An actual hate crime

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  2 weeks ago  •  80 comments

An actual hate crime
“F–k you, you don’t belong here,” the brute yelled at the woman, according to sources.

I think we finally have evidence of an actual anti-Asian hate crime!  A man brutally beat an Asian woman on her way to church in NYC on Monday morning — as a security guard in a nearby building watched and did absolutely nothing to help. (according to film footage of the incident.)

The unidentified culprit spewed anti-Asian statements as he punched and kicked the 65-year-old woman on West 43rd Street near Ninth Avenue at about 11:40 a.m.


Here is the film:





The suspect:

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If you recognize this man please call the NYPD.

I'll be waiting for the condemnation I fully expect from Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and all those Asian-American organizations we recently heard from after the well publicized non -Asian hate crimes in GA. You think I may be wasting my time?  There is not going to be any comments?  You mean MSNBC and/or CNN won't bother covering this clear case of an anti Asian-American hate crime?  What about the Washington Post?  This happened in broad daylight in NYC. Surely the New York Times will put it on page 1 as an anti Asian-American hate crime?

The answer will be no. The problem is this all too accurately defines an anti Asian-American hate crime.





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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

It's 8:30 AM in the Big Apple. A hate crime has been committed and nobody seems to care.


Trump and his supporters are off topic.
So called "white supremacists" are off topic.
The Senate Minority Leader is off topic.
and I am off topic.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago

Since you're off topic I guess it's not possible to be critical of your sarcasm.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    2 weeks ago

Correct.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

However, am  I allowed to say that on a couple of articles previously posted on NT about the Georgia spa murders I posted my opinion that not only were they NOT hate crimes, but the motive had nothing to do with the race of the victims, and I thought that making a big "hate crime" deal out of it trivialized the many ACTUAL anti-Asian hate crimes that have been happening.  

 
 
 
devangelical
PhD Principal
1.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.2    2 weeks ago

we wouldn't be reading this if the crime hadn't involved a "thug".

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.2    2 weeks ago

Yes you did. Let me commend you for that now.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.1.3    2 weeks ago

You are reading it here because you haven't read it elsewhere.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
1.1.6  Thrawn 31  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

CNN had it up at least an hour ago.

 
 
 
Veronica
Junior Guide
1.1.7  Veronica  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.2    2 weeks ago

OMG - aren't you feeling so blessed right now - you were commended......

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
1.1.8  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Veronica @1.1.7    2 weeks ago

No, but other conservatives are not so tolerant, and I consider that it would bode well for your country to reduce divisiveness rather than increase it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.8    2 weeks ago

Thank you, my friend.

 
 
 
Veronica
Junior Guide
1.1.10  Veronica  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.8    2 weeks ago

Yeah - I have tried & been swatted down, so now it is swat before being swatted.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago

Posted last night to Yahoo News at 10:25 PM EST

Asian woman on way to church attacked physically and verbally

Mon, March 29, 2021, 10:25 PM

Asian woman on way to church attacked physically and verbally (yahoo.com)

Same video.

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
1.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @1.2    2 weeks ago

Actually today's news is that two of the the building's staff have been suspended and

is looking for a 3rd party vendor or delivery person who also ignored the attack and failed to render aid.

Staff that watched attack on Asian woman in Midtown suspended (nypost.com)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @1.2    2 weeks ago

And Yahoo is still not part of the news organizations I mentioned.


Btw MSNBC has been using most of it's daytime hours covering the Derek Chauvin Trial. You know, the case where the jury must find Chauvin guilty of intentional murder. I suppose that's the comfort food for it's viewers.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.2    2 weeks ago

SO WHAT?  THEY'RE POSTING THE STORY, ALONG WITH CNN, AND MSNBC, WHO YOU SAID WOULDN'T AIR IT!

ALSO, CHAUVIN DID INTENTIONALLY MURDER GEORGE FLOYD!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

"I think we finally have evidence of an actual anti-Asian hate crime!"

So the 150% rise in Anti-Asian assaults since someone called it the Wuhan Virus and the Kung Flu - you haven't seen any evidence of hate crimes until this incident???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2    2 weeks ago

Who specifically defined the 150% rise in Anti-Asian hate crime?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3    2 weeks ago

So it all goes back to an organization called "Stop AAPI Hate?"

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 weeks ago

No.  Just some facts for you.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

The answer is clearly YES and you provided the evidence. 

Actual Anti-Asian crimes don't quite have the right narrative, but anyone who is interested in that very old problem is welcome to offer some solutions.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

This old problem has increased 150% since because why????????????????????????????????????

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.3    2 weeks ago

Sorry, those stats did not come from a government entity.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    2 weeks ago

So?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.5    2 weeks ago
So?

So - I reject them.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    2 weeks ago
"So - I reject them."

Of course you do!

So you reject the truth then.

Got it!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

Here's some more facts for you

See all these sources showing the 150% rise in incidents?

How will you deny them now?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4    2 weeks ago

All go back to the same source, as I've pointed out already. Let us not cover the same ground.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    2 weeks ago

No, they do not all go back to the same source.  You needed to see that it is not one source claiming 150% rise in hate crimes against Asian and Pacific Islanders, there are MANY SOURCES.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.1    2 weeks ago
there are MANY SOURCES.  

How about the great FBI:

"Using 2019  FBI statistics  — the most recently available data — I computed black and white perpetrators of hate crimes as a percentage of men 18 to 44 years old in their populations. The black rate was 40 percent, 76 percent and 303 percent higher than the white rate for hate crimes against the Asian/Pacific Island, Latino and LGBTQ communities respectively. Even more troubling, black rates for  hate-crime assaults  were 94 percent higher while for property destruction and vandalism, they were 14 percent lower than white rates. 

Evidence from Los Angeles verifies the limited reach of white supremacist actions, particularly with regards to violent crimes and those perpetrated against Asian/Pacific Island, Latino, or LGBQT communities. Its Human Rights Commission  found:

‘After declining for two years, white supremacist crimes…accounted for 22 percent of all [2019] hate crimes. Seven out of 10 white supremacist crimes involved vandalism and more than half targeted persons from the Jewish community.’

Disproportionate black behaviors extended to all violent crimes. For 2019,  black arrests  per male for murders and all violent crimes were, respectively, 4.94 and 2.73 times white arrests per male. And these numbers are before the unprecedented 2020 homicide spike.

In this environment, young black men are more likely to be exposed to an oppositional street culture; one that not only endorses violence as means of conflict resolution but contributes to a social environment where gun violence is common. The everyday occurrence of violence was documented by Ta-Nehisi Coates. In the first pages of his memoir  The Beautiful Struggle  he noted that five percent of the young people living in Baltimore’s poorest areas (‘1 in 21’) were killed annually."


 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    2 weeks ago

"How about the FBI?"
How about them?

Why are you using statistics from 2019??????????????????????????????????????  This is 2021

Also, I'm not talking about black folks committing hate/crimes against Asian and Pacific Islanders.  I'm talking about the 150% rise in hate/crimes against Asian and Pacific Islanders.  Why do you go off topic all the time on your own seeds?

spectator.us is not a 'government entity'

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Junior Silent
4.1.4  SteevieGee  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    2 weeks ago

Is that based on arrest data Vic?  I only ask because whites have a much better chance of  getting away with stuff. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  SteevieGee @4.1.4    2 weeks ago
Is that based on arrest data Vic? 

Arrest data is what counts.


I only ask because whites have a much better chance of  getting away with stuff. 

Spoken like Barak Obama himself. Sorry Barak, there is a major problem with the culture of violence in the inner city neighborhoods. Face it!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.5    2 weeks ago

Gee, talk about living in the past!

That's President Barack Obama

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

What are the chances that conservatives would highlight this particular story if the perp was not black?  

A number less than zero perhaps?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5    2 weeks ago

The point John, is to show you the devious nature of the Anti-Asian hate crime narrative. Two weeks ago people here were trying to use the random GA killings as an example.

As far as black on Asian hate crimes go, that story is well known.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    2 weeks ago

There is no 'narrative'.  There has been a 150% rise in hate/crimes against Asian and Pacific Islanders since you know who said you know what

There were no 'random' GA killings.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
PhD Quiet
5.2  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @5    2 weeks ago
A number less than zero perhaps?

Whatever number is equivalent to the Planck Length .  So, not zero, but as close as you can physically get.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Senior Quiet
5.3  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @5    2 weeks ago

What are the chances of the left, Democrats, and left wing media ignoring it because both the perps shown are African American? Definitely a number is greater than 100 percent. Just like every other time it happened.

The only time the left give a shit is when it is someone that is white; or someone they can cast as white; doing the hate crime. Otherwise it just becomes another statistic in their cause to bash conservatives.

The left needs to stop the racism and hate in their own back yard first.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
5.3.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Ronin2 @5.3    2 weeks ago

Chances are zero since I have already seen the story on CNN over an hour before I read it here.

As usual you are completely full of shit and always trying to make everything a politics jab at the left. [deleted]

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.3.1    2 weeks ago

He also left out 'leftist brown shirts'

 
 
 
Texan1211
PhD Principal
5.3.3  Texan1211  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.3.1    2 weeks ago
removed for context

Why do you feel the need to get all personal?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.3.4  Tessylo  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.3.1    2 weeks ago

Spot on!

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
5.3.5  Thrawn 31  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3.3    2 weeks ago

Calling it like I see it.  Block me if you don’t like it.

 
 
 
Kathleen
PhD Principal
6  Kathleen    2 weeks ago

I don't care what race you are, this was brutal and the sad part was that one one helped. 

People are just rotten.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kathleen @6    2 weeks ago
People are just rotten.

A sad state of affairs in American society and for NYC in particular, going back to the Kitty Genovese killing in 1964.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
6.2  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Kathleen @6    2 weeks ago

Agreed all around Kathleen. If I had been a witness to that shit, I'd have tried to do or say something. I may be small, but I don't care. I would never be able to sit idly by.

 
 
 
Kathleen
PhD Principal
6.2.1  Kathleen  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @6.2    2 weeks ago

Yes!! The guy just closed the door, what a POS. I would be yelling and calling 911. I would have to do something....

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @6.2    2 weeks ago

That's what bothers me the most about this. That guy standing there doing nothing to help her. Then the other guy walking over to casually shut the door while she is still rolling around on the sidewalk. Neither one of these "tough guys" came to her aid or even tried to call the police.

I hope they get charged with depraved indifference

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
6.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.2    2 weeks ago

They were suspended.  see 1.2.1

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.2.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @6.2.3    2 weeks ago

Thank-you. I hadn't seen your comments. I'm glad they were suspended.

 
 
 
JaneDoe
Sophomore Silent
6.3  JaneDoe  replied to  Kathleen @6    2 weeks ago
the sad part was that one one helped.

100% agree! I saw another video this morning of an attack on a packed subway. A bunch of people just watching, some taking video. It’s disgusting!! I’m embarrassed of what we are becoming.

If you can stomach it, the video is linked below.

 
 
 
Kathleen
PhD Principal
6.3.1  Kathleen  replied to  JaneDoe @6.3    2 weeks ago

That was hard to watch too. Some people are real scum. As my mom use to say. They did not come from “ good stock” meaning well behaved and have good moral standards. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
Senior Guide
6.3.2  Sunshine  replied to  JaneDoe @6.3    2 weeks ago

wtf, sad what some have become.  I guess to a point I can understand not wanting to get harmed themselves by getting involved, but I couldn't just do nothing.  

 
 
 
JaneDoe
Sophomore Silent
6.3.3  JaneDoe  replied to  Sunshine @6.3.2    2 weeks ago
I can understand not wanting to get harmed themselves by getting involved, but I couldn't just do nothing.  

Me either. I couldn’t live with myself. In the video I shared there are so many people on that subway. If only one person would have taken the first step to stop it, I believe others would have too. Strength in numbers!

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
6.3.4  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  JaneDoe @6.3    2 weeks ago

Quite frankly... I'm glad that I live in MI, where I can legally conceal carry. That shit doesn't go down around here because people are afraid of being shot by a good Samaritan defending someone that needs to be defended.

 
 
 
Kathleen
PhD Principal
6.3.5  Kathleen  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @6.3.4    2 weeks ago

That’s right... you could protect yourself. Shoot him in the kneecaps. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
PhD Principal
6.3.6  Kathleen  replied to  JaneDoe @6.3.3    2 weeks ago

Cowards, or worst yet, agreeing with the loser beating him.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
6.3.7  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Kathleen @6.3.5    2 weeks ago

Is that a short joke?

I'm just kidding. But yes, kneecap his ass; however, it's better to aim for an ass cheek... more surface area.

 
 
 
Kathleen
PhD Principal
6.3.8  Kathleen  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @6.3.7    2 weeks ago

I heard that really hurts to be shot at in the kneecaps.  He deserves it!

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MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
6.3.9  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Kathleen @6.3.8    2 weeks ago

I'd imagine that being shot anywhere would be quite painful.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

“F–k you, you don’t belong here,” the brute yelled at the woman, according to sources.

That's as good as 'allegedly'

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Epilogue:

After hearing from some of our progressive friends imply "racism" because a black American was shown to have committed a clear cut hate crime, it may be time for a lesson on racism.

"Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser deleted a tweet providing tips on how to prevent auto thefts after she received intense backlash for it being “tone deaf” in the wake of a deadly alleged carjacking of an Uber Eats delivery driver."



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DC Mayor Muriel Bowser, who encouraged months of "Defund the Police" riots in DC last year, responded to the murder of UberEats driver Mohammad Anwar by 13- and 15-year-old female carjackers with a shockingly tone-deaf (i'd say racist) message of how to prevent auto thefts in her city.


The crime on film:




The world is stunned, but the real racists grin and tell Uber drivers to be more careful.

That ends todays lesson on "hate crimes."

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    2 weeks ago

Which has what to do with the 150% rise in ACTUAL hate/crimes against Asians and Pacific Islanders?

 
 
 
r.t..b...
Masters Participates
8.1.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Tessylo @8.1    2 weeks ago

Some would rather cite the anecdotal, (and not dismissing those crimes) while simultaneously poo-pooing the verifiable data of widespread, systemic instances of racially based violence...just to shoehorn those particular instances to fit an obviously skewed narrative. 
Disingenuous at best. 

 
 
 
JBB
PhD Principal
9  JBB    2 weeks ago

Race and culture are certainly motivators of hate and ultimately violence in America. Persons of good will always try to mitigate and to tamp down upon the primitive impulses some feel against their others!

Then there are forces of evil who would instead use such opportunities to stoke more racial intolerance. 

Who gains from gleefully reporting this hate crime?

The "HaHaHa" aspect to this presentation is telling!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
10  Perrie Halpern R.A.    2 weeks ago
You mean MSNBC and/or CNN won't bother covering this clear case of an anti Asian-American hate crime? 

It was heavily covered by NY NBC, so I am not sure why you would have that idea.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10    2 weeks ago

I'm sure local stations covered it. As for MSNBC and CNN, it simply does not fit their narrative.

 
 
 
Texan1211
PhD Principal
10.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1    2 weeks ago

For something interesting, Google "CNN story on Asian woman attacked in NYC" and then Google the same for MSNBC.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.1    2 weeks ago
Asian woman attacked in NYC"

Very interesting. I'm sure others have tried it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.2    2 weeks ago

I thought you said only local news in NY city was covering this?

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
Freshman Silent
10.1.4  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.1    2 weeks ago

I googled both and it comes up with a link for a CNN article and a link for NBC News.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1    2 weeks ago

"As for MSNBC and CNN, it simply does not fit their narrative."

That's not true (gee, what a shocker).  It's been covered on CNN.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
Sophomore Principal
10.1.6  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1    2 weeks ago

Not only did MSNBC report the story, they played the video, showed a photo of the alleged perpetrator and the Black Democratic Congressional leader being interviewed, Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, called the attack "disgusting".

I guess that does not fit the fraudulent right wing narrative.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
10.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10    2 weeks ago

CNN covered it as well. That is where I first saw it.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
11  Thrawn 31    2 weeks ago

Saw this on CNN, what a dick, hope he is found and arrested.

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
12  Ender    2 weeks ago

WTF.

Why are you trying to diminish what happened to the woman. Why are you trying to allude to it being a Black thing.

It is just more proof that yes, these attacks are real.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
13  Buzz of the Orient    2 weeks ago

The video of the attack on the 65 year old woman was shown here, and not only was it horrifying to watch as he kicked her to the ground then continually kicked her, even kicking her in the head, but I was ALSO disgusted by seeing the security guard not only just watch, but actually close the store door rather than go to help the woman.  With what is going on in the USA, I sure as hell don't want to be mistaken to be an American here. 

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
13.1  Ender  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13    2 weeks ago

Sickening isn't it. At least I read that the doorman was under suspension and review.

 
 
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