of an "explanation".
"I would call on Schumer to apologize, but we all know he has no shame. So tomorrow I will introduce a motion to censure Schumer for his pathetic attempt at intimidation of the SCOTUS" .. ...Senator Josh Hawley
Proof positive that there are none so blind as those who will not see.
Don't bother with this, John, let them continue the circle jerk. Clearly they don't care about the judges and victims Trump's rhetoric endangered. These conversations don't deserve the oxygen.
And yet here you are...........................
All of these people trying to badger me support Trump. Thus their opinions about right and wrong are meaningless.
And yet, here you both are.
Isn't there 2 or 3 "I Hate Trump" articles that you can vent on?
THIS article is about what Chucky Schumer said.
Nary a soul would "badger' you had you simply answered one very simple question:
Do you support Schumer's comments regarding the two SCOTUS members?
"The fear is not that the justices will yield to such threats. The Framers anticipated politicians like Schumer who would try to intimidate or harass members of the Court. Life tenure is the protection crafted to insulate members of the judiciary. No, the danger is how Schumer’s words further degrade the view of the rule of law and the court system as a whole.
Schumer needs to apologize without delay or reservation.".....Jonathan Turley
Maybe another impeachment fiasco?
I wouldn't put anything past the idiot Democrats in the House.
How about the whopper Schumer just told?
“I shouldn't have used the words I did but in no way was I making a threat. I never, never would do such a thing and Leader McConnell knows that."....Chuck Schumer moments ago.
In the words of Judge Milian:
"I wouldn't trust him if his tongue came notarized."
Anyone who saw or heard what Schumer said knows he is lying through his teeth when he started "explaining".
You mean between enacting bogus impeachment, lying about what Trump has accomplished, threatening Supreme Court Justices and hoping for economic and/or health problems - there isn't much you would past them? I think just about any objective observer would have to agree!
They have proven themselves adept at lies and underhanded tricks.
A real acceptance of how far he went is beyond his character limitations. He is what he is and he represents the worst of our society.
Here's one example of what he represents ...
It's what separates the two political parties. Republicans believe in freedom, enterprise and Conservative values, while democrats function to achieve power & influence for special interest groups like the abortion activists.
You notice Schumer never apologized either. Just stated he should not have said it.
Of course he wouldn't take responsibility for what he said.
Typical Schumer nonsense.
I am a little surprised he didn't start blubbering.
I'm being serious. I'll give Chuck the benefit of the doubt, and assume he is not talking about payback taking the form of physical assault. What else could the dems do to a justice? Impeach.
Scary really. The left has done a fantastic job, over the past few decades, of ravel rousing, and the party leaders have no qualms with feeding it. The fact that Schumer can make a plain and unambiguous threat, and blankly claim it was not a threat, tells us all we need to know. How dare anyone accuse him of saying hat he said, and meaning it to boot.
Trump has done more rabble rousing than anyone - and his supporters constantly defend it.
Partisan bullshit.
What Chuck said was completely out of line - but the same people who are slamming him for it have no problems with all the crap Trump has said and the violence he has incited. Apparently they don't actually give a shit about common decency and violence, they just like to get outraged at liberals while giving the right a free pass.
Kat - stick to the subject - and Trump ain't it.
As stated before, this is about Schumer's boneheaded comments and not about Trump. Trying to throw Trump into the mix should be considered off topic.
I don't see where it is possible for the Trump Haters to ever stick to a topic--they make everything about Trump--even when it isn't.
SOSDD
I won't give him the benefit of the doubt because he never apologized and tried to spin some "new" meaning into his words.
We all saw or heard them.
I can see why having people's hypocrisy pointed out would upset them.
I would agree that some of the stuff Trump has said, or tweeted, has made me wince. But, the issue is Schumer's clear threat, followed by his clearly chicken shit excuse.
I just noticed the misspelling of mine...rabble.
My comment was in response to Chuck's BS
Bullshit Chuck. You specifically made a threat. That's what is scary. He might as well be saying "l shouldn't have made the molotov cocktail, or lit it, or thrown it though the window, but in no way was I attempting to burn the place down. I would never do such a thing and everyone knows that."
Deflection, and still off topic.
No worries.
And yes, Chuck's excuse is total BS. There is no excuse for what he said.
The only hypocrisy is that which is coming from those who are deflecting and/or making excuses for Schumer's despicable threats.
As I said above, I'm hoping for censure.
Yeah, that and a couple bucks will get you an overpriced cup of frou-frou coffee
It would be well-deserved.
Same here.
You want to condemn Chuck for his poor choice of words (and I agree that they were a poor choice), but how about what spurns this on. Even in this article, there is a poor choice of words:
People who support Roe v Wade, are not pro-abortion, they are pro-choice. There is a huge difference. That is a poor choice of words, too. Maybe if the hyperbole stopped we would all be much better off.
I find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone can defend a person for threatening a judge, or even attempting to reinterpret such a clear meaning of the words used.
What a coincidence it is that I am presently rereading John Grisham's novel The Pellican Brief wherein 2 SCOTUS judges are assassinated.
Well, I don't think he was saying that, but I do feel that what he said was unbefitting a senator and Justice Roberts was right in the rebuke.
That being said, I who am pro-choice am really sick and tired of being called pro-abortion. Even my twin daughters would tell you, that when we discussed this topic, I always told them that they had choices.
I agree. No one is pro-abortion. The fight is entirely about choice. Pro-abortion is a term that needs to go away. NT might be a good place to start.
As for Chuck Schumer, his words were not meant to be anything other than pissed pappy trash talk. To interpret his words as anything else is ridiculous. However, I do think that his use of individual names was inappropriate. That is a Trump tactic and Chuck Schumer should know better and hold himself to a higher standard.
Huh?
So lets compare and contrast Perrie. I know i can get an honest answer from you on this question. Others here ..... not so much.
If this had been say, Mitch McConnell attacking Justices RBG and Sotomayor like Schumer did, do you think the response would have been better or worse? I say it would have been much worse. The left would be asking for MM's head on a pike right now if that had happened. Probably much more aggressively than what the right is doing right now towards Schumer.
The hypocrisy at play in DC is absolutely out of control and needs to be reigned in. This isn't Schumers or McConnells fault. Its the fault of the people who keep electing partisan hacks like that.
Turn up your hearing aid ...
Although I appreciate the advice, my hearing aid did not come equipped with a crappy grammar translator.
I reserve my right under the Constitution to choose my own words. To me it's pro-abortion despite what progressives want to call it.
As for the mob and Schumer, I calls 'em as I sees 'em.
Wrong, pro choice - leaving the choice to the woman on what she does with an unplanned pregnancy regardless of her choice.
His words are incorrect, he may believe them but that is not what pro choicers are, he's just using a sweeping generalization of pro choice people.
You know what? You are completely right. Thank you for re-enforcing my right to choose my own words, as well. [[deleted]]
Wait for it... Wait for it...
Are you inferring Vic needs a Manzier?
I hope not because that would be body shaming and therefore a COC violation.
There's an image that will be stuck in my head for...ever.
Titty baby :
Someone who whines and complains about stuff. Often sounding like a child.
On an unrelated side note, while researching the exact meaning of 'titty baby', I found out that I am suffering a 'titastrophy'. Meaning: a catastrophe that happens to ass and breasts as it becomes saggy. so unpleasant to look at. a real turn off.
C'mon Wally - are you serious???
Birth and keep
Birth and give up for adoption
Abortion
Those are the 3 choices women have...it's up to the individual woman to decide which choice is best for her.
Whatever she chooses pro choice people have no problem with
Whereas anti choicers demand the right to TELL women what they should do with an unplanned pregnancy.
So Chucky uses the excuse that he is a New Yorker and that should be enough of an excuse to say what he said.....and liberals will fall over themselves to accept it, but Trump, also a New Yorker, who has never said or tweeted any threats, gets liberal hatred for weeks for almost everything he tweets.
Liberal hypocrisy is simply insane in the eyes of the sane.
I don't think for a moment that Chuck intended to threaten anybody. I think he got caught up in the moment. Still, his words were inappropriate and could be interpreted as a threat. He should apologize to the justices and the court. He should also condemn the idea of threatening a justice.
Agreed. He should have had the sense to realize who he was speaking to and gauge his words with caution and carefully.
without a doubt.
"Every time Democrats try to threaten sitting justices, we are reminded exactly why the Framers gave them life tenure and salary protection. Republicans are absolutely and unshakably committed to the core constitutional principle of an independent federal judiciary."