Biden's Stutter Mocked By Republicans
Are Americans as resentful as Canadians were when Jean Chretien's facial disfigurement caused by Bell's Palsy was criticized during an election, or do they agree with mocking a disability?
From Bloomberg News:
Biden’s Stutter Mocked on Trump Campaign Call
A Republican congressman mocked Biden’s childhood stutter on a Trump campaign call Tuesday.
In a call to highlight Biden’s past comments on fracking, Representative Mike Kelly imitated a stutter as he argued that Biden “gets himself caught up” when talking about the natural gas extraction method.
“Look he’s been against fracking since the beginning of this primary season. He’s pledged that he would eliminate, he kind of stumbles: ‘I ... I ... I’ll ... I’ll ... I’ll ... we’ll ... we’ll ... we’ll ... we’ll ... we’ll ... w-we’ll work it out, we’ll work it out,’” Kelly said.
Biden says he would ban new oil and gas permits on public land but would not ban fracking. But in a bid to win Pennsylvania voters, Trump has seized on Biden’s verbal missteps during the campaign to argue that he would ban fracking outright.
Trump campaign surrogate Lara Trump and Arizona Governor Doug Ducey have also mocked the way Biden speaks at campaign events, although both denied they were talking about his stutter. -- Mario Parker
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-stutter-mocked-on-trump-campaign-call-campaign-update/ar-BB1aqYAz
During the 1993 federal election in Canada the Conservative Party published a TV ad that showed a photo of Jean Chretien's face (Chretien was leader of the opposing Liberal Party in that election), and implied that the voters could not trust a man who looked like that.
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During the 1993 Canadian federal election, the Progressive Conservative Party produced a televised attack ad against Jean Chrétien , the Liberal leader. The ad (sometimes referred to as the "face ad ") was perceived by many as a focus on Chrétien's facial deformity, caused by Bell's palsy .
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During the 1993 Canadian elections, the Progressive Conservative Party produced an attack ad
(now known as the "face ad"), showing unflattering still close-ups of Liberal leader Jean Chrétien's face while questioning whether he is fit for the position of Prime Minister. Since Chrétien has Bell's palsy, which causes facial deformity, the ad was easy to interpret as mocking his condition. Wikipedia has an article about the controversy caused by the ad , which was met with enormous backlash, contributing to a landslide victory for the Liberals and a crushing defeat for the Tories.
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The result? The Canadian voters were so angered by that reference to Chretien's disability that they gave his LIberal party a LANDSLIDE victory and almost totally wiped out the Conservative (Tory) party.
Are Americans as decent as the Canadian people were?
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I know what Bell's palsy is all about. When I was in my late teens I suffered from it, half my face was frozen, but fortunately I did not have a serious case of it and it soon was cured. Chretien's case was more serious, and he suffered a permanent freezing of half of his face.
I have Bell's palsy and at this moment, I am having an episode due to stress.
I empathize with your pain.
They have no shame.
They learned it from the asswipe in the oval office
Sadly, I doubt that they care about mocking a person's disabilities.
Of course, Trump has the biggest disability. He has no brain.
Biden doesn't have a stutter. He had one as a kid.
As Dan McLaughlin has appointed out, the "stutter defense" is entirely new. "Nobody had to make this argument for Biden when he ran for the Senate in 1972, or when he ran for president in 1988 and 2008, or when he chaired the Clarence Thomas–Anita Hill hearings in 1990, or when he ran for vice president and debated Sarah Palin in 2008 and Paul Ryan in 2012. The Biden we saw throughout those years was a gaffe machine, in part for having a reputation for running his mouth far faster than his brain could keep up with. His penchant for never-ending opening statements at Senate hearings was legendary. He prevailed over Ryan in debate entirely by the force of his verbal ability to shout over Ryan’s answers, cutting him off whenever he called Biden out on anything. In the 2020 debates, Biden repeatedly cut off his own answers to comply with time limits and avoid interruptions. Biden was always hard to fact-check because of his ability to generate newly-minted fabrications on the fly at high velocity, many of which were new to the listener, such as this notorious fusillade of inventions about his intellect and academic attainments:"
Biden can no longer speak without stumbling over words, that's what being mocked. It's not a stutter, because he hasn't had one since he entered public life, which any honest person the least bit familiar with his career knows.
Here's Biden in 2008: "The reason I don't stutter anymore is I went to a [high] school that had, twice a week, public-speaking class everyone had to take,"
So you are DEFENDING your compatriots. Well, that's expected.
I'm defending reality. (Deleted), ask Joe Biden himself. He hasn't had a stutter for 60 years.
It speaks volumes that his supporters have to invent a handicap to explain his inability to speak articulately and honestly.
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As a Senator he had no stress. He rode AMTRAK with abandon.
In 2008 Biden didn't have a care in the world. He was the VP, the majority of the stress was on Obama, who also stumbled famously now
& then during his run for POTUS.
After you yourself successfully win a Presidential primary and deal with the inherent dysphemia and the underlying stress of running a
Presidential campaign against an incumbent,
then, and only then will I ever consider your opinion to be sincere.
This is just more conjecture and innuendo ... borrowed from a partisan mouth pieces like Dan McLaughlin to put down a candidate
for the sake of it.
Oh. It's winning that causes a stutter to reappear after 60 years. Running a Presidential campaign and being laughed off the national spotlight in 1998 for lying about his entire life story wasn't stressful. Nor was losing a wife and child tragically, or chairing one of the most contentious Senate hearings in history and seeing his side lose. The real stress is winning a primary and sitting in your basement for six months. That was too much stress for him to handle.
Sure. That's it. It's not that he's exhibiting the natural cognitive decline of a 78 year old man whose had severe health problems, it's the stress of finally winning a primary that somehow caused a stutter (which isn't a stutter) to reappear after 60 years. Would you like to buy a bridge in Brooklyn while you are here?
Actually Sean, he never stopped speaking the way he does now. You should go back and watch him reading his speech for the "Biden Rule", and he speaks the same way.
btw.. since you are being so critical, maybe you should watch Trump when he was in his 30's. He could actually use big words and I don't mean "huge" and "tremendous", which he is very fond of now.
No, he doesn't sound anything like he did in even in 2012. Watch that clip above and if you think Biden still talks that rapidly and forcefully, there's really nothing I can say. The proof is right there.
Seriously, do you think Biden hasn't declined mentally since he was in his 40s? Is he immune to aging?
What does Trump have to do with this? Can't you defend Biden on his own?
That should be1988. It was a typo, not a mistaken assumption that there is no way someone who ran for President in 1988 against the likes of the elder George Bush, Alexander Haig, Michael Dukakis and Paul Simon could possibly be running for President in 2020.
He made his point with vigor, and yet he got hung up multiple times on words that were right in front of his face, in a speech he practiced before giving.
My point is that both of them have the regular type of decline that comes with age, yet you only see Biden's.
What are you talking about? This seed has nothing to do with Trump. Biden's cheerleader's have an invented a handicap Biden has said he hasn't had for 60 years to explain away his inability to speak articulately. That's the issue.
When Trump's defenders claim his issues stem from some conveniently appearing handicap, you can bring that up.
Biden still has the disability, it just doesn't impact his life like it did when he was a child. And funny, I watched him during the debates, which were totally unpracticed and he did fine. So I am not sure what you are talking about when you say he has an "inability to speak articulately."
Why do you exaggerate and repeat hateful stories so much? Just your opinion?
very disappointing for someone who lords himself over the rest of us as the depository of all "knowledge".
Oh ok, accepted.
That was a typo too, I meant suppository .
He makes more mistakes without any hint at all of brain freeze or stuttering, stammering etc.
No and neither is Trump.
and slipping in and out of subjects in one breath to try to confuse people of what he is referring to, or avoid having to address the real subject so as not to expose himself or about himself he does not want others to know. Biden may stutter, but, at least he stays on topic.
That’s not going after a stutter. Biden speaks normally. What Kelly is doing is imitating someone who is trying to fudge the truth. This story is phony outrage over something that wasn’t even happening.
So says Tacos1. Somehow I don't think everyone agrees with you, including me. I truly hope Americans will react like Canadians did.
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that's a pathetic excuse.
Did you excuse Trump too, when he mocked the disabled reporter?
But you can’t explain how. Or maybe you didn’t understand what I wrote.
Some people live to be outraged. I think it gives them self esteem to judge sin in others. And even when it isn’t really there to be judged, they decide it is, so they can pat themselves on the back for being better than someone else.
Sometimes a person is being mocked for being stupid or dishonest and not because of any disability. But the kind of person I just described will only see the absolute worst scenario. They are unwilling to even consider an alternative.
So I can tell you not only as an educator but also as someone with a disability (dyslexia), you can not cure stuttering. it's always there in the background noise of your brain. You can only learn skills to manage it.
Does it matter at all that Biden himself says it’s not a problem he has anymore? I feel like people are dismissing that just so they can be angry for no reason.
Tacos, he meant that for the most part, he has it managed. For many stutters, it never goes away. I had a boyfriend in High school and later on, we got back together in our late 20's and he never stopped stuttering.
I have a life time friend that mastered stuttering in public speaking and taught English to foreigners at
The Community College of Philadelphia for almost 30 years to people who needed to learn good English to
pass and get their US citizenship.
And in of all the years I have known him, he stills stutters in almost every personal conversation in English.
Never in class and never in Italian; he moved to a winery in Italy after retirement.
Strange but true.
I'm old and PCS'd many times with the family, met lot's of interesting characters...
I thought we agreed not to talk about personal issues?
But we aren't talking about many people. We are talking specifically about Joe Biden, and he is just not known as someone who stutters. We can't point to a litany of video of him stuttering. So, there's no reason to think this guy Kelly had stuttering anywhere in his mind when he was talking about Biden.
As I expected, not a video of Biden stuttering. Instead, here is a video of Biden saying it's not a thing he does anymore. Nevertheless, people seeking to be outraged will insist that he stutters and that this guy Kelly could have only been mocking that specific thing. Why? Because it makes them feel superior.
Buzz already told you he was in @9.2. That's what the words "I am angry" mean.
Apparently it's Opposite Day at your house. This seed is not about Trump or his supporters being outraged about anything.
Angry does not equal outraged, sorry.
Who asked for a video? If Joe hasn't been stammering or struggling with certain words, then there's no issue is there?
tempest in a teapot, just one butt hurt side bitching about any tiny thing they can accuse the other butt hurt side of.
Don't let go of that bone while you deny you are involved or favor either side, lol.
It's amusing.
Oh, OK.
Oh, someone needs to ask? You supplied one without being asked. Now you have a problem with it when someone else does it? Seems hypocritical.
I agree. It also means the guy who was mocking him probably wasn't thinking about Joe being a stutterer and probably wasn't trying to mock a disability. That's the point.
Just so you know, I don't know what it is you are trying to communicate with that metaphor. Is that your way of mocking someone for having a different opinion on the topic?
A supporter? I wouldn't go that far. I agree with some goals and policies he has, but that's true of every president. I don't think he's a very adept politician and I don't generally like him much as a person. I'm not sure what that has to do with this seed, though, because Trump isn't in the story.
which implies that there are many lesser levels of anger below extremely strong reaction
does it not?
yeah you lost me....
After 6 months of people laughing at Joe and talking about stuttering, gaffes and dementia you actually believe House Rep Kelly hasn't heard of it?
Fucking remarkable, the lengths you will bend over backwards and do back flips to make Trump, his cabinet choices all seem to be perfectly reasonable.
Yes, mocking your inability to see things that others see as a 1000% defense of everything Trump while claiming not to be a Trump supporter.
Is this science? Do you imagine this is important to anyone?
I'm sorry, Trump and his cabinet appear where in this story? Oh yeah, nowhere. What's remarkable is how many people feel the need to make every story about Trump.
But isn't he the Leader of the Free World, the most important person in the USA, which is the most powerful country in the world, the lord and saviour of almost half the people in the USA? So important, and so SELF-IMPORTANT, that even now he can say (while Covid-19 numbers are still increasing rapidly in the USA) "We are rounding the curve" . He's right Take a look at it.
Seems off-topic, but you know, whatever makes you happy.
My group, my seed/article, my comment, my call. It was a reply to your comment that mentioned Trump.
Like I said, whatever makes you happy. I too, was responding to someone else who brought Trump up, and my only comment about it was to point out that he doesn't appear in the article.
Joe Biden's speech impediment is not a secret.
Sarah Huckaby Sanders mocked him in a tweet after last December's debate.
Sanders wrote in a since-deleted tweet , “I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I hhhave absolutely no idea what Biden is talking about,”
She apologized, but her words were hollow. source
In addition, you might find this uplifting.
When it comes to speech issues, Trump holds the record on that. Not only is his vocabulary very limited, he even makes up his own words which most people can't understand. He also switches topics during a speech that confuses people and slurs his words.
So Trump nor any of his oh so speech experts (who can't speak better than Trump) have any room to talk about Biden's stuttering.
Nor could he be bothered into giving the remotest of shits about a challenged child like Braden Harrington.
I would happily take stuttering over endless lies in a heartbeat.
You implying that someone else is a dumb ass is...interesting...to say the least.
The Trump supporters have struggled for six months to land something "disqualifying" on Biden. First it was he was too mentally confused, when that went nowhere because Biden was seen time after time acting perfectly normal they moved on to a claim that he and Kamala Harris were communists or "socialists" . That one was even more laughable and went nowhere also. Then we heard the Hunter Biden story , how Joe supposedly masterminded a cabal doing business with "communist" China. Now we are back to the mental confusion. At least it's almost election day so we dont have to watch this flailing too much longer.
Since I'm not an American, the candidate who gets elected may not be as important for me as it is for Americans, but since whoever the POTUS is has an effect on the rest of the world, and I am a resident in this world, I do have some reason for concern. Decisions made in the USA have an effect on both the country of my citizenship and the country where I presently live, and, with respect to Trump being POTUS, that has been a negative effect in both cases, I would prefer that he not continue in his present employment. I know little about Biden, and I don't consider him to be particularly dynamic or even charismatic, and I have some concerns about a party in particular that shelters Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, the only reason I think it is of ultimate importance that Biden be elected POTUS is because he is the only game in town to get rid of Trump. As well, since I have liberal views about abortion, healthcare, capital punishment, climate change and gun controls I would prefer that all three levels of government be controlled by Democrats. In that regard, if I see that the newest member of the SCOTUS swings the court in favour her cult beliefs I would support stacking the court as well, and such a government would have the legal and constitutional ability so to do. As for cult beliefs, I suppose a lot of people these days have never seen the movies Helter Skelter and Ticket to Heaven, to get an idea of how a cult controls the minds of its adherents, and how automatically they and their members deny that it does.
It is amusing that those warning about Democrats stacking the courts
have done so for the last three years and our eminently qualified court stacker McConnell has actually pushed through lawyers
rated "Not Qualified" by the ABA to lifetime Federal Judgeship appointments.
You could say, 'Only in the States', lol, if it wasn't so sad and fascist like.
I am proud of Canada's judicial system, where judges are appointed rather than elected, and before considered to be acceptable, are vetted by the Canadian Bar Association. I'm not so happy with the system where I live now.
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