Trump's intentions ? What were Trump's intentions ? No one knows for sure but Trump himself.

  

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By:  321steve  •  3 weeks ago  •  49 comments

Trump's intentions ? What were Trump's intentions ?  No one knows for sure but Trump himself.
Too Long for a Post, Probably, So I'm seeding it for now. lol

 

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Too long for a post?  Probably. Lol   So I’m  seeding  it as an article for now.  

Part one:  By: 321Steve  

Trump was impeached charged with incitement of a Inserection. The capitol as we all know was attacked by a mob of trump supporters so... 

                What really did trump intend?  

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Trump's  intentions?  

What were Trump's  intentions? No one knows for sure but Trump himself.   

But, we can look backwards from what happened to see that President Trump had thought about being president for a long time before he won.   

Nothing wrong with that for sure but his life does show a lot of dedication, time, effort and money spent to achieve the position of President of the United States of America.

So,  its little doubt he was not too  enthusiastic  about giving that position of great power up.  

IMO: I'd say trump did about everything he could think of to retain power.   I see no stones left unturned.   

During and after  exhausting  every legal avenue to hold power ....  

Trump crossed the line of reality,  decency , and honesty including  lying  repeatedly to the point of even perhaps    (in a way) brain-washing some people.  

IMO: trump crossed the line even further by knowingly assembling a crowd of his most loyal radical  followers , ramping them up and  directing  them to the capitol.  

Many of his followers believed trump himself wanted them to "Stop the Steel" at any cost.(Just as trump operates), some seemed to believe the National Guard would soon be sent to assist them and some evidently  even believed  martial  law would soon be declared.   

IF SENATORS HAD BEEN TAKEN HOSTAGE this may have been the next step.   

What would have happened IF Senators, House Members or Vice President Pence were taken hostage or were or had been murdered?  ??

   

Part Two:      

Just a little collaboration of what I'm  thinkin  and posting in this seed...  

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Here's a Timeline of Times Donald Trump Ran for President p lus,  his latest antics      July 28, 2015  

   

TV GuideNews       

1987-1988: Trump considers a run for president, while simultaneously juggling large debts stemming from his purchase of the Taj Mahal casino.  

2000: Trump enters the presidential race as a Reform Party candidate and receives more than 15,000 votes in the party's California primary.  

2003-2004: Trump begins hosting the reality show The Apprentice on NBC, which he also executive-produces. He again mulls a run for president, but ultimately decides not to join the race.  

March 2011: A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows Trump leading all presidential contenders, including Mitt Romney.  

May 2011: Trump officially announces that he will not run for president.  

2013: Trump forms a presidential exploratory committee and, despite a strong backing from Republican voters, announces that he has no interest in running for governor of New York in 2014.  

February 2015: Trump decides not to renew his Apprentice contract, fueling speculation that he's mulling a run for president.  

June 2015: Trump formally announces that he's running for president in a speech delivered from Trump Tower in New York City. Almost immediately, corporations and individuals that have partnerships with Trump - including Macy's, NBC and Univision - begin to sever ties with the mogul because of disparaging comments he made about Mexicans in the speech announcing his candidacy.      

https://www.tvguide.com/news/shows-like-virgin-river-netflix-season-3/ 

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Martial law is the temporary imposition of direct military control of normal civil functions or suspension of civil law by a government,  

Martial law may be declared in cases of major natural disasters; however, most countries use a different legal construct, such as a state of emergency.  

Martial law has also been imposed during conflicts, and in cases of occupations, where the absence of any other civil government provides for an unstable population. 

Typically, the imposition of martial law accompanies curfews; the suspension of civil law, civil rights, and habeas corpus; and the application or extension of military law or military justice to civilians. Civilians defying martial law may be subjected to military tribunal (court-martial)  

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Even FOX NEWS was reporting on the rumors of Martial Law ....

Rumors of martial law fly despite reassurances 

Published March 26, 2020  

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/rumors-of-martial-law-fly-despite-reassurances 

   

Martial law rumors fly during coronavirus pandemic 

Despite what you may have read in a text message or on social media, there are currently no plans for a national quarantine  

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/martial-law-rumors-coronavirus-pandemic 

   

VERIFY: Warnings of 'martial law' and 'mandatory quarantines' are false 

https://www.fox61.com/video/news/verify/verify-warnings-martial-law-mandatory-quarantines-false/507-18518e84-cd12-459f-b773-0cfde4a38424 

 

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   What would have happened IF Senators, House Members or Vice President Pence were taken hostage or were or had been murdered ???  

         What really were Trump's intentions?     

     No one knows for sure but Trump himself.   


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Bob Nelson
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1  Bob Nelson    3 weeks ago

I doubt Trump had plans in case of a hostage situation. In four years, he has never shown any sign of thinking that far ahead.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Bob Nelson @1    3 weeks ago

I think he did and had but, trump blew his takeover because of mainly his lack of details in planning.

 
I also believe trump miscalculated the real lack of utter violence his followers were willing to commit at the time.

IMO: Most Americans aren't really programed to commit horrendous violence or murder to just get  their own way. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1    3 weeks ago

We'll have to wait for a few ''tell all'' books from his associates.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.2  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.1    3 weeks ago

trump probably does not take many people into confidence in his real mindsets. ever ! 

I'd say that is usually reserved for family only.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

Do you suppose that his family won't betray him for a few pieces of gold?

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.4  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.3    3 weeks ago
Do you suppose that his family won't betray him for a few pieces of gold?

IMO: trump has raised his children to be much like he is.

Yes, I do think it probably would take more than money itself to ever really turn at least his children against their father.

I'd say is a good thing though. 

But, Enough power ?  Well ?     

IMO: trump Has raised his children to be much like HE is, so ya never know. POWER +$$$ ??   

I do think it would for sure take a shitload of cash and or power to get his son's to turn on him though.

and I'm sure trump really does trust his children more than any humans on earth. 

trumps true confidants and advisers, his family.

IF trump can't take the presidency again I'm sure he will push for one of his sons to be president soon enough. 

Betray their father ? Unlikely. 

IMO: the trumps are all too alike. Power thirsty !

          

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.5  Bob Nelson  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.4    3 weeks ago

We shall see...

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.6  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.5    3 weeks ago

So True.

I think trump has kind of thrown a wildcard into America's future and you are so right, well see what the future holds. 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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1.1.7  FLYNAVY1  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1    3 weeks ago

Hi Steve...... I've had this nagging feeling that Trump was willing to martyr Pence, McCarthy, just about anyone in congress to declare martial law, negate the election, so to stay in office.

  • He was ready to throw pence to the dogs on 6JAN21, and that has been documented by phone calls and tweets.
  • He was ready to throw McCarthy to the dogs on 6JAN21, and that screaming match is well documented.
  • In the days leading up to the congressional certification of the electoral college, S. Powell, and Mike Flynn made statements regarding martial law.
  • The My Pillow guy was photographed with the words martial law on his note pad on the day of his visit to the WH.

I have no proof, just superficial data points and perceived Trump motivations.  

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.8  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

It hard to even contemplate. 

But it sure seems to be the reality of what has happened. trump was in it to win and hold power no matter what the cost. He has to "Make America great again".  

Unreal !!!!! 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.9  Bob Nelson  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.8    3 weeks ago

The contradictions are staggering, aren't they?

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.10  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.9    3 weeks ago

Insanity at its finest. 

In typical trump fashion.

Sad ! 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.11  Split Personality  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1    3 weeks ago

Trump did not understand the Mike Pence's role in validating the certified State ballots was merely decorative,

a concession to some past Vice President who was bored to death by the office.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.12  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Split Personality @1.1.11    3 weeks ago
Trump did not understand the Mike Pence's role

I just shake my head when I think of how trump treated Pence all along then in the end even totally betraying his own vice president to the hilt.

OMG: ........ Speechless !

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.13  Bob Nelson  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.12    3 weeks ago

What have you done for me... lately?

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.14  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.13    3 weeks ago

Why did you not jump both feet first into the fire for me mr pence !!! 

yep, So So SAD !

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.1.15  igknorantzrulz  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.8    2 weeks ago
He has to "Make America great again".  

ungrateful for the America he left...US with ? 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.16  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  igknorantzrulz @1.1.15    2 weeks ago
He has to "Make America great again".  
ungrateful for the America he left...US with ? 

Yep not happy at all with how trump ruled and left America. 

Hell I haven't been happy with America's political system since our choice of presidents was trump or hildabeast.

Furthermore I'm still not real happy with how our government is being ran.

As a true middle of the ground political person IMO: Both parties are unreasonably power hungry.

I'm a true believer in the two parties compromisingly running the country.

I believe both republicans and democrats have both advantages and disadvantages to their ways and believes. 

I really do believe that America is and has been GREAT Because of the mix between cons and libs.

Cons change too slowly

libs change too fast

IMO: A combination of both cons and libs helps responsibly change America as the world changes around us.  

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the party of trump was/is neither republican nor democrat, trump's political party was and is the party of TRUMP.  A one man party for one purpose, one person's power. 

NO THANK YOU !

 

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.2  cjcold  replied to  Bob Nelson @1    3 weeks ago

Pretty sure that Trump has never thought about the consequences of any statement or action he has ever made. 

Trump was raised and trained in his formative years by the New York mafia.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @1.2    3 weeks ago
Trump was raised and trained in his formative years by the New York mafia.

Got proof?

Or just something you "heard" somewhere at some time from someone over the years?

 
 
 
Ender
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2  Ender    3 weeks ago

I don't think donald liked the job itself as much as he loved the power and being in control.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1  cjcold  replied to  Ender @2    3 weeks ago

And he went insane after realizing that most intelligent folk hated him with a passion.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3  Tessylo    3 weeks ago

It's obvious he never did any work in the four years as 'president'

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3.1  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Tessylo @3    3 weeks ago

I'd say many people would/will disagree.

How trump got stuff done is another story altogether though. 

BTW: Tessylo, the thumbs down is Not mine. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @3.1    3 weeks ago

What thumbs down?

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3.1.2  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Tessylo @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

On my page both of our posts here show a thumbs down as 1

"Collapse this page" 

On my page it doesn't allow me to see any name for thumbs downs "Collapse this page" only thumbs ups. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @3.1.2    3 weeks ago

The collapse simply hides comments in a thread.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3.1.5  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  TᵢG @3.1.4    3 weeks ago

I finally realized that But Thanks.

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1.6  cjcold  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
What thumbs down?

Didn't even know we could do that here. 

I miss the vine.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3.1.7  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  cjcold @3.1.6    3 weeks ago

We cant.

I hadn't been here for years, My mistake. I was mistaken in what I thought was the thumbs down button.   

But collapsing the thread seems about the same. 

Neither was true in what I thought about Tessylo's post. 

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I kinda miss the vine as well. There were many more people on it, But it did go to Hell soon after trump started his run for president.

As trump made insulting fashionable people got meaner, nastier and more and more abusive till the site was out of control and soon was closed.

LOL, I bitched and almost left here because it was monitored until I was helped by others here to understand that monertating these sites is what helps keep them civil enough that people actually want to use them.

Go figure. Newstalkers survived, the vine didn't. 

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.8  Ender  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @3.1.7    3 weeks ago

And to think with all the people there they only had like two or three moderators.

At the end, I think it was only Dave remaining.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4  Kavika     3 weeks ago

IMO, he had no interest in the job but the power is a drug to him.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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4.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Kavika @4    3 weeks ago

I have to agree with Kavika 100%. Once he saw the power of his words on Twitter.... he grew to love the position he never really wanted. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.1  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1    3 weeks ago

Personally Perrie, I don't think trump ever wanted the Job. However he always wanted the power. 

The president does a lot of duties most presidents don't really want to do, they do them because it is expected of our president.

Hell trump wouldn't even allow the peaceful transfer of the power the presidency without trying to overturn the election results any possible way that exists. 

trump never wanted to be president. But, he has always wanted to Rule our country. 

He still does !

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

Trump is a megalomaniac and diseased narcissist.  He wants whatever gets him fame and power.  

 
 
 
Hallux
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6  Hallux    3 weeks ago

Simple abject narcissism ... getting no Press is getting bad Press.

 
 
 
JBB
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7  JBB    3 weeks ago

256

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @7    3 weeks ago

That drawing makes him look too dignified. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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7.1.1  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    3 weeks ago
That drawing makes him look too dignified. 

I agree John.

512

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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7.2  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  JBB @7    3 weeks ago

7.1.1  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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8  Tacos!    3 weeks ago

I really don't think it's that complicated. We all spent the last year watching fired up crowds march on government buildings, block roads, and highways - and yes: do an awful lot of property damage - all to force radical change in the way government does things. Trump decided he would try to get some of that action for his cause.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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8.1  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Tacos! @8    3 weeks ago
Trump decided he would try to get some of that action for his cause.

IMO: trump already had what he did in mind as his trump card for some time. Look back to when this man actually started flying the "The only way I can lose is the election has to be rigged" gambit. 

IMO: this was a genuine effort to take over the power of the presidency by any means at any cost. Why that so hard to see for people to see ?

Doing pretty much anything trump wants to get what trump wants is how trump has operated all of his life.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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8.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @8.1    3 weeks ago
IMO: this was a genuine effort to take over the power of the presidency by any means at any cost. Why that so hard to see for people to see ?

For one thing, if that's what he was going for, it was a pretty shitty effort. In fact, other than get people pumped up, he didn't actually do anything to accomplish that goal. Second, some 60 court cases were filed and I don't know how many direct appeals to election officials were made. You don't put that much effort into legally disputing election results if you're just going to take the throne by force.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
Professor Expert
8.1.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.1    3 weeks ago

The taking of the throne by force was the last ditch effort.......

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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8.1.3  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Tacos! @8.1.1    3 weeks ago
For one thing, if that's what he was going for, it was a pretty shitty effort
TRUE *** IMO: Lack of detailed planning***
In fact, other than get people pumped up, he didn't actually do anything to accomplish that goal.
The mob actually physically by force disrupted the workings of the American  Government. That IS not Nothing, it actually is a huge step towards declaring Martial Law. 
Second, some 60 court cases were filed and I don't know how many direct appeals to election officials were made. You don't put that much effort into legally disputing election results if you're just going to take the throne by force.
I don't think trump wanted to take the throne by force, he was out of time and options though. What other choice did he have ?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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8.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @8.1.3    3 weeks ago
The mob actually physically by force disrupted the workings of the American  Government. That IS not Nothing, it actually is a huge step towards declaring Martial Law.

That's fine; but it's not Trump doing something. I assumed we were talking about Trump's effort.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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8.1.5  author  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Tacos! @8.1.4    3 weeks ago
That's fine; but it's not Trump doing something. I assumed we were talking about Trump's effort.

Looking at the big picture the big picture IS trump's DOING. 

The mob would not have been a mob without trump inviting them there. To think trump had nothing to DO with the timing, place and mood of the crowd seems pretty short sighted at best.

I don't like trump's means and/or ways of accomplishment, so I have carefully watched HOW trump works people, situations, words, the truth, the media and his base. 

In fact I have watched what trump has been DOING as much or more than I have listened to what he says, over and over. 

Actions speak louder than words.  

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
Professor Expert
8.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Tacos! @8    3 weeks ago

The two are vastly different thought Tacos.... One was for personal gain, the other was in a push for civic change.  As far as the property damage...... I didn't like it, but lets also say that there were some involved that didn't have the best interest of BLM in mind starting those fires.

 
 
 
bbl-1
PhD Quiet
9  bbl-1    3 weeks ago

What was the intention of Donald J. Trump?  

Answer:  Same as always.  Self protection and self adulation.

 
 
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