The democrat's rendezvous with reality / AKA Election Day

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  3 weeks ago  •  737 comments

The democrat's rendezvous with reality / AKA Election Day
“Well, listen, a lot of the actual campaigns on the ground were focusing on the economy, but you’re correct, I think there was this kind of fool’s gold, this idea that the threat to democracy is so severe in the wake of this insurrection and wake of these election deniers possibly grabbing control of the government, that that was something that you had to talk about,” Jones said.

Link to quote: ‘Fool’s Gold’: Van Jones Said Democrats Foolishly Thought Talking About Threat To Democracy Would Work | The Daily Caller


Welcome to Election Day. The American people have waited a long time. The first polls will be closing at 7:PM this evening.


Will it be a big red wave?

On the Senate side, it will only be a few seats one way or the other. In the House it will be substantial. The GOP also can expect to pick up some unlikely new Governors. We will learn much from this election. How far off is the polling? Polling, for whatever reason, has undercut Republicans for the past decade. The demographics will also tell us a story. Recently the WSJ conducted a poll showing that suburban women were breaking for Republicans. Other polls indicate that Hispanics are beginning to trend in the same direction. What about voters in the inner city?  The New York Governor's race will give us part of the answer. Crime became an important issue in this election. The economy is at the forefront of all issues.

The media, which has lost all of its credibility is already raising questions about the election. The New York Times recently claimed that the Russian botts are back. Those damn Russians who only get involved in elections that democrats seem destined to lose! Stacey Abrams, who is down by about 8 points in her second bid for Governor of Georgia, claims that black men are being misinformed. It seems that so many are easily led via the internet! Nancy Pelosi has already indicated that she may retire now that she is sure to be humiliated as minority leader in the House. Her excuse was the attack on her husband. Meanwhile the radical DOJ will be monitoring elections in 24 states.

Tonight, is the night that the American people get to take their country back.

What does one wear to "the end of democracy?"


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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

I will follow the election here.

The party begins tonight at 8:PM

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago

Happy circle jerk.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    3 weeks ago

No sir, happy pity party to you!

Let the festivities begin!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    3 weeks ago

That's really all they are.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

We'll find out tonight, won't we?

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    3 weeks ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.4    3 weeks ago

I meant comment 1.1 as to who will be participating in the festivities.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.5    3 weeks ago

I have no idea what you meant.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.1.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.6    3 weeks ago

Who knows what she really meant but I’m sure that it was something nice.  Just yesterday she wrote, “I am saying be more polite to people and you will foster better conversations.”

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

That may just be the secret to better conversations. We got an example of that in post 1.1.2

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

I know you'll be participating in the festivities as well that will be going on in 1.1

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.9    3 weeks ago

I'm still not sure what you mean.

Could you be a little more specific?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.1.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.8    3 weeks ago

Perhaps she feels that consistency is overrated.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.11    3 weeks ago

I'm not the topic of the seed.  Why are you all violating the CoC?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.12    3 weeks ago

It's about polite conversations. Isn't that what you want?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.1.15  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.12    3 weeks ago
I'm not the topic of the seed

No, your not, but then, neither is Vic 1.1.2 and 1.1.4

Why are you all violating the CoC?

I'm not, I replied to your comments and tried to be complementary in 1.1.7

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.14    3 weeks ago

Ya!  That's your intent as well I'm sure.

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.15    3 weeks ago

That's 'you're'

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.18  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.6    3 weeks ago

Few do .....

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.19  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.12    3 weeks ago

Neither are people who vote up posts.

Why are you violating CoC?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.20  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.17    3 weeks ago
That's 'you're'

Your punctuation needs work.

It’s a fail.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.1.21  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.17    3 weeks ago

I least you got one thing right.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.22  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    3 weeks ago
Let the festivities begin!

LOL

 
 
 
Gsquared
Senior Expert
1.1.23  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    3 weeks ago
happy pity party

No, we're not feeling any pity for all those rethuglican losers.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago

I will most likely join you. It is 9:53 AM here on the AZ border. I voted about a hour ago. I already have my popcorn ready to pop and my soda in the fridge. I look forward to a memorable evening.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

For my Republican & Independent friends:

Polls are open! Make sure to vote today, and bring a friend or two with you.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Participates
2.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    3 weeks ago
Polls are open! Make sure to vote today, and bring a friend or two with you.

A group of us met at our voting place at 7:30AM today. No lines or delays. Then, off to breakfast to support our local diner. Election Day 2022 is off to a good start!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.1    3 weeks ago

Amen brother!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

"Pennsylvania Democratic Senate candidate John Fetterman's campaign is suing the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to count undated and misdated absentee ballots."




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If this man loses, I can think of a lot of "monster" roles available in horror movies that he could fit into nicely. He may have a whole new career available to him.

It's too bad his supporters don't know how to follow simple directions on dating a ballot.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
3.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    3 weeks ago
"Pennsylvania Democratic Senate candidate John Fetterman's campaign is suing the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to count undated and misdated absentee ballots."

Democrats looking to circumvent the rules.  Pathetic.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1    3 weeks ago

That's exactly right. Fetterman has hired Marc Elias for the lawsuit. The state has offered a remedy, in which ballots can be corrected in a timely fashion, but what Fetterman & Elias are arguing is that the law itself should be ignored.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
3.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
what Fetterman & Elias are arguing is that the law itself should be ignored.

That's no surprise.  They know that they don't stand a chance with the law enforced.  

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1    3 weeks ago

"Democrats looking to circumvent the rules. Pathetic."

SOP for the Democrat Party lately.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.3    3 weeks ago

What's going on with the machines in Maricopa County?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    3 weeks ago
What's going on with the machines in Maricopa County?  

This:

Officials said that at the affected voting centers, one out of every five ballots is not going through the tabulator. 

In short, they are experiencing mechanical failures in 40 of their 223 voting centers.   This means that the entire election process there will be under scrutiny.   So, for the conspiracy nuts out there, that means that any attempt to 'rig' this election in this county is basically screwed.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.6  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.5    3 weeks ago

didn't they decertify all the machines there from the last election because the trump conspiracy nuts tampered with them?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
3.1.7  Greg Jones  replied to  devangelical @3.1.6    3 weeks ago

NO!

 
 
 
dennissmith
Freshman Silent
3.1.8  dennissmith  replied to  devangelical @3.1.6    3 weeks ago

The answer to your question is NO. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Participates
3.2  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    3 weeks ago
It's too bad his supporters don't know how to follow simple directions on dating a ballot.

I learned how to accurately print or write month, date, year starting in 2nd grade. We had to include it at the top of each of our homework papers and essays. If we didn't do it correctly, the teacher deducted points off our grade.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
3.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2    3 weeks ago

They only have trouble with days that end in “Y.”

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2    3 weeks ago

So it's not like directions to assemble furniture?

If I failed to do it, five Nuns would probably rise from their graves to use a ruler on me!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
3.2.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2    3 weeks ago
I learned how to accurately print or write month, date, year starting in 2nd grade.

Apparently, that is harder or more cumbersome than producing an ID.  Many other countries write date, month, year and some year, month, date, maybe that's what's causing a problem for these voters.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.3    3 weeks ago

Maybe we'll have a poll on the average IQ of the Fetterman supporters.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Participates
3.2.5  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.4    3 weeks ago
Maybe we'll have a poll on the average IQ of the Fetterman supporters.

If they vote for him, they obviously haven't researched Fetterman's anti-American, anti-fracking, anti-cop, pro-abortion until the moment of birth, pro-convicts policy history before his stroke.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.5    3 weeks ago

In addition to all of that, just take a look at him:

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.6    3 weeks ago

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Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
3.2.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.7    3 weeks ago

Exactly, you would never dwell on someone being overweight, or their hand size or some sort of hair procedure, right?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.9  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.8    3 weeks ago

Big fat steaming piles of shit with itty bitty hands and ludicrous fucking combovers have earned every bit of derision and mockery and scorn coming their way.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
3.2.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.9    3 weeks ago

Bed carefulm of swimming in shallow, superficial waters.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.9    3 weeks ago

Is that a sample of polite conversation?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.11    3 weeks ago

I don't mock people with actual disabilities or those overcoming a stroke, etc., etc., etc., etc.

#45 doesn't have any physical disabilities.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.12    3 weeks ago
I don't mock people with actual disabilities or those overcoming a stroke, etc., etc., etc., etc.

I was commenting on him before his stroke.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Participates
3.2.14  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.6    3 weeks ago

Notice how his hoodie is always carefully positioned to conceal the massive growth on the back of his neck? Along with specific cardiological, cognitive, and neurological data testing, his "political donor" doctor never mentioned the growth in his "medical report".

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.14    3 weeks ago

Fortunately neither Fetterman, his donor/doctor, nor his medical report will be of any interest to anyone after tonight.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.16  Tessylo  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.14    3 weeks ago

Thank you Dr. Jasper for your medical report!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.17  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.13    3 weeks ago

And mocking him after the stroke.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
3.3  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    3 weeks ago

Yep, kiddie parties ..... he could pull off Darth Vader or even The Predator.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @3.3    3 weeks ago

They are planning a remake of "The Hunchback of Notre Dame."

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
3.3.2  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.1    3 weeks ago

Lol .... dude .... that’s just not right.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3.3  Tessylo  replied to  Sparty On @3.3.2    3 weeks ago

Really dude.  I guess some folks here avoid the mirror.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.3.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @3.3.2    3 weeks ago

You are right. I just couldn't help it!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.4    3 weeks ago

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Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
3.3.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.5    3 weeks ago

Have you ever expressed a doubt on these pages?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.3.7  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.3    3 weeks ago

Are you speaking from your own personal experience?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3.8  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.3.7    3 weeks ago

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Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.3.9  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.8    3 weeks ago

Then I guess it's a good thing I'm not a Republican. Nice try but no cigar.jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
3.3.10  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.8    3 weeks ago

Lol .... poor thing.    That quote just illustrates her lack of a higher education.   But she shouldn’t feel too bad.    Few high school graduates slay in that regard.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.3.11  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sparty On @3.3.10    3 weeks ago

I'll bet she lives in Scottsdale or Sedona!

 
 
 
MonsterMash
Sophomore Participates
3.4  MonsterMash  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    3 weeks ago
I can think of a lot of "monster" roles available in horror movies that he could fit into nicely.

Fetterman would be a good Igor in Frankenstein movies. No makeup required.

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squiggy
Junior Quiet
3.4.1  squiggy  replied to  MonsterMash @3.4    3 weeks ago

I kinda wonder about his life expectancy and that gerbil he keeps trying to hide with a hoodie. Can you even get a hoodie with a matching vest and tie?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.4.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  MonsterMash @3.4    3 weeks ago

Only difference was that Marty Feldman was funny and had talent.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Participates
3.4.3  Sunshine  replied to  MonsterMash @3.4    3 weeks ago

Haha

 
 
 
dennissmith
Freshman Silent
3.5  dennissmith  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    3 weeks ago

They are as simple as Fetterman 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    3 weeks ago

He didn't lose though!

How does that crow taste?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.6.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.6    3 weeks ago

“Monday-morning quarterback.” 

Merriam-Webster.com Dictionary , Merriam-Webster, .


"from a fan's usually critical rehashing of the weekend football game strategy"






You and your buddy were as quite as mice before the election,

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.6.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.6.1    3 weeks ago

Did you decide to sleep in after your defeat after your premature declaring of victory yesterday?

Which buddy is that?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.6.3  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @3.6.2    3 weeks ago
Which buddy is that?

... probably the one that actually can spell quiet.

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
4  George    3 weeks ago

Are we taking bets? Senate + 2 house + 38

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @4    3 weeks ago

Oh, that's a nice bet!

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.2  Ronin2  replied to  George @4    3 weeks ago

Hope you are correct.

Wish Republicans had more moderates running against the radical crazies the Democrats put out.

When it comes to radical vs radical I have less confidence on how independents will vote. 

Hopefully anger over inflation, gas prices, the border, illegal immigration, parents vs public schools, and the Covid shutdowns will prevail. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5  Tessylo    3 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5    3 weeks ago

Oh, that sounds like "insurrection!"

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    3 weeks ago

We don't use bullets like the 'right' - we use ballots.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    3 weeks ago

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Ronin2
Professor Quiet
5.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.1    3 weeks ago

Your side uses rioting, Molotov cocktails, concrete milk shakes, arson, looting, and assault.

Fascists everywhere are proud of the US Democrats. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1.3    3 weeks ago

Deflection, as usual, noted.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

"Feehery: Trump Derangement Syndrome dooms Dems"

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No kidding?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

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Snuffy
Masters Guide
7.1  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    3 weeks ago

Right back at ya...   Happy Election Day!!!

And I'm so glad that we will get at least a couple of weeks respite before the commercials start to pound for the 24 election cycle....   (sigh)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Snuffy @7.1    3 weeks ago
And I'm so glad that we will get at least a couple of weeks respite before the commercials start to pound for the 24 election cycle..

Ahh yes, after this we can all take a breather

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
7.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    3 weeks ago

Most of us will. There are some that will jump right into 2024 and their obsession with a certain possible candidate. Won't be much relief from that I fear.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1.2    3 weeks ago

Sad but true.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
Democrats continually focused on the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. They warned about the dangers to democracy. They held hearings. They formed a special committee. They wasted countless hours on MSNBC and CNN.   But the voters didn’t care. They had moved on. 

The voters have "moved on" to the degree that Donald Trump will dominate the party's news for the next two years. 

People like Feehry are in total denial. When history looks back at the 'Trump years" it is not going to blame the people who opposed him, it is going to blame the people who supported him. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8    3 weeks ago

He will fondly be remembered as the founder of MAGA.

It will now be up to Ron DeSantis and Kari Lake to carry the ball forward.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1    3 weeks ago

and the MAGATs

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1    3 weeks ago

Next Tuesday Trump is going to formally announce he is running for the 2024 presidency. What part of that invokes how he will be "remembered"?  He is still your leader, because no one has kicked him out. I feel sorry for De Santis who will be lucky to have a future national political career left after Trump gets done with him. 

Kari Lake is a crank who will never play outside of her Arizona bubble.  Trump succeeded because it was perceived by his fans that he was the only one who could do the job. No one feels that way about Kari Lake. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.2    3 weeks ago
Next Tuesday Trump is going to formally announce he is running for the 2024 presidency.

What will the DOJ do between tomorrow and then?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
8.1.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.2    3 weeks ago

When ballots are all in and counted, read em and weep! I and others will be here laughing our behinds off.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
8.1.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.3    3 weeks ago

Probably be in full blown panic mode.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
8.1.6  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1    3 weeks ago
He will fondly be remembered as the founder of MAGA.

Only by a very small subset of very conservative people.

One term presidents are almost always remembered as failures.  Trump will be defended in vain by a small group of very staunch conservatives, the same way Jimmy Carter is defended in vain by a small group of staunch liberals. 

Most people will acknowledge that if they were actually any good at their job, they would have been re-elected.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jack_TX @8.1.6    3 weeks ago

History will record that the leftist media hung the pandemic on him.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.7    3 weeks ago

No, he ignored it until it was too late.  Nothing to do with a 'leftist media'

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.8    3 weeks ago

No Tessylo, that was the obvious plan right from day 1.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
8.1.10  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.7    3 weeks ago
History will record that the leftist media hung the pandemic on him.

History will not give a shit.  Seriously, do you think that's what they'll be teaching in schools a century from now?    

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jack_TX @8.1.10    3 weeks ago
Seriously, do you think that's what they'll be teaching in schools a century from now? 

Yes. I think that from 2008 until now will be described as the era of the left and hopefully it will be what Trump started that will bring that era to an end.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
8.1.12  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.11    3 weeks ago
Yes. I think that from 2008 until now will be described as the era of the left and hopefully it will be what Trump started that will bring that era to an end.

But nobody is going to be talking about media bias.

If they do describe the last 14 years as an era of the left, the economic numbers are going to make "left" look incredibly good.  In many ways, Barack Obama was far more conservative than Ronald Reagan, so I'm not sure how "left" it's really been.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.9    3 weeks ago

WRONG!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @8.1.4    3 weeks ago
"When ballots are all in and counted, read em and weep! I and others will be here laughing our behinds off."

Are you laughing now Ed?

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Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
8.1.15  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.14    3 weeks ago

It's not over yet.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @8.1.15    3 weeks ago

Of course not!

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Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
8.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @8    3 weeks ago
The voters have "moved on" to the degree that Donald Trump will dominate the party's news for the next two years

Exactly.  The voters have moved on.  Democrats and the left?  Not so much.  You all are so hyper-focused on something that really irrelevant.  Yes, Trump will still be in the news.  Only because those like yourself cannot move on to more important issues.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2    3 weeks ago
  Yes, Trump will still be in the news.  Only because those like yourself cannot move on to more important issues.

Is there something the fuck wrong with you? Trump is running for president !  You dont think that will keep him constantly in the news for the next two years? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
8.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.1    3 weeks ago
Trump is running for president ! 

When was that announcement made?  

You dont think that will keep him constantly in the news for the next two years? 

Your inability to move on will keep him in the news.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.2    3 weeks ago

Last night.

“I'm going to be making a very big announcement on Tuesday, Nov. 15 at Mar-a-Lago," Trump said before a cheering crowd in Vandalia, Ohio, Monday night, where he was holding his final rally of the midterm season to bolster Senate candidate JD Vance.

Trump explained that he wanted “nothing to detract from the importance of tomorrow," even after he had sparked a frantic effort to hold him off after he had told people he was considering officially launching his next campaign Monday night at the rally.

Trump has been increasingly explicit about his plans to seek another term, saying in recent days that he would “very, very, very probably” run again and would be formalizing his intentions “very, very soon." Trump Says He'll Make 'Big Announcement' Nov. 15 in Florida (usnews.com)

Unless someone is dumb enough to think that he would call all the press to Maralago to announce that he is NOT running. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.3    3 weeks ago
Trump has been increasingly explicit about his plans to seek another term

Ya, he's crafty that way.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
8.2.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.3    3 weeks ago
“I'm going to be making a very big announcement on Tuesday, Nov. 15 at Mar-a-Lago,"

So an announcement HASN'T been made and you are running off "what ifs", fiction.  Getting your "pre-freak out" on.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
8.2.6  Sparty On  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.2    3 weeks ago

He lives In perpetuity in some minds.    Permanently burned into their ROM chip 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
8.2.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sparty On @8.2.6    3 weeks ago

Their ROM chip fried years ago.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @8.2.6    3 weeks ago

I've never seen such incredible fear of a man running for office!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
8.2.9  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.8    3 weeks ago

Yep, it is by definition, derangement.    And it all started when he beat their chosen one.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @8.2.9    3 weeks ago
Yep, it is by definition, derangement.

I don't know if you have noticed, but they are also developing a similar hatred for Elon Musk.


And it all started when he beat their chosen one.

There is no doubt about it...that election took them by surprise!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.2.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.8    3 weeks ago

I've never seen such ass sucking. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
8.2.12  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.10    3 weeks ago

Yep and Musk is owning them just as thoroughly.

Very enjoyable to watch .....

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
8.2.13  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.11    3 weeks ago
I've never seen such ass sucking. 

I've never watched ass sucking.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.11    3 weeks ago

Not since 2008?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @8.2.12    3 weeks ago

He told people to vote Republican and he has them screaming at the sky!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
8.2.16  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.11    3 weeks ago

Don’t let the TDS get the best of you today John.    Take it like a man and hope Republican’s screw it up just as bad as Dems did the last four years.

I give that a 50-50 chance unfortunately.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.2.17  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.2.13    3 weeks ago

Lately

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
8.2.18  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.8    3 weeks ago

And that's the thing.  He isn't on a single ballot anywhere in the country.  And they are freaking terrified.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.18    3 weeks ago

It may be best not to mention his name tomorrow. They won't be in a very good mood.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
8.2.20  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.19    3 weeks ago
It may be best not to mention his name tomorrow.

You could probably broadcast his name all over the country.  It won't be heard over all the crying and whining.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.2.21  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.2.13    3 weeks ago
I've never seen such ass sucking. 
I've never watched ass sucking.

Its a metaphor. My bad, I didnt mean to stump you. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.22  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.20    3 weeks ago
It won't be heard over all the crying and whining.

I'm worried about rioting

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
8.2.23  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.22    3 weeks ago

I'm honestly surprised they haven't already started.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
8.2.24  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.21    3 weeks ago
Its a metaphor. My bad, I didn't mean to stump you.

Maybe more hyperbole than metaphor.  Interesting choice, nevertheless.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2.25  devangelical  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.2.13    3 weeks ago
I've never watched ass sucking.

try leaving the bifocals on next time...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
8.2.26  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @8.2.25    3 weeks ago
Bifocals?

No, I’ve been a progressive lens guy for years.

 
 
 
dennissmith
Freshman Silent
8.2.27  dennissmith  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.3    3 weeks ago

Trump, Trump, Trump, have you nothing else to talk about?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
8.3  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @8    3 weeks ago
When history looks back at the 'Trump years" it is not going to blame the people who opposed him, it is going to blame the people who supported him. 

History will look back at the Trump years the way it now looks back at the Nixon years, with no thought whatsoever given to supporters.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @8.3    3 weeks ago

Never once have you been right about Trump. After he announces his 2024 candidacy next week you will still be saying he's old news. Give up already. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.3.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jack_TX @8.3    3 weeks ago

Only if progressives get to write it.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
8.3.3  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3.1    3 weeks ago
Give up already. 

Yes.  Give up already.  Move on with your life.  

You have been screaming into the sky for years now about how every single thing Donald Trump does represents the end of civilization as we know it.  Yet here we stand.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.3.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @8.3.3    3 weeks ago

You have never been right about Trump, on anything.  It is what it is. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
8.3.5  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3.4    3 weeks ago
You have never been right about Trump, on anything. 

No John, I have been right.  You just can't admit it, because you are too personally invested in Trump-phobia.

I've said all along that his influence will wane with every day that passes.  Turns out even liberal-leaning media outlets now recognize that has happened.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.3.6  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @8.3.4    3 weeks ago

Correct, absolutely never.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

"We may not know all the winners of elections for a few days… That’s how this is supposed to work.”

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"White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre was blasted Monday for saying that waiting a couple of days for results is   how elections are "supposed to work." 

"We may not know all the winners of elections for a few days. It takes time to count all legitimate ballots in a legal and orderly manner," Jean-Pierre told reporters at the White House press briefing. "That's how this is supposed to work."

Twitter exploded as commentators on the platform expressed their dismay that many states can no longer tally all the ballots they receive by the end of election day itself."

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
9.1  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    3 weeks ago

Translation, we won’t know how many votes we need to “find” after the polls close to steal the election.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  George @9.1    3 weeks ago

Like #45 in Georgia?  How many votes did he tell them to find?

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
9.1.2  George  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.1    3 weeks ago

How many votes did they find for the loser? Zero? Proving unlike their democrat friends, republicans have integrity.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
9.1.3  JBB  replied to  George @9.1    3 weeks ago

No, her plain meaning is that all legal voters matter and all legal votes will be counted, even if it takes a little longer than tonight...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  George @9.1.2    3 weeks ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  George @9.1.2    3 weeks ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
9.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @9.1.3    3 weeks ago

Then explain 3 above.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @9.1    3 weeks ago

Exactly. Why don't they count all the votes at the same time or count the election day ballots last?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    3 weeks ago

Republicans used to love mail in voting, then the other party started using it too and the Republicans began attacking it. Why? Because Donald Trump told them to. 

No one can point to any actual cases of voter fraud through mail in voting, the cartoonish 2000 Mules not withstanding. 

Trump has ALWAYS intended to claim that he was cheated (if he lost). He was going to do it in 2016 but didnt have to. So how would he be able to frame this "cheating"?  He settled on mail in voting as the patsy. So he told his minions that mail in voting was unfair to them, and told them not to use it. So they no longer use it even though Republicans had always used mail in voting (in the states that had it) before. 

It all makes you wonder if people can even think anymore. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.2    3 weeks ago
Republicans used to love mail in voting, then the other party started using it too and the Republicans began attacking it.

That's a lot of nonsense. Mail-in-voting once had a purpose. It was for seniors, the handicapped and the military. It has become widespread and it only benefits one party: democrats. Why is that?

Answer: democrats have an enthusiasm problem. They have many who vote along party lines based on things other than issues, which means they don't always get off their asses to go out to the polling stations. Thus, a ballot delivered to them insures their vote.


No one can point to any actual cases of voter fraud through mail in voting, the cartoonish 2000 Mules not withstanding. 

A famous study warned that it makes fraud easy.




Trump has ALWAYS intended to claim that he was cheated (if he lost). 

Many more democrats have made the same argument. Big deal.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.1    3 weeks ago

I explained it to you, exactly.  It is your problem if you cannot accept the truth. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.1    3 weeks ago

How do you explain then the states that have majorly voted by mail, majorly republican, prior to Co-Vid and your nonsense?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.2.2    3 weeks ago

Remember what Keats said about "truth."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @9.2.3    3 weeks ago
How do you explain then the states that have majorly voted by mail, majorly republican, prior to Co-Vid and your nonsense?

Give me an example

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
9.2.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.1    3 weeks ago
That's a lot of nonsense. Mail-in-voting once had a purpose. It was for seniors, the handicapped and the military. It has become widespread and it only benefits one party: democrats. Why is that? Answer: democrats have an enthusiasm problem.
They have many who vote along party lines based on things other than issues, which means they don't always get off their asses to go out to the polling stations. Thus, a ballot delivered to them insures their vote.

And that is the honest truth right there.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.2.6    3 weeks ago

It had to be said.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
9.2.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @9.2.3    3 weeks ago
How do you explain then the states that have majorly voted by mail, majorly republican,

Name them.............................I think you will find that statement is full of shit.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2.9  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.2.8    3 weeks ago

No, the statement is not full of shit.

It's #45 and his enablers/supporters.

It's truth no matter how you want to deny it.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
9.2.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @9.2.9    3 weeks ago

Look at the link. The statement is full of shit and your deflection and denial are noted.

1 red out of 8

California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah (I'll give you that ONE), Vermont, and Washington

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
9.2.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.2.10    3 weeks ago
Look at the link.

You know that's never going to happen.  You stand a better chance of Biden saying something actually coherent.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.2.10    3 weeks ago

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrFRoWsb2pjHEER3hVXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZANMT0NVSTA1M18xBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1667948588/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fusafacts.org%2farticles%2fvoting-by-mail-and-covid-19%2f/RK=2/RS=.xngX5NmGVrayW_Z.Yv4_8MGGt8-

In recent elections, voting methods have varied by geographic region. In 2018, seven western states—Arizona, California, Colorado, Montana, Oregon, Utah, and Washington—reported by-mail voting as the most-used voting method, with over 50% of ballots cast by mail. Three of those states—Colorado, Oregon, and Washington—conducted statewide by-mail voting, sending ballots to all registered voters in the state. The seven majority-vote-by-mail voting states accounted for 65% of the nation’s by-mail ballots in 2018.

Meanwhile, six states—Arkansas, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas—reported early voting as the majority voting method during the midterm election. In the remaining 37 states plus Washington, DC, in-person Election Day voting was the primary voting method in 2018.

I'm just posting an excerpt here - but for the truth - SEE MY LINK.  

I'm not the one full of shit here.

Plus, I give you NOTHING.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2.13  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.2.10    3 weeks ago

Plus, I never deflected or denied.

That's y'all.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2.14  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.2.8    3 weeks ago

Plus I never stated ALL MAIL ELECTIONS

Stop making stuff up.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @9.2.14    3 weeks ago

 States With All-Mail Elections

That's what I never stated.

Again, stop making stuff up.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
9.2.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @9.2.12    3 weeks ago

Your excerpt does NOT refute what I said about your "majorly Republican" commentary. In fact, it belies what you posted still. And early voting was NOT brought up. Has nothing to do with mail in. Way to move the goalposts. Sorry but that would be a fail.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2.17  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.2.16    3 weeks ago

It most certainly does and I never said anything about states that ONLY HAD MAIL IN VOTING.

That was you.

You have failed, as usual.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
9.2.18  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @9.2.14    3 weeks ago

Majorly voted by mail is what your post said. And that's what you meant trying to prove that Vic's posit was wrong. It is there for all to see.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2.19  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.2.18    3 weeks ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2.20  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.2.18    3 weeks ago

I guess you never get tired of losing.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
9.2.21  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.2.10    3 weeks ago

To some folks, any that do not vote on the "D" side of the ballot are automatically all Trump supporters/enablers and are fair game if you do not share their particular political world view. There is no middle ground or compromise. It is their way or not at all.

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
Junior Expert
9.2.22  Nowhere Man  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.2.10    3 weeks ago
Look at the link. The statement is full of shit and your deflection and denial are noted.

1 red out of 8

California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah (I'll give you that ONE), Vermont, and Washington

And Washington has had mostly democrats win by 70% majorities since, and those that are close enough to recount get recounted into democrat victories by elimination of ballots where the election peeps claim the voters intent isn't clear....

Paper ballots are the worst way to elect someone ever devised, they are insecure and unreliable.... (and on top of it they are counted by computer where several studies showed that computers cannot be secured sufficiently to ensure accurate voting totals, That's why we don't have computer voting over the internet)

WE had the most secure system in the world, and overthrew that for a system that is historically frought with fraud and abuse worldwide.... And it's why democrats love them...

I don't trust elections in this country anymore...

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
9.2.23  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.1    3 weeks ago

I remember back in the early 70's when I was in the Navy stationed overseas and mailed in my ballot. I had it returned to me opened with a noticed stamped on the front that said "Return to sender. Address incorrect." Funny thing is it was a pre printed envelope!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.24  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @9.2.23    3 weeks ago

Now you know what happened.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
9.2.25  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.24    3 weeks ago

Pretty much, but then again back then there was lot of anti military sentiment anyway.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.26  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @9.2.25    3 weeks ago

I think that was outrageous.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
9.2.27  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @9.2.25    3 weeks ago

I always wondered if my military mailed ballot was counted back then.  I think that states tended to set them aside and only count them when the general ballot count was very close.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
9.2.28  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @9.2.13    3 weeks ago

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dennissmith
Freshman Silent
9.2.29  dennissmith  replied to  Tessylo @9.2.15    3 weeks ago

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dennissmith
Freshman Silent
9.2.30  dennissmith  replied to  Tessylo @9.2.19    3 weeks ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2.31  Tessylo  replied to  Nowhere Man @9.2.22    3 weeks ago
"I don't trust elections in this country anymore..."

Because you keep losing.

CHUCKLE

How does that crow taste?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
9.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    3 weeks ago
We may not know all the winners of elections for a few days… That’s how this is supposed to work.”

We are actually going back in time. Counting the votes on election day is how its supposed to work and has for decades. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
Masters Guide
9.3.1  Snuffy  replied to  Sean Treacy @9.3    3 weeks ago

With all this modern tech we cannot count ballots quickly?  How in the hell did we ever land on the moon back in 69?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.3.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @9.3.1    3 weeks ago

Trump wants all voting to be on paper ballots. Not very high tech. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.3.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.2    3 weeks ago

And in person!

 
 
 
Snuffy
Masters Guide
9.3.4  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.2    3 weeks ago

Except paper ballots are run thru scanners for counting so that is high tech.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.3.5  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @9.3.4    3 weeks ago

No, it's not high tech.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
Sophomore Participates
9.4  MonsterMash  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    3 weeks ago
"We may not know all the winners of elections for a few days. It takes time to count all legitimate ballots in a legal and orderly manner,"

In other words, we have to figure out how many votes democrats need to control congress

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10  Tessylo    3 weeks ago

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Sparty On
Professor Principal
11  Sparty On    3 weeks ago

Today is the day.

Time to pay the piper.

Hope all y’all are ready .......

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
11.1  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @11    3 weeks ago

The gop alreay has it in the bag. Start celebrating now by day drinking. Party like it is 1992. Please keep gloating and talking shit about Democrats, all day long...

We won't mind. Us Democrats will be out voting!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @11.1    3 weeks ago
Us Democrats will be out voting!

A lot of democrats have voted and you would be surprised to see how they voted.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
11.1.2  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1.1    3 weeks ago

There ya go! That's what I'm talking about!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @11.1.2    3 weeks ago

You bet!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @11.1    3 weeks ago

It won't be for republicans.  As Vic pretends to think.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.4    3 weeks ago
As Vic pretends to think.

Lol...I never pretend to think!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1.5    3 weeks ago

Not one of your strong suits.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
11.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @11.1    3 weeks ago

Don’t be mad that the cuckoo for cocoa puffs progressive agenda is getting it’s just deserts from the electorate today.  

Just get prepared for the pile of horseshit all y’all are going to try to push after your ass whupping.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.6    3 weeks ago

No it isn't. I'm not much for pretense.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
11.1.9  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @11.1.7    3 weeks ago

As I predicted, the Democrats got out and voted while the gop trolled online all day...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @11.1.9    3 weeks ago
As I predicted, the Democrats got out and voted while the gop trolled online all day...

Enough to keep their majorities in the House and Senate?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.10    3 weeks ago

Too close to call.   Surprisingly.    Looks like the GoP could flip both the House and the Senate but if so it will likely be a very slim majority.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
11.1.12  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.10    3 weeks ago

That is not determined yet but the red wave you've been crowing about for two years turned into a ripple in a mud puddle!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @11.1.12    3 weeks ago
That is not determined yet but the red wave you've been crowing about for two years turned into a ripple in a mud puddle!

You predicted multiple times Democrats would hold their majority in both Houses.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.11    3 weeks ago
Too close to call.

Yes, I know how elections work.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.15  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.14    3 weeks ago

You think I was suggesting that you do not know the basics of elections??

My point was encapsulated by "surprisingly".

TiG @11.1.11Surprisingly.    Looks like the GoP could flip both the House and the Senate but if so it will likely be a very slim majority.
 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.15    3 weeks ago
Do you think I was suggesting that you do not know the basics of elections??

Don't know. Don't care.

My point was encapsulated by "surprisingly".

Fantastic.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @11.1.9    3 weeks ago

And it wasn't the massive red tsunami they were predicting AT ALL.  A lot of close races, yes, but not like they have been crowing about for so long now.  How does that crow taste republicans?

Maryland now has a blue Governor, YES!

Also legal marijuana as of July 1, 2023!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, Fetterman beat Oz!!!!!!!!

Again, how is that crow republicans?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.15    3 weeks ago

Some have nothing but whining when they don't get that red tsunami like they were predicting.  Just like jbb said above!

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Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
11.1.19  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.11    3 weeks ago

Any majority is still a majority.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
11.1.20  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.18    3 weeks ago

Lol ....only a liberal could consider an estimated 20-30 seat loss in the house a success. 

Bye bye Nana .... good riddance!

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Participates
11.1.21  Sunshine  replied to  Sparty On @11.1.20    3 weeks ago
Lol ....only a liberal could consider an estimated 20-30 seat loss in the house a success.  Bye bye Nana .... good riddance!

I was thinking the same thing while listening to all the hype about how the Democrats won.

Losing a few Governors to the Dems is not that important as Republicans taking the House and hopefully the Senate.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11.1.22  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @11.1.20    3 weeks ago
Lol ....only a liberal could consider an estimated 20-30 seat loss in the house a success. 

I take it you havent watched any of the election coverage. If the Republicans do take the house it will be by a small handful of seats. It isnt 100% sure yet that they will take it at all. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
11.1.23  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.22    3 weeks ago

I haven’t, I watched enough of it last night.

I’ll check it out today.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.24  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.22    3 weeks ago

Poor sore pathetic losers aren't they?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
11.1.25  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.22    3 weeks ago

We are in rare agreement.

While a handful of Trump picks won, I think he may have cost the Repubs the Senate and a much smaller margin in the House.

In addition to demonstrating his political kingmaking with winning picks, Trump wanted to show the continued power of over 300 endorsements, campaign fundraising and 30 rallies.  He had a big party last not with his anointed ones to celebrate the victories of his followers.  

Not only didn't that happen, but he had some big misses, Oz, Mastriano, Vega in my state, Dan Cox in MD, Majewski in OH, Leavitt in VT and Bolduc in VT.  We probably won't know about Walker until Dec.  

He is obviously distressed at sharing the stage with DeSantis.

The wannabe kingmaker turned out to be more of a jester maker.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
11.1.26  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @11.1.25    3 weeks ago

Did you watch the DeSantis speech last night? The crowd was chanting "Two More Years, Two More Years". Beautiful.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.27  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @11.1.19    3 weeks ago
Any majority is still a majority.

Of course, but that misses the point I made.   The point is that there are fundamental problems with the GoP since they should have been wildly successful given the conditions.   I suggest that the core of the problem is the continued support for Trump.   Hopefully this will trigger the GoP to move away from Trump.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.28  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.26    3 weeks ago

What's beautiful about that?  Sounds like there's a lot of morons in Florida.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
11.1.29  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.28    3 weeks ago

Sounds like there is a lot of love for their Governor to me and they want him to run for PotUS.

What ya got to run against him? Well there is one. I think his name is Jack Shit.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Participates
11.1.30  Sunshine  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.29    3 weeks ago

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Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
11.1.31  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.28    3 weeks ago

Sounds like there's a lot of morons in Florida.

25% were born outside of the continental US.  45% come primarily from NJ, NY, PA, OH, and IL.  Only around 30% are native born.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
11.1.32  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.22    3 weeks ago

A small handful of seats is still a win John.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11.1.33  JohnRussell  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @11.1.32    3 weeks ago

No its not, not when you expected a "red wave". It's like finding out you won 5 dollars in the lottery when you thought you had won 5,000.  Does the 5 dollars still look good? I dont think so. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.34  Texan1211  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @11.1.32    3 weeks ago
A small handful of seats is still a win John.

Yeah, last I checked, a majority is still a majority.

Amazing how that works.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.35  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.34    3 weeks ago

Why, in your analysis, did the size of this majority fall so short of expectations?   What is the reason for it?

Also, would you consider this a mandate?    For example, should an R House pursue impeachment of Biden in support of what the people want?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.36  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.35    3 weeks ago
Why, in your analysis, did the size of this majority fall so short of expectations? 

Whose expectations? 

Also, would you consider this a mandate?

Of course it isn't a mandate.

For example, should an R House pursue impeachment of Biden in support of what the people want?

Seems to me what the majority of Americans want isn't really a factor.  Didn't seem to factor into the Trump impeachments. I don't know if the GOP will impeach Biden. I hope they don't.  Not worth it with Harris as VP currently, and in two years I believe we will have a different President.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.37  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.36    3 weeks ago
Whose expectations? 

You missed all the threats for months of a big GoP win in the midterms??

Of course it isn't a mandate.

Exactly.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.38  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.37    3 weeks ago
You missed all the threats for months of a big GoP win in the midterms??

Threats? Please do elaborate on these alleged threats.

Exactly.

Since I have never claimed a mandate, WTF?????

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.39  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.38    3 weeks ago
Threats? Please do elaborate on these alleged threats.

Amazing  that you have decided to deny that Rs have been sending the "wait until the midterms ..." message for months.   Don't be ridiculous.

Since I have never claimed a mandate, WTF?????

I asked a question.   You answered.   I agreed with your answer.   No need to get emotional ... we agree.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11.1.40  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.37    3 weeks ago

To a degree, I dont blame the right wingers for being defensive this morning. Human beings have that tendency when things go wrong. Had the Republicans won big last night I think we would have seen some pushback from the liberals here. 

Having said that, people who will still try to defend trumpism are out they mind. The majority of the country does not want it. There is already speculation that DeSantis might suddenly become more "moderate". 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.41  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.39    3 weeks ago
Amazing  that you have decided to deny that Rs have been sending the "wait until the midterms ..." message for months.   Don't be ridiculous.

Certainly not amazing you are up to your usual trick, claiming I am doing something I am not.  [deleted]

I asked a question.   You answered.   I agreed with your answer.   No need to get emotional ... we agree.

[deleted]

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.42  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.41    3 weeks ago

You asked me to elaborate on the threat so I did:  threat = "wait until the midterms ...".

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.43  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.42    3 weeks ago
You asked me to elaborate on the threat so I did.   Calm down.

Let me elaborate to clear things up.

You don't need me to debate words you put in my mouth. Debate yourself.

I trust that is clear enough.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.44  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.43    3 weeks ago

Do you understand that the threat = "wait until the midterms ..."?

Do you deny that the "wait until the midterms ..." threat was repeatedly made for months?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.45  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.44    3 weeks ago

Last response to you--sure hope it helps, but I have my doubts.

threat
[THret]
NOUN
  1. a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done:
    "members of her family have received death threats"
    synonyms:
    threatening remark · warning · ultimatum · intimidating remark · commination · menaces · menacing
    • law
      a menace of bodily harm, such as may restrain a person's freedom of action.
  2. a person or thing likely to cause damage or danger:
    "hurricane damage poses a major threat to many coastal communities"
 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.46  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.44    3 weeks ago

Last response to you--sure hope it helps, but I have my doubts.

threat
[THret]
NOUN
  1. a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done:
    "members of her family have received death threats"
    synonyms:
    threatening remark · warning · ultimatum · intimidating remark · commination · menaces · menacing
    • law
      a menace of bodily harm, such as may restrain a person's freedom of action.
  2. a person or thing likely to cause damage or danger:
    "hurricane damage poses a major threat to many coastal communities"
 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.1.47  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.44    3 weeks ago

awww.... he's so disappointed, he's tongue tied and frustrated...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
11.1.48  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.45    3 weeks ago

Wonder what happened to 1.1.46......................

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.49  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.45    3 weeks ago

"wait until the midterms ..." = A statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

Spelling it out for you: 

The "wait until the midterms" threatened what the Rs would do once they achieved control of Congress.    Specifics include impeaching Biden (as I mentioned), blocking attempts to bring Trump to justice, and curtailing the D agenda.

Faux obtuseness is a lame tactic.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.50  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.48    3 weeks ago

My comment posted twice, I deleted one!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
11.1.51  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.50    3 weeks ago

Gotcha. TiG let me know too...............

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.52  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.51    3 weeks ago

No doubt!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.53  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @11.1.47    3 weeks ago

No it's just I know what a threat is!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.1.54  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.53    3 weeks ago

uh-huh...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.55  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.53    3 weeks ago
No it's just I know what a threat is!

You have demonstrated that you do not.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
11.1.56  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.50    3 weeks ago

Let me see if I can get it out of the recycling bin.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
11.1.57  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @11.1.56    3 weeks ago

OK now you can see it was a double posting.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.58  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @11.1.56    3 weeks ago
Let me see if I can get it out of the recycling bin.

Why?

You have just restored the very same post as the one before it.

I was the one who deleted the duplicate post as soon as I noticed it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.59  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @11.1.57    3 weeks ago
OK now you can see it was a double posting.

I knew it all along, and said as much almost an hour ago:

Post 11.1.50

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.60  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.51    3 weeks ago

Say, let's have a debate, Jim!

You are denying Democrats won some races and Republicans lost some races.

Defend yourself!

Remember pre-Trump, when people just debated what one side actually said?

Now we are inundated with lazy, intellectually dishonest folks who think what they do is debating.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.61  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @11.1.54    3 weeks ago
uh-huh...

Finally, you see the light and agree with me.

Ah, progress at last!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.62  Texan1211  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.46    3 weeks ago

Can anyone tell any difference between my two exact statements?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.63  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.60    3 weeks ago

Another lame tactic.   When all else fails claim that your words have been misrepresented.

Have the Rs sent the "wait until the midterms ..." message for months?    Have the Rs used this to connote that when they are back in power the Ds are in trouble?   

Denying the obvious is an act of futility.  You are not going to fool anyone with this profoundly lame ruse.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.64  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.63    3 weeks ago
Last response to you--sure hope it helps, but I have my doubts.

11.1.46

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.65  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.64    3 weeks ago
TiG@11.1.49"wait until the midterms ..." = A statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

Right from the dictionary definition you quoted.   Your futile and intellectually dishonest attempts to put up a smokescreen simply encourages me to keep pushing it aside.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.66  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.65    3 weeks ago
Last response to you--sure hope it helps, but I have my doubts.
11.1.46

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.67  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.29    3 weeks ago

Who cares?  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.68  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.67    3 weeks ago
Who cares?  

probably the person responding some 4 hours later, or why else waste time?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
11.1.69  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.33    3 weeks ago

A win is still a win no matter how you try spin it otherwise, and that just sticks in the craw doesn't it?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
11.1.70  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.33    3 weeks ago

You will be right if the Dems hold the Senate and the House, otherwise it's a loss.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
11.1.71  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.35    3 weeks ago
What is the reason for it?

My opinion, abortion and lost democracy threats carried the day.    Clearly people were less worried record inflation, high food and energy prices, non existent border security, school indoctrination and rampant crime.    I don’t get it but c’est la vie.    We’ll see how they feel when their heating costs go up 30-60% this year.

Also, would you consider this a mandate?

I would ..... considering the house seats that have gone red since the 2020 election.    Two consecutive house elections dominated by Republican gains.    Assuming they gain the house in 2022 that is.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.1.72  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @11.1.71    3 weeks ago

What I took away from it was most incumbents won back their seats.

I agree with someone else (a post somewhere) that what the populace in general wants is more stability.

The crazies on either side didn't do very well.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
11.1.73  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.34    3 weeks ago

Yep, but some folks on the left just don't handle loss very well.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.1.74  devangelical  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @11.1.73    3 weeks ago
some folks on the left just don't handle loss very well.

oh, the irony...

set the wayback machine 2 years for a prime example of political sportsmanship.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

Oprah endorsed Fetterman.....and...who did she endorse here?

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

"President Biden  said Friday that coal plants are too expensive to operate, and "we're going to be shutting these plants down all across America" in order to shift to wind power in a comment that drew criticism from the Republican National Committee."

Biden1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1




 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
14  Mark in Wyoming     3 weeks ago

Just glad I voted early,like last week, knew I would be elk hunting, got her 2 days ago,I'm also remembering tonight is a full moon, will be hard to figure out which barking moon bats are doing all the caterwalling

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @14    3 weeks ago

I hope you sent them a message!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
15  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

Man arrested after Cruz hit with beer can at Astros parade

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devangelical
Professor Principal
15.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @15    3 weeks ago

OMG, look what it did to his face!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
16  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

They are still talking about that speech last night in Ohio

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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
16.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @16    3 weeks ago

Trump needs to learn not to mess with great comedians. Jimmy Kimmel absolutely humiliated him last night. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
16.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @16.1    3 weeks ago

Jimmy Kimmel was on fire last night. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
16.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @16.1.1    3 weeks ago

He'll be even more fired up tomorrow!

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
16.1.3  George  replied to  JohnRussell @16.1.1    3 weeks ago
Jimmy Kimmel was on fire last night. 

I wouldn't piss on Kimmel if he was on fire.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
16.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @16.1    3 weeks ago

Did Kimmel wear black face again, or is that only for special occasions?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
16.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @16.1.4    3 weeks ago

Why do we allow racists like Kimmel on tv?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
16.1.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @16.1.5    3 weeks ago

To compliment Joy Reid???

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
16.1.7  George  replied to  JohnRussell @16.1    3 weeks ago

I'm sure the 10's of people who watch Kimmel enjoyed his show. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
16.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @16.1.6    3 weeks ago

Or do fake news for that matter!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
16.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  George @16.1.3    3 weeks ago
I wouldn't piss on Kimmel if he was on fire.

Perhaps we should be kinder to the major news source for some of our liberal friends.

 
 
 
dennissmith
Freshman Silent
16.1.10  dennissmith  replied to  JohnRussell @16.1    3 weeks ago

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dennissmith
Freshman Silent
16.1.11  dennissmith  replied to  JohnRussell @16.1.1    3 weeks ago

Kimmel is a comedian and nothing else. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
16.1.12  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @16.1.1    3 weeks ago

His best work was done on The Man Show.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
16.1.13  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  dennissmith @16.1.11    3 weeks ago

And not even a very good one lately. I liked him in his early days before he let his politics interfere with his comedy routines.  Read a article earlier where he complained he has lost 50% of his fan base over the years on account of political views, which he blamed on his producers. Kimmel said he was just doing what they told him to do. Uh huh right.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

HERE WE GO AGAIN | MAIL IN BALLOT TAMPERING

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"Veterans and voters represented by the Thomas More Society, a conservative non-profit public interest law firm, filed a lawsuit against the Wisconsin Election Commission for allegedly mishandling military absentee ballots."




Thank you Mr Solomon

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
17.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @17    3 weeks ago

So anytime things don't turn out the way you want, we are going to go to ballot tampering?

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
17.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @17.1    3 weeks ago

So if they were mishandled you want nothing done?

This is the reason we have courts. Don't seem to remember Democrats bitching much about Gore taking every legal avenue in the courts to try and find enough votes in Florida. Nor Gore fighting tooth and nail in the courts to make sure military ballots weren't counted.

 

This is no different. 

So much for election integrity. Seems it only matters when Democrats are challenging it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
17.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @17.1.1    3 weeks ago
So if they were mishandled you want nothing done?

No, she is obviously pointing out that the Trumpesque calls of fraud when votes do not go your way is a loser tactic.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Participates
17.1.3  Sunshine  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @17.1    3 weeks ago
So anytime things don't turn out the way you want, we are going to go to ballot tampering?

His post was 23 hours ago.  I don't think he has a crystal ball.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
17.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Sunshine @17.1.3    3 weeks ago

So where is he now?

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Sunshine
Professor Participates
17.1.5  Sunshine  replied to  Tessylo @17.1.4    3 weeks ago

He is right here providing good commentary and info as usual.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
17.1.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @17.1.4    3 weeks ago

Try the front page. I believe his comments are there............

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
17.1.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @17.1.2    3 weeks ago
So if they were mishandled you want nothing done?
No, she is obviously pointing out that the Trumpesque calls of fraud when votes do not go your way is a loser tactic.

Exactly.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
17.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Sunshine @17.1.5    3 weeks ago

He is right here providing 'good commentary and info' as usual.

That's a matter of opinion.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @17.1    3 weeks ago

That was posted before the election. I would think that you and the 10 that voted up your comment would want military ballots counted.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
17.1.10  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.9    3 weeks ago

Hmmmm allegedly mishandling military absentee ballots?    

One would think this would be at least “concerning” to our friends on the left as well.    Especially any Vets who may have voted comment 17.1 up.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @17.1.2    3 weeks ago

The story was posted before the election!

Btw, it's a game played by all sides.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @17.1.10    3 weeks ago

Interesting, isn't it?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
17.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.12    3 weeks ago

Not really.    

Unfortunately I’m used to it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @17.1.13    3 weeks ago

Do you remember the 2000 election dispute when Al Gore tried to throw out all those military ballots?




Military ballots frightened democrats. I wonder why?


Democrats would later question the legitimacy of the 2000 election:





How soon they forget!



 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
17.1.15  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.14    3 weeks ago

Yeah I remember.    I don’t forget.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
17.1.16  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.14    3 weeks ago

seems impossible for some to climb out of the conspiracy driven alt-media cesspool...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
17.1.17  devangelical  replied to  Sparty On @17.1.15    3 weeks ago

easy fix. just imagine it's a past oath taken to defend the constitution...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
17.1.18  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.11    3 weeks ago
The story was posted before the election!

Yes, you were crying foul before the election.   A tactic popularized by Trump.   Establish doubt in the electoral system and then exploit that doubt if you lose.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17.1.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @17.1.18    3 weeks ago

I submitted two stories. One involved another election disaster by the Arizona election board. They have had two years to get their act straightened out. There is no reason why voters needed to be running around trying and failing to vote on election day, nor is there any reason for the nation to ways days, weeks or months for election results. 

The other story involved something more egregious involving military ballots.


THAT IS WHAT CAUSES DOUBT IN THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
17.1.20  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.19    3 weeks ago
THAT IS WHAT CAUSES DOUBT IN THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM.

No, the doubt is caused by people who engage in conspiracy theories and cry foul on every little blip in the system.    The wave of contemporary doubt was caused by Trump and is perpetuated by those who follow his lead.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17.1.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @17.1.20    3 weeks ago
No, the doubt is caused by people who engage in conspiracy theories and cry foul on every little blip in the system. 

Those are theories, they are facts and certainly not little blips. Election day came and at 9:AM in Arizona they couldn't tabulate votes in 25% of the polling places in one of the biggest counties. Hopefully they will abandon voting machines in Arizona. Paper ballots is what they need. Both Arizona and Nevada have a massive number of uncounted ballots and their no excuse for it!


 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
17.1.22  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @17.1.20    3 weeks ago

Most polling place workers are not professional investigators , statisticians, or authorities on rules, or trained to repair electronic equipment. They are people trying to make a buck while at the same time serving the community for a few days. 

These systems routinely have hiccups and "breakdowns". It has been happening for decades. Routinely on election day. It is only since Trump injected unhinged paranoia into affairs that we have this brouha over vote counting. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17.1.23  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @17.1.22    3 weeks ago

Then let's go to paper ballots.


Florida did it with a much bigger voting population and they did it all within hours. 

Look at California. They no sooner closed the polls and the winners were announced.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
17.1.24  Sparty On  replied to  devangelical @17.1.17    3 weeks ago

The fix even more fundamental than that.

Don’t fuck over the people who volunteered to defend your freedom.

See there .... fixed .... 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
17.1.25  devangelical  replied to  Sparty On @17.1.24    3 weeks ago
Don’t fuck over the people who volunteered to defend your freedom.

that's one of the primary reasons I never vote for republicans...

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
17.1.26  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.23    3 weeks ago

“Then let's go to paper ballots.”

The processes to accept those ballots is still the same, and always done in a bipartisan fashion.

Signature verification, curing discrepancies as required, ballot processing, and adjudication as necessary assures the validity of each ballot.

It is better to be patient in knowing the incredible task at hand and in understanding the myopic microscope these folks are under these daze. 

Get it right the first time and let those that don’t comprehend the complexity either tilt away or even better, choose to become part of the process…the former playing on fear and ignorance, the latter allaying all those fears. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17.1.27  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @17.1.26    3 weeks ago
It is better to be patient

It's better to have votes counted in a timely manner and to be able to know who won before going to bed on election night.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
17.1.28  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.27    3 weeks ago

“…who won before going to bed on election night.”

Lest your popcorn get cold?

Much more important to get it right than to rush, get it wrong, and thus feed the frenzy. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17.1.29  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @17.1.28    3 weeks ago
Much more important to get it right than to rush, get it wrong, and thus feed the frenzy. 

Big states have no problem. Arizona is a joke. Democrats seem to like it.

Why?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
17.1.30  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.27    3 weeks ago

Similar to how we can now securely do our taxes and banking online we should be able to make online voting universal. Then we could know results immediately and voting would be easier for everyone.

Butt, you don't want that! Do you? Do tell.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
17.1.31  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.29    3 weeks ago

Good grief, more conspiracy nonsense.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
17.1.32  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @17.1.30    3 weeks ago
Similar to how we can now securely do our taxes and banking online we should be able to make online voting universal. Then we could know results immediately and voting would be easier for everyone.

Yeah, dude!

No one has ever hacked any government sites or banks!

Ever!!!!

SMMFH

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
17.1.33  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @17.1.22    3 weeks ago

You should have replied to Vic, not me.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
17.1.34  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.21    3 weeks ago

Yeah, Vic, some of the printed paper ballots were printed with too light ink and the mechanical tabulation machines were unable to reliably read them.

People making a big deal about glitches are simply feeding conspiracy theories — a counterproductive, gratuitous endeavor.

This problem, by the way, would not have occurred if the voting was truly automated:   vote data entered on screen sent to database.    No paper involved.    But any glitch in an automated system creates an emotional panic that drives the technically ignorant back to paper, manual and mechanical methods.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
17.1.36  devangelical  replied to    3 weeks ago

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devangelical
Professor Principal
17.1.38  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.29    3 weeks ago
Arizona is a joke.

gee, I wonder why? 'spose the 2020 election had anything to do with that? typical right wing scenario. fuck up the process, then whine about the results while blaming somebody else...

 
 
 
Gsquared
Senior Expert
17.1.39  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.23    3 weeks ago
Look at California. They no sooner closed the polls and the winners were announced.

Some winners were announced by the news media.  The state election officials do not announce winners until all of the votes are counted.  The count is still not completed for many races.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
17.1.41  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @17.1.32    3 weeks ago

As if votes aren't already tabulated and transmitted on vulnerable state systems. As I said, a secure universal national system could be easily be designed with safeguards and backups like we have for banking, investments and taxes already.

Why not?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17.1.42  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @17.1.31    3 weeks ago

Why don't we just arrest anyone who questions anything and have them sent to re-education camps?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
17.1.43  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.42    3 weeks ago

Questioning things is healthy.   What is unhealthy (and counterproductive) is to take minor, ordinary variations from the norm and presume extreme, exaggerated wrongdoing.

Every little blip in elections is now translated by some into a smoking gun of a rigged election.    People need to get a grip.   Trump is a lying narcissist ... nobody should follow his lead.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
17.1.44  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1.19    3 weeks ago
THAT IS WHAT CAUSES

Yep, far right wing propaganda, voter restrictions and lies will do that.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
18  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

"Poll workers at a key voting location in Arizona's Maricopa County announced Tuesday morning that voting machines at a polling station in Anthem are not working. A significant number of ballots are being misread, but election officials claim individuals are still able to cast their ballots properly. "



Who is surprised by this?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
18.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @18    3 weeks ago

I'm not surprised at your tainted sources.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
18.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @18.1    3 weeks ago

A third world situation is now taking place in Arizona.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
18.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @18.1    3 weeks ago

You're free to post a link you trust that disproves this.  We know you won't, but you're always free to.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
18.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Tessylo @18.1    3 weeks ago

LOL. Its 9 o' clock in the morning in Arizona and the crackpots are already laying their groundwork to create chaos if they lose. 

I hope all you both siders out there are happy about how fucked we are. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
18.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @18.1.3    3 weeks ago

The lines in Maricopa are insane this morning. This is one poll in Scottsdale at 9am

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