Pittsburgh Synagogue Suspect Robert Bowers is Neo-Nazi Who Posted About Killing Jews on Far-Right Social Network Gab
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The man accused of murdering at least 11 people at a Pittsburgh synagogue Saturday morning appears to be a neo-Nazi who posted online about murdering Jews.
Robert Bowers, 46, of Pittsburgh had an account on Gab, a social media site beloved by the far-right. On Saturday morning, shortly before the shooting, Bowers posted an anti-semitic conspiracy theory and what appeared to be a threat of violence.
“Screw your optics,” he wrote. “I’m going in.”
Shortly thereafter, around 10 a.m., he allegedly entered Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue during a crowded service and started shooting. Witnesses said he shouted, “all Jews must die” upon entering, according to multiple reports.
The only Robert Bowers in the Pittsburgh area with the same birth month and year as the synagogue suspect has an email address listed in public documents that is linked to the Gab account.
Bowers’ Gab handle, “OneDingo” appears to be authentic. He has used the screen name in connection with his legal name on computer programming sites for years. His Gab profile was verified. Unlike Twitter, which verifies accounts that can prove their identities, Gab verifies accounts that pay for the status.
Shortly after the shooting, Gab deleted his profile and issued a statement claiming it has “zero tolerance” for terrorism and violence and boasting that it had contacted law enforcement after being alerted to the account.
But Bowers used his paid platform to promote neo-Nazi conspiracy theories and violence. Bowers used his paid platform to promote neo-Nazi conspiracy theories and violence. He repeatedly posted about the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, a Jewish nonprofit that aids refugees, and on Saturday claimed the group was bringing “invaders in that kill our people.”
a screenshot of a cell phoneThe claim echoes a neo-Nazi conspiracy theory underlying much of modern anti-semitism, which falsely claims Jewish people are trying to “replace” whites through immigration. It’s why neo-Nazis at a torchlit rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last year chanted, “Jews will not replace us.” The conspiracy theory is the cornerstone of some neo-Nazis’ white supremacist ideology.
“There are no words to express how devastated we are by the events in Pittsburgh this morning,” the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society wrote in a statement. “This loss is our loss, and our thoughts are with Tree of Life Congregation, our local partner Jewish Family and Community Services (JFCS) of Pittsburgh, the city of Pittsburgh and all those affected by this senseless act of violence. As we try to process this horrifying tragedy, we pray that the American Jewish community and the country can find healing.”
Bowers also posted conspiracy theories about George Soros, a Democratic donor whom another right-wing attacker allegedly targeted with a bomb this week, and who has become the subject of an anti-Semitic smear campaign by right-wingers. Other posts targeted individual anti-fascist activists whom Gab users have routinely harassed. He shared a post complaining about charges against the far-right group the Proud Boys, some of whom were arrested for their involvement in a NYC brawl this month.
He also posted conspiracy theories about George Soros, a Democratic donor whom another right-wing attacker allegedly targeted with a bomb this week, and who has become the subject of an anti-Semitic smear campaign by right-wingers. Other posts praised Hitler and targeted individual anti-fascist activists whom Gab users have routinely harassed. He shared a post complaining about charges against the far-right group the Proud Boys, some of whom were arrested for their involvement in a NYC brawl this month.
His header image was a neo-Nazi meme.
Bowers was also among a set of neo-Nazis who criticized President Donald Trump for what they perceived as him being not biased enough toward Jews.
Like Cesar Sayoc , the Florida Trump fan arrested Friday for allegedly mailing a dozen pipe bombs to Trump critics, Bowers used his account to threaten violence. He called for the killing of Jews and posted pictures of his guns, three Glock pistols.
He also appeared to have referenced Sayoc’s alleged bombing campaign. On Thursday, when far-right forums were in a frenzy over the bombs, he complained about “an amazing among of division on gab today,” followed by an anti-semitic comment.
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Whoa-- wait a second!
Do you mean to say that all those hordes of Mexicans (Not their best people-- you know, all those rapist, thieves, and secret Jewish members of ISIS trying to enter the United States are not actually secretly Jews disguised as Mexicans?
That it may actually be a False Flag Operation by The Jewish Mossad (and other equally sinister Jewish groups?)
Aren't most (obviously not all) jews pretty white?
Judaism is a faith and not a race though Nazis do not agree.
Butt, Nazis a/k/a White Nationalists are all olde dumbasses...
It's a faith and both a cultural identity and an ethnic identity, although the latter is the case largely due to the history of pogroms to expel or exterminate Jews like the Alhambra Decree in 1492. But because of that some folks can trace their ancestry straight to the Sephardim.
As far as the Nazis and neo-Nazis go they seem to have issues with anyone who's even vaguely semitic but Jews seem to take the brunt of their hate. At least the modern white supremacists have expanded their hate to include Muslim semites too. And then there's Stephen Miller.....hard to say how that one got so effed up.
The exception being, in many cases, the "Palestinians" who are definitely Semitic.
(BTW there's a common misperception that "Semitic" refers to a specific race. It does not. It refers t people of a certain linguisitic group (Semitic languages being for the most part Arabic, Hebrew, and Aramaic). Its not a relious group nor a racial group.
Are they? If so I've never been aware of that. Maybe I can see some "enemy of my enemy" logic but otherwise it doesn't make sense. But it's not something I've ever discussed with anyone.
Well, there are things that I've never discussed with anyone as well...so therefore I used to think they were untrue. (Eventually I begun to realized that just because I didn't know about something, it didn't necessarily mean it didn't exist).
To put it another way-- there are two types of things that I don't know.
-The things I know that I don't know. (For example, the annual # of bushels of Wheat produced in the U.S. in 2016. While I have no idea how many there were-- i do know that the U.S. did produce that wheat, and a certain number of busahels were produced. Even though I don't know the number.
-The things that I don't know-- where I didn't even know that information exists.
Just because I don't know that something exists doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
And just because I had no idea that something happened doesn't mean it didn't happen.
(I find this to be a constant problem on NT-- often people assume something didn't happen-- because they didn't know about it). Or to put it yet another way-- when you're dealing with a bunch of "know it-alls", its hard to have an intelligent conversation! They say it never happened-- because they know nothing about it.)
P.S: This is not a criticism of any specific individual or group of individuals.
Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, in Nazi Germany ,1943. Kedem Auction HouseOk-- now you are aware of it! Or at least beginning to be-- there's lots more after this. Although it is a bit off topic-- so I probably won't continue.
My point being that I know a few Palestinians and I've never heard them express any fondness for white supremacists or antisemites. I doubt the current crop of neo-Nazis here would even be aware that there are both Christian and Muslim Palestinians, and I can't imagine that they have any fondness for the latter anyway. But please educate me if you know something I don't.
I am hoping the connection of the two instances of violence (or attempted violence) over the past few days will open the eyes of some Trump supporters who perhaps voted for him and the GOP in '16 halfheartedly.
I know they won't change the minds of Trump's "Trumpsters", his ill informed and non thinking "deplorables", but perhaps these grave events will cause some of the half hearted Trump supporters to come to their senses.
These recent events are the fruits of the logical extensions of Trump's appeal.
There you go again, John....attempting to tie Trump to these sad and hateful events. But you know it's not true. In fact, just about everything you say about Trump and his supporters is just made up fiction and wishful thinking. All the hate and resistance coming from the left makes it more likely that the GOP will prevail in the midterms. The voters have finally seen the left for the miserable wretches that they are.
There is too much ignorance on Newstalkers.
As we see displayed on a daily basis here on NT by some outspoken members.
Where did you get your Psychic powers? (I would also like to have those, and to be able to read peoples' minds and know what they are really thinking!)
True. But after all-- this is a Social Media site!
Every time I log on I expect a YUGE amount of stupidity. And I'm rarely disappointed. So it mostly doesn't bother me.
Well-- sometimes there is an intelligent comment-- and that's when I shocked!
(For example your comment #2.3.1. Nice to hear a bit of sanity in the midst of all the nonsense from the "Chattering Classes")
I assume by that comment you are referring to people who have different opinions than you do. And that only those that have the same views as you do you consider to be extremely wise!
Of course many of those on the "other side of the aisle" feel the same way you do-- equally intolerant of different opinions.
(Funny how that works, eh?)
I would have settled for the numbers to the 1 billion dollar lottery last week. I could have afforded people to keep me invisible.
And you know it is.
"I am hoping the connection of the two instances of violence (or attempted violence) over the past few days will open the eyes of some Trump supporters who perhaps voted for him and the GOP in '16 halfheartedly."
Right...... Because voting for the party of Keith Ellison, Eric Holder, Maxine Waters and Hillary Clinton is so much better. Nothing beats saying you're anti violence like voting for the guy with domestic abuse allegations against him or calls to kick others or harrass others in public.
Now you got it! By light years better.
I'm so enjoying all the rightwingers above demanding to see the convictions. This was exactly what they were demanding from Mueller a year ago and, boy howdy, did they get what they asked for. As I always counsel these impatient ones--just give the legal system time and you'll get your wish.
And just how many of the"convictions" that Mueller got were directly related toTrump and/or Russian collusion and interference in the election?
Sounds like you haven't paid any attention at all since some of the indictments include crimes committed by specific Russians and Russian organizations and include election-related crimes like hacking DNC servers (which Trump publicly asked them to do). Mueller’s team has indicted or gotten guilty pleas from 32 people and 3 Russian companies that the public knows of, including Trump's campaign manager and 3 former Trump advisers, 26 Russian agents, some dude in California, and a London-based lawyer. 6 of those (including all 4 former Trump aides) have already pleaded guilty. In addition many other key persons like Trump's CFO have agreed to cooperate with Mueller and testify for the prosecution.
You live in a Faux News bubble I presume? Too lazy to turn the channel to get some real news and learn something?
And which of the people with the campaign were indicted or convicted of dealing between the Trump campaign and the Russians? What direct connection did the Russians and the Russian companies and Trump?
Oh and I do not watch FOX news. Maybe you should get yours from somewhere other than the DNC and Rachel Maddow
Shrekk, there are plenty of members here who just aren’t going to accept anything less than Donald Trump’s actual DNA found on anything related to anything. However, at that point DNA technology will become fake news.
I like how you keep shifting the goal posts and make them far narrower than what Mueller's mandate actually is. So far the score shows that most of the key people in Trump's campaign were profoundly corrupt and will soon be in prison if they aren't already (including his campaign manager who had direct ties to Russian oligarchs and owed huge debts to them), that the Trump campaign did indeed try to collaborate with Russian agents to influence the election, and that the Trump campaign repeatedly lied about their illegal efforts to get help from a hostile foreign power.
It's also revealed the depth of Russian efforts to manipulate the election to get Trump and other nutty Republicans elected, and it's done so despite the ongoing efforts of Trump, McConnell, Nunes and the GOP to thwart the investigation through obstruction of justice and other means (including threats against Obama from McConnell before the election). It's even shown direct collaboration between Russian agents, Republican operatives and Republican candidates in Florida.
the goalposts are just where they started out .They haven't moved an inch. Now you may not like my question but that is something different.
Without even having to look anything up, here are the big three right out of the Scumbag campaign at the highest levels:
So, the ones of the online pukefunnel that are even worse, then.
And the charges and/or convictions on them were for things that took place outside of their duties with the campaign andwere even before there was a campaign.
Not so and false, in that order. But keep praying for a miracle. You'll need it.
Because you say so? Pfft!
See, for example:
The Use Of Violence As A Political Weapon - What Trump Actually Said
It doesn't seem to be impacting Trump voters much at all, but it sure is motivating everyone else! I've only heard of a few cases where Republicans are reconsidering their support for our Fuhrer:
Unlike Cesar Sayoc, Robert Bowers hated Trump, Trump supporters, Israel, and Jews.
Next.
He only "hates" Trump because Trump hasn't succeeded in eliminating non whites from America. You can deny reality all you want, it is well known that the "you will not replace us" crowd is a noticeable element of Trump support. We are seeing that viewpoint acted on, in reality, not his blowhard speeches and rallies.
Donald Trump played with fire with all his talk of beating people up and body slamming them because they are his "enemies".
Now we see people, who see such expressions as a go ahead for violence, coming into the open.
Is this your latest conspriacy theory?
If you don't have anything intelligent to say it is generally better to say nothing. This advice applies to every one, not necessarily a particular individual.
Mea culpa, John. I didn't know that you personally interviewed Robert Bowers and learned this tidbit from him. Please post the transcript or video of your interview, because I'd like to see it.
Oh?
"After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go." Valerie Jarrett, President Obama's Senior Advisor
"I want you to argue with them [Republicans and Independents] and get in their face." President Barack Obama
"When they bring a knife, we bring a gun." President Barack Obama
And that's not a full list. Remember Joe Biden's threats of violence, too.
This is the kind of stupid thing right wingers regularly say. Obama was partaking in political metaphor. He didnt literally mean Republicans had used real knives against Democrats therefore Democrats would be justified in using real guns. It was metaphor.
On the other hand, when Trump said that someone who body slammed a reporter was "my kind of guy" , he was talking about something that had literally happened , in reality, and Trump went through the motion of pretending to physically body slam someone. No metaphor.
You need better arguments. All Trumpsters do.
I asked you to post your interview with Bowers. It shouldn't take you long to find it and post a link.
GM, XD.
Since it happens on a daily basis, I generally ignore when it happens. Those who do it think they've earned a gold star, and I like to make them happy.
Or even so much as made an attempt in that direction.
Oh please, jasper. You're not starting this nonsense again. What? It's not Pizzagate? Someone once seeded an article about Pizzagate like it was gospel. Could you imagine the brouhaha if someone said what you've said here? I think you were once friends with that person. If memory serves me, you commented on it. In a favorable way, in fact.
Do you think it is possible that someday you may take your own advice?
Except when he discriminated against non-whites renting apartments in his properties, and there's the Muslim ban. And the Mexicans, hell, he campaigned on the WALL to keep out the Mexican criminals, drug dealers and rapists the Mexico sends us.
These are just some of his " attempts in that direction."
There is not now nor has there ever been a Muslim ban.
Just keeping those out that do not think they need to honor and follow our laws. Let see? What is it that you call people that do not follow the law? Oh yeah! They are called criminals
Oh please. You're constantly on articles that you could easily scroll past, arkie. But keep talking ... you're the left's biggest booster. Remember ... one needn't be a member to read comments. Anyone on the fence would look at those who make sense and those that don't. Funny how you keep appearing where your personal opinion is vastly different than those of the seeder or author, yet you can't keep out of it. Does that make sense to you? It never ceases to amaze the number of people that don't realize they have a scroll function on their mouses.
Please keep talkin' arkie ... it's close to midterms and people want to see the difference between the left and the right. You're our biggest weapon to win the midterms!
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Trump said several times it was a Muslim ban. And he wouldn't lie..would he?
😂
then you should not have any trouble linking to one or three would you?
Actually there is. Some argue that was not his intent (to ban Muslims). But that's false-- the proof of intent is present in his Tweets.
Which version? The most recent one or the previous several which the federal courts found were unconstitutional because they were motivated due to religious animus?
Feel free to read the court rulings which struck down the first several variants - the courts found Trump's self-admitted Muslim ban to be clearly unconstitutional. That's why his regime kept going back to the drawing board.
It would be obviously unconstitutional for an EO to do that, so that's why the courts had to examine the stated intent, scope and rationality of the bans to determine if they were motivated by anti-Muslim animus.....and that's exactly what the courts repeatedly found in the first several versions of Trump's Muslim ban.
However I'm not surprised that you haven't actually read those court rulings to learn why the previous versions were struck down.
Except our federal courts repeatedly proved your claim to be false - it was intended as a Muslim ban and thus clearly unconstitutional.
So, SCOTUS let the 3rd version slip through? What happened to the several previous versions - including the ones which were rejected before they were officially issued? Why did they all get blocked by the courts?
Is the Trump regime so incompetent that they can't write a constitutional Muslim ban without help from the courts?
yes,,,
Regarding your last query, apparently so...
Frankly, I don't see reason to engage Tex...
There is a word for what he's doin to you...
I agree 100%. That's usually why I don't bother responding to him.
[deleted] Funny too that he's far too lazy to actually read the court rulings to learn why those EOs were unconstitutional.
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You handled it all admirably and made it look like childsplay.
All that he desires is an opportunity to flag your comments...
You can always tell a Texan. You just can't tell a Texan much.
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Trump tried and failed to institute a Muslim ban. He says so...
The courts would not let him butt it was not for lack of trying.
Sounds like you're coming a bit unhinged. Why did your Fuhrer call it a Muslim ban if it wasn't actually a Muslim ban? Was he just pandering to his Islamophobic base or to the entire GOP?
OK..... Scumbag. Feel better now?
Unfortunately, one thing is a common thread..
All these..Bowers, Proud boys, Charlottesville, and the bomber all directly link to the right.
Funny that here on NT we actually had members try to distance themselves using "he hated Trump" or even funnier trying to bring his Philipino family heritage in to this to disassociate him.
Now, who would use someone's ethnic background for that? (Pssst, the same right winger here that has no hesitation using the term "bitch" for females he doesn't like.)
All with direct links back to the right.
Kind of puts an uncomfortable twist on "paling around with terrorists", no?
"Next?"
It isnt really possible to defend Trump. Trump is kind of a perp in plain sight.
But because they like the "results" of his regime, they are more or less forced to defend him personally as well.
The links are there. Whether you like it or not.
Flag it....
Just wait till Trump takes away their access to healthcare. They are the only ones who deserve such a fate.
Not at all. It's good business. The media has devided us up for profit, they mostly play to their ideological base. Just like our politicians do. Divide americans up for power and profit. What a country. We the people got screwed !!!
It's OK just keep voting straight party line, that should change things....LOL
Insanity defined !!!
Yep and it's their bread and butter. Putting steak on the table for years now.
I can see where that would be frustrating for those who insist that acts of terror committed by those on the right are false flag operations to have that conspiracy theory negated so quickly. But I wouldn't call it whacko to report the political affiliations of those committing politically-motivated crimes. I'd call it journalism.
The only ones that are identified by their party affiliation, at least first thing in the article, are Republicans If the peep is a democrat they either forget to mention party affiliation at all or it is buried at the end.
Of course. That's why Republicans have harped for so long on the shooting of Steve Scalise by a liberal. Because nobody knew that the shooter was a liberal, and liberals were screaming "false flag!" /s
Well, that's bullshit. All he's said is that there'll be no MAGA until all the "kikes" are dead. The meanest thing he said about Scumbag was that he's a "globalist."
Really? So left-wing Slate is lying? Here ... try left-wing Daily Beast on for size ...
Still not good enough? Check out left-wing Huff Po ...
One more left-wing site - Heavy ...
Note: I verified that all 3 of the above sources are left-wing by using NT's gold standard, MB/FC.
All you said there is that Bowers shares Trump's vile agenda but wants him to do more.
The far more relevant thing is that Bowers reacted to Trump's repeated dog whistles and demonization of refugees by killing Jews who supported those refugees.
The MAGA Bomber and The Synagogue Shooter both emerged from the same far right wing swamp. Hate of whomever the damn gop deems to be others is the common denominator. Hate crimes are way way way up across the board. Brown skinned people are twice as likely to be violently assaulted today than they were before Trump became President of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICS! All Black, Hispanic, Asian, Gay, Muslim and Jewish Americans are at significantly greater risk to the loss of their property, freedoms and very lives directly because of the rise of Trumpism. Any political movement is off the track when they become an ism...
Wake Up People! This is not the America we want. Vote like yours and everybody you love's lives depends upon it because they do this time. Peace to all good people and damn the gop on Tuesday November 6th...
This sentence is very instructive to the mindset of the fringe left. Peace to everyone who agrees with us. Screw everyone else.
Just one more reason you will continue to lose ground, including this November 6th. One wonders if you will survive another disappoint like November 2016. I guess we will see.
You logic evades comprehension. Butt, that is nothing new round here...
to normal people this comment makes sense.
because your comment suggest that for folks like you, you dont seem to understand that NOV 6th is really not about democrats vs republicans.
It is simply about having regular normal people effect change that stupid people have put in place. We under estimated how many mentally lacking people there are in this country. And to be honest it is embarrassing to me to know i am surrounded by so many and this is why the world laughs at us now.
Lol, the usual thinly veiled insult ..... how predictable.
That said and again, you'll see the logic the morning of November 7th. Or not. Since you apparently still haven't learned anything from 2016.
Your post is wrong on so many levels it makes no sense to even respond to it really.
I just sincerely hope you have a good personal mental health network to lean on. I think you might be needing it in about a week.
Funny that any publication in the center or a bit right of that has become "left." That's how extreme Republicans have become. But even funnier is that you think being "insufficiently anti-semitic" or that he wasn't enough of a nationalist* (Trump repeatedly calls himself one--what do you think?) gets Trump off the hook. I believe this is what's called "damning with faint praise."
* I note that Republicans have now embraced that term which just underscores its headlong rush to the extreme right. Extreme nationalism was our enemy in WWII and now it's the 5th column right here at home.
Also relevant-- what David Duke said about the election of Trump.
(I just realized many here might have never heard of Duke-- or if they did, don't know anything about his-- so here's a bit):
David Ernest Duke (born July 1, 1950) is an American white supremacist, white nationalist politician, white separatist, antisemitic conspiracy theorist, Holocaust denier, convicted felon, and former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.
Duke speaks against what he alleges as Jewish control of the Federal Reserve Bank, the U.S. federal government, and the media. Duke supports the preservation of what he considers to be Western culture and traditionalist Christian family values, as well as abolition of the Internal Revenue Service, voluntary racial segregation, anti-communism, and white separatism. [5] [6] [7]
Duke has taken part in Iranian government sponsored events in Iran. In 2006, at the invitation of Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Duke took part in an event held in Tehran to question the Holocaust.
"The Zionists have used the Holocaust as a weapon to deny the rights of the Palestinians and cover up the crimes of Israel," Duke told a gathering of nearly 70 participants in Tehran at Ahmadinejad's invitation. "
His website has hosted articles by various authors claiming that Jewish loan-sharks own the Federal Reserve Bank, [154] and that Jews own Hollywood and the U.S. media. [155] Duke also opposes what he considers to be "promotion of homosexuality" by Jews.
White supremacist leader David Duke has congratulated Donald Trump on his inauguration. “We did it!” he wrote on Twitter.
“Congratulation [sic] Donald J. Trump President of the United States of America!” he wrote. Duke, a former Imperial Wizard for the Ku Klux Klan, was very vocal in supporting Trump throughout his campaign.
In a series of tweets during the inauguration on Friday, Duke praised Trump for “declaring war” on the agenda of the “Jewish establishment” and said he would “return dignity to the white working class.”
I like how the future gov of Florida put it.....so recycling and modifying a bit:
We can be pretty sure he's a racist based on his personal history, but more importantly he's a sociopath who panders to racists and worse. And he's got a real attraction to brutal despots.
I knew things were going to get really bad when he became prez, I just didn't know what it would look like. Now we all know. It's also disturbing to see that he and Pence do things like all the anti-LGBT stuff because it's fun to them and helps gin up their base. They don't care that it hurts children and vulnerable people. I never used to use the word evil to describe anyone but now I do.
He's sort of like a blend of Joe McCarthy and Father Coughlin from the early era of hate radio, but with a nasty form of dementia.
you commented on JBB's comment and i stated that YOUR response is wack. and that JBB's comment is fine because normal non trump lovers can understand it.
So Jbb's reply to you was accurate.
Nah, both your comments show just how deranged some on the left have become. Damning anyone in the GOP? Unbelievable sweeping hatred typical of the radical left. A tactic doomed to failure
That path will fail and I only hope that doesn’t cause those on the left to become even more deranged. But i’m sure they will become more deranged next week and spiral even faster down the toilet of obscurity.
Get your support network spooled up. You’re going to need it next week.
It does not seem you are even trying to deny that white nationalist xenophobia is the core elements giving rise to Trumpism but rather instead that you are angry, frustrated and agitated that the vast majority of us now plainly reject such low mindedness. Hate, resentment and avarice are the exact opposites of the values which really make America great and I remain confident that the American People will make this abundantly clear to the damned gop next Tuesday. Damnef, you ask? Yes, damnef. Damned by providence and posterity for politically surrendering to the most low down no good awful bassackwards tribal impulses men are capable of. Damned for ushering in The Age of Trumpism. The ending of which all good and decent American long to see and it cannot come soon enough. The universe willing, the damned gop is entirely deserving of the voter disgust coming its way like an unstoppable freight train on Tuesday. So, prepare yourselves because this one is gonna stink. Sting with the revelation that everything evil the gop now plainly stands for is utterly rejected by the American People...
Nope, like usual you are spot off to anything but your own extremists underpinnings. White Nationalist xenophobia? Hilarious. I'm not angry, i'm laughing my ass off at your overreaching nonsense.
Your just mad because it's looking highly likely that you will not gain the traditional ground next week that the minority party historically gains in a mid-term election. Historically! So sad for you.
The platform you are spewing has been failing in liberal faces since 2016. Your freight train is more like a faulty Matchbox Car. The one that never ran straight or true right out of the box.
Will you ever learn? Nope, much to your own detriment, it looks like you never will
for some silly reason you seem to be reply as if the political results effect my life in such a way as if i cant function.
i am just agreeing with those folks who have noticed that stupid people are being tricked by a person who has no ability to maintain himself with a sense of morality that serves more then himself.
so next week will only confirm that there are a lot more dumb people or that normal citizens are tired of dealing with politicians that love dumb people.
Fortunately more and more Americans are rejecting such scum. That's very bad news for the extra-white GOP.
I wonder at what point the GOP will realize that xenophobia and bigotry aren't winning strategies? 2020? 2050? Will there even be anyone who votes for the GOP in 2050?
Jon Stuart had a very perceptive phrase to describe Trump-- he called Trump's attiiude a sort of "Gleeful Cruelty".
Try to find that actual quote from Bowers. I've already posted the worst things Bowers has been documented to have written about Scumbag and it isn't even close to rage. Mild disappointment at most--I guess for not literally calling for Jews to be murdered. But let's see you try to find an actual quote from Bowers' that comes close to suggesting "hate" for Scumbag.
Yeah...we're really disappointed now....lol
The fake-victim gambit....always a go-to attempt to deflect from the topic.
Hmmmmmm going back three weeks?
Slow propaganda pushing day?
Bowers disillusionment with Trump is based on his viewing Trump as a globalist rather than athe nationalist Trump calls himself; and here is Bowers’ connection back to Trump ... pay attention so that you don’t foist your fallacy again thinking you’ve made a case.
Bowers like Trump, hates Soros because Soros is, to both, a globalist and a Jew ... two strikes on the haters Trump and Bowers. And here is strike three on this pair of shit bags; Bowers went after the Jews at the synagogue because of his anger towards Jewish organizations that helped immigrants trying to flee from drug cartels and human traffickers ... like THE CARAVAN that Trump, Fox and haters in Trump’s base denigrate endlessly.
Get the facts before posting half truths and lies ... and then tell the full story.
Eleven innocent human beings were killed NRA style and we have people who want to split hairs and call every fact that doesn’t suit their disgusting agenda, “fake news.”
Your hyperbole is getting ..... well ..... very hyperbolic there Mac.
Bower's beliefs are Trump's beliefs just more extreme. Krazy Trumpism...
It is disgusting, isn't it?
That is a lie.
3.5 Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו replied to Jasper2529 @ 3 15 hours ago
Atheist, by now you should know better than to accuse me of lying. I've chosen 2 left wing sources for your reading pleasure:
Have a good weekend.
Maybe you should try to look for the worst anti-Trump quote you can find instead of just a headline that says he said something.
Based on those links it sounds like Bowers fully agrees with Trump's vile agenda but he wants him to be even more antisemitic than merely vilifying Jews like Soros and retweeting antisemitic and neo-Nazi memes.
The far more relevant thing is that Bowers reacted to Trump's repeated dog whistles and demonization of refugees by killing Jews who supported those refugees.
Your comment indicates that you didn't read the articles I posted in comment 3.5.1 and only read the headlines. Whatever.
Except it's exactly the opposite of that........but, yeah.....whatever.
Nice try........
American Jewish leaders including Senators Diane Feinstein, Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders along with philanthropists like George Soros and former NY Mayor Michael Bloomberg are constantly and consistantly demonized and dehumanized right here on NT. In fact, the vast majority of Jewish American who will vote Democratic on November 6th have been BRANDED AS ANTISEMITES by one favored and prolific "contributor". Oddly, the dehumization of American Jews, the vast majority of whom just so happen to be Democratic voterd, has been perpetuated by one supposed Jew, though I do have real doubts about that. It seems to me to be instead rank foreign propaganda specially crafted by our foreign enemies to divide Americans ultimately reducing most American Jews and especially our American Jewish political leadership to being subhuman thus ineligible for basic decency. It all happen right out in the open for all to see under the false grace of supposedly being pro-Israel. Though i doubt that, too. WAKE UP PEOPLE!
Interestingly, David Duke made some unusually astute comments on this very topic:
"Why we voted for Donald Trump" : David Duke explains the white supremacist Charlottesville protests
What do you think would, or rather should, be the consequences for demonizing and dehumanizing the Likud Party, their elected political leaders and Prime Minister Netanyahu? I believe, on this site, that would be and also should be met with almost universal derision and probably swift sanctions. On the other hand, any American Jewish politica leaders or popular entertainment figures who ever dare to not toe the extremist stance much less dain to ever criticise Israel are routinely vilified, demonized and dehumanized by questionable butt prolific public figures on American social media.
Calling any person antisemitic is a damn serious thing butt I guess it is just fine and dandy around for the pet crank to routinely dehumanize, degrade and slander Jewish US Senators Bernie Sanders, Diane Feinstein and Chuck Schumer by regularly, publically and vociferously vilifying them all specifically for their Jewishness. I don't get it. Is it all just because John Bolton and the Mellons say so? I don't think so. I think anyone who dares to protest this conundrujm has a target on their heart. Someday it will be revealed just very much dangerous divisive and ultimately violent anti-American foreign propaganda is being spread onto American social media by both unwitting fools and enemy agents right now. Today! It has gone on for a long time now but people are catching on. In any case, I have had it with saying nothing so let the whine heard round the world begin again now...
What a silly comparison. Plainly you don't understand...
We’re discussing murderers ...
LOL. No, BF, they won't. In fact I get the feeling that they won't because they're "respected" by so many voters.
Ummmm......Farrakhan is an antisemitic and homophobic right winger who has openly praised Trump and said that Trump was appointed by "god." He's not a Dem. Not sure what your comment has to do with the topic anyway, other than confirming that antisemitism is still rampant amongst conservatives.
Do you know the actual story behind the photo … I don't think so. And, if you (correctly) see Farrakhan for the hateful piece-of-incendiary shit he is, then, in trying to equivocate the Trump-precipitated horrors we're experiencing, you are being hypocritical.
How about posting the full story instead of the part the suits an agenda?
Are you going to tell us? Because your link doesn't tell much of a story. All it says is that it was some event involving the Congressional Black Caucus. Is that supposed to make to it all better?
“Typically guests at the CBC meeting are cleared by the caucus chair and scheduled for a specific date and time. However, sometimes there are unexpected guests. For example, if a member of the caucus has a meeting with someone on the day of the lunch that he or she wants the caucus to meet (e.g. the head of the local NAACP chapter in their district, an actor or actress who is on Capitol Hill advocating for a cause), that member may choose to bring that person to the meeting unscheduled for a quick introduction.”
It’s also unclear if the photo proves that Obama’s relationship with Farrakhan was cozier than previously acknowledged. Farrakhan may have gravitated to the emerging political star to say hello, Muhammad was in the right place and time, a snapshot ensues.
But Jewish leaders like Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of the ADL, remain adamant.
“Over his career, @barackobama has denounced the bigotry of Farrakhan. Time to do so again,” he tweeted. “Leaders always should make sure that there’s no doubt: America is no place for those who advocate #antisemitism or hate.”
Farrakhan who was in town for a reason associated with the Million Man March, was not necessarily invited to the CBC meeting …
“Typically guests at the CBC meeting are cleared by the caucus chair and scheduled for a specific date and time. However, sometimes there are unexpected guests."
You're suggesting he photobombed Obama? I don't think I'm buying that. I think two people who knew very well who the other was took a picture together and both were happy and excited to do it.
Please offer verifiable quotes that Wright made anti-semitic comments. If you do not do so, we should expect you to formally retract that baseless smear.
So all it take is being in the same picture with really bad people and smiling? Easy peasy, as someone has told be recently:
That was pretty disingenuous give the large volume of Wright antisemitic comments to choose from online. Very credible.
So, you couldn't come up with any actual anti-Semitic comments but had to go to an extreme rightwing Israeli publication to keep the smear alive. None of the quotes attributed to Wright are any different than moderate and liberal Israelis and American Jews make against the government of Israel. This is a common tactic of extreme rightwing Jews against anyone, including other Israelis and Jews anywhere else who dare to criticize the ethnic cleansing policies of the extreme rightwing Israeli government. Your accusation against Wright is just the usual smear and is false.
Here's more on the extremist Arutz Sheva:
It took me less than 3 minutes to find 3 of his anti-semitic comments:
Need more?
“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.” {Sep 2001}
“The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.”
None of those quotes are ant-Semitic.
A new calumniator joins the pack. The day you can seem credible on this subject will be the day you call out Scumbag for his many antisemitic smears of George Soros. Oh, but maybe you agree with those smears. Are you on record about them either way?
In trying to make anti-Zionist (the extremist modern version which is better described as "eliminationist") comments into anti-semitism betrays ignorance, indifference and desperation of the extreme rightwing in this country. For one thing, claiming that anti-government criticism of Israel is anti-semitism leads to the absurd situation where a very large bloc of Israeli and American Jews are "anti-semitic." Sometimes the rightwing in this country serves us well as useful idiots.
Some extremely "Pro-Israel" far rightwing American small c christian evangelical fundamentalists have zero affinity for Jews or even Israel except for the essential apocryphal parts Jews and Israel must play in their end time apocalyptical wet dreams. Antisemites? I wouldnt go that far. Pro-Jewish? Hardly. Pro-Israel is a really loaded term today which can mean very different things to different people. What galls me are those who knee jerk equate any disagreement or especially any criticism of Israel as equalling antisemitism. Israelis can criticize the Israeli government butt anyone else does and somebody brands them antisemitic. That is bullshit.
I'll do you one better than that......here's an Orthodox rabbi blaming the terrorist attack on Teh Gayz, in essence blaming the victims. The Shabbat service included a bris for the newly adopted children of a same-sex couple and the attack apparently happened during the bris, although I don't know if that couple was among the wounded or killed.
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Wanna bet that freak of nature is a Trump voter? The odds are darn near 100%.
As paulist small c christian fundies often give Christians and all Christianity a black eye some among the far right wing of Judaism, Islam and Hinduism give their own respective faiths bad names. Buddhist? Not so much...
Usually you only hear about Buddhists when they really go off the rails like with Pol Pot. I'm sure there must be self-righteous nags and scolds somewhere in that tradition but I don't think there's a textual orthodoxy to support it like there is in the Abrahamic cults.
So now you've backed off of them being anti-semitic to just "disappointing" and you claim I lost? Last time I checked the dictionary "retreat" was not listed as synonym for "winning."
I just read an article that said this:
Out of curiosity, were they all within Trump's presidency or did any of them occur before it? And if any occurred before it, what was different?
There you again Buzz ..... using common sense.
Is that what you folks are calling massive deflection these days? Odd. Sad.
Nah, it’s common sense. Shame you don’t recognize it anymore .... if you ever could.
It's common, yes, but not sense. The opposite of sense.
Why do folks insist on giving "crazy" a political label.
Anything to help push an agenda i suppose .....
Would you have treated this pos or let him bleed to death?
Jewish doctors, nurses saved wounded synagogue gunman even as he spewed anti-Semitic hate
Jewish doctors and nurses at Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh put their personal feelings aside to help save the life of the man who allegedly claimed he wanted to “kill all the Jews” as he opened fire at a synagogue and murdered 11 worshipers.
Robert Bowers, 46, was shot multiple times himself and taken to AGH. In addition to killing eight men and three women, he wounded six other people, including four police officers, before surrendering Saturday.
“He was taken to my hospital and he’s shouting, ‘I want to kill all the Jews’,” Dr. Jeffrey Cohen , president of Allegheny General Hospital and a member of the Tree of Life Synagogue, told ABC. “The first three people who took care of him were Jewish.”
In Oklahoma it is illegal to give assistance to a run over child bleeding to death on the side of the road if they are undocumented. That is just how awful and inhuman the laws that being passed in red state gop legislatures across America today are. Proud? Not I. Not My America. F That...
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No it is not. I am on a phone or else I would attach any number of sources butt you can Google it for yourself. It is NOT just in Oklahoma either. It is illegal to give aid or assistance to anyone in Oklahoma that Oklahoma deems to be in Oklahoma illegally. Instead one must first notify law enforcement and have them deal with it in their own good time and this awful inhumane law plainly includes bleeding immigrant children dying for lack of simple first aid on a roadside of suffocating in a rail car. If you are unaware then that is on you. WAKE UP AMERICA!
Show me were in HB-1804 it says it's illegal to give emergency medical aid to an injured undocumented immigrant, it simply isn't there. Besides, do you seriously think a private citizen or EMS would first check or ask if the one in need of emergency medical aid was in the country illegally before helping them? That's freaking ridiculous.
Giving aid means it forbids harboring and giving shelter to illegal immigrants. Immigrants use of health care services and receiving emergency medical assistance has been unaffected by HB 1804 because medical services are exempt.
There is this provision:
So, it's not at all out of the realm of possibility that this law could be used by some hot-dog sheriff to arrest someone who transports an undocumented injured or sick child to a hospital. And it wouldn't surprise me a bit if that would happen in a state like OK.
That wouldn't happen and if it did the person arrested would immediately have the charges dropped because HB 1804 exempts medical situations from it.
Wow!...its a good thing we still have funding to investigate those right wing extremist groups....oh wait
Yeah, it's notable that not only did Trump order the DHS to stop investigating those right wing extremist groups but he's even deliberately not condemned the anti-refugee sentiment which inspired this act of antisemitic terrorism. But if he were to do that how could he ignore his own role in fomenting that irrational hatred?
Incited by an orchestrated political strategy to stoke haters.
It would probably be most efficient for DHS simply to monitor Trump's rallies to find terrorists and potential terrorists.
Actually, until they reach our border, their refugees! Until they CROSS the border, their refugees....you see by our law what they are doing is perfectly legal, too bad Fox News is allergic to facts, otherwise a lot of people would know that
False on both. Bowers was a frequent, social-media active and regular contributor to a hate forum devoted to nazism. He was the very opposite of some recluse. And Beierle was part of the "incel" community feeding one another with male entitlement and resentment at being spurned by women who avoided them like plague. IOW, both of them elements of the general violent rightwing male community.
Just as predictable as the tides: Everytime we get a new rightwing extremist hate crime the rightwing choir begins it's off-key chanting: "YEAH BUT WHAT ABOUT FARRAKHAN....WAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
Louis Farrakhan has never killed a Jew. His words are despicable but trying to make them offset the acts by killers from the far right just makes the entire rightwing seem complicit.