The Left's ‘Save Democracy!’ talk was always just cover for ‘Elect Democrats’

  

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Via:  magicschoolbusdropout  •  2 weeks ago  •  28 comments

By:   Timothy P. Carney

The Left's ‘Save Democracy!’ talk was always just cover for ‘Elect Democrats’
Again and again, for a decade, Pelosi has argued that electing Republicans ends democracy. The only answer is a one-party state.

The "Democrats" are all about faking "Fear" amongst "Democratic Voters" !

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Nancy Pelosi just spend half a million dollars to defeat a rare Republican who dared called out Donald Trump’s election conspiracy theories. Her Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee spent big to make sure conspiracy theorist John Gibbs became the Republican nominee in Michigan's third congressional district.

This is not the way you behave if you believe that conspiracy-theorizing Republicans are a profound threat. No, this is the way you behave if you cynically believe it is worth risking empowering conspiracy theorists in order to increase Democrats’ election chances.

Pelosi might sincerely believe that the only way to save democracy is to elect Democrats. She was saying such things long before Donald Trump entered the scene and made election-fraud conspiracy theories the norm.

“Our democracy is on the ballot” was Pelosi’s slogan for the 2012 election, when Mitt Romney was the leader of the Republican Party.

Again and again, for a decade, Pelosi has argued that electing Republicans ends democracy. The only answer is a one-party state.

We should take her at face value and understand that her party’s claims to be “saving democracy” are nothing more than standard partisanship cast in particularly cynical terms — terms that academia and the media largely buy into.

It’s cynical, because it is an effort to declare Republicans not merely wrong or harmful, but illegitimate. It’s an attempt to declare all conservative or GOP positions beyond the boundaries of permissible debate.

As I  wrote  in January, “Democrats’ 2022 strategy is to declare that Republicans’ positions and candidates are not merely opposing positions and candidates but are in fact attacks on democracy itself.”


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magicschoolbusdropout
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1  seeder  magicschoolbusdropout    2 weeks ago

"It's pure partisanship, aimed not merely at winning elections, but at giving the government, the media, and academia an excuse to drop any pretense of impartiality."

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
2  Sean Treacy    2 weeks ago

Democrats spent more money on a tv campaign for Gibbs  than he was able to raise in total on his own.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Freshman Expert
2.1  seeder  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    2 weeks ago
Democrats spent more money on a tv campaign for Gibbs 

But that's not an insurrection by Manipulating an Election........ snicker

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
3  Texan1211    2 weeks ago

Democrats are well known for drama and fear mongering.

This is just another example of it.

With all the doomsday scenarios dreamt up by Democrats, our democracy would have been long gone by now if there was a shred of truth to their pathetic claims.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
4  Dismayed Patriot    2 weeks ago
This is not the way you behave

Republicans lost any right to claim the moral high road when it comes to playing politics when they sat on Garlands nomination for a year proclaiming it wouldn't be right to let a lame duck President seat a supreme court justice in the last year of their Presidency and then forced ACB through themselves just weeks before the Presidential election.

Democrats did some political calculus on this and who knows, maybe it will pay off, maybe it will seat another conspiracy theory believing right wing nut job in congress. If he does win he'll likely be right at home with the other insane right wing conspiracy theorist Republicans already there like MTG, Boebert and Gohmert. It will still just show how right wing conservative Republicans really are, these are their chosen representatives. Democrats didn't force the Republicans to choose him in their primary, they simply ran some ads that trashed his opponent. Should we blame the Democrats for that choice of picking their opponent in the general or do we blame the gullible Republicans who apparently watched the ads and chose their brand of crazy?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    2 weeks ago

We get it. Democrats support people who they claim are threats to democracy.  Party over country. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    2 weeks ago
Democrats support people who they claim are threats to democracy.

Which Democrats voted for this nut job in the Republican primary?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

Which Democrats voted for this nut job in the Republican primary

Impossible to know.  But we know Democrats  provided the bulk of his financial support and gave him a platform.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
4.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.1    2 weeks ago
Which Democrats voted for this nut job in the Republican primary?

Votes are private but we know which Dem groups provided campaign money and ran a commercial for him.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.2    2 weeks ago

ridiculous.

the only people responsible for any candidate winning are the ones who voted for him/her

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    2 weeks ago
ridiculous.

Exactly, everyone except for those running our political parties know that campaign cash and advertising is combat ineffective and just wastes the money of those donating.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.5    2 weeks ago

This argument that Democrats are responsible for right wing extremists winning Republican primaries is one of the funniest things I ever heard. 

A candidate wins by getting votes, not by getting publicity. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.6    2 weeks ago
A candidate wins by getting votes, not by getting publicity. 

Did I confuse you, I agreed with you, exactly.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.1.8  Ronin2  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

Seems you don't know that Michigan has open primaries- you can vote in either primary no questions asked. Considering that Democrats had incumbents running unopposed in at all the top positions- how many do you think crossed over to vote in the Republican primary for the candidate they thought would be easiest to beat?

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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4.2  seeder  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    2 weeks ago
Republicans lost any right to claim the moral high road when it comes to playing politics when they sat on Garlands nomination for a year proclaiming it wouldn't be right to let a lame duck President seat a supreme court justice in the last year of their Presidency and then forced ACB through themselves just weeks before the Presidential election.

That was called "Politics as usual", nothing "immoral" there....right ?

Not the Republicans fault the "Democrats" sucked at getting someone through to the Supreme Court they wanted !

Like President Obama Said: “elections have consequences,” and, in case there was any doubt, “I won.”

Sucks huh !

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @4.2    2 weeks ago
That was called "Politics as usual", nothing "immoral" there....right ?

Democrats will probably still be whining about that for centuries to come.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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4.2.2  seeder  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.1    2 weeks ago
Democrats will probably still be whining about that for centuries to come.

Their usual Battle Cry: "By the power of Greyskull........ I have the powerrr (repetitive and vague, the power to do what, exactly?), but it's all about delivery"! 

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.3  Ronin2  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    2 weeks ago

Democrats lost any right to the moral high ground long before that. Pick a Republican Supreme Court nominee; any Republican Supreme Court nominee- and then look at the vile shit Democrats put them through.  Merrick Garland didn't deserve to be on the Supreme Court, period. He deserves to be impeached for being the most partisan AG ever.

Hopefully Democrats will get exactly what they damn well deserve and Gibbs and Dixon will win.

Republicans in Michigan need to end open primaries. Too many dishonest Democrats in the state willing to take advantage of it.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    2 weeks ago
Republicans lost any right to claim the moral high road when it comes to playing politics…

Exactly, whatabout…

 
 
 
TedK
Freshman Silent
5  TedK    2 weeks ago

Republicans may be right on this one.  It could be the first time. Russia is solely dependent on fossil fuels and when that runs out in 893 years they will become a poor Isolated country.

I don't get enough credit for authoring the green new deal in my manifesto. I saw this coming and tried to stop it. 

 
 
 
Lucifer Morningstar
Professor Guide
6  Lucifer Morningstar    2 weeks ago

The Dems save democracy hoax was always  just a cover for a we wanna become Marxist authoritarians and control everything and punish the opposition with systemic CCP like machinations. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
6.1  bbl-1  replied to  Lucifer Morningstar @6    2 weeks ago

Sure.  And the GOPERS demand forced birth while shoveling more wealth into the upper economic tiers as they propose flooding the nation with weapons.  Authoritarians?  Yeah well, Orban spent the day with Trump and the pair of them are going to the CPAC thing.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @6.1    2 weeks ago
And the GOPERS demand forced birth

Wrong!

shoveling more wealth into the upper economic tiers

Another wrong!

as they propose flooding the nation with weapons. 

0 for 3. Not good.

Authoritarians?

Nope!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
7  Buzz of the Orient    2 weeks ago

Maybe Pelosi and Americans generally should put more effort into "saving Democracy" at home than they put into pushing it elsewhere in the world. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8  bbl-1    2 weeks ago

Blame the dems for this, accuse the dems for that.  What ever.  Still better than the autocratic leaning, wink at Putin, welcoming Orban at the CPAC, new GOP tumor that has infested America's Constitutional Republic.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
8.1  Ronin2  replied to  bbl-1 @8    2 weeks ago

Single party rule pro CCCP Democrats. 

Democrats suck. They have single handedly wrecked this country in two short years. Of course they take no responsibility for anything they did.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.1.1  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @8.1    2 weeks ago

Where are you that everything is way worse now? Except for transitory inflation that was baked into the books by lavish tax cuts and Covid spending, we are way better off now than we were in 2020! The end of Trump's years were miserable times! Outside of Russia  the rest of the world is rapidly recovering. Prices are even going down for gas and housing. We are at full employment and built up consumer demand is driving the economy and the stock market back up. Life is GOOD!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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8.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @8.1.1    2 weeks ago
Except for transitory inflation that was baked into the books by lavish tax cuts and Covid spending, we are way better off now than we were in 2020!

Obviously seen through "orange man bad" glasses.

The end of Trump's years were miserable times! 

Yes, they end of Trump's years IS miserable times thanks to the "but he isn't Trump" idiot voters.

Outside of Russia  the rest of the world is rapidly recovering. Prices are even going down for gas and housing.

The rise in prices for gas has YET to be counteracted. We are still at LEAST a dollar higher than they were when Trump left office. As  for housing, THAT my friend is total bullshit. Have a co-worker that is moving due to the fact that her rent has gone up 20% over the last year. And to purchase a home?? Surely you jest

We are at full employment and built up consumer demand is driving the economy and the stock market back up.

Yep that GDP figure of minus point nine percent backs you up fully......................../S

 
 

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