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Compassionate "Guidance"

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  6 years ago  •  225 comments


Compassionate "Guidance"
"The Department changed the rules again on November 2 when they provided last-second guidance directing counties to provide information to help voters whose mail-in or absentee ballots were incorrectly completed so those voters could vote on a provisional ballot," Corman and Scarnati wrote in a joint statement.

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Another strange thing happened in Pennsylvania during it's long convoluted election process. It seems that Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar (That's the homely woman in the picture) advised that a voter whose mail-in ballot was rejected would be eligible to vote in-person with a provisional ballot on Election Day as a way to "cure" their ballot. Unfortunately, PA's democrat officials keep forgetting PA's election laws.

Now, GOP Pennsylvania Rep. Mike Kelly, state General Assembly candidate Joseph Hamm and four other plaintiffs are suing Boockvar over her so called "guidance."

According to the lawsuit, the counties of Berks, Carbon, Blair, Clinton, Dauphin, Lancaster, Lycoming and Perry ultimately declined to implement the guidance. The suit argues that individuals who submitted rejected mail-in ballots shouldn't have been given provisional ballots this past Tuesday.

All of this is in addition to the fact that the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania disregarded the election laws of the PA State Legislature in granting PA 3 days after election day to receive ballots.

Pennsylvania Senate Majority Leader Jake Corman and Senate President Pro Tempore Joe Scarnati have called for Boockvar's resignation.

I'm guessing she doesn't!


P.S.


They don't like people watching their poll workers





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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

This is a developing story

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    6 years ago

What is?  Homelessness? Certainly your comment about a woman's  Homeliness can't be a topic, right?

Of course it's just an opinion different from yours, right?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @1.1    6 years ago

You bet!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    6 years ago

Developing into what? Ha Ha Ha. 

It's over Vic . Concentrate on making your Trump 2024 yard signs. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2    6 years ago
Developing into what?

Another story of what progressives are capable of.


It's over Vic .

I agree.


Concentrate on making your Trump 2024 yard signs. 

We shall see.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

Here's what the compassionate guidance and "curing" looked like in Georgia:

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Split Personality
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2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    6 years ago

Sounds like an off topic comment, what else would you like to include?


They don't like people watching their poll workers

Another half truth?

A local judge on Friday rejected an effort by the Trump campaign to send poll watchers to voting sites in Philadelphia, ruling that the campaign's attempted poll-watching isn't allowed under state law.

The ruling from Judge Gary Glazer was a victory for Philadelphia officials and a loss for the Trump campaign. The dispute revolved around "satellite election offices," where election officials register voters, process applications for mail-in ballots,and allow voters to fill out and submit their mail ballots.
The Trump campaign sent unauthorized poll watchers into some of these locations last month, but they were kicked out by local officials. President Donald Trump used this incident to spread false claims about anti-Trump bias at the polls, saying at last week's debate that "bad things happen in Philadelphia."
The Trump campaign argued in court that these sites are tantamount to Election Day polling places, and therefore its poll watchers should be allowed. The bipartisan Philadelphia City Commission said that while some ballots are being cast in the "satellite" locations, they don't qualify as polling places under state laws that allow for partisan poll watchers. The judge on Friday sided with the city officials.
Another BS story with a grain of truth?  Mitt Romney received zero votes in 59 districts of Philadelphia in 2012. 
They were actually 59 "divisions" out of the 1,700 divisions of the 66 Wards in Philadelphia.  Investigated and proven that those very inner city areas had about  10 Republicans per division, most of whom had moved out, died or did not know they were registered as GOP.
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @2.1    6 years ago
Sounds like an off topic comment, what else would you like to include?

Anything that suits me. Thems the rules!


Unfortunately judges can't cherry pick which state laws they want to uphold. The PA Supreme Court had no right to circumvent the PA legislature in granting votes to be accepted after the election. 

You don't like it when others run to the courts. Interesting!

As for Philadelphia's history of fraud, it is legendary. Perhaps we need only go back a few months:



Some day one of you may contradict me.....So far nobody has come close.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    6 years ago
The PA Supreme Court had no right to circumvent the PA legislature in granting votes to be accepted after the election. 

I trust they know the PA law better than you or Fox News.

You don't like it when others run to the courts. Interesting!

please don't confuse me with any of your other admirers...

Some day one of you may contradict me.....So far nobody has come close.

Only in your own opinion.

Speaking of homeliness & conspiracies, what ever happened to John Durham & Billy Barr?

Andy McCabe's indictment?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    6 years ago
The PA Supreme Court had no right to circumvent the PA legislature in granting votes to be accepted after the election.

Incidentally. Did you know that all of those "extended deadline" votes have been quarantined and not counted yet?

As for Philadelphia's history of fraud, it is legendary.

That's frigging hilarious.  Someone from the Boston area criticizing Philly for corruption?  LMAO

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.2    6 years ago
I trust they know the PA law better than you or Fox News.

We are going to find out, because if you recall, the issue came before the Supreme Court twice. The first time it got kicked back in a 4-4 tie, but the second time, which was on the merits of the PA Courts authority, the Supreme Court said there was not enough time before the election to decide it and as you know when it comes back there will be a full Court making John Roberts totally irrelevant!

please don't confuse me 

I'll try not to. You always make it so personal.


what ever happened to John Durham & Billy Barr?

It seems they don't believe in releasing reports during an election. It's called integrity. I'll do an article on it one day - just for you!


Andy McCabe's indictment?

Andy McCabe had a criminal referral, which the AG declined to prosecute. I never predicted they would. Is that another piece of BS from your side?

I know you all want to ignore it & pretend it didn't happen but former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith, who worked on Robert Mueller's Special Counsel investigation plead guilty to felony charges of making false statements. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.3    6 years ago
Did you know that all of those "extended deadline" votes have been quarantined and not counted yet?

Yup. They may go right into the barrel. They are in defiance of State Election Law.


That's frigging hilarious.  Someone from the Boston area criticizing Philly for corruption?  LMAO

The truth stings, but only for a little while.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.3    6 years ago
Incidentally. Did you know that all of those "extended deadline" votes have been quarantined and not counted yet?

And they Goddamned well better not be.............ever. How many weeks/months did the electorate have to send in mail ins? You damned right. No excuse for not having them in, ANYDAMNEDWHERE, by midnight 11-3. None

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Split Personality
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2.1.7  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    6 years ago
You always make it so personal.

Right back at you.  But you are more prone to label entire groups as vile animals, etc.

I never predicted they would.

I am pretty sure you did but you like to make broad vague predictions like this gem from 10/18/19

2.3.9   author  Vic Eldred   replied to  JohnRussell @ 2.3.7     an hour ago

Prepare yourself for the shock

I think you better prepare - for the coming election and it's many consequences for the democratic party. Stay tuned John. There are many surprises on the way and you aren't going to like any one of them!

That's why I never make predictions...

Is that another piece of BS from your side?

I don't speak for any side, that's your shtick.

I know you all want to ignore it & pretend it didn't happen but f ormer FBI lawyer  Kevin Clinesmith , who worked on Robert Mueller's Special Counsel investigation plead guilty to felony charges of making false statements. 

More successful than 8 Benghazi witch hunts, eh?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.8  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.6    6 years ago

 

JJ please don't be upset, it's just an election.

( great pic, lol )

 
 
 
Ender
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2.1.9  Ender  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.6    6 years ago

That pic is actually funny...Haha

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.7    6 years ago
But you are more prone to label entire groups as vile animals, etc.

Only progressives.


I am pretty sure you did but you like to make broad vague predictions like this gem from 10/18/19

There were a few surprises don't you think?

It was a lot closer than any of you thought.
The polls were way off - again
The GOP managed to preserve it's lead despite having so many Republican seats at stake. (Next time it will be democrats at risk)
The GOP actually flipped democrat House seats
Florida proved itself to be a reliable GOP base of support
More minorities voted our way than last time
The GOP elected a lot of women to the House

Is that enough surprises?   I think I did fairly good in A territory!


I don't speak for any side, that's your shtick.

LMAO


More successful than 8 Benghazi witch hunts, eh?

You are comparing that to the media and the fucking FBI running with a lie?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.1.11  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.10    6 years ago
Only progressives.

Define progressives, please. I don't call anyone vial animals unless they actually do something vile.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.11    6 years ago

I'm going to give you my unique definition. I drew the line between the old liberal and modern progressive with the Vietnam protests. To me that was the beginning of the progressive movement that originated on the college campus of the late 60's.

It is they who think America was inherently racist from it's beginnings.

It is they who think the Courts should legislate when they can't win elections.

It is they who condone intimidation & violence to achieve their ends

It is they who want to change the Constitution

It is they who introduced & promoted identity politics.

Do you get the idea?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.1.13  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.12    6 years ago
It is they who think America was inherently racist from it's beginnings.

Um, Vic, it specifically allowed enslavement of black people and committed genocide against Native Americans.  You don't think there's a tiny bit of racism there?

Courts legislate?  You seem to have a problem with courts interpreting.

Intimidation and violence - like boxing in a campaign bus on a highway?  Like threatening a vote counting center in Pennsylvania.

Change the Constitution?  What's inherently vile about that?  It was meant to be changeable.  It's written that way, intentionally.

Basically, you seem to think it's ok to call people "vile animals" because they disagree with you politically.  You complain about people making things personal, but feel compelled to attack the looks of a woman doing her job.  Such comments come across as both personal and misogynistic.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.13    6 years ago
Um, Vic, it specifically allowed enslavement of black people and committed genocide against Native Americans.  You don't think there's a tiny bit of racism there?

In its Declaration of Independence the new nation laid out it's principles that it eventually lived up to. You forget that this nation began as a Colony, where slavery was accepted in many places. It was this unique country that defeated the institution of slavery and today is the least racist place on earth.


Courts legislate?  You seem to have a problem with courts interpreting.

You are in denial. Roe v Wade was legislation without any Constitutional precedence. Don't bother reading the majority opinion. Even RBG knew it was Bull Shit.


Intimidation and violence - like boxing in a campaign bus on a highway?  Like threatening a vote counting center in Pennsylvania.

Like the year of violence this nation endured in democrat run cities. Antifa and BLM are domestic terrorists and should be classified as such and anyone who denies the violence and mayhem they are responsible for is complicit.


Change the Constitution?  What's inherently vile about that?  It was meant to be changeable.  It's written that way, intentionally.

Through Amendments and as this last election demonstrates, progressives don't have the support of the people to do that. They want those 3 rotten Justices who alwys vote together to do it for them. 


Basically, you seem to think it's ok to call people "vile animals" because they disagree with you politically. 

I call them that because they have proved it over and over.


You complain about people making things personal, but feel compelled to attack the looks of a woman doing her job.

If you were the least bit open minded you would be able to see that she is a partisan official trying to control a state election.


Such comments come across as both personal and misogynistic.

And your comments come across as partisan & misandrist

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.1.15  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.14    6 years ago

The DoI set forth principles that were not embodied by the Constitution, which is an actual governing document.

Roe v. Wade was not legislation.  It was an interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment.

You ignore the violence from your own side, but decry the violence from the other side.  That is hypocritical.

You specifically said progressives want to change the Constitution, without specifying the method, and as we've established that you think progressives are "vile animals", I assume you think changing the Constitution is a bad thing.  You should really take that up with the framers.

Where in my comment have I attacked a man?  If you're going to accuse me of misandry, back up that claim.  BTW, recognizing misogyny in comments is not misandry.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.12    6 years ago
It is they who think America was inherently racist from it's beginnings.
It is they who think the Courts should legislate when they can't win elections.
It is they who condone intimidation & violence to achieve their ends
It is they who want to change the Constitution
It is they who introduced & promoted identity politics.
The Mayflower landed in 1620. The first African slaves landed in 1620. It is true that the people who landed the Mayflower in New England are different people than the ones in Virginia who brought the first slaves, but its all in the same ballpark. America was racist from the beginning, although I would agree it is a little more complicated than that. 
The Courts should use the Constitution as a guide.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.14    6 years ago
ou complain about people making things personal, but feel compelled to attack the looks of a woman doing her job.If you were the least bit open minded you would be able to see that she is a partisan official trying to control a state election.

What does her partisanship have to do with her looks?

You found an opportunity to attack a "vile progressive" and didn't blink an eye

 
 
 
Sunshine
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2.1.18  Sunshine  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.14    6 years ago
And your comments come across as partisan & misandrist

You got that right.  Trump supporters have been called vile and the most disgusting words on this very site and are allowed to stand.

Yet the panties get in a wad over this...give us a break with the hypocrisy.  

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.1.19  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sunshine @2.1.18    6 years ago

Point out any misandry, or you're just supporting a dishonest and unfounded accusation.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.15    6 years ago
The DoI set forth principles that were not embodied by the Constitution, which is an actual governing document.

It took time and blood but it was eventually embodied in the Constitution. We should be proud of it. Most Americans are proud.


 It was an interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment.

Based on what?


You ignore the violence from your own side, but decry the violence from the other side.  That is hypocritical.

No it's not. You have a problem with proportions.


You specifically said progressives want to change the Constitution, without specifying the method,

I did specify - by judicial activism.


and as we've established that you think progressives are "vile animals"

Yes, I believe we have.


 I assume you think changing the Constitution is a bad thing.  

If you read what I said - it's by Constitutional Amendment, not by progressive whim.


Where in my comment have I attacked a man? 

You called me misogynistic and it's not the first time. Don't bother claiming that you were only referring to the comment. That's a game around here.


BTW, recognizing misogyny in comments is not misandry.

If they are false claims they most certainly are misandry. Like I said - It's not your first time either. That's another thing about progressives they have to smear those they disagree with or should I say hate?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.21  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.20    6 years ago

When you start calling the other side animals, you have already lost any credibility

to continue arguing.

Your no better than POTUS saying our passed and living vets were/are suckers and losers.

Isn't it time to lock or delete this embarrassing baring of your true feelings?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.22  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.21    6 years ago

Here! Here!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.23  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.20    6 years ago
Such comments come across as both personal and misogynistic.

That is what Sandy wrote. IF...IF she had called you a misogynist she would have gotten a real CoC ticket, however, all she was point out that the things you SAY are misogynistic.

Adjective vs noun. Learn the difference

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.24  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.20    6 years ago
Don't bother claiming that you were only referring to the comment. That's a game around here.

And that's the game you play looking to find players for your side that will pat you on the back and whisper in your ear about those mean women.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.26  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.21    6 years ago
Your no better than POTUS saying our passed and living vets were/are suckers and losers.

He never said that. I know that Biden likes quoting it. The New York Times put that up based on unknown sources. Real people denied it. That story ran on social media even though there wasn't an ounce of evidence. NT allowed it here even though there wasn't an ounce of evidence.

So I guess that is a further demonstration of why I feel the way I do.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.1.27  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.14    6 years ago
Like the year of violence this nation endured in democrat run cities. Antifa and BLM are domestic terrorists and should be classified as such and anyone who denies the violence and mayhem they are responsible for is complicit.

There has been plenty of terrorism and intimidation done by those in the Trump camp. How about this video? You claim BLM members are violent? How about these Trumpers reacting to just a BLM sticker on a car.

Dated Nov 2, 2020

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.1.28  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.20    6 years ago
It took time and blood

Why is that?  If it were not inherently racist from the start, it wouldn't have taken any time at all, nor any blood.  You're arguing against your own premise.  One can be proud of the progress we've made without doing one's best to forget that there was ever a need for that progress.

Based on what?

Their duty to interpret the Constitution, which you don't want changed.

I did specify - by judicial activism.

Not in your original comment, to which I replied.  These were your words:

It is they who want to change the Constitution You called memisogynistic and it's not the first time. Don't bother claiming that you were only referring to the comment.

You really need to learn to tell the difference between your comments and your self.  Your comment was misogynistic.  If you don't want to be told your comments are misogynistic, don't make misogynistic comments.  We "professional divas" will call them out.

Nobody insulted you on the basis of your sex.  That's what misandry is.  You DO know that, right, and aren't attempting to pass off your own definition of the term?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.29  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.27    6 years ago

Sorry Perrie, that comparison you are trying to make is like comparing the number of goldfish in a bowl to the catch of Haddock just landed at the Boston Fish Pier.


 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.30  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.28    6 years ago
Why is that?

Because the preceding centuries was not made up of abolitionists. Slavery was accepted practice at the time of the colonies. Don't they teach that, Sandy?


Their duty to interpret the Constitution

They stated a right of "privacy" Where is it in the Constitution?  Not that such a "right" would apply!


 We "professional divas" will call them out.

You are a self described "feminist."  As in one who believes all women must subscribe to a liberal agenda.


Nobody insulted you on the basis of your sex. 

The term misogynistic is just that.

You can have the last word now, so that I can put this to rest.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.1.31  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.30    6 years ago
Because the preceding centuries was not made up of abolitionists. Slavery was accepted practice at the time of the colonies.

So, it was inherently racist.  Unless one wants to change the definition of "racism".  Yes, I recognize that it was accepted at the time.  I also recognize that some of our Founding Fathers had misgivings over the enslavement of blacks, so it was hardly unheard of to be...not racist.  Didn't they teach that?  But there were laws based on race, and continued to be laws based on race, for centuries.

Not that such a"right"would apply!

Of course it does.  It's why I can't have access to your medical records.  Women have the same right to medical privacy that you do.

As in one who believes all women must subscribe to a liberal agenda.

Yes, I am a feminist, but stop putting words in my mouth about my beliefs regarding other women.  It's dishonest.

The term misogynistic is just that.

So, yes, making up your own definition of "misandry".  Standing up to misogyny is misandry.  That explains a lot. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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3  Jasper2529    6 years ago

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Split Personality
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3.1  Split Personality  replied to  Jasper2529 @3    6 years ago

Or a national law that everyone must vote ( like Canada and other nations )

but that would probably offend the people who think their rights include not wearing masks, seat belts or helmets.

Of course it's just an different opinion, right?

Then again, voting in person would not have a thing to do with the counting or poll watchers, would it?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @3.1    6 years ago
Or a national law that everyone must vote

You want elections decided by people who are not interested?

 
 
 
Dragon
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3.1.2  Dragon  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    6 years ago

I would say majority of American really aren't interested in politics or elections. Majority of people who vote don't really do due diligence in learning candidates policies or party platforms. Majority of people vote party line without knowing or caring what the issues are or what solutions are being proposed, 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dragon @3.1.2    6 years ago

There is an element of truth in that. In my opinion people who don't know what they are voting for should sit it out.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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3.1.4  Jasper2529  replied to  Split Personality @3.1    6 years ago
Or a national law that everyone must vote ( like Canada and other nations )

Very few nations have, or even enforce, compulsory voting. Canada does not have compulsory voting, btw.

I've provided several sources for your fact-checking pleasure: 

Twenty-two countries mandate that citizens vote, including five European nations and a high concentration of countries in Central and South America (though only half actively enforce their compulsory voting laws). 

Full stop.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.4    6 years ago

I thought Buzz said Canada was, or maybe he was just wishful.

No matter, thanks for wasting your time posting those links.

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Ender
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3.1.6  Ender  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.5    6 years ago

I thought Australia was.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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3.1.7  Jasper2529  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.5    6 years ago
No matter, thanks for wasting your time posting those links.

Learning facts is never a waste of time. I'm glad that I was able to help you learn something.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.7    6 years ago

Thank you for checking it out. Shame on me for not verifying anything they might say!

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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3.1.9  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Split Personality @3.1    6 years ago
but that would probably offend the people who think their rights include not wearing masks, seat belts or helmets

I am a person that wears masks, seat belts, and helmets, but also believe it's our right as US citizens to choose whether or not we vote. If someone chooses not to vote, there may be several reasons they don't. For example, I'm pretty sure my mom and stepdad didn't vote considering he's in the hospital and my mom has been there as much as she possibly can; this has been occurring for the better part of 4-5 months now. It wasn't their priority.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.10  Split Personality  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @3.1.9    6 years ago

Sorry to hear that MA, my wife and I will keep them in our thoughts.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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3.1.11  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.10    6 years ago

Thanks. It's been a Hellish year for my surrounding family / friends.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.12  Split Personality  replied to  Ender @3.1.6    6 years ago

True.  96% enrolled.  90% participation.

The rest are fined about $80US when they file their income taxes, so my cousin says.

Vote is always a community barbecue day on a Saturday. Lots of fun.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2  devangelical  replied to  Jasper2529 @3    6 years ago

that statement completely ignores any concept of practical logistics.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.3  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @3    6 years ago

If we can securely do our taxes and banking online then there is no reason people cannot vote online...

Democrats want to empower more voters butt the gop is actively trying to suppress our votes. Why?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    6 years ago
Hours before President Donald Trump went on national television Thursday to declare the inherent illegitimacy of ballots received after Nov. 3, local Republican officials recruited volunteers to call Pennsylvania voters and urge them to get their ballots in by Friday—three days after Election Day.

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The request, election lawyers say, appears to flagrantly run afoul of state law. Under Pennsylvania law and a recent state Supreme Court decision, absentee and mail-in ballots are valid as long as they were postmarked by Election Day and received by Nov. 6. Any Trump supporter who sends in their ballots either Thursday or Friday would not have it postmarked within the acceptable deadline—creating the precise situation that the president himself has deemed fraudulent and corrupt.

The email, which was sent by the group Kenosha For Trump and forwarded to The Daily Beast, said it was marshaling the effort on behalf of Trump Victory, the committee established by the Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee to run the field program for the president's re-election.

It went out just after 5 p.m. to a group of Trump supporters in Kenosha, Wisconsin. "Trump Victory urgently needs volunteers to make phone calls to Pennsylvania Trump supporters to return their absentee ballots," the email said. "These phone calls will help President Trump win the election!"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    6 years ago

That's what happens when judges legislate.


 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
5  Sunshine    6 years ago

She isn't very bright.  She rattled on and made no sense, didn't make clear any answers.  We can see why Pennsylvania's voting system is a cluster fk.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sunshine @5    6 years ago

She sounded like one of those faux school teachers trying to talk down to parents.

 
 
 
Dragon
Freshman Silent
5.2  Dragon  replied to  Sunshine @5    6 years ago

Exactly what Trump does, rattles on, makes no sense, one exception Trump also lies. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dragon @5.2    6 years ago

Donald Trump has been abused, insulted, degraded, lied about, and undermined from the moment he took the oath of office. He stands for this country, he stands for every American, and he has defied all the odds & elements for 4 years!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.1    6 years ago
Donald Trump has been abused, insulted, degraded, lied about, and undermined from the moment he took the oath of office.

Oh please, spare us Vic. 

The problem with your viewpoint is that it is obvious that you have never taken the time to look into Donald Trump's history or background. He has been a lifelong malignant narcissist, con man, and crook. 

Such a person NEVER should have been given an opportunity to get close to the presidency. The entire thing has been an utter travesty. 

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
5.2.3  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.1    6 years ago
Donald Trump has been...

...admired, adored, shielded and deified for 4 years! He needs to win or he will be indicted as Co-conspirator #2 in the NY 2nd District where Co-conspirator #1 has already done time. AND he won't be able to pardon himself for that.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
5.2.4  Sunshine  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.1    6 years ago

The TDS never ends.  He lives in their head 24/7.  I pity them.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Sunshine @5.2.4    6 years ago

The concept of the fictional "TDS" appears to live in yours. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Participates
5.2.6  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.1    6 years ago
Donald Trump has been abused, insulted, degraded, lied about, and undermined from the moment he took the oath of office. He stands for this country, he stands for every American, and he has defied all the odds & elements for 4 years!

I think I can fix that for you.

Barack Obama has been abused, insulted, degraded, lied about, and undermined from the moment he took the oath of office. He stands for this country, he stands for every American, and he has defied all the odds & elements for 8 years!

Of course it's just an opinion different from yours, right?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.2.7  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.1    6 years ago
Donald Trump has been abused, insulted, degraded, lied about, and undermined from the moment he took the oath of office. He stands for this country, he stands for every American, and he has defied all the odds & elements for 4 years!

How was he abused? Trump has insulted just about every leader on the planet, (except Putin, of course). 

Trump has told over 20,000 lies in just 4 years, he lies about EVERYTHING vic. 

Obama was abused, lied to, lied about, insulted and had to deal with right wing racists for 8 YEARS insulting his wife and kids. 

You think I feel even the LEAST bit sorry for Trump? No. 

800

800

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sunshine @5.2.4    6 years ago

It only takes the word - Trump!  Notice where the conversation is now?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @5.2.6    6 years ago
Barack Obama

He must have a big ass - the entire msm has their heads up there.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @5.2.7    6 years ago

Enough with the billboards, this isn't a smear contest.

I'm warning you once - get out of the mud!

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.2.11  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.10    6 years ago
I'm warning you once - get out of the mud!

Um, what did you JUST say?

He must have a big ass - the entire msm has their heads up there.

But I need to get out of the mud..

Got it. Good talk. 

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
5.2.13  evilone  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.12    6 years ago
The absolute only reason he is running for 'president' again.  

I don't agree with that. I think it's ego. He loves, loves, loves addressing adoring crowds of people.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.2.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.2    6 years ago
The problem with your viewpoint is that it is obvious that you have never taken the time to look into Donald Trump's history or background.

Or maybe he has and he still doesn't give a shit because trmp has allowed Vic to be as vicious and mean as he can to people without consequences

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
5.2.15  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.1    6 years ago
Donald Trump has been abused, insulted, degraded, lied about, and undermined from the moment he took the oath of office.

He's been assaulted by the left since June 15, 2015, the day that he announced his candidacy.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.2.16  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.2.15    6 years ago

Ya know...if he hadn't been such a despicable character the left might not have been so "vile".

Tell me one good quality about the man, and I'm talking personal, not material

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.17  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.2.15    6 years ago

Do you remember when they told us they were crossing over to vote for him in the primaries because they were sure he would lose?

They'll all deny it now, I suppose.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
5.2.18  Jasper2529  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.16    6 years ago
Ya know...if he hadn't been such a despicable character the left might not have been so "vile".
Tell me one good quality about the man, and I'm talking personal, not material

In my 3 years on this forum and on others, I've not seen anyone say that they personally know Trump. All they've said is what the media tells them to believe about him (as you did, above).

I, too, do not personally know Trump; therefore, I cannot answer your question.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.2.19  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.2.18    6 years ago

Aw...c'mon! You support him, right? You never condemn one ugly word that comes out of his mouth. You probably voted for him. So there has to be one redeeming quality about him that makes you like him so much.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.2.20  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.17    6 years ago

oh please. Name one person who said that.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
5.2.21  Jasper2529  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.19    6 years ago
Aw...c'mon! You support him, right? You never condemn one ugly word that comes out of his mouth. You probably voted for him. 

Your current assumptions prove that you still know nothing about me, and that's exactly why I've commented as I do on this forum and others.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.3  MrFrost  replied to  Sunshine @5    6 years ago

Trump lost. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
5.3.1  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @5.3    6 years ago

Yes everyone knows that.  Biden lost 2 times before.  

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.3.2  devangelical  replied to  Sunshine @5.3.1    6 years ago
The BDS never ends.  He lives in their head 24/7. I pity them.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.4  MrFrost  replied to  Sunshine @5    6 years ago
We can see why Pennsylvania's voting system is a cluster fk.

It takes a long time to count millions of ballots. PA. asked if they could start counting mail in ballots early, the republicans said, "no". Now PA is getting slammed for the republicans decisions. 

My suggestion?

Deal with it. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
5.4.1  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @5.4    6 years ago

Other large states and cities had no problems.

I really don't care about your suggestions, I feel for the people of PA who have to deal with it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.4.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @5.4    6 years ago
Deal with it. 

We are going to deal with it the same way you dealt with Clinton's loss.

First to delegitimize the Biden win, then to resist everything the mentally challenged proxy tries to do!

Let us now how it tastes!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.4.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sunshine @5.4.1    6 years ago
Other large states and cities had no problems.

On election night when they got to the west coast, they announced that polls had closed in WA, Oregon & CA and that they had gone to Biden all in one breathe!  Why is it that crucial border states run by democrats can't count their ballots?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.4.4  MrFrost  replied to  Sunshine @5.4.1    6 years ago
Other large states and cities had no problems.

It's weird that trump claimed fraud in states that he was losing. He wanted the counting to stop in states that he WAS winning and continue the count in states he was losing.

Gee, that doesn't seem partisan at all, does it? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
5.4.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.4.2    6 years ago
We are going to deal with it the same way you dealt with Clinton's loss.

256

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.4.6  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.4.2    6 years ago
We are going to deal with it the same way you dealt with Clinton's loss.

You're just mad that Trump lost.

Which is what I have heard for the last 4 years...

"You're just mad because Hillary lost!"

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
5.4.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @5.4.4    6 years ago

He wanted the acceptance of votes NOT in by 11-3 midnight to not be counted not all counting FFS.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.4.8  MrFrost  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.4.5    6 years ago

800

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.4.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @5.4.6    6 years ago

Hopefully the Trump haters will finally calm down.

Maybe the local Wendy's will be safe and cats won't be kicked.


 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.4.10  MrFrost  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.4.7    6 years ago

They are counting votes in accordance with the law. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
5.4.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.4.5    6 years ago

Jim,

The Dems who supported Hillary never said that the election was rigged. They said that she won the popular vote. They accepted she lost the electoral vote, and that is why they wanted to do away with it, something I vehemently opposed. I am for a proportionate electoral college.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.4.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.4.12    6 years ago

I know you are talking to Jim and I know you are talking about her supporters, but just the other day, 4 years after the election Hillary said: “I was the candidate that they basically stole an election from,” Clinton said  Monday on the New York Times podcast:


 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.4.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.4.2    6 years ago

So you're not even going to try and be better? What is Melania's big program? Be Best?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.4.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.4.13    6 years ago

Hillary said that. Not a bunch of "vile progressives".

Who listens to her anymore? I bet her grandchildren don't listen to her

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Participates
5.4.16  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.4.13    6 years ago
“I was the candidate that they basically stole an election from,”

Well Hillary has something in common with at least 46 other people who lost a Presidential contest, many of whom

complained like HRC.  She belongs to a very small and exclusive club.

And why the hell would you watch a NYT podcast?  Your opinion of them is well know to be beneath whale shit

at 11,000 m.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.4.17  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.4.14    6 years ago
So you're not even going to try and be better?

I am better. Just about everyone is better.


 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.4.18  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.4.17    6 years ago

I'm not seeing it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.4.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @5.4.16    6 years ago

Why? Because I get a lot of stuff from the NYT. If you get their free morning update, you can actually read and hear a lot of stuff they charge money for.


Your opinion of them is well know to be beneath whale shit

at 11,000 m.

Well said!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.4.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.4.18    6 years ago

You may have a bad vantage point.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.4.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.4.20    6 years ago

I don't think we're talking about the same thing here. I don't see you being better than the "vile progressives" you bully on so much.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Expert
5.4.22  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.4.9    6 years ago
Hopefully the Trump haters will finally calm down.

Oh, we're still calm and Trump is still a vile animal.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6  MrFrost    6 years ago
Decision Desk HQ
@DecisionDeskHQ

Decision Desk HQ projects that

@JoeBiden  has won Pennsylvania and its 20 electoral college votes for a total of 273. Joe Biden has been elected the 46th President of the United States of America. Race called at 11-06 08:50 AM EST
 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
6.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  MrFrost @6    6 years ago

I make it 306 electoral college votes, since Georgia went blue (yes, Georgia!), and Nevada is still blue.  North Carolina might end up going blue, which would be nice, but is not necessary for a Trump defeat.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1    6 years ago

I agree, but I don't see NC going blue.. Not this election anyway. 306 is correct, which is what trump won by in 2016...pretty ironic.. LOL 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1    6 years ago

Biden only needs one state to make it official. I kind of thought it would have ended yesterday.

What about the actions of the PA Supreme Court or the PA Secretary of State?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Participates
6.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1    6 years ago

306 was my prediction.  NC will go to The PoTUS with Alaska

Just my best guess

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.3    6 years ago

I'm glad that both of you finally have something to smile about.

Just don't taunt anyone with it.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
6.1.5  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    6 years ago
What about the actions of the PA Supreme Court or the PA Secretary of State?

I figure they know Pennsylvania law better than you do.  And it seems that US District Court Judge Timothy Savage agrees that ballots with technical problems can be "cured".  He's a Republican appointee, BTW.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.5    6 years ago
I figure they know Pennsylvania law better than you do.

I figure they don't!  The state of PA traditionally required mail-in ballots to be due by the time polls close on Election Day. The state supreme court cited language in the state election law allowing “authority to provide relief when there is a natural disaster or emergency,” to extend votes to be accepted 3 days after the election.



I fully expect that to be challenged and it could be meaningful.

As for the idea that ballots can be cured - that, if legal, would have to be done in every precinct. It was not. There was, at the very least, confusion on that.

Those are just two of the legitimate concerns that need be addressed in PA.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
6.1.7  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.6    6 years ago
I figure you don't!

I never said I know Pennsylvania law better than you.  I said the Pennsylvania SoS and Supreme Court do.  Have you passed the bar in Pennsylvania, Vic?  Has every member of their Supreme Court?

Pandemics are emergencies, Vic.

As far as curing ballots - it is not prohibited, but is not required.  So counties can allow for curing of ballots if they choose.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.7    6 years ago
I never said I know Pennsylvania law better than you. 

I know, notice the correction.


 I said the Pennsylvania SoS and Supreme Court do.

They must if they can overrule the State legislature - you know, the ones who make election laws in PA!


Have you passed the bar in Pennsylvania, Vic? 

No, I kind of passed on Law School.


Has every member of their Supreme Court?

There are questions about that Court's ruling. They are not a legislature. You do know the difference?


So counties can allow for curing of ballots if they choose.

Any fair minded person would know that would be wrong! It would have to be universal throughout the state. Otherwise we would have a lot of curing going on in Philly and Pittsburg......right?   We know how it goes.

My suggestion for all state legislatures - From now on all mail-in ballots should be counted as they come in. None accepted after election day!  Election day ballots should be counted last.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
6.1.9  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.8    6 years ago
No, I kind of passed on Law School.

So, you don't know Pennsylvania law better than their SoS or Supreme Court.  Thanks for admitting as much.

My suggestion for all state legislatures - From now on all mail-in ballots should be counted as they come in.

A message for the Republicans in Pennsylvania's state legislature.  They're the ones who wouldn't allow counting before Election Day.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.9    6 years ago
So, you don't know Pennsylvania law better than their SoS or Supreme Court. 

I do know that the State Legislature makes election law. You can't get yourself to admit that. 


A message for the Republicans in Pennsylvania's state legislature.  They're the ones who wouldn't allow counting before Election Day.

That's what the Trump-hating governor of PA focused on. Funny how you would recite his proclamation.

There is always some fraud in every election, but the way the biased gov and his Sos handled things, (combined with the activist state supreme court's actions) - nobody is going to believe the state election was conducted fairly - regardless of any SCOTUS decision. Covid was used as the excuse for all of the tampering with the rules. That will be the big take away from 2020 - as Jane Fonda put it "Covid was God's gift to the left!"

One more thing - The President has every right to question and litigate what happened and people who lived for years in Russia Collusion houses shouldn't be throwing conspiracy-theory stones.

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Quiet
6.1.11  pat wilson  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.4    6 years ago
Just don't taunt anyone with it.

Ya, 'cause none of that happened in 2016.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
6.1.12  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.10    6 years ago

Yes, the legislature makes election law.  The law they passed contained language allowing for an extension due to emergencies.  A pandemic is a public health emergency.  The Supreme Court interpreted it as such, because, you know, word definitions and stuff.

You know, SoS Boockvar, whose competency, BTW, is in no way related to her looks, asked counties to start counting mail in ballots on Election Day, since they weren't allowed to do so before that.  Swing and red counties refused.  Seems they cut off their noses to spite their own faces.

Trump has a right to question and litigate.  And without any evidence of wrongdoing, those cases will be thrown out of court (some already have), and he'll just look more like the sore loser we always knew he'd be.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  pat wilson @6.1.11    6 years ago

I don't recall it. I was here at NT at the time of the election. At that time NT was mostly Conservative. Then came the onslaught of lefties from the defunct NV!

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Quiet
6.1.14  pat wilson  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.13    6 years ago

I and many other "lefties" were here long before 2016. I doubt NT was mostly conservative.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.12    6 years ago
The Supreme Court interpreted it as such, because, you know, word definitions and stuff.

The State Supreme Court made that interpretation. We shall see if a full SCOTUS agrees with it.


Trump has a right to question and litigate.

Um-hum


And without any evidence of wrongdoing, those cases will be thrown out of court

That is true and it has to be significant. I don't see how he can get to the evidence. So it just delays everything, but we are used to that. It's 2020 in all ways!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  pat wilson @6.1.14    6 years ago
. I doubt NT was mostly conservative.

Ask Perrie. We had this conversation and she made note of it. I know there were some of you here, but at the time of the election you were in the minority. I came a bit before NV closed down. Had I known Perrie in the old days, I would have come here on the back of Secretariat.  (That's a bit of an exaggeration ....ok?)

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
6.1.17  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.13    6 years ago

Hi Vic, 

You joined in 2017 and NV closed NV closed that same year. NT got about equal number of liberals and conservatives from NV, like you. The site prior to that was pretty balanced. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.18  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.17    6 years ago

Hi Perrie, I stand corrected.

I hate to sound like Gen Custer, but why does it seem like there are so many on the other side?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.19  devangelical  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.17    6 years ago

seriously? I lurked here several years before joining. this place was a tea party cesspool back then.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
6.1.20  Ender  replied to  devangelical @6.1.19    6 years ago

It was a running joke on the vine that conservative people that were banned came here.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.21  JohnRussell  replied to  devangelical @6.1.19    6 years ago

It has been way worse since the NV right wing came here in 2017.  The previous conservatives here weren't as dumb. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.22  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @6.1.20    6 years ago

I only know of one person banned from NV that Perrie took in and he wasn't a Conservative.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
6.1.23  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.22    6 years ago

I actually don't know anyone off the top of my head. I have suspicions though.

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Quiet
6.1.24  pat wilson  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.18    6 years ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.25  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @6.1.23    6 years ago
I actually don't know anyone off the top of my head.

Let me help: Perrie took him in way back in 2011 - that's the year I began with NV. That's why I only got to know him when I came here.

He is currently on this thread.

That's all the clues for now.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
6.1.26  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.25    6 years ago

I will only say I think there is one or two on the right that had a name change.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.27  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @6.1.26    6 years ago

That I don't know about. People who do that are trying to disrupt.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
6.1.28  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.25    6 years ago

Vic,

I started this site because of what I felt was wrongful banning, most of who were conservatives, and some liberals. Being banned from NV IMHO, does not mean you wear a mark. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.29  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.28    6 years ago

I'm glad to hear that and I'm not trying to cast any stones at those you rescued. I recall one person was banned over there for a death wish, yet I never recall seeing that in the NV rules.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
6.1.30  Ender  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.28    6 years ago

I remember Calvin would have a shark week and ban people.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
6.1.31  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.29    6 years ago

NV did have a rule about death wishing another member and so do we, for the record. I am not sure about public figures though. Here you can, but you can't incite to actually go out and kill a public figure. That I report to the FBI, and it has happened twice. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
6.1.33  Ender  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.32    6 years ago

I remember that. I changed my name too. I changed it while still on the vine though.

I was talking more about people that were banned them came back with a different name.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.34  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.32    6 years ago

Hum, I don't remember any of those names?  Was the avatar the same?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.35  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.31    6 years ago
NV did have a rule about death wishing another member

I'm sure they did. Do you know if it was listed in their rules?

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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6.1.36  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.17    6 years ago

What year did NT start, Perrie?

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.39  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.22    6 years ago

bullshit. drifty and her boner squad were banned countless times from NV.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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6.1.40  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  pat wilson @6.1.11    6 years ago
Ya, 'cause none of that happened in 2016.

Kudos to you!!!!!  I'm glad someone acknowledged that fact.  And it still goes on every single day.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.41  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @6.1.39    6 years ago

So what?

Don't know them.

My statement stands. They could have banned hundreds - I only knew of one!

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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6.1.42  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.37    6 years ago

Personally... I bailed on NV in 2008 and never looked back. Hell, I don't even remember what my name was there... It may have been MsA or something like that, and I certainly don't remember what I had as my avatar. I came over here with many people that are either passed on or don't come to the front page very often.... except Kavika. He is the only one I see frequently here now.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.43  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.38    6 years ago

Oh, that's why. I tend to remember faces as opposed to symbols and caricatures.

Does anyone remember someone called Styres?  I'm not sure if that was the complete name.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.46  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.45    6 years ago

He was a libertarian. He took a lot of grief from his kids -over politics. It really bothered him. I would have booted them right in the ass! He was a good man. He kind of got me to write my own articles.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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6.1.47  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @6.1.36    6 years ago
What year did NT start, Perrie?

October 1, 2010

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
6.1.48  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @6.1.42    6 years ago

Ms A. I think you came in the first wave after they went to the "nation system". That is when they did away with the private groups. That was another reason I left. They locked my private group, which meant they were reading what was said in there. In fact, it was a log of every member and the comment they made that got them banned. And to be honest, the group was made up of both liberals and conservatives and indies. The liberals and indies did not want an echo chamber, and the conservatives for the most part were being targeted. 

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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6.1.49  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.47    6 years ago

I've been here for going on 9 years! OMG! jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif I think that it was late 2011 I started? Maybe? Or early 2012... No, it couldn't have been 2012, because I began attending college courses in August 2012 and was MIA for a while. Maybe like December 2011 or something. It's hard to determine just by my articles, because I didn't start writing them until a few years after I started and the comments on my page say 8 years, but that just gives amount of years until the next year starts I believe, right?

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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6.1.50  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @6.1.49    6 years ago

I just know that it was TTGA and Neale that invited me here... oh and Grump.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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6.1.51  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.48    6 years ago

OMG! I remember that now that you said that! Yeah, it was shortly after the private groups went away... because of "Kato's Korner" which became the "Kilted Korner" here. And a bunch of my articles were gone because of that.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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6.1.52  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    6 years ago
Biden only needs one state to make it official.

Not if Trump's legal team contests all of the curious shenanigans going on in NC, PA, GA, AZ, MI, WI.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
6.1.53  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @6.1.49    6 years ago

I just checked (I know how annoying these things can be) and here is the date you signed on 07/31/12. So yes, 8 years!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
6.1.54  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @6.1.51    6 years ago
OMG! I remember that now that you said that! Yeah, it was shortly after the private groups went away... because of "Kato's Korner" which became the "Kilted Korner" here. And a bunch of my articles were gone because of that.

I thought giving you a reference point would help, but then I remembered that the members log gives the date you first signed in and I checked. 

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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6.1.55  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.53    6 years ago

Wow... I thought it was sooner than that, but I guess not. Thanks for checking! It is kind of annoying. jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.57  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @6.1.52    6 years ago

Yep, this could be a long haul.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
6.1.59  Jasper2529  replied to    6 years ago

Thank you for serving as a poll worker in Maricopa County. Perhaps you can answer this: On TV, I saw dozens of Trump supporters peacefully protesting. What were they protesting ... and why?

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Junior Participates
6.1.60  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to    6 years ago

My former mother in law was one of the mail-in ballot counters here in Wayne County MI... she was dealing with only a couple local districts though. Thank you for your efforts!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
6.2  Ender  replied to  MrFrost @6    6 years ago

For some reason ABC is not calling a lot of states. They are still not even calling Alaska.

On a side note...why is Chris Cristie now an election pundit on ABC news...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7  Sean Treacy    6 years ago

They don't like people watching their poll workers

And Democrats win an inordinate share of statewide elections that are decided by one point or less...

Richard Daley's heirs know how to do what he perfected. Always hold  votes and precincts  back in Democrat controlled urban areas until you know how many votes you need. And voila! The Democrat win the state by a couple tenths of a percentage point. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8  MrFrost    6 years ago

Biden will be a president for all Americans, Trump was a president for himself, no one else. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
9  Just Jim NC TttH    6 years ago

I think I may create a poll. With damaging consequences. Be interesting to see how long Mr. Biden lasts, if elected, prior to the invocation of the 25th amendment.......................He seems to be at 18-20 now out of 25 LOL

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
9.1  MrFrost  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9    6 years ago
prior to the invocation of the 25th amendment...............

Good luck with that one.. LOL 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

Be back in a few

 
 
 
devangelical
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12.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @12    6 years ago
Be back in a few

... days.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @12.1    6 years ago

The Breeders Cup required all my attention. Too bad if you don't like it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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13  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

Two hundred plus comments makes this a bit unwieldy and covering the same points only degrades it. I trust everyone had their say.

This one is history.

 
 

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