Nation's Gun Salesman In Chief Has Plan To Sell A Lot More Guns
Wayne Lapierre, whose job is to sell guns, is giving a speech before the right wing CPAC conference in Washington DC this morning. His big idea is to arm the nation's teachers. Cha ching.
It was reported that Newt Gingrich has proposed a plan to have at least 6 teachers in every American school carry a gun while at work. According to the calculation made by tv's Lawrence O'Donnell , that would mean there would be more armed teachers than law enforcement officers in the United States Of America. Happy days for Lapierre and the gun crowd. They will have succeeded in making America the proving ground for a constant personal arms race.
Wayne Lapierre is the head of the National Rifle Association. Most of his speech today is not about how to make gun use safer, it is an attack on the Democratic party, who he refers to as socialists. He goes on and on about how the Democrats want to take away ALL your freedoms.
A way to sell more guns? I'm sure he hopes so, his success in his role is dependent on pleasing his masters, the nation's gun manufacturers. Sales have been a little down, so perhaps he feels under extra pressure this year.
The National Rifle Association has no business being involved in politics, and yet Lapierre feels comfortable making a half hour speech that was largely an attack on one side of the country's political viewpoint.
But there was another aspect far worse than just attacking the Democrats. Lapierre attacked the FBI, citing an evil "rogue leadership" that has supposedly gripped the nation's law enforcement agency, in other words, he is mouthing the Trump administration's conspiracy nonsense about current events.
And that makes his NRA an enemy of the people.
that would mean there would be more armed teachers than law enforcement officers in the United States Of America
With guns comes the absolutely inevitable reality of gun accidents. Primarily for that reason, I didn't have guns in the house when I had kids, and I won't have them now that I have grandkids. Now we are supposed to accept that we pay taxes to support public schools with multiple guns in them? I think not. The time may come when it's the liberals who are home schooling their kids, to keep them safe from reckless conservative policies.
At one time, I kept a loaded 45 in my house. I didn't have kids but neighborhood kids would visit me. Before I would let any of them visit, I informed their parents that I did have a loaded gun. I left it up to them as to whether their kids would be allowed to visit me or not. I made sure that in was not in plain sight, but I still felt that their parents needed to know.
Hi Paula .. I wandered in late
I was raised with guns, as my sons have been... I applaud your decision to inform parents of the presents of a weapon in your home. I always spoke with my sons friends parents, asking if there were guns in their home, as well as how said guns were stored - at the same time informing them of the guns in my home and how they were and still are stored.
I was raised with fishing equipment in our house, as my children have been. Neither my parents nor I had to warn our neighbours about it.
I just felt as a gun owner that it was the responsible thing to do.
When I was about 5, I found my grandfathers rod and tried casting like I saw him do. I ended up with a hook in my butt.
With bathtubs come the eventuallity of bathtub slip accidents. Should we ban them?
If Red Volvos are involved in more drunk driving accidents, should we ban red volvos?
As to the thought behind this article, Wayne LaPierre is representing the organization which is dedicated to Representing Weapons Owners, he is not a gun salesman or anything like that. The NRA is also one of the leaders in the Gun Safety area.
As to arming teachers, I'd much rather see a robust School Resource Officer Program with sensible safety safeguards-each school my kids were n had a locked door policy-you had to be 'buzzed in' by office staff. Will someone try to find their way around it? Of course, someone always will, but when they do, I'd be happier with an armed group of resource officers there and ready as opposed to waiting on the response via 911.
Additionally, ownership of guns comes with responsibility. I grew up in a household of guns-but they were locked in the gun cabinet where they belonged-no visiting kids could get at them. I have 2 safes in my house and lockboxes for my vehicles. Safety is always the number 1 concern with a gun owner.
Then, you'd agree that when firearms are secured in people's homes and get stolen, that they should be held responsible for negligence if that/those weapon(s) end up being used in a crime.
Reportedly, Broward County has at least one armed resource officer on each campus.
The school in question was 46 acres and had one armed person on duty.
How many SRO's would be necessary for 46 acres and how would they have to be armed and equipped to make a reasonable response
other than being the first to call 911?
Lapierre's main function in public appearances is to scare people into buying more guns. This has been known for years.
Gun manufacturers are large contributors to the NRA.
Do we hold vehicle dealerships responsible when vehicles are stolen from their secured lots and then those stolen vehicles kill people? Do we hold knife and sword dealers responsible when their products are stolen from their secured stores and then those stolen products kill people?
Answer to both questions is NO.
I'm not concerned about your safety, I'm concerned about the safety of innocent people around those who are careless. Remember the lady who kept her loaded handgun in her purse at Walmart? Her kid just reached in and grabbed it, killing the mom instantly - in a crowded Walmart. Just imagine if you were in the next isle, and a bullet came at you through a box of cheerios.
Great reason not to own a gun. It might get stolen, and used in a crime.
Guess we shouldn't own Flat Screen TVs, Computers, or jewelry because some Meth head might steal them to sell and make more meth.
It was a silly question that didn't deserve to be answered.......
Nope, the people that steal the guns shoud be held responable
and lo and behold.
the on duty SRO took up a position outside of the building where the shooting was occurring and "failed" to act.
His inaction was captured on school security cameras and recorded.
Absolutely true. The sad reality is that there are actually very few, "average gun owners" that take it seriously enough to lock them up. Kudos to you for doing so. I lock mine up as well. Only one I keep unlocked and loaded....where I can get to it easily, but no one is going to just, "stumble across it".
And that SRO was fired because he did not engage the shooter. According to the Sheriff he stayed outside of the building while the shooting was taking place.
Here if you have a firearm stolen and don't report it, you can be held responsible if it is used in a future crime.
You're going to have to get use to armed people in schools. SRO's, trained and certified teachers and staff, retired military and law-enforcement, and other highly qualified and trusted volunteers. You're going to get used only one entrance door, and most likely, metal detectors. They have such arrangements on military bases, in State and Federal building, in the courts, and at airports, and it will eventually happen in schools. Right now this moronic idea of "gun free zones" and "ban all guns" has not worked out very well because of the number of guns out there.
Funny how any time someone says ban semi automatic rifles, or high capacity magazines, or armor piercing bullets, or bump stocks, it gets interpreted as “ban all guns”.
I'm beginning to wonder if their belief that it is a "God given right" also leads them to believe that no earthly power can regulate that right.
One problem with that plan. You cannot force someone to carry a gun. Teachers in particular are not going to be ok with that plan at all. Add to that? What's stopping a student from tackling a teacher and taking the gun, then turning it on his classmates, teachers, etc.? While some teachers are pretty good sized no doubt, a good portion are women who wouldn't stand a chance against a teenage male with a death wish. It wouldn't be much of an effort for the kids to take the gun, and in the classroom, kill most of his classmates before any help would be there. I don't think that adding more guns to a school is going to do any good at all, in fact, I am betting that it will make things worse. One thing to remember... The states with the highest percentage of gun ownership also have the highest incidence of gun violence. It's BEYOND obvious that, "more guns means less crime" is total bullshit. That's like trying to put out a house fire with gasoline. I support the 2nd amendment as much as anyone, but adding guns to a building full of hormonal teenagers is REALLY not a good idea. I would support armed security, that's fine, I am all for it. But armed teachers? No, bad idea.
It's already highly regulated, but how do you get rid of all the rapid fire automatic rifles now out there in the wild. Criminals will probably fight to keep theirs. Drug dealers too.
Another good plan was to allow the audience at movies to have guns. Can you imagine how much more exciting an action-adventure movie in Aurora, CO would be if everyone starts shooting in the dark?
Unfortunately there is a segment of our society that really DOES think that would be a great idea. It's a really strange culture; they literally think that because they are armed, they cannot be harmed, which is simply and obviously, not true at all.
If someone yelled "FIRE" in a theatre crowded with gun-toting people I can just imagine what would happen, and it wouldn't be running for the exits.
OK - we have to ban pregnancies, smoking, all fats, get rid of all the doctors/nurses, alcohol, take away pills, cars, poisons and drugs.
Anything else John?
Abortion & Obesity?
Source?
You do realize that it's a wholly biased religious website with multiple links to North Korean News and Unification supporters?
It's just a list with no supporting data or credibility.
Only to point out how absurd this trope always is and that your "murder by guns" and "suicide" (which is mostly by gun) numbers are utterly false.* Where'd you get this BS from the "right to life" wing of the NRA (please note the contradiction in terms). Over half of those categories fall under "life-style" choices, that's how bullshitty it is.
*FBI UCR data for 2016 indicates over 15,000 homicides by gun; CDC shows over 21,000 suicides by gun (2013)
When so much lying is required to try to make a problem go away it tells how desperately bereft of morality and honesty these people are.
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Not talking 2013 or 2016 stats for the entire year. Talking stats for the 53 days of 2018 - and you have no comparison.
Bullshit. You're looking at the wrong chart.
2016 saw 11,004 Firearm Homicides. Of those, only 374 by rifle, which includes the dreaded Assault Weapon.
Actually that number is all long guns including 22s, bolt action, and ARs
Since overpopulation is the main factor in anthropogenic global warming, shouldn't it be an issue?
Wayne Lapierre is a merchant of death....sorry but when this asswipe says NO every time any change to gun laws is made.
I'm all for the second amendment but something has to give......
Arming teachers is a recipe for disaster.
Making yet another law "banning" guns, in this case, a certain type...is not going to work. Putting properly trained armed people in the schools is the only thing that will offer some resistance to these killers. .
Advocating guns in schools is no different than advocating that guns be everywhere. A mass shooter could climb aboard a commuter train. So let's have a half dozen people on each commuter train or subway car armed and ready to fire at a moments notice. Same with McDonald's restaurants. Mass shooters have opened up in fast food restaurants in the past, so let's train a couple of the fry cooks to use a gun and have them tuck one in their apron.
There is no end to the weaponizing of society in the bizarre belief that if everyone is armed there will be less shooting.
Tell me how that works for police officers who are trained and still get gunned down. I'm sorry but it is a idiotic idea to arm teachers.
The ONLY thing ?
Please, get real
I’m sure those select teachers are real excited about being the first thing a surprise mass shooter will aim at too. Do they get additional “target pay”?
Except it did when it was a law from 1994-2004 and it has in every other country that's had a similar law. So, really big lie there.
Except it didn't:
Oh, and this: "and it has in every other country that's had a similar law."
So even if we banned, and did a buy back, it's not gonna stop the gun violence.
So where's the really big lie now?
This liberal just spent a lot of time and money building a long-range AR-15. Won't be shooting up a school anytime soon. The coyotes who kill and eat my chickens, puppies and kittens out here on the prairie might want to worry though.
And when that doesn't work? Then what? Next thing you know we will have all public and private buildings looking like Fort Knox. While the 2nd Amendment is important, it's purpose is not to completely define the way we live our lives and our lives should not have to constantly change to accommodate it.
So how is an active shooter going to be stopped? Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
No Trust in "Teachers" anymore ?
Wayne Lapierre said in his speech today that the right to own guns is a "god given" right to Americans, and owning a gun equates to the "right to survive".
This is extremism.
He smears every individual and every nation that "survives" quite well without a dozens guns in their house and on their person.
Yep. Although I would have said a right given to us by our creator. Since we gots lots of heathens that don't believe in God.
Yep. Correct on that point to John. It goes back to the Natural Right to live. Do want to live John? Do you think you have a right to defend yourself, and use whatever force is necessary to survive? Here's a newsflash for you John: The Government has no Obligation to provide specific protection for your life. But they are obligated to allow you the ability to protect your life. Your safety is your responsibility.
You are fascinated and one could say obsessed with guns. I suppose that relates to the way you were brought up. I don't equate owning and brandishing a gun with the right to survive. The right to survive is not dependent on having a gun at hand.
We have different outlooks.
Well...you never know, some day you might be.
What you and he fails to understand is that not every American believes in your God or any God.....he's just playing to the base.....
Do you consider these "kids" from our latest school shooting, to be "sensationalizing" what they lived (Well some of them) through, as some on the right and ole Wayne seems to be implying ?
Cause that's pretty low, even for the GOP and NRA "standards"
Luke 22:35-39 And He said to them, "When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?" So they said, "Nothing." 36 Then He said to them, "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. 37 "For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: 'And He was numbered with the transgressors.' For the things concerning Me have an end." 38 So they said, "Lord, look, here are two swords." And He said to them, "It is enough." 39Coming out, He went to the Mount of Olives, as He was accustomed, and His disciples also followed Him.
" And He said to them, “When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?”
So they said, “Nothing.”
Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it,and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. ". Luke 22:35-36
Although I would have said a right given to us by our creator.
I was created by my Mon and Dad, and they would never let me have a gun. When I asked, I was disappointed for about ten seconds. Then it occurred to me that there are plenty of worthwhile hobbies that don’t involve an instrument that people routinely use to quickly and efficiently murder other people.
This god-bothering grotesquerie (h/t to Newt fucking Gingrich for that word) that a god wants people to have weapons is just about as perverted as it gets when it comes to religion. This is also what radical islamic extremists tell themselves as the go off to murder a bunch of people. We have our own version of twisted religions freaks here.
I think it's the We-Make-Up-Shit As-We-Go-Bible.
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Since a sword and a bullet are the things which actually pierce the flesh and do the killing, your lord is limiting you to two bullets. It is enough.
Wrong. That has been the view of all Americans who love liberty since our founding. Our rights begin with the right of self defense and all natural rights come from God, not the State
"Their swords, and every other terrible instrument of the soldier, are the birth right of an American. ... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or the state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." -- Tench Coxe, noted federalist and friend of James Madison, writing in defense of the proposed Constitution, in the Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788
Message from John Adams to the Officers of the First Brigade of the Third Division of the Militia of Massacusetts
John Adams
October 11, 1798
"we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, • would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. "
United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 1876
The Justices stated "The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second Amendments means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress, and has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the National Government
"And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe--the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God."
John F Kennedy Inaugural Speech Jan 20 1961
As noted in the Declaration of Independence
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, ...
Oh, fuck that bullshit. For the first 87 years of this republic guns were mainly used to systematically murder native Americans and maintain slavery. In fact, more Americans were killed than in any other war from the South's attempt to keep and extend slavery in perpetuity.
I should have added that for the 100+ years following that war, they continued to be used for the killing and terrorizing of both native Americans and blacks. The gun in America has been a symbol of treason, oppression and intimidation not of a patriotic noble citizenry resisting oppression.
I expect nothing less than the sick twisted revisionist history that goes along with your hatred of this country.
I agree with you and yet have a 'dozen' guns in my house. quite a dichotomy.
Wayne LaPierre’s speech is the best I’ve heard in many years, if not my nearly 70 years on this earth. No one in my lifetime has so succinctly summed up what is happening to our country, and exposes the lies that the left and the propaganda arm, the media perpetuate. I’m hoping all Americans who love liberty and our Constitutional Republic will hear this speech. It’s no surprise that the the Marxist statist left will hate it. This speech exposes the left including the media for who they are, socialists who despise individual liberty and the Constitution, especially Due Process which protects us from totalitarianism
The fact that you endorse his speech 100% speaks volumes about it.
As I said, it was a speech that leftist will despise because it speaks the truth about them
The reality is that the discussion of mass shootings and the violence occurring on the streets of Chicago are two different debates. The violence in Chicago is clearly connected to a criminal element and gangs that are taking advantage of the endemic poverty within certain communities to create mini-fiefdoms and the criminals police their fiefdoms themselves and use violence to further their criminal enterprises. It's sad, but has little to do with the problem of mass shooters and the ease with which the mentally disturbed can access weapons that can inflict mass destruction in a school, movie theatre, concert or Church.
Of course it is different. BF has a one track mind about it though.
School Failed, Police Failed, FBI Failed, Apparently DHS Failed, and his Treatment center Failed.
So NOW who does one go to be judged Mentally Ill so they can't buy anything harmful to themselves or others ?
So, obviously, taking these types of weapons off the market is the only way to go. The ones people already have is another matter. No one's going to have them confiscated but there should be a major economic penalty to the owners of those weapons which are used as mass killing machines. Apart from prosecution for the crime if the perp survives, that gun's owner's assets should be seized (yes, even if the weapon was stolen as that would be due to that owner's negligence). Every possible pressure should be made on owners of these weapons to make sure they are secured. No excuses will be allowed if they end up being a murder weapon.
Obviously, the fix is already on the books. It's the people hired to do that job that need the fixing.
So a home invader should be asked to wait while the gun vault is opened?
Not if you masturbate while thinking about guns...
Is an accomplice to hundreds of thousands of murders. He's a criminal.
Says a hater of America and our rights as free people
Okay.
When do you intend to implement your "exterminate all the liberals" plan go, "patriot?"
Oh, so you were just making a joke. Oh, golly, I totally missed that--it was that subtle. So you really weren't comparing Seagrams to Lapierre. Great. We're agreed.
You are one scary old dude!
He's admitted he's got a plan for extermination of liberals, but he's also full of bullshit, so...........
LaPierre PISSES IN MY FACE AND TELLS ME "IT'S RAINING"!
Irony:
Liberals scream that Trump is Hitler.
Liberals want Trump to ban firearms.
That zombie lie just won't die no matter how many times it gets hacked to shreds. Makes me recall these famous lines from a song:
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your heart it will creep
Now, THAT's funny.
Don't project your paranoid ideations on me.
It's called mirth. Although it maybe hysteria in your fish bowl.
Skirting the CoC [ph]
2 day suspension for CoC violations ending Feb 25 2:30 est. [ph]
This liberal just built an AR-15 that shoots slightly under 1 MOA. Love my little black ranch rifle. Coyotes beware!
I once saw a bumper sticker that read THE CONSTITUTION GUARANTEES THE RIGHT TO BARE ARMS, SO RIP OFF YOUR SLEEVES FOR AMERICA!
Kind of long winded for a bumper sticker.
"Show me your tits" would be more succinct.
ok.
Wow, he's so lifelike!!!
Does that include moobs?
The entire GOP attacks the FBI these days, in defense of the moronic, criminal lunatic traitor in the White House. Incredible. And the Russia stuff, good freakin' LORD, the Russia stuff, the groveling to Putin, the maniacal, idiotic rambling! If a Democratic President had one TENTH the suspicious activity with Russia that Trump had, the right wingers would be going stark raving MAD and the Democratic voters would be JOINING them in removing the compromised, incompetent head case.
The right has consistently picked worse and worse candidates for President; there doesn't appear to be a bottom. Who's next wrongies? I was guessing Charles Manson (Charlie was definitely an anti establishment outsider plus he was non-PC to boot!) until he died. Any ideas on who the next guy might be, the guy worse than Trump?
Yeah, but he's in the White House right now. And by the looks of everything turning up in the Russia investigation, looks like the Dems are more likely to see charges than he is.
Huh?! Everybody in the Trump administration is indicted, turning and testifying. Trump is going down.
LOL!!! Gimme a hit of that Primo-Colombian Gold you're smoking!
You should watch something other than right wing rags. Manafort and Gates were in the news again today. Go look it up.
Yeah. Tax evasion. Hardly, in fact no where near a connection to the fairy tale of Russian collusion. Please Shrekk. I thought you were smarter than that. Don't destroy my opinion of you as at least a halfway informed liberal.
You like to tell people they know better than to say such and such. Apply your wisdom to yourself.
Mueller has signaled that he is going after Donald Trump. That is the purpose of the additional charges against Manafort. Mueller is putting the screws on him to tell the truth about the Trump campaign's association with Russians. If Manafort doesn't "co-operate" he is facing the rest of his life in prison. The tax evasion case against him is said to be very strong.
Personally, I am happy Mueller is targeting Trump. It is a very patriotic thing to do.
Tax evasion is what took Al Capone down finally.
It’s only “patriotic” if you are a fascist Democrat
It's their turn in the barrel and they're not enjoying it much, it seems.
Someone is already planning to go to a school and shoot some children. They already have what they need to do it. Which school do you want your child to be at tomorrow?
That one on the right is exactly the challenge someone with an AR-15, a death wish and a strong desire for instant infamy would love to try.
Though I am not a psychologist, based on Mr. Lapierres latest diatribes I can see why he is against background checks. The lad does not seem quite right in the head by my estimation.