NBC silent after retracting Paul Pelosi report under mysterious circumstances

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  3 weeks ago  •  200 comments

By:   Joseph Wulfsohn (Fox News)

NBC silent after retracting Paul Pelosi report under mysterious circumstances
NBC News is staying silent after it retracted its explosive reporting on the Paul Pelosi attack, fueling more questions than answers about last week's assault.

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NBC News went viral with an explosive report about what allegedly transpired when police responded to the attack on Paul Pelosi but the network's retraction is fueling even more questions.

NBC News caused a firestorm on social media after it retracted its explosive reporting on last week's attack of Paul Pelosi.

On Friday's installment of "Today," NBC News national correspondent Miguel Almaguer went viral for stunning revelations of what apparently transpired when police arrived to Pelosi's San Francisco home.

"Sources familiar with what unfolded in the Pelosi residence now revealing when officers responded to the 'high priority call,' they were seemingly unaware they've been called to the home of the Speaker of the House," Almaguer told viewers. "After a 'knock and announce,' the front door was opened by Mr. Pelosi. The 82-year-old did not immediately declare an emergency or tried to leave his home but instead began walking several feet back into the foyer toward the assailant and away from police. It's unclear if the 82-year-old was already injured or what his mental state was, say sources."

Paul and Nancy Pelosi on April 25, 2015, in Washington, D.C.; Image shows FBI agents outside the home of Nancy and Paul Pelosi on Oct. 28, 2022. (Dimitrios Kambouris/VF15/WireImage ; Fox News)

"According to court documents, when the officer asked what was going on, defendant smiled and said 'everything's good' but instantaneously a struggle ensued as police clearly saw David DePape strike Paul Pelosi in the head with a hammer. After tackling the suspect, officers rushed to Mr. Pelosi who was lying in a pool of blood," Almaguer continued.

Almaguer concluded his report by telling "Today" co-host Craig Melvin "we still don't know exactly what unfolded between Mr. Pelosi and the suspect for the 30 minutes they were alone inside that house before police arrive. Officials who are investigating this matter would not go into further details about these new details."

NBC News retracted its report from correspondent Miguel Almaguer about stunning details from the Paul Pelosi attack on Nov. 4, 2022. (Screenshot/NBC News)

The report made the rounds on Twitter with critics saying the revelations raised more questions than answers regarding what occurred at the Pelosi residence.

However, not long after it was shared online, NBC News removed the report from its website and on social media.

NBC News issued an editor's note on its website, reading "This piece has been removed from publication because it did not meet NBC News reporting standards."

It is unclear what specifically from Almaguer's report did not meet the network's "reporting standards."

NBC News did not immediately respond to Fox News' requests for comment.

Paul and Nancy Pelosi attend the Pre-GRAMMY Gala. (Right) David DePape (Michael Short/ San Francisco Chronicle)

Paul Pelosi was released from the hospital on Thursday, nearly one week after the shocking attack at his home. The 82-year-old underwent emergency surgery on a fractured skull.

DePape was charged with multiple crimes, including attempted homicide, assault with a deadly weapon, burglary and elder abuse.

The 42-year-old illegal immigrant from Canada allegedly wanted to hold House Speaker Nancy Pelosi hostage and threatened to break "her kneecaps" if he caught her lying, according to court documents.

Police recovered zip ties in Pelosi's bedroom, found glass broken at the rear of the house, tape, rope, gloves and a journal, according to the FBI affidavit.



Fox News' Michael Ruiz contributed to this report.

Joseph A. Wulfsohn is a media reporter for Fox News Digital. Story tips can be sent to joseph.wulfsohn@fox.com and on Twitter: @JosephWulfsohn.


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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

The details of this attack seem very strange:

Paul Pelosi has an intruder in the house, he calls the police and they come, when they arrive he opens the door for them and then turns back and walks toward the intruder who hits Pelosi over the head with a hammer. The intruder broke in. There are alarms but they don't go off. There are cameras all over the property but nobody notices. Does anyone else think that this is strange?

Why the censorship by NBC of their own story?

Why the lack of transparency by the police?

Before somebody calls me a "conspiracy theorist,"  please note: that I am only asking logical questions.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
1.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago

And how many other hammer attacks have piqued such interest? This is just another in a too long list of politically motivated ‘hit’ pieces.

It should be a frightening reminder of just how divisive the dialogue has become when a fellow citizen is attacked in his home in the middle of the night and somehow that attack is marginalized for purely puerile political purposes. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1    3 weeks ago
And how many other hammer attacks have piqued such interest?

Any weird circumstances have piqued such interest. Shall we toss anybody who asks a question in Jail?  Will the Stasi be coming for me?


t should be a frightening reminder of just how divisive the dialogue has become when a fellow citizen is attacked in his home in the middle of the night and somehow that attack is marginalized for purely puerile political purposes. 

That's the conspiracy theory the left is pushing.

I'm asking questions that you seem frightened of.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
1.1.2  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    3 weeks ago

“I'm asking questions that you seem frightened of.”

No…afrayedknot.

You’re just tossing chum into the feeding frenzy. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1.2    3 weeks ago
You’re just tossing chum

I'm asking the questions that the leftist media should be asking.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
1.1.4  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    3 weeks ago

“I'm asking the questions that the leftist media should be asking.”

No, you’re just repeating the questions that the right wing outlets are spoon feeding you. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1.4    3 weeks ago

I have every right to ask questions.

Despite Biden, this isn't the Soviet Union yet!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.5    3 weeks ago
Despite Biden, this isn't the Soviet Union yet!

How do you bring yourself to make such a ridiculous comparison?   This suggests that Biden is attempting to turn our system into one that is:

  • authoritarian:  destroying our constitution, hobbling/destroying democracy
  • command economy:  diminishing / destroying the private sector and free market dynamics, and having the government manage supply and demand
  • single party rule:  one party in perpetual total power with a class system that sharply distinguishes the haves (party members) from the have nots (all others)
  • brutality:  mass murdering civilians to eliminate enemies and force compliance by the masses
  • intrusion:   the state monitoring and interfering with the private lives of citizens
  • controlled media:  the state controls public information

Why not just compare Biden with Stalin ... you are almost there?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.6    3 weeks ago
Why not just compare Biden with Stalin

Yes he is like Stalin.

He has weaponized the DOJ/FBI to investigate/intimidate parents. He also schemed to get a school board association to send the DOJ a letter asking for help with local school board meetings.

He has threatened FBI whistleblowers who talked to members of congress.

He has supported a double standard of justice and his DOJ is out trying to prosecute political enemies.

He has maliciously punished without evidence members of the border patrol for using "whips' on migrants.

He has violated his duty as president to protect the borders of the US

He has continued to lie to the American people on everything from the economy to racism


Have I missed anything TiG?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    3 weeks ago
Yes he is like Stalin. ... Have I missed anything TiG?

You have missed the concept of rational comparison.    You are comparing a brutal authoritarian dictator to a PotUS.   You are comparing the former USSR to the USA that Biden seeks.

I think anyone who compares Biden to Stalin has destroyed their credibility. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
1.1.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

Oh dear god, Vic, get a grip. Every one of those things you listed is exactly what Democrats would have listed about Trump. Irony at it's best.

As for this story. The bottom line is that an 82 year old man was beaten with a hammer. Even if they were lovers (they were not, nor would it be anyone's business but the Pelosi family), this is still a crime and a brutal one at that. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.10  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.9    3 weeks ago
Even if they were lovers (they were not, nor would it be anyone's business but the Pelosi family), this is still a crime and a brutal one at that. 

Yes Perrie, nobody argues that point.

By the same token, the media has an obligation to be non-partisan.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.11  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.8    3 weeks ago
You are comparing a brutal authoritarian dictator to a PotUS.   You are comparing the former USSR to the USA that Biden seeks.

I got the idea form Joe Biden.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.12  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.11    3 weeks ago

Could you be more vague?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
1.1.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.10    3 weeks ago
By the same token, the media has an obligation to be non-partisan.

And there is no proof that this is just a gaff.

And for the record, I would hardly call Fox News, OAN, or Newsmax non-partisan. Every news outlet has a bend to it, and that is the reality of the situation. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.14  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.12    3 weeks ago

Did you miss his Phialdelphia speech and his most recent one from Union Station?

Let me refresh your memory:

"We're seeing now either the beginning or the death knell of an extreme MAGA agenda,"  Reuters reported Biden saying at the fundraiser,  referring to former President Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan. "It's not just Trump. ... It's almost semi-fascism."

"Trump and the extreme MAGA Republicans have made their choice,"   Biden said to the party faithful.   "To go backwards, full of anger, violence, hate and division.

"MAGA Republicans don't just threaten our personal rights and economic security," Biden said. "They are a threat to our very democracy. They refuse to accept the will of the people. They embrace — embrace — political violence. They don't believe in democracy."



 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.15  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.13    3 weeks ago
And there is no proof that this is just a gaff.

Thank you Perrie

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.14    3 weeks ago

Gee, hasn't the WH walked back and already "Joe-splained" what Biden really, really meant yet?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
1.1.17  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.15    3 weeks ago

Vic, let me clarify. I meant I meant that NBC just made a gaff and not some conspiracy. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.1.18  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.6    3 weeks ago

Biden wants to be Chi, not Stalin.

He wants to create a population that is subservient and never questions rule. That is so preprogrammed and used to the yoke of oppression that any rebellion will be put down by the oppressed. He would really like to make all dissenters disappear to reeducation camps- with no one ever questioning; many to never be heard from again.

Biden talks a good game about using the military against half the population that has the temerity not to agree with him; but when it comes to actually doing it- he simply doesn't have the balls to go beyond a Stalin wannabe.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.19  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.18    3 weeks ago

Then why has the horrible terrible Biden not arrested you yet?

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
1.1.20  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.17    3 weeks ago
I meant I meant that NBC just made a gaff and not some conspiracy. 

That was one Hell of a Gaff from someone that is supposed to be Reporting actual "News" to the Populace !

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.21  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.14    3 weeks ago

Vic, it is beyond absurd to compare Biden with Stalin.

You can post quotes all day long and you will never make anything more than an irrational case.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.22  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.18    3 weeks ago
Biden wants to be Chi, not Stalin.

Some of you do not seem to understand that the more extreme your rhetoric the less credible your message.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
1.1.23  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.21    3 weeks ago
You can post quotes all day long and you will never make anything more than an irrational case.

What one ACTUALLY says, as a LEADEr of a Nation, doesn't matter .......... NOW ?

Such an Irrational Thought !

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.1.24  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.9    3 weeks ago
Even if they were lovers (they were not, nor would it be anyone's business but the Pelosi family), this is still a crime and a brutal one at that. 

Yes it is a crime; one that Brandon; Democrats, and their media lemmings have tried to turn to their political advantage.

Funny how the media quickly ignored and moved on from the story of the deranged veteran that attacked the Republican candidate for governor of NY. Of course the attacker was back out on the street the next day. No charges for attempted murder; assault with a deadly weapon; or federal charges for being a political hate crime.

An attempted assault on Representative Lee Zeldin , the Republican candidate for governor of New York, inflamed a fierce debate over the state’s public safety laws on Friday, hours after a man accused of charging the candidate with a pointed weapon was released without bail.

Mr. Zeldin has long made public safety a centerpiece of his campaign against Gov. Kathy Hochul, a Democrat. But he and his allies argued on Friday that the episode viscerally drove home the need to increase policing and tighten New York’s bail laws to make it easier for judges to hold people charged with certain crimes.

“Only in Kathy Hochul’s New York could a maniac violently attack a candidate for Governor and then be released without bail,” Nick Langworthy, the New York Republican Party chairman, wrote on Twitter . “This is what happens when you destroy the criminal justice system.”

The attack took place Thursday night outside a Veterans of Foreign Wars hall near Rochester, where Mr. Zeldin was holding the first in a series of weekend campaign stops. As the candidate was discussing public safety and rising costs of living, a man, who was later identified by the police as David G. Jakubonis, slowly approached him.

Video footage of the encounter showed Mr. Jakubonis wielding a pointed plastic self-defense tool shaped like the face of a cartoon cat as he lunged at Mr. Zeldin. Mr. Jakubonis can be heard on video repeatedly saying, “You’re done.”

Mr. Zeldin, a four-term congressman from Long Island, was not injured. Others, including his running mate, the former New York City police officer Alison Esposito, rushed the stage and wrestled the man to the ground.

Mr. Jakubonis, 43, of Fairport, N.Y., was charged with attempted assault in the second degree, according to the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office, and released on his own recognizance. Since 2020, under New York law, judges have been barred from setting bail on the charge of attempted assault, a nonviolent felony; previously, prosecutors would have had the option to request that Mr. Jakubonis be held on bail.

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Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.1.25  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @1.1.19    3 weeks ago

Because the Fascist Democrats are in charge of the White House, House, and Senate. Have you missed that for the last two years?

Have you missed their weaponization of the IRS, DOJ, and FBI into arms of the DNC?

In order for Brandon to get arrested he there has to be charges against him. Same as Trump- no matter how much TDS driven morons want to do away with due process in his case.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.1.26  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.22    3 weeks ago

Some of you seem to have forgotten the last 7 years of "Putin's puppet!" BS.

No matter how much evidence was presented against it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.27  TᵢG  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @1.1.23    3 weeks ago
What one ACTUALLY says, as a LEADEr of a Nation, doesn't matter .......... NOW ?

Quotes from Biden will not justify equating him with Stalin.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.28  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.26    3 weeks ago
Some of you seem to have forgotten the last 7 years of "Putin's puppet!" BS.

What are you talking about now?   Try to stay focused.

Equating Biden with Stalin or Chi is absurd.   Doing so is a credibility killer.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
1.1.29  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.24    3 weeks ago
Also, if the assault on Paul Pelosi wasn't politically motivated it proves the Democrats and their media lemmings are again lying POS that will say and do anything 

NANCY .... Remembering January 6th ..... Someone shouted Nancy then too !

It's all about Politics ....... Nance , whatever you want me to do,"  

256

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
1.1.30  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.27    3 weeks ago
Quotes from Biden will not justify equating him with Stalin.  

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Jasper2529
Professor Participates
1.1.31  Jasper2529  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1    3 weeks ago
This is just another in a too long list of politically motivated ‘hit’ pieces.

Seriously? This story hasn't even begun to scratch the surface of what you call a 'hit' piece when compared to what left wing politicians and media have heinously and wrongfully said about and done to Clarence Thomas, Nick Sandmann, Candace Owens, Kyle Rittenhouse, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett, Donald Trump (and family, associates), Tim Scott, and scores of other Republicans/Conservatives.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.32  Texan1211  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.26    3 weeks ago
Some of you seem to have forgotten the last 7 years of "Putin's puppet!" BS.

Yeah, but that was about Trump.

Apparently, everything is fair game if directed at Trump or anyone who voted for him. 

Now, if you say something similar about Biden, it isn't 'allowed'.

 
 
 
dennissmith
Freshman Silent
1.1.33  dennissmith  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

Spot on Vic, You missed nothing.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.34  TᵢG  replied to  dennissmith @1.1.33    3 weeks ago

You compare Biden to Stalin too?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.35  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.17    3 weeks ago

They never said their reporter got it wrong.

They simply deleted the story they had approved for release.

It appears that somebody, maybe Nancy Pelosi pressured tem to do it.

 
 
 
dennissmith
Freshman Silent
1.1.36  dennissmith  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.34    3 weeks ago

Can you read?

 
 
 
dennissmith
Freshman Silent
1.1.37  dennissmith  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.34    3 weeks ago

You are in way over your head.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.1.38  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  dennissmith @1.1.36    3 weeks ago

If you get a reply, the answer is obviously yes.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.39  TᵢG  replied to  dennissmith @1.1.36    3 weeks ago

You jumped into a discussion and clearly have no idea what we were discussing.   

In the comment to which you replied, Vic's opening sentence was this:

Vic @1.1.7Yes he [Biden] is like Stalin.

That was in response to my (sarcastic) point @1.1.6:

TiG@1.1.6Why not just compare Biden with Stalin?

The rest of his comment @1.1.7 was in support of his opening statement.   See how this works?   

So when you replied @1.1.33 with:

Dennis@1.1.33Spot on Vic, You missed nothing.

You are agreeing with Vic's assertion that Biden is like Stalin.  

See?

You are in way over your head.

Says the mouse to the cat.

 
 
 
dennissmith
Freshman Silent
1.1.40  dennissmith  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.39    3 weeks ago

I have followed the discussion in spite of what you think. You have just confirmed that you are in way over your head. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.41  TᵢG  replied to  dennissmith @1.1.40    3 weeks ago

Mere (and platitudinal) claims with no supporting argument are rather pathetic.

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
1.1.42  Revillug  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.35    3 weeks ago
It appears that somebody, maybe Nancy Pelosi pressured tem to do it.

It appears NBC's reporter got fed a bunch of manipulative lies by someone inclined to spread disinformation for political purposes and NBC is embarrassed by this.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.43  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.25    3 weeks ago

No, not Biden. If Biden is so bad why hasn't he had you arrested?

Stalin would never let Russians speak of him how you do Biden...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.44  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Revillug @1.1.42    3 weeks ago
NBC's reporter

NBC's reporter took someone's word without checking?

Link please

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.45  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.8    3 weeks ago

What credibility?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.46  Tessylo  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.9    3 weeks ago

They weren't lovers and I can't believe you said that.  Musk promoted it was an attack by a gay lover on Twitter and it was up for hours (after being re-tweeted and whatever thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of times).  

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
1.1.47  Revillug  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.44    3 weeks ago
NBC's reporter took someone's word without checking?

Link please

Here is the quote:

A network source told CNN it pulled the segment after the source of the report's information was found to be unreliable.

"The decision was made to remove the segment after it was determined, shortly after it aired, that the main source for the information was unreliable regarding the question of the circumstances that the police encountered when they arrived at the house, specifically what the police saw and how far the attacker was from the door," the source said.

NBC News pulls report on Paul Pelosi attack

From the same link as before.

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.48  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Revillug @1.1.47    3 weeks ago

Well that's three times that you and I posted the same information. Unforntunately, it's not an explanation.

Thus it is quite clear that NBC, the SFPD and the Capitol Police are covering something up and for whom is quite obvious.


At this point there are only two explanations for your behavior: either (1) you are a schill for democrats or 


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Revillug
Freshman Guide
1.1.49  Revillug  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.48    3 weeks ago
Unforntunately, it's not an explanation.

There remains only one explanation for your behavior.

Now maybe somebody will call a moderator.

Or the FBI.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.50  Tessylo  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.1.31    3 weeks ago

Everything said and 'done' about those scumbags are true Jasper.   Facts.  Not smearing.  Scumbags, every single one of them.  

Nothing was wrongfully said about any of those scumbags.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.51  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.48    3 weeks ago
"Thus it is quite clear that NBC, the SFPD and the Capitol Police are covering something up and for whom is quite obvious."

Nothing is being covered up by anyone much less the media.  You're promoting conspiracies, as usual.  

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
1.1.52  Revillug  replied to  Revillug @1.1.47    3 weeks ago

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Revillug
Freshman Guide
1.1.53  Revillug  replied to  Revillug @1.1.52    3 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.54  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Revillug @1.1.53    3 weeks ago

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Jasper2529
Professor Participates
1.1.55  Jasper2529  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.50    3 weeks ago
Everything said and 'done' about those scumbags are true Jasper.   Facts.  Not smearing.  Scumbags, every single one of them.   Nothing was wrongfully said about any of those scumbags.

If ... and that's a big if ... what you claim are truly 'facts', why haven't Clarence Thomas, Nick Sandmann, Candace Owens, Kyle Rittenhouse, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett, Donald Trump (and family, associates), Tim Scott, and scores of other Republicans/Conservatives been indicted, convicted, and imprisoned in US courts of law? 

Or ... are the "scumbag" accusations merely based upon personal political opinion? It doesn't matter to me which it is.

 
 
 
dennissmith
Freshman Silent
1.1.56  dennissmith  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.41    3 weeks ago

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TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.57  TᵢG  replied to  dennissmith @1.1.56    3 weeks ago

Brilliant rebuttal.   1280

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
1.1.58  Revillug  replied to  Revillug @1.1.53    3 weeks ago

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
1.1.59  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Revillug @1.1.58    3 weeks ago

The rules are simple. You can insult the article, public figure, etc,  but you can not insult a member... that protects you as well as others.

Playing by the rules is part of any site. It was that way on NV, too.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.60  Texan1211  replied to  Revillug @1.1.58    3 weeks ago
To whomever it was that managed to get an upvote in there that quickly:

No need to remain in the dark about it.

Simply click on the little number next to the "Thumbs Up" icon and voila! all will be revealed.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.61  JohnRussell  replied to  Revillug @1.1.58    3 weeks ago
There can be only two explanations for the lies being put forth about this news story: (1) stupidity or (2) dishonesty

Some of them suffer from both afflictions.

-

On NT, you can say the stupidest, most dishonest, most racist, most misogynistic, comments in the world and it is allowed under "free speech". 

We are not allowed to call these people out in a stark way. We have to use generalities. 

I think its a problem, but I dont run NT. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.62  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.59    3 weeks ago
but you can not insult a member... that protects you as well as others.

I dont need any protection and I doubt if Revillug does either. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.63  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.62    3 weeks ago
I dont need any protection and I doubt if Revillug does either.

Prophylactic measures on these social sites are a good idea when you don't really know who your partners are.

 
 
 
Revillug
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1.1.64  Revillug  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.59    3 weeks ago
Playing by the rules is part of any site.

I've asked three times (in these deleted comments) to have my NT account deleted.

 
 
 
dennissmith
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1.1.65  dennissmith  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.57    3 weeks ago

Yours was the same.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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1.1.66  Drakkonis  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.62    3 weeks ago
I dont need any protection and I doubt if Revillug does either.

I don' think she asked for your input on what you do or don't need concerning how she runs this place. How about you show her a little respect, considering she gives you, for free, a platform for what seems to me to be mostly propaganda. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.67  Tessylo  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.1.55    3 weeks ago

Whatever - scumbags, every single one of them.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.68  JohnRussell  replied to  Drakkonis @1.1.66    3 weeks ago

I have a lot of respect for Perrie, and we are good friends. 

There are inconsistencies in the moderation of this forum though. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago

You [deleted a conspiracy deleted] and were long before this particular story. 

Why the censorship by NBC of their own story?

The conspiracy theory assumes that the reporter told the "truth" and NBC is covering it up by removing it. 

Maybe the reporter just fucked up and misrepresented the facts and no one at NBC caught it before it went on the air. 

At some point Paul Pelosi , and the attacker, will tell us their versions of what happened. Speculating that they were friends who had a gay lovers quarrel is despicable. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2    3 weeks ago
The conspiracy theory assumes that the reporter told the "truth" and NBC is covering it up by removing it. 

And where did I assume anything?  If the reporter got it wrong, fucking NBC must correct the story, but they didn't. Why?


Maybe the reporter just fucked up and misrepresented the facts and no one at NBC caught it before it went on the air. 

Then what happened to NBC's reponsibility to set the record straight?


Speculating that they were friends who had a gay lovers quarrel is despicable. 

Did I ever say that?

John, I think you are the conspiracy theorist. You seem to think that an NBC reporter got it wrong and NBC simply shut the story down, as did the SFPD and people like me are the problem for asking questions.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    3 weeks ago

Your theory , as presented in this seed, is that Pelosi knew and was friendly with the attacker. 

Yes or no? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.2    3 weeks ago

No.

I'm asking for the details of what happened.

NBC and the SFPD are obviously unwiling to provide those details.

So again, I ask you why?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.3    3 weeks ago

Vic, you presented a theory that is based on the belief that Pelosi knew and was friends with the attacker. Forget about the "report" on NBC. The theory this seed alludes to is that Pelosi and his "friend" had an argument that became violent. 

Yes or no? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.4    3 weeks ago
Vic, you presented a theory that is based on the belief that Pelosi knew and was friends with the attacker.

That's not my theory...THAT WAS THE REPORT FROM NBC!


Forget about the "report" on NBC.

I would if NBC made a correction, but they haven't... WHY NOT?


 The theory this seed alludes to is that Pelosi and his "friend" had an argument that became violent. 

The only one who seems to have a theory is you. Are you now going to tell us that a reporter for NBC got it wrong, yet NBC won't correct the story?

WHY WOULDN'T THEY?



Yes or no?

NO....I have posed no theories.


Can you answer my questions at some point?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.5    3 weeks ago
The only one who seems to have a theory is you. Are you now going to tell us that a reporter for NBC got it wrong, yet NBC won't correct the story?WHY WOULDN'T THEY?

They dont want to embarrass the reporter?  

If this theory is so plausible and it appeared in mainstream media (NBC), why isnt it all over the news, and emanating from every news source? 

You are promoting a conspiracy theory that is not supported by facts, I dont care how you twist and turn trying to deny that. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.6    3 weeks ago
They dont want to embarrass the reporter?  

HAHA!  That may be the best excuse yet!  

By not correcting whatever errors that you are clearly theorizing he made, they are actually making it appear that it is true!


You are promoting a conspiracy theory that is not supported by facts

I am using the facts supplied by NBC and you should apologize for calling me or anyone else a "conspiracy theorist."

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.2.8  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    3 weeks ago
people like me are the problem for asking questions.

That's what happens in Marxist/Communist/totalitarian countries.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.9  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.2.8    3 weeks ago

We can't use that comparison. Only the left gets to do that. We have to be precise when describing those who have abused their power!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.2.10  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.2    3 weeks ago
Your theory , as presented in this seed, is that Pelosi knew and was friendly with the attacker. 

After Pelosi opened the door, why did he walk back to DePape instead of getting behind the police who were there to save his life? And, why didn't he leave the house after police arrived and head toward the other officers? Very strange behavior for a man who allegedly called 911 to report a "home invasion".

Also ... how many home invaders let their victims use the bathroom (unaccompanied and with a cell phone) while in the process of said "home invasion"?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.2.11  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.3    3 weeks ago
I'm asking for the details of what happened.
NBC and the SFPD are obviously unwiling to provide those details.

And Capitol Police.

Where are all of the indoor/outdoor home surveillance camera and police body cam videos? Why won't Nancy and police allow their release to the public? 

It didn't take long to release surveillance and body cam videos when it was George Floyd, Kyle Rittenhouse, Mar-a-Lago, and so many others. Why are Nancy and Paul Pelosi so "special" and why are facts about this "crime" hidden from the American public right before the 2022 midterm elections? Did Paul f*** up again and Nancy is has to use her political clout to hide everything about her husband? Who knows?   

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.12  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.2.11    3 weeks ago

It appears they are hiding something.

And you are right, they hid details of Paul's drunk driving accident not long ago.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.2.10    3 weeks ago

‘I Don’t Know What Triggered This Event’: David DePape’s Longtime Boss Speaks Out – NBC Bay Area

In that video a man that was Depapes boss, recently, not 7 years ago like that Gypsy person, says that Depape went down the "rabbitt hole" of right wing extremism, particularly as related to Jan 6. 

Those are the facts, as learned not just from the boss, but also from Depapes website and social media. 

Enough with this gay lover insanity. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.7    3 weeks ago

I'm not apologizing for shit. You should be apologizing to this forum for posting conspiracy theories. 

You can call it "just asking questions" all you want. What is the PURPOSE of your questions Vic? That is where the conspiracy mongering comes in. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.15  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.14    3 weeks ago

You can't have it both ways. Democrats are pushing the theory that the Pelosi attack was political and at the same time they want a cover-up of what happened at the Pelosi residence.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.2.16  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.14    3 weeks ago
I'm not apologizing for shit.

Why start now?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.2.17  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.13    3 weeks ago
Enough with this gay lover insanity. 

Please specify where I mentioned this in comment 1.2.11 .

Stop accusing me of things I've never said. Thank you in advance.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.18  Texan1211  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.2.17    3 weeks ago
Stop accusing me of things I've never said.

Sure makes debating easy, huh?

Just say the other person said something they didn't, debate that and declare 'victory'.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.2.19  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.14    3 weeks ago
I'm not apologizing for shit. You should be apologizing to this forum for posting conspiracy theories. 

When will people apologize to this forum for posting dozens of conspiracy theory articles about:

  • Trump/Russia collusion (Steele Dossier) - proven FALSE.
  • Trump/prostitutes pee videos - proven FALSE.
  • Trump is a Russian spy - proven FALSE.

Ad nauseam.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.20  JohnRussell  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.2.19    3 weeks ago

Donald Trump was once asked about Q Anon and he said "all I know is they like me". Fuck him. 

 
 
 
Revillug
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1.2.21  Revillug  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.15    3 weeks ago
at the same time they want a cover-up of what happened at the Pelosi residence.

No Democrat wants a coverup of what happened at the Pelosi residence.

But we would like the NBC reporter to provide some more clarity on this source. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.22  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Revillug @1.2.21    3 weeks ago
No Democrat wants a coverup of what happened at the Pelosi residence.

Read the comments here.


But we would like the NBC reporter to provide some more clarity on this source. 

Transparency is clearly what is needed

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.23  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.13    3 weeks ago
‘I Don’t Know What Triggered This Event’: David DePape’s Longtime Boss Speaks Out – NBC Bay Area

In that video a man that was Depapes boss, recently, not 7 years ago like that Gypsy person, says that Depape went down the "rabbitt hole" of right wing extremism, particularly as related to Jan 6. 

Those are the facts, as learned not just from the boss, but also from Depapes website and social media. 

Enough with this gay lover insanity."

I don't know why some folks keep promoting the conspiracy theory ignorance like Musk did on Twitter.  This was an attack by another right wing whackjob against a Democrat - it just so happened that Nancy wasn't home at the time.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.24  Tessylo  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.2.19    3 weeks ago

None of that has been proven false jasper.

I don't care what links you provide in the future regarding your alleged claims but you're incorrect.

 
 
 
Revillug
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1.2.25  Revillug  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    3 weeks ago
If the reporter got it wrong, fucking NBC must correct the story, but they didn't. Why?

They corrected the story by deleting it because it was false.

When asked why they pulled it, NBC said it was because it was false.

I have provided a link to that more than once. You have even complained about seeing the link more than once as if repeating the simple facts is some sort of spam.

It has been corrected (removed) and explained (explained). Very simple and literal. No shades of gray or mystery.

To quote Joseph Welch, "Have you no sense of decency?"

And can we please get a moderator here to stop the spread of blatant lies (which are not constitutionally protected speech, BTW).

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.26  devangelical  replied to  Revillug @1.2.25    3 weeks ago

trumpsters aren't used to seeing their own media outlets retract misinformation. it usually takes a multi-million dollar defamation lawsuit...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.27  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @1.2.26    3 weeks ago
trumpsters aren't used to seeing media outlets retract misinformation.

Sure they are. The NYT, WashPo, NBC all have done so repeatedly over the years!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.28  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2.26    3 weeks ago
"trumpsters aren't used to seeing media outlets retract misinformation."

They're used to being re-tweeted or whatever - the lies and the conspiracies - thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of times by Musk and other right wing whackjobs.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.2.29  Ender  replied to  devangelical @1.2.26    3 weeks ago

Hell, just do like 'fox news' and classify themselves as entertainment...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.30  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @1.2.29    3 weeks ago
Hell, just do like 'fox news' and classify themselves as entertainment...

OMG, are you still believing that long-debunked nonsense?

LMAO!!!

 
 
 
George
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1.2.31  George  replied to  devangelical @1.2.26    3 weeks ago
trumpsters aren't used to seeing their own media outlets retract misinformation. it usually takes a multi-million dollar defamation lawsuit...

You can expand that to "Most" aren't used to seeing their own media outlets retract misinformation. it usually takes a multi-million dollar defamation lawsuit...

That's because most are run by lying liberal fucktards! It takes a Lawsuit by Sandman to make Most retract their lying BS.

 
 
 
George
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1.2.32  George  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.30    3 weeks ago
LMAO!!!

What's even more hysterical it's in response to a comment about lying and misinformation. Priceless!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.33  Texan1211  replied to  George @1.2.32    3 weeks ago
Priceless!

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Ever notice it is mostly the ones decrying misinformation that supply so much of it?

Proving Reagan right still.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.2.34  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.30    3 weeks ago

There is actually no oversight or any over 'cable news' or any accreditation over.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.35  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @1.2.34    3 weeks ago
There is actually no oversight or any over 'cable news' or any accreditation over.

Well, no shit.

Which made your comment all the more bizarre.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.2.36  Ender  replied to  George @1.2.32    3 weeks ago
Just read  U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil's opinion , leaning heavily on the arguments of Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "
 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.37  Texan1211  replied to  George @1.2.32    3 weeks ago

The same folks likely are the ones who claimed Fox News was banned in Canada, too!

What won't they fall for?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago

So this is all some conspiracy theory?  Do you think it was a gay lover like Musk promoted on Twitter?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago

Republicans Fed Cycle of Misinformation About Pelosi Attack

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Breaking down 21 of the elected officials, candidates and other prominent figures who spread misinformation or cast doubt on the attack on Paul Pelosi.   (NYT)
Annie Karni
Mon, November 7, 2022 at 7:41 AM
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.4    3 weeks ago

"Joe Biden lost no time blaming ultra-mega-semi-fascist-MAGA Donald Trump supporters for the  strange attack on Paul Pelosi in his San Francisco home  early Friday.

Barack Obama did the same , using a rally in Michigan for failed Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to rail against “politicians who work to stir up division to try to make us angry and afraid of one another for their own advantage.”

So did Hillary Clinton, who tweeted: “The Republican Party and its mouthpieces now regularly spread hate and deranged conspiracy theories. It is shocking, but not surprising, that violence is the result.”

So did Kamala Harris, demanding people “speak out against hate.”

So did every other Democratic surrogate, like Hollywood director Rob Reiner, who tweeted: “Donald Trump is 100% responsible for this and Jan.6.”

So did all the Democrat-aligned media who delivered the same talking points in unison, along with dubiously sourced facts and a false depiction of the alleged attacker as a MAGA Republican in  defiance of his drug-addicted hippy lifestyle , Green Party membership and the BLM and LGBT signs festooned across his sometime residence, a nudist commune in San Francisco’s gay Castro distric

It was a full-court press designed to flip the attack on the House speaker’s husband into an “October surprise” as Dems look down the barrel of a brutal shellacking from the voters next week.

It was their last desperate effort — because they have nothing else, apart from abortion — to smear their political opponents as violent “insurrectionists” and election “deniers” who are a threat to democracy.

For Biden and pals, everything is Trump’s fault, laughably even inflation, crime and the wide-open southern border.

Although San Francisco police made a point of saying that they don’t know the motive of the alleged attacker, David DePape, who was arrested at 2:30 a.m., reportedly in his underwear, at the Pelosi family home, that didn’t stop the president linking the attack to Jan. 6 less than 24 hours later.

During a speech in Pennsylvania on Friday night,  Biden claimed DePape asked , “‘Where’s Nancy?’ — the same chant was used by this guy that they have in custody that was used on January 6, the attack on the US Capitol.”

The president repeated his theory to reporters the next day: “You can’t condemn the violence unless you condemn those people who continue to argue the election was not real, that it’s been stolen, all the malarkey that’s being put out there to undermine democracy … This talk produces the violence … the talk has to stop.”

Problem is, Democrats have been trying to “stop the talk” since Trump came on the scene, with limited success, but a lot of violations of the First Amendment.

So far, they’ve coopted Big Tech to censor speech they don’t like or stories politically damaging to Democratic candidates. They’ve harnessed the FBI to bury inconvenient evidence like Hunter Biden’s laptop, and harass people committing wrongthink, like parents at school board meetings, or Christian pro-lifer Mark Houck, raided by a SWAT team in front of his seven children.

But they have not succeeded in changing hearts and minds.

If anything, the heavy-handed, quasi-Stasi repression has had the opposite effect, red-pilling independents and even some Democrats — as the upcoming red tsunami at the midterms should show.

A case in point is the hilarious focus group MSNBC staged last week in Pennsylvania to try to show Trump voters as misinformed cult members. It backfired big-time.

Media bias exposed

The focus group members pushed back on the media double standard when it comes to downplaying months of deadly riots before the 2020 election.

“Except on a much smaller scale, [the Jan. 6 riot ] looked the same as the Black Lives Matter riots,” said one.

They fact-checked the reporter, rebutting every Jan. 6 propaganda point: No cops were killed, there was zero evidence that people were “throwing excrement at the walls” and yes, Speaker Pelosi did have the “authority” to authorize the National Guard to back up the undermanned Capitol Police that day — as did her then-Senate Republican counterpart, Mitch McConnell — and they failed to do so, despite repeated requests from Police Chief Steve Sund, a mystery yet to be addressed.

“Our administration, I feel like, is using [Jan.6] as their Reichstag fire,” said one of the focus group voters.

Kaboom.

It was a stunning dismantling of the left-wing media narrative about Jan. 6, delivered respectfully by resolute and unrepentant Trump voters who were far more informed than the brainwashed reporter trying to expose them as bitter “clingers” and “chumps” for Morning Joe to laugh at.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.4.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.1    3 weeks ago

You've lost the argument with the enlarged font and the bolding - your denial, projections, and deflections, don't make the conspiracy ignorance true.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.4.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.1    3 weeks ago

They're all correct Vic - Obama, Biden, Harris, Clinton

It is those on the 'right' who are WRONG AS USUAL.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.4.4  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.4    3 weeks ago

Breaking down 21 of the elected officials, candidates and other prominent figures who spread misinformation or cast doubt on the attack on Paul Pelosi.   (NYT)

And certain posters keep reposting the misinformation and the conspiracy theories.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3  Buzz of the Orient    3 weeks ago

Well, the attacker was a Canadian.  Biden could gather support for the midterms if he were to declare war and invade Canada in retaliation.  Of course, the last time Americans invaded Canada they were defeated, but that was a couple hundred years ago.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3    3 weeks ago

The Canadians can't take credit for that. That was the Brits!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    3 weeks ago
"The Canadians can't take credit for that. That was the Brits!"

There were Canadian born fighters among them, and don't tell me the First Nation fighters were Brits - they were more Canadian than I am.  I may have been born in Canada but I am the son of immigrants. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    3 weeks ago

No, it was the Canadians, Metis, and a number of First Nations including the Odawa, Ojibwe, Pawnee, Kickapoo, and the Potawatomi led by Tecumseh and there were tribes involved in the eastern flank like the Mohawk, but most of the battles were fought in the Great Lakes area and surrounding lands. 

Of course, the Brits were also involved but at that time the majority of their forces were fighting the Americans and of course the French and Bonaparte elsewhere.

Gichi-mookomaanaki gwayakwaajimowin 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @3.1.2    3 weeks ago
Of course, the Brits were also involved

At the time Canada was a British Colony. You got 5 votes for having it wrong.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.4  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.3    3 weeks ago

Nowhere did I say it wasn't a British Colony did I, Vic. 

As usual, you cherry-pick my comment. Here is the complete comment.

Of course, the Brits were also involved but at that time the majority of their forces were fighting the Americans and of course the French and Bonaparte elsewhere.

That is a true statement and you're wrong. Nice try but no cigar for you.

I got five votes up from people that seem to know a lot more about the War of 1812 than you do.

Indigenous contributions to the War of 1812

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.3    3 weeks ago

And you always get one from your little buddy, no matter what.

P.S. Kav is never wrong.  

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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3.2  Jasper2529  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3    3 weeks ago
Well, the attacker was a Canadian. 

Yes, but there's a lot we don't know for sure - a lot that's been conflicting and/or muddied.

I've read several reports stating that Nancy Pelosi was one of several prominent people on DePape's hit list, but none of them specify the names or political associations of his targeted victims. True/False? Nobody knows.

Perhaps he isn't a native born Canadian citizen but a naturalized citizen? Perhaps he was born in a country that the US considers a state sponsor of terrorism, i.e., Syria, Iran, Cuba? True/False? Nobody knows.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2    3 weeks ago

Good points.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2    3 weeks ago
Perhaps he isn't a native born Canadian citizen but a naturalized citizen? Perhaps he was born in a country that the US considers a state sponsor of terrorism, i.e., Syria, Iran, Cuba? True/False? Nobody knows.

Maybe he was born on Mars and is Elon Musk's twin brother. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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3.2.3  Jasper2529  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.2.1    3 weeks ago

Thank you, Buzz. Since so many details are missing, I'm simply viewing this with an open mind until if/when we know more. We also must remember that CA is a "sanctuary state" and San Francisco is a "sanctuary city". Criminal illegal aliens are released on a daily basis without having to pay bail. However, DePape is being held without a bail option . Why is the alleged assault on Paul Pelosi more important than the hundreds of people who have been assaulted and/or died at the hands of other criminal illegal aliens? Seems like a hypocritical "justice system" to me.

Today, I came across more information about DePape:

Paul Pelosi's release from the hospital comes as a federal official says the Canadian man accused of breaking into their home and attacking him should have been flagged by immigration officials and blocked from getting back into the U.S. after overstaying his authorized entry more than two decades ago. CNN was first to report Pelosi's release from the hospital.

David DePape, 42, legally entered the United States in 2000 and later left the country and returned a few times, including entering in March 2008 at San Diego’s San Ysidro border crossing, said a U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

Most Canadians are not required to obtain a visa to enter the U.S. as tourists and can stay for up to six months. The official said it was unclear why U.S. authorities admitted DePape after he overstayed his entry in 2000.

The cost and technological hurdles to develop a checkout system at congested land crossings with Canada and Mexico are enormous. In the 12-month period through September 2020, more than 52,000 Canadians who came to the U.S. by air or sea had overstayed their legally authorized entry.

Despite the challenges, the U.S. official said DePape’s overstay should have been noted in immigration records, which, in theory, should have prevented authorities from admitting him.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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3.2.4  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.2    3 weeks ago
Maybe he was born on Mars and is Elon Musk's twin brother. 

Rather than mock open-minded people, you might want to do your own research. If not, please read the link in comment 3.2.3 . It shows my research.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.4    3 weeks ago

I dont give a damn if he came from Canada. 

I care what his motivation was and the "evidence" suggest his motivation was political. As my "research" revealed his boss says he was influenced by right wing extremism. 

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.2.6  GregTx  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.5    3 weeks ago

What "evidence"?

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Quiet
3.2.7  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.5    3 weeks ago
As my "research" revealed his boss says

Have you brought this to the police? I've always suspected the hammer was right-handed. My wife said DePape was heard humming, "I'd rather be a hammer than a nail", too.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Participates
3.2.8  Jasper2529  replied to  GregTx @3.2.6    3 weeks ago

Maybe the same sort of invisible "evidence" Adam Schiff said he's had?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
3.2.9  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.5    3 weeks ago
I care what his motivation was and the "evidence" suggest his motivation was political.

Mentally ill.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.10  JohnRussell  replied to  GregTx @3.2.6    3 weeks ago

The evidence where Depapes boss was interviewed by a tv station and he says Depape went down a rabbitt hole of right wing conspiracies. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
3.2.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.10    3 weeks ago

Exactly, Frank Ciccarelli said that when he first met David DePape, he was homeless and living under a tree in Berkeley’s Aquatic Park and politically liberal.

Then he changed gradually changed rabbit holes.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.11    3 weeks ago
Then he changed gradually changed rabbit holes.

They say that happened to a number of people who became enamored of Trump. The operative word in your comment being "changed". 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
3.2.13  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.12    3 weeks ago
They say that happened to a number of people who became enamored of Trump.

Who is they?  Are they talking about former liberals who became enamored of Trump?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.14  Tessylo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.2.1    3 weeks ago

No.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2    3 weeks ago

He's a right wing whack job regardless of where he's from.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.16  Tessylo  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.3    3 weeks ago

Open minded?  LOL!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.17  Tessylo  replied to  GregTx @3.2.6    3 weeks ago
"What "evidence"?

All the stuff that the 'right' has been ignoring/deflecting/projecting about this right wing whackjob.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
3.2.18  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.14    3 weeks ago

Tess, please explain to me what you think is wrong with what Jasper said that I replied to.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
3.2.19  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.5    3 weeks ago

His boss also said there were signs of mental illness. Recently, he said,  DePape started talking about building a physical home for an imaginary fairy.    An imaginary fairy John.

Naturally you left that part out.   Which is why no thinking person takes your comments like this serious.    Since they are so often just that disingenuous.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2.20  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.15    3 weeks ago
He's a right wing whack job regardless of where he's from.

he's a Q wacko, IOW a trumpster, just like the neo-nazis, white supremacists, and thumpers are...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
3.2.21  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.14    3 weeks ago

If you can't explain it, why did you say it?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.22  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @3.2.20    3 weeks ago
BINGO!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.23  Tessylo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.2.21    3 weeks ago

I don't have to explain myself.  [Deleted]

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.2.24  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.8    3 weeks ago

And you just chastised John for mocking people

tsk tsk tsk

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.25  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.24    3 weeks ago

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squiggy
Junior Quiet
3.2.26  squiggy  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.25    3 weeks ago

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Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
3.2.27  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.25    3 weeks ago
Well we have to remember that it's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice.

Over time, I've seen here that those are words that you live by.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.28  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.27    3 weeks ago

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Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
3.2.29  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.28    3 weeks ago

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Ronin2
Professor Quiet
3.3  Ronin2  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3    3 weeks ago

Buzz, if the US chose to take Canada- the US military wouldn't have time to burp and the war would already be over.

We don't want Canada. Most Americans can't stand hockey. There are already too many teams in the NFL; and joining the USFL would be the death nell for Canadian football. We would need translators to understand the majority of Canadians. We would need to outlaw the use of the word "eh"; it was used up on the movie "Strange Brew" and gives us a headache. 

Besides Brandon would never attack a fellow Fascist leader in Canada.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
3.3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ronin2 @3.3    3 weeks ago
"Buzz, if the US chose to take Canada- the US military wouldn't have time to burp and the war would already be over."

Of course.  There is a line in a Canadian poem "And leave our defence to the Yankees."

"...joining the USFL would be the death nell for Canadian football."

I agree.  Canadians are not at all as devoted to football as Americans are.  Canada is "Hockey Nation", although I got more attached to baseball when the Blue Jays came to town.  

"We would need translators to understand the majority of Canadians."

Surely only the ones who only speak French, and Newfies.  We say "eh" and you say 'huh".  The Fonz exaggerated our "eh" to "aayyyy" and that's okay?

You've got the "fascist" thing backward.  It's a ridiculous joke that you can call liberals fascists and socialists at the same time.  And, LOL, Trudeau is a Liberal, as was his father (but Justin's not anywhere near what his father was, IMO the best PM Canada ever had during my lifetime).  I voted Conservative in both Provincial and Federal elections for the last 4 decades

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
3.4  Sparty On  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3    3 weeks ago

Ridiculous.

Biden would never attack his buddy, little lord Fauntleroy.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
3.4.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sparty On @3.4    3 weeks ago

I may never agree with you otherwise, but I agree with you on that.  It was merely a suggestion - Biden bringing a war he could win in a day to bolster the Democrats' chances at the midterms.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  seeder  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

JR implied that the NBC reporter got it wrong.

So where is the part where NBC sets the record straight?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Participates
4.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    3 weeks ago
So where is the part where NBC sets the record straight?

It's been over 24 hours, so I'm not very hopeful that NBC will scrape up any journalistic integrity.

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
4.2  Revillug  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    3 weeks ago
So where is the part where NBC sets the record straight?

It's on the internet, of course.

NBC News pulls report on Paul Pelosi attack

A network source told CNN it pulled the segment after the source of the report's information was found to be unreliable.

"The decision was made to remove the segment after it was determined, shortly after it aired, that the main source for the information was unreliable regarding the question of the circumstances that the police encountered when they arrived at the house, specifically what the police saw and how far the attacker was from the door," the source said.

In the wake of the attack, prominent right-wing media personalities have pushed a number of false conspiracy theories about the assault.

Somebody should stop you with a time-out for spreading lies.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Revillug @4.2    3 weeks ago
It's on the internet, of course.

It's also in the article above. The same thing.


Somebody should stop you with a time-out for spreading lies.

The only liars I know of are the people claiming the attack was politically motivated.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5  JBB    3 weeks ago

Go ahead and say it. What exactly are you implying? A conspiracy?

GTFOOH...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @5    3 weeks ago
A conspiracy?

By whom?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    3 weeks ago

By NBC. It's a common place problem in the news industry.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.2  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    3 weeks ago

Well, it is your article. So, what's up? Spell it out for everyone...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

Can you answer my questions?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
6  Greg Jones    3 weeks ago

The window glass was outside the house.

No security camera videos released. Same for cops bloody cams.

Weird behavior on Pelosi's part. Why?

Logic would suggest a cover up.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Principal
6.1  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @6    3 weeks ago
The window glass was outside the house.

BS. it was an exterior door, looked like double doors. Break the glass to access the door lock,

No security camera videos released. Same for cops bloody cams.

Can't wait for the trial?  Why would the prosecutors share prejudicial information that would taint the jury pool?

Weird behavior on Pelosi's part. Why?

He's 82, woken up by a stranger in the house at 2:30AM and senses that the intruder is crazy.  Who knows what DePape told him prior to the Police arrival?  What is normal behavior?

He DID dial 911. Was that weird or normal?

Logic would suggest a cover up.

Logic would dictate waiting for the facts instead of guessing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @6.1    3 weeks ago
Break the glass to access the door lock,

Let's see the film. You know the one that was supposed to be monitored in real time and speaking of time how about we all see the time when the glass was broken and by whom.


Can't wait for the trial? 

Will Nancy let this go to trial?


He's 82, woken up by a stranger in the house at 2:30AM and senses that the intruder is crazy.  Who knows what DePape told him prior to the Police arrival?  What is normal behavior?

You are doing a lot of speculating. Let's just see the films.


He DID dial 911. Was that weird or normal?

Over an intruder or a meeting gone wrong?  We can all speculate can't we. Let's just see the films.


Logic would dictate waiting for the facts instead of guessing.

But we aren't ever going to have the facts, are we?

 
 
 
independent Liberal
Freshman Quiet
7  independent Liberal    3 weeks ago

NBC reported that Paul Pelosi told cops David was his friend and everything was fine. Paul was a friend of Ed Buck's, one would have a hard time believing that all is what it seems. Not being a Democrat hack I am confident in saying that likely Paul was engaged in sexual activities with David and things got out of hand. Someone forgot their safe word and well they both got hammered.

The entire home is on cctv, release the footage and disprove what most people believe. Nancy was away and Paul was getting some dick.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1  JohnRussell  replied to  independent Liberal @7    3 weeks ago
Not being a Democrat hack I am confident in saying that likely Paul was engaged in sexual activities with David and things got out of hand

Any chance we can get you to stop polluting this forum with your trolling? 

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Guide
7.1.1  pat wilson  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    3 weeks ago

Fish trolling.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  pat wilson @7.1.1    3 weeks ago

Probably. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.2    3 weeks ago

Hateful ignorance is what it is.  Why is that shit allowed to stay up?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  independent Liberal @7    3 weeks ago
Not being a Democrat hack I am confident in saying that likely Paul was engaged in sexual activities with David and things got out of hand.

Given what we presently know, you sound more like a conservative than an independent. Most of us independents wait for the facts.

The entire home is on cctv, release the footage and disprove what most people believe. Nancy was away and Paul was getting some dick.

Even if that was the truth (which of course no one knows), you are trying to victimize the victim. No one wants to be bludgeoned by a hammer. 

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
7.2.1  Revillug  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2    3 weeks ago
sound more like a conservative than an independent

Liberal spoofs. Conservative spoofs.

Who can keep track?

Maybe Newstalkers needs a satire group.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  Revillug @7.2.1    3 weeks ago

Good luck with that group.

You will need to monitor it constantly and have to inform people what satire is almost every article.

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
7.2.3  Revillug  replied to  Texan1211 @7.2.2    3 weeks ago

I find it odd that pretending to believe and traffic in conservative nonsense is frowned upon more on this website than sincerely believing and trafficking in it. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Revillug @7.2.3    3 weeks ago
I find it odd that pretending to believe and traffic in conservative nonsense is frowned upon more on this website than sincerely believing and trafficking in it. 

I have no earthly idea what you are trying to say in relation to my post.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.2.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Revillug @7.2.1    3 weeks ago
Maybe Newstalkers needs a satire group.

You know that is not a bad idea.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2    3 weeks ago
Most of us independents wait for the facts.

But in this case, no facts are coming and certain independents along with every progressive here seem to like it that way.  What makes him a Conservative?


Even if that was the truth (which of course no one knows), you are trying to victimize the victim.

Nobody would do that if Paul and Nancy would simply be transparent.


No one wants to be bludgeoned by a hammer. 

What does that mean?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Revillug @7.2.1    3 weeks ago
Maybe Newstalkers needs a satire group.

I hope you don't mean like they had on that old forum, where like minded people would congregate and toss insults at public figures?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
7.2.8  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.7    3 weeks ago

You mean like you do about Biden, Harris, AOC and Pelosi?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2.9  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @7.2.8    3 weeks ago

You know exactly what I mean.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.2.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Revillug @7.2.1    3 weeks ago

What is the spoof? He is pretending to be something in order to berate it. Spoofs are usually obvious and done lightheartedly. That is not what is going on in this case. 

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Guide
7.2.11  Revillug  replied to  Texan1211 @7.2.4    3 weeks ago

Fair enough.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2    3 weeks ago

You're giving credence to this gay lover hateful ignorance conspiracy.

 
 
 
Transyferous Rex
Freshman Quiet
7.2.13  Transyferous Rex  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2    3 weeks ago
Given what we presently know

Which everyone should agree...is nothing. Curious, we saw video of the Uvalde shooter before any sort of trial, right? I can think of a myriad of situations where footage was released. Why not here? High profile case? Afraid of tainting the jury? Jury is tainted already. According to the news, the "accused" broke in and bludgeoned Pelosi with a hammer. WTF are we waiting for? Hang the guy already...he did it. Why wait for a trial?

To those claiming this is a conspiracy theory, that the jury shouldn't be tainted by the release of any footage, that Pelosi is a victim of some wild conservative hippy from Canada...I ask this. What would the release of 5 seconds of body cam footage hurt? What would it hurt to release the video of when and how they 1st entered and were 1st greeted? 

As an aside, it is entirely in the realm of reason, logic, and possibility that the cool and calm 911 call was made and Pelosi thought the cops could get there and dispose of any "threat," and they did arrive, but the Canadian hippy hit him with a hammer upon realizing that Pelosi called the cops. You don't need to go down a conspiracy rabbit hole to get there. Crazy fuckers don't care if the cops are present or not. There doesn't have to be a conspiracy. The silence and dodgy actions are what adds oxygen to this. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.2.14  Tessylo  replied to  Transyferous Rex @7.2.13    3 weeks ago

So you buy the conspiracy bullshit.  What a shocker.

 
 
 
Transyferous Rex
Freshman Quiet
7.2.15  Transyferous Rex  replied to  Tessylo @7.2.14    3 weeks ago
So you buy the conspiracy bullshit.  What a shocker.

Nowhere in my comment did I say I buy it. What a shocker that you, of all people who spout stupid assed shit on this site, would be the one to put those words in my mouth. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.2.16  Tessylo  replied to  Transyferous Rex @7.2.15    3 weeks ago

Canadian hippy?  It was a right wing whackjob.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.2.17  Tessylo  replied to  Transyferous Rex @7.2.15    3 weeks ago

Silence and dodgy actions?

 
 
 
GregTx
Junior Participates
8  GregTx    3 weeks ago

Has the SFPD refuted this?

 
 
 
independent Liberal
Freshman Quiet
9  independent Liberal    3 weeks ago

Paul Pelosi answered the door, said there wasn't a problem. This is kind of a problem based on the narrative that was originally portrayed. Why hide the truth, release the cctv. The entire house is on camera.

I suspect Paul and his friend were engaged in sex acts and something went wrong. I could care less if Paul likes a visit from a Rooster on occasion. I think it would actually be beneficial to tell the truth here. I think supporters of Nancy would appreciate it. It's not like it's her husband is the only one that likes to chub the rooster when the hen is away.

I also can't help but notice how fast this story disappeared after NBC pulled their article. Whoops, time to move on, Paul is fine, nothing to see here.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1  Tessylo  replied to  independent Liberal @9    3 weeks ago

I suspect you think of these these types of scenarios often, or should I say fantasize.  

I imagine Mr. Pelosi is still hospitalized after having his skull fractured by a trumpster MAGAT right wing whack job.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
9.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @9.1    3 weeks ago
I imagine Mr. Pelosi is still hospitalized

Quite an imagination since he was released and went home last Thursday..........................

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.1.1    3 weeks ago

Whatever.  

I'm not the one with quite the imagination here.  You agree I see with IL's fantasies.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.2    3 weeks ago

I see DOTW has the same fantasies as well.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
9.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.2    3 weeks ago
You agree I see with IL's fantasies. 

If you "see" that you may want to visit your eye doctor...........couldn't be farther from the truth. Only thing I agree with, and laugh at, is the part where NBC had to pull their story.

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
9.1.5  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.1.4    3 weeks ago

In NBC’s defense they have been broadcasting unsubstantiated rumors from unverifiable sources for years now. This reporter was just following there past protocols.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
9.1.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @9.1.5    3 weeks ago

Excellent point.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.1.4    3 weeks ago

Whatever floats your boat . . . you can agree with his fantasies all you like

 
 

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